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Title: NO PLANER COINTELPRO Operation Becoming Transparent
Source: Prison Planet Forum
URL Source: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=945.50;wap2
Published: Aug 1, 2008
Author: Morgan Rose
Post Date: 2012-10-06 10:54:21 by FormerLurker
Ping List: *9-11*     Subscribe to *9-11*
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COINTELPRO, an acronym for Counter Intelligence Program, was a series of covert operations conducted by the FBI starting in the mid 50’s and continuing until 1976 when it was exposed by the investigations The Church Committee. One of the primary methods of COINTELPRO consisted of forging pseudo-movement groups as a means of conducting Psychological Warfare operations to spread disinformation, disrupt, and divide existing movements. These ‘psy-ops’ tended to foment suspicions among the targeted movements and try to dissuade sympathies from people outside the targeted movement.

Today, COINTELPRO has reared its ugly head again, with infiltrations popping up everywhere from Anti-War activism groups to peaceful gun owners and militias. Provocations have become more and more conspicuous to the public as the Seattle World Trade Organization protests and Ontario Security and Prosperity Partnership protests successfully exposed provocateur operations. Of course, something as dangerous to the establishment *body politic* as 9/11 has not been without its alleged incidents of COINTELPRO action. Allegations of government disinformation have been swirling around certain figures in the movement, such as former Bush Administration official Morgan Reynolds, who has recently proposed that “no planes hit the World Trade Center”, has alleged “TV Fakery”, and submitted that the towers were brought down by “Directed Energy Weapons” a.k.a. “Laser Beams”.

While the government has spent innumerable resources trying to contradict eyewitness statements regarding reported explosions in the towers, Morgan Reynolds and his “mockingbirds” expect the 9/11 truth movement to put their energy into further contradicting even more numerous eyewitness statements . See a problem here?

Typical of the above outlined methods, “No Planers” have become a pseudo-movement, adding lunacy, deception, and division to the legitimate questions emanating from 9/11 families, first responders, government officials, intelligence experts, scientists, engineers, architects, academics, entertainment personalities, and so many others.

Perhaps the more visible purveyors of this pseudo-movement are supported by Paula Gloria’s “Concordia Foundation”. The “Concordia Foundation” claims 501 (c) 3, or “nonprofit” status, However, recent investigations conducted by concerned donors have uncovered that her “foundation” does not retain “nonprofit” status with the IRS. In fact, more rigorous inquires have obtained that no records of the “Concordia Foundation” even exist in its home state of New York. Funding of Paula Gloria’s “foundation” originates solely from an information technology firm, Bit By Bit Computer Consultants. “Donations” to the “Concordia Foundation” are actually billed directly to Bit By Bit. The apparent fraud has appropriately prompted multiple complaints with the FTC and IRS.

Bit By Bit, and its subsidiary 3BDigital, admittedly list among their portfolio Bloomberg LLC, Chase Bank, The National Football League, Citigroup, and The National Security Council. 3BDigital boasts to have partnerships with Nokia, Cisco Systems, IBM, Compaq, Microsoft, Goldman Sachs, and Level (3) Communications. Level (3) Communications, a defense contractor doing business, primarily, with US and UK interests, is the developer of the WESCAM system said to be the delivery mechanism for the supposed “TV Fakery”. Of course this is nonsense, but it is fascinating that these harlequins would incorporate their partnerships into their own theories.

The “Concordia Foundation” numbers among its surrogates Nico Haupt,” a man who exhibits *prima facie *schizophrenic behavior. Allegations of COINTELPRO surrounding Haupt have, in the past, seemed to be justified. WeAreChange recently had two unprovoked incidents with Haupt, where he assaulted the groups members, only to be ignored by onlooking NYPD.

Haupt continuously spreads disinformation, even abject lies, surrounding the 9/11 truth movement. From calling legitimate 9/11 truthers “Plane Huggers”, to claiming “Alex Jones works for ABC” and is “covering up for the media”, Haupt’s tactics and behavior exhibit classic COINTELPRO methods. Haupt even advocates “waterboarding Plane Huggers”.

So a “foundation” with intimate ties to international defense contractors, major Wall Street banks, prominent telecommunications firms, and The National Security council is a driving force behind the “No Plane” pseudo-movement?

The information promulgated by Paula Gloria, Nico Haupt, Morgan Reynolds, and others is clearly suspect in light of these new revelations. Whereas, before, all of the speculation regarding “No Plane” theories were simply diffused by logic and common sense, now we see that something much more sinister is at play. The divide and conquer tactics employed by these clowns has warranted past allegations of COINTELPRO. Today, the charade has been fully exposed: the pyschological warfare, the subliminals, the allegations of ‘cover-up’ within the movement, the show on the Howard Stern Channel. Although these revelations should prompt further investigation, it certainly begs the question: does it get any more transparent? Subscribe to *9-11*

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Go to the Smoke and Mirrors topic with your wild accusations. I don't know what else you're talking about and don't think you do either.

Up yours. You pulled it out here on this thread, and after you've had your ass handed to you, all of a sudden you "want to take it to the other thread".

As far as "what else I'm talking about", apparently you have a VERY short memory.

I was talking about that fake image you're so infatuated with. You know, the one with the fake plane near the WTC, that you keep jumping up and down with all over the forum.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-10-15   9:19:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I find your willing use of those dirty tactics to be just awful. No truther would do that. Doing so invalidates credibility. Truthers want to talk about the truth no matter what it might be .... they do not attempt to distract others from speaking about what may be an uncomfortable truth.

Uh huh. For one, you aren't a 9/11 truther since you insist on spreading lies and disinfo. You refuse to accept when you're wrong, and refuse to take actual evidence into consideration if it deflates your "no planes" balloon.

For two, I have you pegged as a shill since you do the very things you list as disinfo tactics, while blaming your victims for your own crimes.

It's pretty sad that you've been able to trick some people here on the forum into thinking you're some sort of "patriot". I'm glad I'm not one of them, and hopefully, those who have befriended you won't suffer any consequence from their error in judgement.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-10-15   9:24:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Myself, I have better things to do with my time than to engage in circular arguments with shills and idiots.

If you want to believe fairies knocked down the towers, that all the victims were in cahoots with news moguls to kill 3000 Americans that day (including themeselves), and that all news media aired fake attacks which never happened, and that all of the first responders, bystanders, and news media employees were in on it too, along with the airports, airlines, and the families of these "non- existent" victims, well hey, who am I to pop your bubble.

Rational minds will see through the "smoke and mirrors" you have erected. Those who can't see through it are a lost cause anyways.

Unfortunately, you'll drive away a good share of people who would come to this forum for new evidence or facts pertaining to the subject, and perhaps convince a few of them that the good guys are really the bad guys, and that you yourselves are snow white "9/11 researchers", reinforcing the perception a good number of people already have that 9/11 "truthers" are crackpots and lunatics.

My only satisfaction here is that there exists such a thing called "Karma", and that it is universal in nature, and can't be fooled or tricked. Those who are knowlingly perpetuating lies and disinformation WILL be dealt with appropriately for their deeds, and those who are doing it out of stupidity or lack of reason will perhaps suffer a milder form of retribution, if there's any forgiveness to be had for those who do things blindly.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-10-15   9:40:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Still waiting for that list of witnesses you keep talking about.

wudidiz  posted on  2012-10-15   10:55:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

that fake image ... the one with the fake plane near the WTC

I don't know what else you were going on about in that post either but if you had said the above from your first comment on that subject here, which I wasn't discussing until then, this thread would be shorter because I wouldn't have inquired anything of you about it as to evidence or clarification.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-10-15   13:40:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Uh huh. For one, you aren't a 9/11 truther since you insist on spreading lies and disinfo. You refuse to accept when you're wrong, and refuse to take actual evidence into consideration if it deflates your "no planes" balloon.

For two, I have you pegged as a shill since you do the very things you list as disinfo tactics, while blaming your victims for your own crimes.

It's pretty sad that you've been able to trick some people here on the forum into thinking you're some sort of "patriot". I'm glad I'm not one of them, and hopefully, those who have befriended you won't suffer any consequence from their error in judgement.

All that you have proven is your own stupidity.

I am alot of things. A husband, a father, a healer, ....A drunk, a hothead, a mess... alot of things.

Shill is not one of them.

So many people here can personally testify to that. So it is not a big deal to me in spite of your repetitive naziesq attempt at repeating a lie to convince people.

The only thing I would ever try to convince anyone of, is the truth. I don't know you from adam FL.... We have not had the pleasure to meet in person. Nor have we corresponded by snail mail. I have however, met and corresponded with many other members here... I am an activist type of guy.

Part of that activism was years of my life invested into watching and re-watching the events of that day on my recordings and sharing my findings and insights with others... Years of my life learning about aerodynamics, structural engineering, the us government, it's history ,and so on and so forth.... to learn the truth of the matter means to learn alot more too!

Worst of all was learning about people like yourself. You are not a shill. You are not anyone special. You are former Lurker. Just some dude that hangs out on some of the same internet websites that I do... However I think you let the propaganda control you. Do you type with an AM radio on in the backround? I mean you accuse me of the things you are guilty of... you project yourself and your failings onto others...you should do some introspection. Maybe learn a bit more about all that you can. May Be you are wrong and find that too humiliating to accept...... who knows.

I hope you overcome the propaganda.

____________________________________________________________ . . . The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself, Action!!!

titorite  posted on  2012-10-15   13:50:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I don't know what else you were going on about in that post either but if you had said the above from your first comment on that subject here, which I wasn't discussing until then

You had just posted to me about that fake image from your PBS documentary, asking me to provide evidence that there was a MD90 or whatever in the vicinity of the WTC. I had said it's your responsibility to prove the image is real, not mine. I had already said it was a fake, many times.

Thing is, you pull it out of your butt trying to sell it as proof of no planes, where you wouldn't even concede the fact that it was fake, and has no basis on 9/11 events since there's no indication that it was ever claimed to be taken on 9/11.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-10-15   14:08:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I have however, met and corresponded with many other members here... I am an activist type of guy.

Just as so many other groups have been infiltrated, it was just a matter of time before someone decided it was time to do it with 4um members.

You haven't fooled me titorite, and your antics on these threads confirm my suspicions about you.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-10-15   14:11:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Still waiting for that list of witnesses you keep talking about.

Look up the names of 9/11 survivors, be they office workers, firemen, or policemen. Look up the names of the myraid number of reporters and camera operators who were there.

Call them and ask them if they are lying.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-10-15   14:13:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Just as so many other groups have been infiltrated, it was just a matter of time before someone decided it was time to do it with 4um members.

You haven't fooled me titorite, and your antics on these threads confirm my suspicions about you.

I'm glad I have not fooled you and yet you still appear to remain the fool.

4um infiltrated.... as if we are some sort of paramilitary threat or retain rights to oil or some shit....

This is a public website.

Not a clandestine organisation.

Free your mind.

____________________________________________________________ . . . The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself, Action!!!

titorite  posted on  2012-10-15   14:21:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Your post is erratic flailing. I have never tried to imply that the MD-90 image was real or proof of no planes. It is indicative of Media Fakery, which you at first tried to excuse away in the topic of those discussions as just a dramatization, even though there were numerous dramatic WTC "plane" imageries of 9/11 that could have been used instead. You referred to it here as if it was a plane image near the WTC but not attributed to that particular day. So, I asked you for evidence of a plane in WTC restricted airspace at some other time that might explain it as you had commented. Let's just agree that the image is evidentiary of Media Fakery and move on now from that communications glitch.

Edited for spelling + to reword 1st, 3rd and last sentences.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-10-15   14:49:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Look up the names of 9/11 survivors, be they office workers, firemen, or policemen. Look up the names of the myraid number of reporters and camera operators who were there.

Call them and ask them if they are lying.

Pack your bags, we're goin on a guilt trip.

Can't you even name one?

wudidiz  posted on  2012-10-15   15:40:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

If you want to ride the disinfo boat and pretend not one of the millions of people of NYC are valid witnesses, and that the passengers of the doomed flights never existed, that all of those involved in the news rooms, production staff, and on-scene reporters and camera crews, along with first responders, bystanders, and victims, along with the passengers, flight crews, airlines, airports, and air traffic controllers, were all part of a conspiracy hatched to fool the public that planes hit the towers, while killing 3000 Americans that day (or don't you think ANYONE was killed), well who am I to pop your bubble.

Go on thinking whatever it is you want to believe wududiz, I really don't care.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-10-15   16:13:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I really don't care.

You say that and yet you delusionally cling on to this subject with sociopathic obsession ....

I am sure wudidiz cares.. I know I do... as does GreylMist.... we all care very much.. it is only our care that sustains us when interacting with folks such as yourself FL....

It is not Disinfo because you declare it so.

In fact only the enemy makes broad sweeping generalisations of declerations... The mission is NOT accomplished. We SHOULD tolerate outragous conspiracy theories ..... WE DO ALLY OURSELVES AGAINST THE ENEMIES OF TRUTH!

We care,.

____________________________________________________________ . . . The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself, Action!!!

titorite  posted on  2012-10-15   16:26:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

No planners don't want to ride the disinfo boat, they are the disinfo boat. They keep posting their nonsense in an effort to make anyone who sees the thread who doesn't know the truth leave and think 9/11 truthers are nuts.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-10-15   16:35:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

No tit, it is you and your fellow coworkers that won't stop talking about the nonsense of no planes and now no jumpers. If it was my forum all of you would be banned by now.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-10-15   16:37:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I am sure wudidiz cares.. I know I do... as does GreylMist.... we all care very much.. it is only our care that sustains us when interacting with folks such as yourself FL....

Care? No it is your paycheck for spreading disinfo that you care about, you care nothing about the truth of 9/11.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-10-15   16:39:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Just as so many other groups have been infiltrated, it was just a matter of time before someone decided it was time to do it with 4um members.

That was accomplished a long time ago with BeAChooser. Not sure what happened to that guy, probably moved on to a site that had more traffic.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-10-15   16:46:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

However, many more than that have died since in the Wars because of the 9/11 hoax that you are perpetuating.

You really are that dumb! I don't agree with Former Lurker on many things, but on 9/11 he is spot on.

Spreading disinfo as you are doing is keeping the hoax alive.

Real 9/11 truthers don't try to use illogical arguments to proclaim a very unlikely scenario the truth!

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-10-15   16:54:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

That was accomplished a long time ago with BeAChooser. Not sure what happened to that guy, probably moved on to a site that had more traffic.

I wasn't talking about online.

There have been shills here since before I even signed up for 4um. BAC was just a refugee from ElPee who was trying to keep his persona across differenet forums pretending to be a "sincere poster", even though everyone knew he was a shill.

No, I'm talking about something different.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-10-15   19:27:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

What it is that they're trying to do besides drive away readers is to exhaust those they see as a threat to their agenda.

They've been tag teaming me for weeks now, then THEY yell "disinfo" and claim themselves to be "caring" of 9/11 Truth.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-10-15   19:34:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I don't agree with Former Lurker on many things, but on 9/11 he is spot on.

Thanks, I think? :)

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-10-15   19:34:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I can see you're very attached to the idea that there were planes, but why is it that you can't name one witness? Why should I have to go to new york and interview people there? Doesn't the gov't have a list of eyewitnesses? Does anyone? I mean, this was a serious event... didn't anyone take names of witnesses that say they saw a plane? I certainly would have had I been in charge. You'd think it'd be on the internet somewhere and that someone as convinced as yourself would have seen it. My goodness.

wudidiz  posted on  2012-10-15   20:02:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Do you have even ONE witness who'll testify as to what YOU claim? Anyone from a news agency, a reporter, a camera man, bystander, survivor, fireman, airport worker, airline employee, family member, ANYONE?

Were ALL those people "in on it"?

I've shown you a clip of live coverage and interviews from 9/11, THOSE are but some of the witnesses. And they ALL said people were jumping.

Are you also saying that there WERE no jumpers, as your pals are saying?

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-10-15   20:11:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

clip of live coverage and interviews from 9/11, THOSE are but some of the witnesses.

where?

wudidiz  posted on  2012-10-15   22:39:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Thanks, I think? :)

Thats a cute smiley face and all but I think RickyJ is a guy....

Getting older too.... how do those mid late 20s look? RIcky J I mean... I know he aint the young teen no more.....

Also how you responded to RickyJs post twice... The same exact fucking post... Spam much? You're not a dis info agent asshole... stop using their play book

That is what I talked about when I said "To use the disinformation tactics is to live by it." Here RickyJ is on your side and your all "thanks I think?"

DUDE.. don't snipe him... he is all you got.

____________________________________________________________ . . . The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself, Action!!!

titorite  posted on  2012-10-16   3:53:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

If it was my forum all of you would be banned by now.

I suppose you would not fight for my right to say what I need to say even if you disagreed with what I had to say.

Thats a damn shame because even though I am an Anarchist I totally agree with the first amendment of the US constitution and the right of freespeech and the upmost paramount importance of allowing and even defending and protecting your say.... even when I disagree with it.

Thank goodness the forum owner is a hardline free speech advocate.

____________________________________________________________ . . . The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself, Action!!!

titorite  posted on  2012-10-16   4:26:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

where?

I posted the clip several times on this thread. It was the clip concerning the jumpers, go back and wade through the spam your pals have been spewing on this thread and find it, I posted it to you directly, so it shouldn't be too difficult.

Oh yeah, your friend titorite remarked that he thought it was "cool" that people were getting splattered on the ground below.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-10-16   6:17:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

BTW wudidiz, do you agree with your no plane brethren that the jumpers were "faked", and that "Israeli art students" were tossing dummies off the towers instead?

Do you feel as GreyLmist, that the entrance holes and people standing in the broken windows were really filmed at a studio in Hollywood?

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-10-16   6:24:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

FormerLurker at #154: this "no plane" scheme designed to kill 3000 Americans that day?

Me at #163: Likely that many wouldn't have really been killed that day by plane-attack illusions -- which would make it more likely for some accomplices to agree to do their part in staging and promoting the attack scenarios. However, many more than that have died since in the Wars because of the 9/11 hoax that you are perpetuating.

[YouTube video] Where are the 9/11 Victims? - Social Security Death Index (SSDI) research

RickyJ at #231: You really are that dumb! I don't agree with Former Lurker on many things, but on 9/11 he is spot on.

Spreading disinfo as you are doing is keeping the hoax alive.

Real 9/11 truthers don't try to use illogical arguments to proclaim a very unlikely scenario the truth!

RickyJ posted at 4um on March 2, 2012 re: alleged Flt. 93 in Shanksville, PA

I always wondered about this one. Nothing about it makes much sense unless it was all planned this way. That is there was no one on the plane and that the whole thing was staged. The "let's roll" all staged with the plane being shot out of the sky to cover for the fact that no one was on the damn plane.

FL thinks there was no Flt. 77 at the Pentagon. Both of you are evidently semi-No Planers but act as WTC Gatekeeper zealots for the perps in New York and as sci-fi storytellers there of a limited hangout -- working to keep enough of the legendary plane-strike scenarios hobbling along among the public as a cover story for all that's transpired since with the foreign Wars and Police State constructions here. To that end you are even willing to proclaim a remote control techno-belief system with physics-defying and aeronautical-defying capabilities -- disinfo very closely in step with likewise unscientific official lines about the 9/11 hoax. Yet, you alternate between that plane-prop implausibility and invoking the sciences/scientific method as if they actually support your hypothesis about it but, logically speaking, they don't really. Remote control doesn't make planes exempt from ground effects, or able to exceed their structural speed limits, nor glide easily into buildings rather than breaking apart on the outside. You have stalled the 9/11 Truth Movement for over a decade with your dictatorial and evidenceless remote control rut that goes nowhere. Why? Because you are 9/11 Marketeers and group-think enforcers, not representatives of 9/11 Truthseekers.

Edited sentence 2.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-10-16   8:11:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Do you feel as GreyLmist, that the entrance holes and people standing in the broken windows were really filmed at a studio in Hollywood?

You're like talking to a brick wall. I showed you where to go to see how the entrance holes could have been rigged, even in the shape of a plane. [Edit to add: Click here again.] Now tell us why there are no coughing, smoke-exposed people in your video. [Edit to add: Where do you see broken windows there?] And those buildings were nearly a quarter mile high. People believing they saw jumpers at a distance isn't evidence of real jumpers. But here's what passes for evidence of someone supposedly killed by a jumper falling on them:

9-11 Pic: "Fr. Mychal Judge", alleged casualty

Edited for grammar + sentence 2 rewording + 2 bracketed inserts.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-10-16   8:33:13 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

where?

I posted the clip several times on this thread. It was the clip concerning the jumpers, go back and wade through the spam your pals have been spewing on this thread and find it, I posted it to you directly, so it shouldn't be too difficult.

That's your evidence of planes hitting the wtc? A video taken with news audio in the background? You heard that people saw it on tv so it must be true?

Wow. How convincing. /s

wudidiz  posted on  2012-10-16   8:53:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

No tit, it is you and your fellow coworkers that won't stop talking about the nonsense of no planes and now no jumpers. If it was my forum all of you would be banned by now.

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wudidiz  posted on  2012-10-16   8:59:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

South Tower Anomalies III - Addressing the Debunkers

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-10-16   9:12:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

This is a copy of your video at Post #190, FL. Try to stop-frame it from 7:28-7:29 and tell me if you see the tail of the plane image vanish, then turn downward.

9-11: People Jumping from World Trade Center (Warning: Graphic)

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-10-16   10:04:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Oh yeah, your friend titorite remarked that he thought it was "cool" that people were getting splattered on the ground below.

See that makes you a bold faced liar. But I think you already knew that. I mean thats well beyond twisting my words. That is just you being a lying shmuck.

Cool video bro does not equal cool people dying. You are a villain expecting others to believe your lies through repetition.

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titorite  posted on  2012-10-16   10:45:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Below is a copy of the CBS footage at #68 of the Smoke and Mirrors topic. It was posted for trajectory comparison but got no comment there:

CBS 9/11 9:02 - 9:12

Paraphrased post-excerpts: [That MSM 9/11 video] shows the plane appearing from behind the Empire State Building at 2:38 and 3:33. [Compare those impact-trajectory clips] to the trajectory that Bryant Gumble describes at 8:26 as "a different angle of the same plane."

Question: How different is the trajectory and impact example at 8:26?

1. Very different
2. Slightly different due to camera position only
3. There is no significant difference

Edited for formatting.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-10-16   11:03:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Try to stop-frame it from 7:28-7:29 and tell me if you see the tail of the plane image vanish, then turn downward.

No, nothing vanishes or turns downward. Try to accept the fact that you are wrong and that planes hit the towers.

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RickyJ  posted on  2012-10-16   14:46:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Keep on trolling. No facts or logic so you must troll.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-10-16   14:56:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Cool video bro does not equal cool people dying

Uh huh. At minimum, it was a mindless coldhearted response to a video which showed people jumping to their deaths.

That's why I responded to you the way I did in the subsequent response to you.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-10-16   15:03:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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