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Title: NO PLANER COINTELPRO Operation Becoming Transparent
Source: Prison Planet Forum
URL Source: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=945.50;wap2
Published: Aug 1, 2008
Author: Morgan Rose
Post Date: 2012-10-06 10:54:21 by FormerLurker
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COINTELPRO, an acronym for Counter Intelligence Program, was a series of covert operations conducted by the FBI starting in the mid 50’s and continuing until 1976 when it was exposed by the investigations The Church Committee. One of the primary methods of COINTELPRO consisted of forging pseudo-movement groups as a means of conducting Psychological Warfare operations to spread disinformation, disrupt, and divide existing movements. These ‘psy-ops’ tended to foment suspicions among the targeted movements and try to dissuade sympathies from people outside the targeted movement.

Today, COINTELPRO has reared its ugly head again, with infiltrations popping up everywhere from Anti-War activism groups to peaceful gun owners and militias. Provocations have become more and more conspicuous to the public as the Seattle World Trade Organization protests and Ontario Security and Prosperity Partnership protests successfully exposed provocateur operations. Of course, something as dangerous to the establishment *body politic* as 9/11 has not been without its alleged incidents of COINTELPRO action. Allegations of government disinformation have been swirling around certain figures in the movement, such as former Bush Administration official Morgan Reynolds, who has recently proposed that “no planes hit the World Trade Center”, has alleged “TV Fakery”, and submitted that the towers were brought down by “Directed Energy Weapons” a.k.a. “Laser Beams”.

While the government has spent innumerable resources trying to contradict eyewitness statements regarding reported explosions in the towers, Morgan Reynolds and his “mockingbirds” expect the 9/11 truth movement to put their energy into further contradicting even more numerous eyewitness statements . See a problem here?

Typical of the above outlined methods, “No Planers” have become a pseudo-movement, adding lunacy, deception, and division to the legitimate questions emanating from 9/11 families, first responders, government officials, intelligence experts, scientists, engineers, architects, academics, entertainment personalities, and so many others.

Perhaps the more visible purveyors of this pseudo-movement are supported by Paula Gloria’s “Concordia Foundation”. The “Concordia Foundation” claims 501 (c) 3, or “nonprofit” status, However, recent investigations conducted by concerned donors have uncovered that her “foundation” does not retain “nonprofit” status with the IRS. In fact, more rigorous inquires have obtained that no records of the “Concordia Foundation” even exist in its home state of New York. Funding of Paula Gloria’s “foundation” originates solely from an information technology firm, Bit By Bit Computer Consultants. “Donations” to the “Concordia Foundation” are actually billed directly to Bit By Bit. The apparent fraud has appropriately prompted multiple complaints with the FTC and IRS.

Bit By Bit, and its subsidiary 3BDigital, admittedly list among their portfolio Bloomberg LLC, Chase Bank, The National Football League, Citigroup, and The National Security Council. 3BDigital boasts to have partnerships with Nokia, Cisco Systems, IBM, Compaq, Microsoft, Goldman Sachs, and Level (3) Communications. Level (3) Communications, a defense contractor doing business, primarily, with US and UK interests, is the developer of the WESCAM system said to be the delivery mechanism for the supposed “TV Fakery”. Of course this is nonsense, but it is fascinating that these harlequins would incorporate their partnerships into their own theories.

The “Concordia Foundation” numbers among its surrogates Nico Haupt,” a man who exhibits *prima facie *schizophrenic behavior. Allegations of COINTELPRO surrounding Haupt have, in the past, seemed to be justified. WeAreChange recently had two unprovoked incidents with Haupt, where he assaulted the groups members, only to be ignored by onlooking NYPD.

Haupt continuously spreads disinformation, even abject lies, surrounding the 9/11 truth movement. From calling legitimate 9/11 truthers “Plane Huggers”, to claiming “Alex Jones works for ABC” and is “covering up for the media”, Haupt’s tactics and behavior exhibit classic COINTELPRO methods. Haupt even advocates “waterboarding Plane Huggers”.

So a “foundation” with intimate ties to international defense contractors, major Wall Street banks, prominent telecommunications firms, and The National Security council is a driving force behind the “No Plane” pseudo-movement?

The information promulgated by Paula Gloria, Nico Haupt, Morgan Reynolds, and others is clearly suspect in light of these new revelations. Whereas, before, all of the speculation regarding “No Plane” theories were simply diffused by logic and common sense, now we see that something much more sinister is at play. The divide and conquer tactics employed by these clowns has warranted past allegations of COINTELPRO. Today, the charade has been fully exposed: the pyschological warfare, the subliminals, the allegations of ‘cover-up’ within the movement, the show on the Howard Stern Channel. Although these revelations should prompt further investigation, it certainly begs the question: does it get any more transparent? Subscribe to *9-11*

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#2. To: FormerLurker (#0)

Thanks for the dogged defense of the positions that you have taken, FL.

Given the effect of ten years of debate on the internet, which has brought the debate out into the open and has now made discussion of these many questions acceptable in polite social conversation, a reaction on the part of the most dangerous parts of our establishment is to be expected.

We have to be extra vigilant these days when we examine evidence and theories as to causes and methods used in the attacks on that day. There is a lot of disinformation out there. COINTELPRO is not dead.

randge  posted on  2012-10-06   11:15:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: randge (#2) (Edited)

You're welcome randge. And it's quite obvious that COINTELPRO is not dead, it is thriving and kicking in full bloom.

It's to be expected with something as huge as 9/11 that it would be used to divide and conquer the truth movement, while at the same time discrediting those who are the most vocal, such as Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, Pilots for 9/11 Truth, etc.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-10-06   11:24:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: FormerLurker (#3)

i noticed that the clique of "mainstream" (kosher) truthers bombasted reynolds & fetzer yrs ago. Dr. Fetzer addresses the zionists & even the holhoax, which makes him trustworthy in my book.One may debate matters without necessarily being cointelpro.

Artisan  posted on  2012-10-06   20:09:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Artisan (#4)

Liking a guy because he claims to be "addressing the zionists" or pretends to do so, is like voting for Mitt Romney because he calls himself a conservative and pretends to be one.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-10-07   15:01:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: FormerLurker (#8)

he doesnt 'claim' to be discussing the forbidden topic of jews, It's just something i noticed after he was excluded from the kosher 'clique'. It has nothing to do with the no-plane stuff, a topic which i find irrelevent.

Artisan  posted on  2012-10-08   4:54:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Artisan (#14)

The "no-plane" nonsense seems pretty clearly to be disinformation planted to disinform, discredit 911 Truth, and mislead.

I don't pretend to have the final data set but I think it is safe to say that the "Official Conspiracy Theory" involving a "Magic Arab" with his "Charmed Cellphone" in a cave in Tora Bora makes about as much sense as "no planes". In other words both are disinfo.

I do think focusing on the likely Mossad connection is a bit of a Red Herring as well. It is not that I do not think that there were Israelis involved, but that they were not in charge of the Op but just one of the players.

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-10-08   14:26:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Original_Intent (#17)

The "no-plane" nonsense seems pretty clearly to be disinformation planted to disinform, discredit 911 Truth, and mislead.

And why do you say that?

Have you looked into it as deep as you could have?

I know I did not become a no planer over night.

But their remain problems... big glaring huge ,"drive a mack truck through the hole in the plot" problems...

Problems I can not turn a blind eye away from.

Inconsistencies I refuse to ignore.

One plane can not be caught on camera flying on different flight paths.

.......

I am not attempting to mislead anyone. I may not have the fine debate skills of GreyLmist but at least I don't resort to using disinformation tactics strait from the disinformation hand book.... it is very hard to deal with that kind of shit Original-Intent... god knows FormerLurker is just getting his jollies off on it all... thats part of the problem with utilising the tactics of disinformation.... Amateur enthusiasts forget the tactics are a weapon and then that becomes their default style of internet posting.... In my view he discredited himself..... especially when he crossed that line of using innocent bystanders to get at me. One should never use another friends against them... only scum do that. ......

This topic has exhausted me.

I don't get paid for this shit... I damn sure earned nothing for my tens of thousands of hours of investigation. ..... I am no shill. I am not discrediting anything.... I may not know the whole truth of all.. in fact if I did I would probably need to stand trial.. as for the planes though...

NO plane at the pentagon.

No plane at shanksville.

No planes.

titorite  posted on  2012-10-08   16:41:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: titorite (#20)

One plane can not be caught on camera flying on different flight paths.

Isn't it amazing what can be done with Photoshop these days?

The "no-planes" does not pass the smell test. There is too much independent footage, too many witnesses, and it would simply be technologically more advanced and complicated than I credit the gooburmunt with.

No, the planes did not bring down the buildings, but the combination of internal demolition charges (nano-thermites and possibly a micro-nuke or two) along with some type of microwave or particle beam better accounts for the observed phenomena - particularly in terms of the microfine concrete dust.

No, the "no planes" is planted disinformation - of that I am pretty well convinced just in terms of logic and known, or even extrapolated, available technology.

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-10-10   18:41:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Original_Intent, titorite (#37)

The "no-planes" does not pass the smell test. There is too much independent footage, too many witnesses, and it would simply be technologically more advanced and complicated than I credit the gooburmunt with.

Independent footage?

Witnesses?

Really?

You don't think videos can be faked and aired on tv?

Really?

wudidiz  posted on  2012-10-11   2:39:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: wudidiz (#57)

Independent footage?

Witnesses?

Really?

You don't think videos can be faked and aired on tv?

Really?

Oh, of course video can be faked - and that cuts both ways.

If someone wanted to plant a disinformation RED HERRING in the age of Photoshop and other advanced graphics tools it has become an art form unto itself.

What I am looking at is my own knowledge of technology and the evidence of the building collapses.

As I pointed out above the "No Planes" hypothesis is largely irrelevant even if true. The real evidence in the case is the signatures left by explosive demolition and the possible use of some sort of beam weapon whether Laser/Graser/Microwave etc., .... That is one of the primary reasons I both discount and shy away from the "NO PLANES" hypothesis and assign it to the disinformation category as it leads away from the "Best Evidence" and into the realm of pure speculation. Even if they were holograms, which I do not believe, it is by large irrelevant in determining who took the buildings down and how. It is a "Rube Golberg" solution.

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-10-11   18:33:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Original_Intent (#63)

Please.

Let's see the independent footage.

Witnesses? Who?

wudidiz  posted on  2012-10-12   2:12:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: wudidiz (#73)

Witnesses? Who?

Do you think the people of NYC who were in adjacent office buildings, on the street, in their cars, in the WTC towers, along with the fire crews and police, were all blind?

And what about the passengers of the aircraft, were they in on it too? The flight crews, the airlines, the airports, were they in on this grand scheme?

What about the news crews on the scene, were they in on it as well?

Do you think ALL those people were in on a grand scheme to not only pull off a series of "faked" impacts, but resulting explosions and collapse of the towers, leading to the murder of 3000 Americans?

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-10-12   10:04:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: FormerLurker (#80) (Edited)

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wudidiz  posted on  2012-10-12   10:26:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: wudidiz (#88)

Who are the witnesses?

Do you think NYC is a tiny little cow town with 10 people milking cows at 9AM? It is FILLED with millions of people, ANY which of whom could be at a vantage point to witness the attack on the WTC, ESPECIALLY after the 1st impact where it was on all news stations that a plane had hit the WTC.

Do you have ANY witness who says they were looking at the towers from a vantage point where they should have seen the plane impact the tower, yet only saw an explosion, no plane?

Again, do you think all the news networks, their news crews on the scene, the police and firemen who were there, along with the passengers, flight crews, air traffic controllers, airline personnel, airport personnel, ALL conspired together to attack the WTC with explosives leading to the murder of 3000 Americans?

Do you have even one shred of evidence of anything you claim?

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-10-12   10:44:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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