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Title: NO PLANER COINTELPRO Operation Becoming Transparent
Source: Prison Planet Forum
URL Source: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=945.50;wap2
Published: Aug 1, 2008
Author: Morgan Rose
Post Date: 2012-10-06 10:54:21 by FormerLurker
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Views: 15637
Comments: 309

COINTELPRO, an acronym for Counter Intelligence Program, was a series of covert operations conducted by the FBI starting in the mid 50’s and continuing until 1976 when it was exposed by the investigations The Church Committee. One of the primary methods of COINTELPRO consisted of forging pseudo-movement groups as a means of conducting Psychological Warfare operations to spread disinformation, disrupt, and divide existing movements. These ‘psy-ops’ tended to foment suspicions among the targeted movements and try to dissuade sympathies from people outside the targeted movement.

Today, COINTELPRO has reared its ugly head again, with infiltrations popping up everywhere from Anti-War activism groups to peaceful gun owners and militias. Provocations have become more and more conspicuous to the public as the Seattle World Trade Organization protests and Ontario Security and Prosperity Partnership protests successfully exposed provocateur operations. Of course, something as dangerous to the establishment *body politic* as 9/11 has not been without its alleged incidents of COINTELPRO action. Allegations of government disinformation have been swirling around certain figures in the movement, such as former Bush Administration official Morgan Reynolds, who has recently proposed that “no planes hit the World Trade Center”, has alleged “TV Fakery”, and submitted that the towers were brought down by “Directed Energy Weapons” a.k.a. “Laser Beams”.

While the government has spent innumerable resources trying to contradict eyewitness statements regarding reported explosions in the towers, Morgan Reynolds and his “mockingbirds” expect the 9/11 truth movement to put their energy into further contradicting even more numerous eyewitness statements . See a problem here?

Typical of the above outlined methods, “No Planers” have become a pseudo-movement, adding lunacy, deception, and division to the legitimate questions emanating from 9/11 families, first responders, government officials, intelligence experts, scientists, engineers, architects, academics, entertainment personalities, and so many others.

Perhaps the more visible purveyors of this pseudo-movement are supported by Paula Gloria’s “Concordia Foundation”. The “Concordia Foundation” claims 501 (c) 3, or “nonprofit” status, However, recent investigations conducted by concerned donors have uncovered that her “foundation” does not retain “nonprofit” status with the IRS. In fact, more rigorous inquires have obtained that no records of the “Concordia Foundation” even exist in its home state of New York. Funding of Paula Gloria’s “foundation” originates solely from an information technology firm, Bit By Bit Computer Consultants. “Donations” to the “Concordia Foundation” are actually billed directly to Bit By Bit. The apparent fraud has appropriately prompted multiple complaints with the FTC and IRS.

Bit By Bit, and its subsidiary 3BDigital, admittedly list among their portfolio Bloomberg LLC, Chase Bank, The National Football League, Citigroup, and The National Security Council. 3BDigital boasts to have partnerships with Nokia, Cisco Systems, IBM, Compaq, Microsoft, Goldman Sachs, and Level (3) Communications. Level (3) Communications, a defense contractor doing business, primarily, with US and UK interests, is the developer of the WESCAM system said to be the delivery mechanism for the supposed “TV Fakery”. Of course this is nonsense, but it is fascinating that these harlequins would incorporate their partnerships into their own theories.

The “Concordia Foundation” numbers among its surrogates Nico Haupt,” a man who exhibits *prima facie *schizophrenic behavior. Allegations of COINTELPRO surrounding Haupt have, in the past, seemed to be justified. WeAreChange recently had two unprovoked incidents with Haupt, where he assaulted the groups members, only to be ignored by onlooking NYPD.

Haupt continuously spreads disinformation, even abject lies, surrounding the 9/11 truth movement. From calling legitimate 9/11 truthers “Plane Huggers”, to claiming “Alex Jones works for ABC” and is “covering up for the media”, Haupt’s tactics and behavior exhibit classic COINTELPRO methods. Haupt even advocates “waterboarding Plane Huggers”.

So a “foundation” with intimate ties to international defense contractors, major Wall Street banks, prominent telecommunications firms, and The National Security council is a driving force behind the “No Plane” pseudo-movement?

The information promulgated by Paula Gloria, Nico Haupt, Morgan Reynolds, and others is clearly suspect in light of these new revelations. Whereas, before, all of the speculation regarding “No Plane” theories were simply diffused by logic and common sense, now we see that something much more sinister is at play. The divide and conquer tactics employed by these clowns has warranted past allegations of COINTELPRO. Today, the charade has been fully exposed: the pyschological warfare, the subliminals, the allegations of ‘cover-up’ within the movement, the show on the Howard Stern Channel. Although these revelations should prompt further investigation, it certainly begs the question: does it get any more transparent? Subscribe to *9-11*

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#2. To: FormerLurker (#0)

Thanks for the dogged defense of the positions that you have taken, FL.

Given the effect of ten years of debate on the internet, which has brought the debate out into the open and has now made discussion of these many questions acceptable in polite social conversation, a reaction on the part of the most dangerous parts of our establishment is to be expected.

We have to be extra vigilant these days when we examine evidence and theories as to causes and methods used in the attacks on that day. There is a lot of disinformation out there. COINTELPRO is not dead.

randge  posted on  2012-10-06   11:15:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: randge (#2) (Edited)

You're welcome randge. And it's quite obvious that COINTELPRO is not dead, it is thriving and kicking in full bloom.

It's to be expected with something as huge as 9/11 that it would be used to divide and conquer the truth movement, while at the same time discrediting those who are the most vocal, such as Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, Pilots for 9/11 Truth, etc.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-10-06   11:24:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: FormerLurker (#3)

i noticed that the clique of "mainstream" (kosher) truthers bombasted reynolds & fetzer yrs ago. Dr. Fetzer addresses the zionists & even the holhoax, which makes him trustworthy in my book.One may debate matters without necessarily being cointelpro.

Artisan  posted on  2012-10-06   20:09:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Artisan (#4)

Liking a guy because he claims to be "addressing the zionists" or pretends to do so, is like voting for Mitt Romney because he calls himself a conservative and pretends to be one.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-10-07   15:01:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: FormerLurker (#8)

he doesnt 'claim' to be discussing the forbidden topic of jews, It's just something i noticed after he was excluded from the kosher 'clique'. It has nothing to do with the no-plane stuff, a topic which i find irrelevent.

Artisan  posted on  2012-10-08   4:54:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Artisan (#14)

The "no plane" topic is a HUGE red flag for me, as it indicates the person peddling it has no grasp on reality at best, or is purposesly shelling out disinfo in earnest in order to discredit any actual evidence and research into the 9/11 attacks.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-10-08   12:23:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: FormerLurker, Artisan, GreyLmist, titorite, Original_ Intent (#15) (Edited)

You folks have been debating the planes/no planes issue for over 10 years now. Each of you likely thinks your theory is correct or as near correct as available information will allow. OK, already !!!

We all should be able to agree that the truth hasn't been discussed let alone exposed by the MSM. Their complicity is what should be discussed. The deaths caused by the attack and as a result of 9-11 seem to have been forgotten while the argument about planes or no planes drags on ad nauseum.

The fact that 9-11 even happened at all in spite of the billions spent on "security" and "intelligence" should be analyzed. Instead Americans re-elect Bush Jr. and his PNAC crew ... ya gotta be shittin me.

Sometimes I get depressed regarding the intellect of the "voting" public. Overall they're really too stupid to have any bearing upon my liberty but my point here is that most of you (FormerLurker, Artisan, GreyLmist, titorite, Original_ Intent) are more intelligent than the general public but here you are focusing upon an irrelevant and unsolvable subject that could be debated until Jesus returns instead of going after the guilty sons of evil/ugly bitches starting with Bush and his family since his mom is the ugliest and his dad is the evilest bitch on earth.

Voting in FEDERAL ELECTIONS is a sure sign of the voter's STUPIDITY.

Look at what's really going on around you. QE-Infinity - AKA Helicopter Ben's outta duh barn - AKA THERE AIN"T NO FUCKING MONEY. Forget about NO PLANES for a minute and realize that as long as they can print money out of thin air they don't need our taxes. They do that to guarantee that YOU STILL BELIEVE (in their bullshit system), that they still have control over your minds and souls. As long as we continue to accept the current monetary/tax system we are SLAVES and the most vile people upon earth are our masters.

If you've fallen for any of the following horseshit you are definitely too stupid to have any effect upon anyone's freedom.

[They hate our freedoms (what freedom)], [We must bail out the BANKS (banks already have ALL the money)], [If you don't vote, you have no right to complain (when we kill your kids or steal your wealth)], - and how about focusing on NO CANDIDATE instead of no planes. NO CHOICE-AGAIN and again and again.

noone222  posted on  2012-10-10   5:08:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#27. To: noone222, FormerLurker, *9-11*, *No Planers* (#26) (Edited)

FormerLurker will probably be along shortly to inform you of their doctrine that there's no such thing as MSM complicity concerning 9/11 and the WTC in New York.

I understand what you're saying. I've posted lots of evidence about 9/11 suspects and their linkages that generally get studiously suppressed/dismissed and the focus reset to targeting No Planers instead. The security and intel questions as to why 9/11 happened are important but it is also important to determine how it happened in order for accurate charges to be addressed. The No Planes investigation leads to Black Market trafficking in dual use parts like gyroscopes for guided missiles. Some COINTELPRO-type people are very motivated to undermine research in that direction but Boeing has a known history of over 100 such Arms Export Control Act violations. Thanks in advance for whatever patience you can muster through these issues.

Edited punctuation and sentence 4 of paragraph 2.

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-10-10 05:46:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: noone222, Artisan, GreyLmist, titorite, Original_ Intent (#26)

You folks have been debating the planes/no planes issue for over 10 years now. Each of you likely thinks your theory is correct or as near correct as available information will allow. OK, already !!!

Uh, nope. I've never seen any serious person discuss it before here on forum. It wasn't till wudidiz, GreyLmist, and titorite began plastering another 9/11 thread with their "no plane" snake oil several weeks ago that I actually responded with any sort of post pertaining to the possibility of "no planes".

It is absurd to hammer away on such a ridiculous theory where there is no evidence of such, and there are enough facts, scientific data, and historical documentation to nail those who were TRULY involved.

Thing is, the culprits are STILL at large, and another attack killing thousands of Americans could easily take place today, next week, or next month. THAT is why those who were behind 9/11 need to be identified, and the public needs to be informed of the evidence.

Discussing "no planes" only muddies the waters, and discredits legitimate researchers who have actual scientific data PROVING 9/11 was an "inside job".

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-10-10 11:05:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: noone222 (#26)

Outstanding!!!

christine  posted on  2012-10-10 19:24:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: noone222, christine, All (#26) (Edited)

Overall they're really too stupid to have any bearing upon my liberty but my point here is that most of you (FormerLurker, Artisan, GreyLmist, titorite, Original_ Intent) are more intelligent than the general public but here you are focusing upon an irrelevant and unsolvable subject that could be debated until Jesus returns instead of going after the guilty sons of evil/ugly bitches starting with Bush and his family since his mom is the ugliest and his dad is the evilest bitch on earth.

Just to reiterate, you have it wrong. I have NOT been "debating planes or no planes for 10 years". I have been involved with 9/11 research for 10 years, which includes controlled demolition of the towers and the reasons why it HAD to have been controlled demolition of some type. I've been involved with the matter of how physically impossible it would be for a person who couldn't fly a Cessna to have performed an impossible feat with a 757 airliner, flying it with its engines 3 feet off the ground at over 500 mph and striking the ground floor of the Pentagon with its nose level, and without so much as scraping the lawn.

I've been involved in presenting the timelines leading up to 9/11, including the Unocol pipeline negotiations with the Taliban, where having failed, led up to actions indicating a US/British invasion of Afghanistan was immiment, days BEFORE the 9/11 attacks occured.

Besides that and other significant information, I've posted information regarding Israeli Mossad involvement with the 9/11 attacks, including the arrests of those found with tons of explosives on the George Washington Bridge that day, as well as those who actually blew up a truck on King Street in NYC on the morning of the attacks.

It is those who consider themselves "no planers" who have brought up this "no planes" topic, spamming 9/11 threads with their disinformation and fraudulent "evidence", who have turned this into what it has become.

So don't try to lay blame on those who stand their ground and don't allow themselves to be silenced on matters providing evidence which SHOULD have been sufficient to bring criminal charges against the actual perps behind the 9/11 attacks.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-10-10 19:58:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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