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Title: CHEMTRAILS Exposed on Discovery Channel
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URL Source: http://youtu.be/yZFNJplylns
Published: Oct 8, 2012
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Post Date: 2012-10-08 17:17:25 by farmfriend
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#1. To: farmfriend (#0) (Edited)

The BS about ice crystals lasting for hours, suspended in the atmosphere, is just that.

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Lod  posted on  2012-10-08   17:50:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Lod (#1)

actually it is not.


Does anyone honestly believe that the global elites whose wealth and power depend on manipulation of the global chess board would leave something like the Presidency up to chance?

farmfriend  posted on  2012-10-08   19:52:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: farmfriend (#0)

Note the reporter who reports that the chemtrails are to "slow climate change" without an iota of data to support this claim. lol

It'ts benevolent.....has to be benevolent.......can't be anything other than benevolent because our goobermint is good!

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abraxas  posted on  2012-10-08   20:12:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Lod (#1)

The BS about ice crystals lasting for hours, suspended in the atmosphere, is just that.

L I did NOT watch the video so what I am saying may be out of context, but there are a lot of ice crystals floating about in the atmosphere.

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tom007  posted on  2012-10-08   20:42:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: farmfriend (#2)

OK.

They can last.

That doesn't make them chemtrails, or vice verse.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2012-10-08   20:47:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: tom007, Lod (#4)

L I did NOT watch the video so what I am saying may be out of context, but there are a lot of ice crystals floating about in the atmosphere.

I often hear and see it said that contrails do not persist in the atmosphere, they dissipate right away. Supposedly only chemtrails last. I would take contrails lasting longer as a sign of climate change before I believe it was chemtrails. this is not to say chemtrails don't exist though I'm still up in the air on that one. The upper atmosphere is cooling and this would cause ice crystals to persist longer than has been noted in previous decades.


Does anyone honestly believe that the global elites whose wealth and power depend on manipulation of the global chess board would leave something like the Presidency up to chance?

farmfriend  posted on  2012-10-08   21:19:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: abraxas (#3)

Note the reporter who reports that the chemtrails are to "slow climate change" without an iota of data to support this claim.

the patent on spraying aluminum if for climate mediation. but yes I think climate change is the excuse.


Does anyone honestly believe that the global elites whose wealth and power depend on manipulation of the global chess board would leave something like the Presidency up to chance?

farmfriend  posted on  2012-10-08   21:21:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: farmfriend (#6)

The upper atmosphere is cooling and this would cause ice crystals to persist longer than has been noted in previous decades.

From what I just learned, this is true; depending on the altitude and the relative humidity.

But ice crystals do linger in the atmosphere much, much longer than I thought.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2012-10-08   21:31:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: farmfriend, abraxas, Lod (#6)

WW2 Air Raids Affected the Weather

Allied bombing raids leaving from Britain seem to have affected the local climatic conditions. Rob MacKenzie, now at the University of Birmingham, and Roger Timmis of the British Environment Agency looked at weather records from 1943 to 1945 and found that after massive air raids the areas the planes flew over were cooler than similar areas nearby.

Discovery News recently wrote about how modern planes affect the weather.

The white vapor trail left by an airplane, called a contrail, can cause weather changes. The contrails form when hot, particulate-filled airplane exhaust blasts into the cold air of the upper atmosphere, in a layer called the troposphere. Sometimes the contrails simply fade away, but they can also become seeds for larger cirrus clouds. The thin, wispy cirrus clouds block some of the sun's rays, causing the shaded area underneath to be cooler.

"Witnesses to the huge bombing formations recall that the sky was turned white by aircraft contrails," said MacKenzie in a Wiley-Blackwell press release.

"It was apparent to us that the Allied bombing of WW2 represented an inadvertent environmental experiment on the ability of aircraft contrails to affect the energy coming into and out of the Earth at that location," MacKenzie said.

By looking at World War Two records, the researchers were able to look at a time when commercial and civilian air traffic was rare. In East Anglia, the Midlands and the West Country, where many of the bombing raids were launched, there were almost no other airplanes.

In 1943 the United States began basing bombing raids out of England, and there was a tremendous increase in the amount of air traffic in specific and well recorded areas. That made distinguishing airplane-influenced climate data more clearly discernible from unaffected nearby climatic conditions.

For example, on May 11, 1944, a massive number of planes flew through an otherwise clear sky in south east England. A total of 1444 aircraft were recorded. The area they flew over stayed an average .8 degrees Celsius (1.44 degrees F) cooler than surrounding areas from about 7 a.m. to 1 p.m.

"This is tantalising evidence that Second World War bombing raids can be used to help us understand processes affecting contemporary climate," concluded MacKenzie. "By looking back at a time when aviation took place almost entirely in concentrated batches for military purposes, it is easier to separate the aircraft-induced factors from all the other things that affect climate."

http://news.discovery.com/earth/ww2-air-raids-affected-the-weather-110710.html

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X-15  posted on  2012-10-08   21:45:41 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: farmfriend (#0)

I think I seen this shown on RTÉ, if the clip is taken from "Chemical Contrails", it was full of disinfo, the usual dishonest "debunking" going on, and they misrepresented the "theory" itself claiming chemtrails cover up the effects of AGW.

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irishthatcherite  posted on  2012-10-09   11:46:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: farmfriend (#6)

I often hear and see it said that contrails do not persist in the atmosphere, they dissipate right away. Supposedly only chemtrails last. I would take contrails lasting longer as a sign of climate change before I believe it was chemtrails. this is not to say chemtrails don't exist though I'm still up in the air on that one. The upper atmosphere is cooling and this would cause ice crystals to persist longer than has been noted in previous decades.

It could be made up, I am increasingly seeing that the Alternative Media contains as much disinfo as the Mainstream Media. One problem that persists in my head is one of logistics. How many planes do they need rigged with sprayers to cover both North America and Europe (the two continents where the vast majority of spraying allegedly takes places) every single day, or at least most days?

OTOH, we are experiencing a lot of cloudy weather in Ireland in recent years, particularly this year. Sunny days are few and far between, as for perfectly cloudless days... I think maybe 2 days at most this year.

Facebook's Timeline means people can follow me chronologically having a meltdown over the stupid fucking Timeline!!

irishthatcherite  posted on  2012-10-09   11:55:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: All (#11)

Something is wrong though, as recently as the 80s people here spoke of how you drove on a summer's night, your windscreen would be coated with flies (I think I even remember that as a young boy), that is all gone now, you would be lucky to have one fly stuck to your windscreen driving on a summer night. lol

Facebook's Timeline means people can follow me chronologically having a meltdown over the stupid fucking Timeline!!

irishthatcherite  posted on  2012-10-09   12:00:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: irishthatcherite (#11)

It could be made up, I am increasingly seeing that the Alternative Media contains as much disinfo as the Mainstream Media. One problem that persists in my head is one of logistics. How many planes do they need rigged with sprayers to cover both North America and Europe (the two continents where the vast majority of spraying allegedly takes places) every single day, or at least most days

Be quiet. Eat your pablum. Stop thinking.

Chemtrails over the Poles are for sterilizing the Polar Bears and the Penguins.

Thats a fact.

Carry on.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-10-09   12:14:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Cynicom (#13)

Stop thinking.

Someone on this planet has to do it.. lol ;)

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irishthatcherite  posted on  2012-10-09   12:40:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Cynicom, irishthatcherite (#13)

Be quiet. Eat your pablum. Stop thinking.

LOL


Does anyone honestly believe that the global elites whose wealth and power depend on manipulation of the global chess board would leave something like the Presidency up to chance?

farmfriend  posted on  2012-10-09   16:25:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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