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Title: NO PLANER COINTELPRO Operation Becoming Transparent
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URL Source: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=945.50;wap2
Published: Aug 1, 2008
Author: Morgan Rose
Post Date: 2012-10-06 10:54:21 by FormerLurker
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COINTELPRO, an acronym for Counter Intelligence Program, was a series of covert operations conducted by the FBI starting in the mid 50’s and continuing until 1976 when it was exposed by the investigations The Church Committee. One of the primary methods of COINTELPRO consisted of forging pseudo-movement groups as a means of conducting Psychological Warfare operations to spread disinformation, disrupt, and divide existing movements. These ‘psy-ops’ tended to foment suspicions among the targeted movements and try to dissuade sympathies from people outside the targeted movement. Today, COINTELPRO has reared its ugly head again, with infiltrations popping up everywhere from Anti-War activism groups to peaceful gun owners and militias. Provocations have become more and more conspicuous to the public as the Seattle World Trade Organization protests and Ontario Security and Prosperity Partnership protests successfully exposed provocateur operations. Of course, something as dangerous to the establishment *body politic* as 9/11 has not been without its alleged incidents of COINTELPRO action. Allegations of government disinformation have been swirling around certain figures in the movement, such as former Bush Administration official Morgan Reynolds, who has recently proposed that “no planes hit the World Trade Center”, has alleged “TV Fakery”, and submitted that the towers were brought down by “Directed Energy Weapons” a.k.a. “Laser Beams”. While the government has spent innumerable resources trying to contradict eyewitness statements regarding reported explosions in the towers, Morgan Reynolds and his “mockingbirds” expect the 9/11 truth movement to put their energy into further contradicting even more numerous eyewitness statements . See a problem here? Typical of the above outlined methods, “No Planers” have become a pseudo-movement, adding lunacy, deception, and division to the legitimate questions emanating from 9/11 families, first responders, government officials, intelligence experts, scientists, engineers, architects, academics, entertainment personalities, and so many others. Perhaps the more visible purveyors of this pseudo-movement are supported by Paula Gloria’s “Concordia Foundation”. The “Concordia Foundation” claims 501 (c) 3, or “nonprofit” status, However, recent investigations conducted by concerned donors have uncovered that her “foundation” does not retain “nonprofit” status with the IRS. In fact, more rigorous inquires have obtained that no records of the “Concordia Foundation” even exist in its home state of New York. Funding of Paula Gloria’s “foundation” originates solely from an information technology firm, Bit By Bit Computer Consultants. “Donations” to the “Concordia Foundation” are actually billed directly to Bit By Bit. The apparent fraud has appropriately prompted multiple complaints with the FTC and IRS. Bit By Bit, and its subsidiary 3BDigital, admittedly list among their portfolio Bloomberg LLC, Chase Bank, The National Football League, Citigroup, and The National Security Council. 3BDigital boasts to have partnerships with Nokia, Cisco Systems, IBM, Compaq, Microsoft, Goldman Sachs, and Level (3) Communications. Level (3) Communications, a defense contractor doing business, primarily, with US and UK interests, is the developer of the WESCAM system said to be the delivery mechanism for the supposed “TV Fakery”. Of course this is nonsense, but it is fascinating that these harlequins would incorporate their partnerships into their own theories. The “Concordia Foundation” numbers among its surrogates Nico Haupt,” a man who exhibits *prima facie *schizophrenic behavior. Allegations of COINTELPRO surrounding Haupt have, in the past, seemed to be justified. WeAreChange recently had two unprovoked incidents with Haupt, where he assaulted the groups members, only to be ignored by onlooking NYPD. Haupt continuously spreads disinformation, even abject lies, surrounding the 9/11 truth movement. From calling legitimate 9/11 truthers “Plane Huggers”, to claiming “Alex Jones works for ABC” and is “covering up for the media”, Haupt’s tactics and behavior exhibit classic COINTELPRO methods. Haupt even advocates “waterboarding Plane Huggers”. So a “foundation” with intimate ties to international defense contractors, major Wall Street banks, prominent telecommunications firms, and The National Security council is a driving force behind the “No Plane” pseudo-movement? The information promulgated by Paula Gloria, Nico Haupt, Morgan Reynolds, and others is clearly suspect in light of these new revelations. Whereas, before, all of the speculation regarding “No Plane” theories were simply diffused by logic and common sense, now we see that something much more sinister is at play. The divide and conquer tactics employed by these clowns has warranted past allegations of COINTELPRO. Today, the charade has been fully exposed: the pyschological warfare, the subliminals, the allegations of ‘cover-up’ within the movement, the show on the Howard Stern Channel. Although these revelations should prompt further investigation, it certainly begs the question: does it get any more transparent?
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#257. To: titorite (#255)
And that IS what you are trying to discredit isn't it, anything to do with scientific evidence pertaining to what really happened there on the morning of 9/11/2001. Lump your bat shit crazy theories of network media collusion in producing all the 9/11 footage of the WTC attacks in Hollywood, fake victims, fake jumpers, fake entrance holes, etc. with actual scientific data proving a 757 COULDN'T have performed as described at the Pentagon, in order to bury that info. But again, you thought a video of people jumping to their deaths from the WTC towers on the morning of 9/11 was a "cool video". I can think of many ways to describe it, but that wouldn't be one of them. So now you claim that I'm lying, yet you can't quite say what exactly it is I'm lying about. It's obvious that you are here to disrupt, and anyone reading this thread, amongst other threads, should be able to see that. It wouldn't matter since the doctored video is DOCTORED VIDEO.
Did you watch the right one? Apparently you haven't. Look at the one which includes witness inteviews on the scene, along with all the other footage within that video. It's a hell of a lot more than what you callously describe. And no, it's not anything about "planes hitting the wtc", it's about the unfortunate souls who jumped to their deaths to escape the fires. Your comrades are saying that nobody died jumping from the WTC, that what people were seeing was actually stage props that "someone" was tossing from the windows. Hey, maybe it was the Easter Bunny doing it, right? And that IS what you are trying to discredit isn't it, anything to do with scientific evidence pertaining to what really happened there on the morning of 9/11/2001. Lump your bat shit crazy theories of network media collusion in producing all the 9/11 footage of the WTC attacks in Hollywood, fake victims, fake jumpers, fake entrance holes, etc. with actual scientific data proving a 757 COULDN'T have performed as described at the Pentagon, in order to bury that info. But again, you thought a video of people jumping to their deaths from the WTC towers on the morning of 9/11 was a "cool video". I can think of many ways to describe it, but that wouldn't be one of them. So now you claim that I'm lying, yet you can't quite say what exactly it is I'm lying about. It's obvious that you are here to disrupt, and anyone reading this thread, amongst other threads, should be able to see that. I noticed you edited out the JK I posted right after the end of the quoted sentence. Why did you omit that? What was the point of the manipulation? How many lies are you going to make up and repeat before you understand that we don't forget. Their is no limit to the memory of the internet. What did you lie about quite specifically? Do you really need your memory refreshed so recently? .............in post 240 you said: Oh yeah, your friend titorite remarked that he thought it was "cool" that people were getting splattered on the ground below. ............ I did not remark that I thought is was "cool" that people were splattering on the ground. I specifically said "cool video bro" .... You have attempted here in the t post, to connect and attribute extra stuff I did not say or feel. You seek to attach inhumanity to me Deceiver. You lie. You are lying to make your case. Shame on you. That is not what truthers do. That is how you lose your own humanity. ____________________________________________________________ . . . The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself, Action!!!
No matter how you spin it, you responded to a video of people jumping to deaths, with "cool video". I'm not your "bro" by the way. So are you on the same page as your cohort, where you believe that nobody jumped to their deaths that morning, it was all done in Hollywood, or somebody was tossing stage props out the windows of the WTC? I'm not your "bro" by the way. So are you on the same page as your cohort, where you believe that nobody jumped to their deaths that morning, it was all done in Hollywood, or somebody was tossing stage props out the windows of the WTC? Lurker, you are the one spinning, You are trying to worm your way out of the spot light of being a bold face manipulative liar. You lied. You attempted to deceive everyone here in your defamation of my character. I did not say the stuff you attempted to attribute to me. I am not spinning anything because the truth needs no spin. The story of the truth does not change. You have changed your version many times now... ____________________________________________________________ . . . The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself, Action!!!
Like I said many posts ago, I don't have time to argue circular arguments with shills and idiots. Good luck with your mission, I'm sure you'll be stomping your feet and screaming at the top of your lungs that the Easter Bunny hit the towers with eggs on 9/11, don't know how many people will agree with you, but that's your problem. Good thing it wasn't on tv or we'd have the painful task of trying to change your mind about that too. After 260 posts can you now just give me afreakin link to these witnesses of which you speak? What? The video I posted at #249 isn't a 2003 PBS documentary clip that used altered CBS 9/11 footage of the Empire State Building angle. It is actual CBS 9/11 footage and reporting which you can verify with other examples of the timeframe segment that day. The plane-impact trajectory at 8:26 is very different from what was broadcast earlier at 2:38 and 3:33 -- not merely a different camera angle of the same plane. Edited last sentence. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
wudidiz at #254 to Me: Clearly. RickyJ at #250 to Me: No, nothing vanishes or turns downward. Try to accept the fact that you are wrong and that planes hit the towers. titorite at #256 to RickyJ: You did not watch it. Try to accept the fact, Ricky, that FL's video shows fake plane imagery at 7:28-7:29, as well as fake figures within it not reacting to smoke-exposure by coughing or attempting to avoid it the best they could, as real people would. It is not evidence of a real plane-strike at the WTC or real victims/jumpers at broken/blasted windows or that the alleged witnesses weren't lying or duped. It is evidence of fakery. Edited for grammar. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
It is you and yours who are trying to shift the focus and blame away from the guilty, especially at the WTC. Your fearmongering and smear campaigning about No Planes investigations are boomeranging back at you and your sector. It does not give you the appearance at all of being a valid 9/11 Researcher/Truthseeker with ethical standards of scientific method. It makes you look to be in the business of 9/11 Marketing, Storytelling, and crazed covering for the Acts of War and Criminality against us in New York. Edited for spelling. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Well children, you've convinced me that 19 arabs did 9/11 with box cutters because they hated our freedoms. I'll go vote for Romney and wave the flag. USA! USA! USA!
Good luck with your mission, I'm sure you'll be stomping your feet and screaming at the top of your lungs that the Easter Bunny hit the towers with eggs on 9/11, don't know how many people will agree with you, but that's your problem. Oh there is no need to wish me luck. I am no shill nor idiot but you remain a villain. And at this point there is no circular argument of any kind. .... not regarding me and you. If we scroll back to post 240 we can all see how much you regard the truth. I need no luck to continue the mission of spreading the truth. Not from the likes of you Lurker. Being wrong is one thing. YOu are not wrong lurker. You are a liar. Stop Fibbing. Shake off your propaganda. ____________________________________________________________ . . . The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself, Action!!!
As usual, you are a lying POS. There is NOTHING in that segment which indicates "fakery". And as far as these "fake figures" you are calling the jumpers, you are an even bigger POS. Face it, 9/11 happened. It most certainly didn't happen as the government story tells us, but there WERE attacks, it's just WHO was behind those attacks that is in question. There WERE no manniquins or "fake figures", no "props" in terms of humans jumping off the towers, there was no "fake entrance hole", and there was no Hollywood studio where the 9/11 events were filmed. You are actively spewing disinformation, and either out of maliciousness or pure stupidity, you have attracted a loyal following who believe you as if you were their pastor, guru, or prophet. Thing is, I count two people so far who are following your footsteps. Better work harder if you want millions to believe you. And since YOU love to toss the words "liar" and "disinfo" around so much, where it's plainly obvious that YOU are maliciously posting outright lies, I'd lump you into that same category as your mentor, GreyLmist. A shill. One who pretends he's not in order to gain trust, then performs his duties as required when it's time. But it's clear that when you have an opportunity to twist, distort, and outright lie about something, ANYTHING, in regards to 9/11, you take it. What are you talking about Former Lurker? You can post things in error and I can post things in error but you did not make any error. YOU LIED to the board at large and thought you could get a free pass. That I would not spot it or that nobody else would spot it or be concerned with it I however am concerned with you attempting to quote me and then lying about what I typed in the sole effort to assassinate my character rather than debunk the issues....Debunking the issues has proven time and again to be beyond you. So...... I guess their is no more point to this conversation then. I mean if you refuse to be honest I'm just gonna put you back on ignore and let you have the last lying word because it won't mean anything. Lies expose themselves. It is a shame you took the low road. ____________________________________________________________ . . . The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself, Action!!!
Changing the channel to No Planes Theory - Pilots For 9-11 Truth Forum
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
You have yet to point out anything I've lied about.
Another lie compounded by a lie. You lied about me, about what I said and thought and meant. I have pointed it out to you and the board at large several times. You're just a lying villain. Cased closed , end of story, game over, you lose and you lose because you employed the tactics of the liars. ____________________________________________________________ . . . The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself, Action!!!
With all that tap dancing, you apparently forgot to mention what I was supposed to have "lied" about.
IN post two hundred and forty you remarked that : Oh yeah, your friend titorite remarked that he thought it was "cool" that people were getting splattered on the ground below. I never said no such thing. I said cool vid bro. IT had lots of insightful things. Obvious inconsistencies that are easy to point out to normal sane rational people. A good compilation of recordings. Cool Vid bro. ........ Not cool dead splattering on the ground. YOU LIED JUST TO DEMONIZE ME And you thought that would be OK... that it would not detract from your credibility or character. As if all of a sudden a special exception was just for Former Lurker allowing for lying to be cool...... But their is no special exception and that shit aint cool. You then lied about your lies... I have been pointing it out. Everyone noticed. EVERYONE! You whole silly little thread here has very well proven the point of your inability to debate with out resorting to character assassination attempts and out right lies. ........ I forgot to put you on ignore last night.... Let me go fix that ____________________________________________________________ . . . The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself, Action!!!
I never said no such thing. I said cool vid bro Most people would consider "cool video bro" to be rather tasteless when it comes to a video of people jumping to their deaths. So you can try to twist it into meaning something different, but that just shows you're trying to weasle out of what you said since I've called you on it. It appears now as though this particular discussion may be swiftly and surely approaching the point of diminishing returns .
Without a doubt.
____________________________________________________________ . . . The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself, Action!!!
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the 1 thing neither of u have convinced me of is WHY the minute details of exactly how 911 occurred even matter IF the goal is to get the public to comprehend false flag tactic by govt to employ tyranny. You should remember how little most folks know.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
Well we are not really talking to uninformed public here ... Here we are all well informed people. Being that I only aim to better inform the well informed among us. IF you wonder why it is important to me.... well it has always been important to me. Spreading the truth... you know that.... in this particular aspect... this no planes thing , well that is a big part of the lie and it has to be brought to light just like everything else. Everything that is a falsehood need to be exposed as a falsehood.... Thats just regarding this one subject though........ I do have other interests too. :D ____________________________________________________________ . . . The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself, Action!!!
Not sure how to answer your question, so I'll go with titorite's answer in #285. Final answer. You need to edit it again to show your imaginary plane tail vanishing and then moving downward because it isn't in that one. God is always good!
The sole reason they keep this up is to smear the 9/11 truth movement. It isn't that hard to see. 4um has itself some paid trolls. God is always good!
Well that was a childish move on your part. I mean I have all sorts of civility issues..... but I try darn it. I try. I make honest efforts. You RickyJ are just being a dick for the sake of being a dick. If you have issue with any videos take it up with the government not us... we only point out the inconsistencies. ____________________________________________________________ . . . The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself, Action!!!
Look at you.. Look at you and your actions. You call us a smear? GreyLmist has been the paramount of civil and polite and yall have said the most vile shit to her....... You scum. YOU ARE WRONG! Not just about 911 but your whole entire approach to discussing it! You vilify your brothers and sisters because you dislike what we say and it has nothing to do with the evidence because YOU WONT LOOK DAMN EVIDENCE. Trolling? Fuck no. We watch your vids and read your words.... You dismiss our vids and gloss over our words and enjoy asskissing contests with each other BUT I ASSURE YOU THAT AN ASS KISSING CONTEST WILL NOT GET JUSTICE!!! In fact at this point probably nothing will get justice. At this point all we can really do is teach our children the truth... That is one of the realities of the situation... Another reality is that you rickyJ act like a complete genital wart on this matter. I mean fuck you filth bag. I am just as real as you so is wudidiz and geryL ..... aint not a god damn one of us paid and even if we were .... their is not enough compensation around to deal with villians like you and lurker. No we do this as a labor of love. We want the truth out. We have seen through some pretty dark veils and not lost our sanity... now all we can do is fight the sharp up hill inclined battle for the truth........... which is especially hard with fuck stains like you and lurker ESPECIALLY WHEN YOUR WILLING TO LIE!!!! Not you Ricky..... Of all your shit I never caught you in a lie yet.... so you have that plus going for you.... Now if you could just stop hatting on people that know a bit more than you... I mean it does not benefit you to despise your peers. ____________________________________________________________ . . . The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself, Action!!!
I posted a link to #190 where it can also be seen there in the video that wasn't posted by me. That you claim not to see it doesn't mean that others can't. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
The 9/11 Truth Movement isn't defined by some control grid of 9/11 Marketeers and Storytellers like you. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
plane with wing plane with less wing From this vid at about 7:28 From your video
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That's a compressed video that's prone to artifacts. MPEG compression is based upon the idea of only updating pixels in an image which change from frame to frame, and which persist beyond a time threshold, below which changes in color are likely to go unnoticed by the human brain. So if the motion is faster than what the algorithm determines is unperceptable changes in color, it tosses out that information. The fuselage has a longer duration across the screen, hence it's visible the entire time. The lower wing crosses behind the building next to the WTC, hence its base color is seen as persisting longer. The idea is to show motion, not unperceptable changes, and not crystal clear static images that can be frozen for each frame. The resolution depends on the camera and the editing software, and the amount of data loss depends on the codecs used for conversion and compression. The thing is, only by looking at ANALOG video, ie. NON-DIGITAL video, such as that recorded on an older video camera, and played back on a VCR, OR the original raw uncompressed digital video would any legitimate analysis of such discrepencies be possible. Most consumer cameras highly compress the video as they record, whether they are writing to disk or flash card. Higher end cameras using digital tape may offer less compression, but still use SOME amount of compression in order to write the tape in MPEG-2 format. Don't you think if someone could (or would) fake everything you claim was faked, they'd be able to show a complete airplane if they were going to fake one on video?
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestNor is it anything to do with the subject at hand which is no planes at the pentagon!
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#258. To: GreyLmist (#249)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#259. To: wudidiz (#244)
That's your evidence of planes hitting the wtc? A video taken with news audio in the background?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#260. To: FormerLurker (#257)
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Nor is it anything to do with the subject at hand which is no planes at the pentagon!
#261. To: titorite (#260)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#262. To: FormerLurker (#261)
No matter how you spin it, you responded to a video of people jumping to deaths, with "cool video".
#263. To: titorite (#262)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#264. To: FormerLurker, titorite (#263)
the Easter Bunny hit the towers with eggs on 9/11
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry
#265. To: FormerLurker (#259)
Did you watch the right one? Apparently you haven't. Look at the one which includes witness inteviews on the scene, along with all the other footage within that video.
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry
#266. To: FormerLurker, *9-11* (#258)
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It wouldn't matter since the doctored video is DOCTORED VIDEO.
#267. To: RickyJ, wudidiz, titorite, FormerLurker, *9-11* (#250)
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Me at #247on FL's video copied there from #190: Try to stop-frame it from 7:28-7:29 and tell me if you see the tail of the plane image vanish, then turn downward.
#268. To: FormerLurker (#253)
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seems like you and your friends certainly ARE trying to shift the blame away from the guilty, by making all 9/11 researchers appear to be lunatics and crackpots.
#269. To: All (#268)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#270. To: FormerLurker (#263)
Like I said many posts ago, I don't have time to argue circular arguments with shills and idiots.
#271. To: GreyLmist, wudidiz, titorite RickyJ, tom007, christine, *9-11* (#267)
Try to accept the fact, Ricky, that FL's video shows fake plane imagery at 7:28-7:29, as well as fake figures
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#272. To: titorite, GreyLmist, All (#270)
If we scroll back to post 240 we can all see how much you regard the truth.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#273. To: FormerLurker (#272)
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#274. To: FormerLurker (#271)
#275. To: titorite (#273)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#276. To: FormerLurker (#275)
You have yet to point out anything I've lied about.
#277. To: titorite (#276)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#278. To: FormerLurker (#277)
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With all that tap dancing, you apparently forgot to mention what I was supposed to have "lied" about.
#279. To: titorite (#278)
Oh yeah, your friend titorite remarked that he thought it was "cool" that people were getting splattered on the ground below.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#280. To: titorite (#278)
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry
#281. To: wudidiz (#280)
#282. To: All, *9-11* (#280)
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry
#283. To: All (#282)
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry
#284. To: wudidiz, titorite (#283)
#285. To: Artisan (#284)
#286. To: Artisan, titorite (#284)
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry
#287. To: GreyLmist (#267)
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Edited for grammar.
#288. To: Artisan (#284)
the 1 thing neither of u have convinced me of is WHY the minute details of exactly how 911 occurred even matter IF the goal is to get the public to comprehend false flag tactic by govt to employ tyranny. You should remember how little most folks know.
#289. To: RickyJ (#287)
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You need to edit it again to show your imaginary plane tail vanishing and then moving downward because it isn't in that one.
#290. To: RickyJ (#288)
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The sole reason they keep this up is to smear the 9/11 truth movement. It isn't that hard to see. 4um has itself some paid trolls.
#291. To: RickyJ (#287)
You need to edit it again to show your imaginary plane tail vanishing and then moving downward because it isn't in that one.
#292. To: RickyJ (#288)
The sole reason they keep this up is to smear the 9/11 truth movement.
#293. To: RickyJ, GreyLmist, titorite, *9-11*, *No Planers*, *Black Ops - Psyops* (#287)
youtu.be/IjYghdfi0PQ
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry
#294. To: FormerLurker (#293)
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry
#295. To: All, *9-11* (#294)
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry
#296. To: wudidiz (#293)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
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