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Title: DPS helicopter opens fire during chase; 2 (illegal invaders) dead
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The Monitor
URL Source: http://www.themonitor.com/news/loca ... 01-11e2-9e9f-001a4bcf6878.html
Published: Oct 25, 2012
Author: Jacqueline Armendariz and Ildefonso Orti
Post Date: 2012-10-26 18:23:03 by X-15
Keywords: None
Views: 314
Comments: 22
NEAR LA JOYA — A Texas Department of Public Safety sharpshooter opened fire on an evading vehicle loaded with suspected illegal immigrants, leaving at least two people dead, sources familiar with the investigation said. DPS spokeswoman Katherine Cesinger confirmed a DPS officer opened fire during the pursuit north of La Joya, but had no information as to whether the officer shot anyone inside the evading vehicle. “We do not want to speculate on any other issues at this time and have no further information,” Cesinger said in the email. However, law enforcement sources said troopers found three people shot inside once the smuggler’s vehicle stopped along Farm-to-Market Road 2221 near Mile 7 Road. Two of the suspected illegal immigrants died from their injuries, they said. “This is going to get big really, really fast,” a local law enforcement official said of the DPS incident. “You have a law enforcement official shooting at an unarmed alien. This is not an excuse for deadly force.” Cesinger confirmed two people were dead. She said a third person was sent to an area hospital for treatment, while six others were arrested. When asked if he was aware of two illegal aliens being shot by DPS in Hidalgo County, DPS Director Steven McCraw responded: “Of course I am aware of this situation.” He declined to comment further and directed further contact to the DPS press office. He also said he was currently out of the state. Authorities were still searching for others who fled the scene on Thursday night, Cesinger said. The pursuit began after a Texas Parks and Wildlife Department game warden tried to pull over a vehicle suspected of smuggling immigrants Thursday afternoon along FM 2221. A DPS helicopter was called in to assist in the pursuit and a sharpshooter opened fire on the evading vehicle — a policy permitted by the agency, two law enforcement sources not authorized to comment on the investigation said. DPS troopers are the only law enforcement in the Rio Grande Valley region permitted to open fire during chases. Various agencies — Border Patrol, La Joya police, Hidalgo County Sheriff’s Office — were present at the desolate, rural area alongside DPS well into the night. Authorities set up blockades at least a mile out from the scene. After dark, a red pickup truck with no apparent damage — except a blown, rear driver’s-side tire — was towed away from the area where police were working. The Texas Rangers are investigating the incident.
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#1. To: X-15, *The Border* (#0)
Two less illegal alien invaders for Obama or Romney to give amnesty to. Two men from Guatemala died Thursday when a Department of Public Safety helicopter opened fire on a red pickup suspected of smuggling illegal immigrants. A third person was hospitalized and six were arrested in the latest in a string of smuggling attempts that turned deadly while packed vehicles flee from state or federal authorities. Texas Department of Public Safety spokesman Tom Vinger said the chase began when Texas Parks and Wildlife game wardens attempted to pull over the truck they thought was carrying drugs. When the driver did not stop, the wardens called DPS for assistance. “During the pursuit, the vehicle appeared to have a typical ‘covered' drug load in the bed of the truck,” Vinger said. “DPS aircraft joined the pursuit of the suspected drug load, which was travelling at reckless speeds, endangering the public. A DPS trooper discharged his firearm from the helicopter to disable the vehicle.” No drugs were found in the truck. ... Noooo fuck that, they are fucking lying trash. Those pieces of shit are sniping from helicopters!!! Against people that have not fired first. THE COPS ENDANGERED THE PUBLIC FIRING AT IT FROM THE AIR! REAL MEN OF HONOUR would of just followed them and picked them up at a safer time. They had a helicopter. I'm sure it would of never lost sight of the truck.. if it did use the god damn satellites and patriot act taps. God knows this worthless vile scum trash passing it self off as law enforcement has all of the tools at its disposal to do a much better job. But No! Instead they are too lazy and too impatient and all to ready to risk public lives and public safety in the glorious name of law enforcement. Never mind INNOCENT BEFORE PROVEN GUILTY. And thank god they were all illegal with no rights in the first place. Might as well excuse the officers of murder this time since it was just some dirty illegals. Fucking worthless I swear. The fucking public is not a war zone! The Authorities do not shoot at the public from helicopters unless the public has fired upon them first. Self defence is self defence. This was running down a few Mexicans with the best toys tax dollars could provide. it is shit. ____________________________________________________________ . . . The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself, Action!!!
Really ??? Actions speak louder than inflated principles. I agree with your position - it's just not playing out that way anymore. We're in a freakin police state. "Bankers" - Kill em all and let Satan sort em out" !!!
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No, fuck them: DPS aircraft joined the pursuit of the suspected drug load, which was travelling at reckless speeds, endangering the public What if those invaders plowed into a car of white Texans and killed them?? Happens all the time, you've read the after-reports. Haven't you had enough death from the invaders?? You run from the Texas Highway Patrol and they WILL shoot your happy ass. www.mysanantonio.com/news...-on-suspected-3985660.php
A red pick up truck is moved from the scene of a incident after a chase between law enforcement and suspected human smugglers on 7 mile road north of La Joya, Texas, Thursday, Oct. 25, 2012. Texas Department of Public Safety sharpshooter opened fire on an evading vehicle loaded with suspected illegal immigrants, leaving at least two people dead, sources familiar with the investigation said.
(AP Photo/The Monitor, Joel Martinez)
LA JOYA — Skid marks and a patch of dried blood in the gravel of a desolate country road Friday were about the only signs left of a deadly pursuit that happened here. 
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#2. To: hondo68 (#1)
(Edited)
DPS aircraft joined the pursuit of the suspected drug load, which was travelling at reckless speeds, endangering the public
#3. To: titorite (#2)
The fucking public is not a war zone! The Authorities do not shoot at the public from helicopters unless the public has fired upon them first.
#4. To: X-15, *libertarians*, *Shooters*, *Jack-Booted Thugs* (#0)
#5. To: X-15 (#0)
2 (illegal invaders) dead
#6. To: titorite (#2)
-Alex Kurtagic
#7. To: X-15, legals, 4 (#6)
good resource -
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#8. To: Lod (#7) (Edited)
From the very first story at that link: "The driver and passenger of the SUV that caused the accident fled the scene and haven't been found." The DPS/Texas Rangers, hell even the TPWD, are virtually defending the border by themselves, FedGov doesn't give a shit. From another forum: "John, by the time the DPS puts a helicopter in the air with a sharpshooter to STOP a fleeing vehicle there is more going on than a traffic stop. I still don't know if everyone fully (or even partially) understands the magnitude of organization and generational mindset that is driving this invasion. Think of how big an appetite the US has for Marijuana and Cocaine! That's how big this is! Forget the illegals, they are a diversion. While the DPS et al, are wrapped up chasing the trucks with illegals semi loads of contraband flooded in. So they're shooting tires, it won't stop, next they'll shoot drivers. Then The BGs [bad guys] will put a 14 yr old girl in the driver's seat with a gun in her ribs to drive. Then they'll shoot them all, and they'll shoot back...... and on and on and on.. They will escalate every time we do. They already shoot up teenagers at parties, and chop off the heads of every cop they can get their hands on in Mexico now. The only thing that separates them from us is a muddy little creek and out in NM and AZ, not even that! You guys that have been to the Middle East or Vietnam and have experienced the way those seeking or maintaining power will use any means to advance their agendas (IEDs, kid sappers, whatever)...... well, that's what is just south of the US border. I'm saying "just south of the US border" with the utmost of naive optimism because the reality of it is that it is already here. The Tejano population of Texas is being very quiet on this subject when you'd think they would be decrying the whole thing. They know what's coming and they don't like it either but they know what it is."
-Alex Kurtagic
#9. To: All (#0)
DPS: Policy allowed troopers to fire on suspected smuggler “During the pursuit, the vehicle appeared to have a typical ‘covered' drug load in the bed of the truck,” Vinger said. “DPS aircraft joined the pursuit of the suspected drug load, which was traveling at reckless speeds, endangering the public. A DPS trooper discharged his firearm from the helicopter to disable the vehicle.” In an interview this summer, DPS Director Steve McCraw said it is imperative to protect troopers on the ground when patrolling the border. “That's what our aerial assets are doing, and we need to protect those aerial assets and in doing so, we put a sniper on those,” he said of armed helicopter agents. “And we're really not apologetic about it. We've got an obligation to protect our men and women when we're trying to protect Texas.”... Almost every DPS helicopter on patrol is manned by a tactical flight officer, who operates surveillance equipment and is trained to use the AR-10 rifle stored in the chopper. According to DPS policy, lethal force is can be used when the officer or someone else is at “substantial risk of death or bodily injury.” Troopers can fire at vehicles when deadly force is justified or it's “for the sole purpose and intent of disabling a vehicle.”... Hidalgo County consistently has more highway patrol pursuits than any other in Texas, according to data from DPS. Smugglers along the border often use blocking vehicles and homemade road spikes to evade pursuit. In response, DPS has hired more troopers, deployed more helicopters and purchased high-speed boats equipped with machine guns. “We can't give up swaths of land to organized thugs and criminals,” DPS Director McCraw said recently. “It doesn't matter if it's a remote area or if it's a highly urban area.” He said agents apply the same principles regarding use of force for land, air or water operations. “Some of these pursuits, they're desperate, they don't really care if they run over innocent citizens, bystanders, they have no qualms,” he said. “At the end of the day they're concerned about getting back to the river or protecting their drug load or, in some cases, their human trafficking load.” www.mysanantonio.com/news...-Policy-allowed-troopers- to-fire-on-suspected-3985660.php
-Alex Kurtagic
#10. To: X-15 (#6) (Edited)
No X15 I don't care about the Texan Mexicans. The Texan mexicans have always been good people to me. Californian mexicans not as much... Those mexicans suck dick. IF you hung out with more mexicans you might be aware of the rift between the californians and the texans. That said that is how I feel about the racial aspect. I am not raciest. AS FOR THE POLICE SHOOTING AT YOU IF YOU RUN!!!! And you being cool with that X15 Well you just signed on to their NWO program. It doesn't matter who you are ok with the police shooting at once it is ok to shoot at one of us it is ok to shoot at all of us. And this story is not the first time the police have use illegal runners as target practice .... and thats sick ...that is cold blood murder. One human runs, offers no violent resistance, gets shoot in the back. I am not cool with a murderer of men doing that job, a regular cain slaying the fuck outta all he can. I'm not sure you get it. The threat is not from mexico. We don't need to be shooting at unarmmed illegals. The enemies are not from mexico. The mexicans did not open up- gitmo or pass the patriot act. The mexicans did not invade Libya nor are they arming and destabilizing Syria. THE ENEMY IS WITHIN! If you can't focus on that then you're not focusing on the true evil .
____________________________________________________________ . . . The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself, Action!!!
#11. To: titorite (#10) (Edited)
The enemies are not from mexico. That's a big heaping, steaming load of bullshit right there. Get a fucking clue, we're tired of the crime from the goddamned illegal mexicons invading our state. They ARE a real and present danger to our citizens. I put the lives of Texans ahead of the lives of invading mexicons. I don't live in fear of the DPS because I don't run from them or smuggle drugs or illegal mexicons. The threat is not from mexico.
-Alex Kurtagic
#12. To: X-15 (#9)
If this were a war zone I would agree. If this were Korea or Vietnam or Afghanistan I could understand. This is south Texas. I can not understand. Steve McCraw needs to go NOW RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!!!! Thank God that helicopter did no encounter sudden turbulence causing the sniper to misfire through no fault of his own into his fellow troopers. THANK GOD THE PEOPLE THEY WERE SHOOTING AT DID NOT HAVE GUNS OF THEIR OWN TO FIRE BACK AT THE HELICOPTER! In fact they fired no shots at police. Putting a sniper on a chopper is about killing folks not protecting folks. What happens when they get it wrong? What happens when they kill US citizens that have not fired upon them for the high crime of running away? Steve McCraw ..... Bro needs to resign like yesterday before the filth bag gets the chance to endanger more of us. “That's what our aerial assets are doing, and we need to protect those aerial assets and in doing so, we put a sniper on those,”
____________________________________________________________ . . . The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself, Action!!!
#13. To: X-15 (#11) (Edited)
Like I said X15, I don't have a problem with the mexicans. The issue is an invented issue. Immigration is what made our nation strong... curbbing immigration only harms us as a nation. Illegal immigration is a term or idea... not our enenmy. Our enenmy is those Israeli owned Congressmen
____________________________________________________________ . . . The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself, Action!!!
#14. To: titorite (#12)
Along the border IS a war zone. Believe it. I thank God that the DPS shot the shit out of that truck and prevented them from slamming into an innocent Texas family. When those mexicons get "flee!" in their blood, they'll run over their own mothers. I have NO sympathy for them, they brought on all their own misery by not pulling over for a game warden.
-Alex Kurtagic
#15. To: titorite (#13)
Separate issue, not relevant. We ARE being invaded and if it were up to me I'd station two U.S. Army infantrymen in a pup tent every 100yds from the Gulf of Mexico to the Pacific Ocean and give them a case of ammo and tell them to shoot anybody who comes across that border. The bullshit would stop real quick. Our enenmy is those Israeli owned Congressmen
-Alex Kurtagic
#16. To: X-15 (#15)
Negative . It is the only issue. Their is nothing else by comparison. And to be frank, I don't even care about those fucking israelis so much as much as I care about the original flaws that allowed them to slither their agents into our foundation. Congress , our government, our life. Our founders did not concern themselves with the woes of illegal immigration. They did not have a welfare socialist fascist government. Fix the problem at it's core and you can fix almost every problem. Separate issue, not relevant.
____________________________________________________________ . . . The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself, Action!!!
#17. To: titorite (#16)
Tell that to the families of American's who've been murdered by illegal mexicons or had their little girls kidnapped and raped by illegal mexicons and you'll be lucky to walk away from the ass-whooping you bring upon yourself. You need to pick the day and place of your battles and the invasion from mexico is every bit as serious as the infiltration of FedGov/education/finance by the kikenvermin. There's a shooting war on the border in Texas, 24/7/365, and it's not being reported by the MSM, this one was the exception. It is the only issue.
-Alex Kurtagic
#18. To: X-15 (#17)
Man, when I lived in Uvalde the only people that did the shooting were the police. You say the MSM ain't reporting it? I don't know what stations you watch but I see the fear mongering over it all the time on the nightly news. There's a shooting war on the border in Texas, 24/7/365, and it's not being reported by the MSM, this one was the exception.
____________________________________________________________ . . . The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself, Action!!!
#19. To: X-15 (#9)
Yeah - TX fucked up when we re-joined the lame, the joke, the ziocontrolled farce, that is the US.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#20. To: X-15 (#15)
Make it 50yds just to be sure. If we brought everyone home, we could have it every two yards. End of problem. We ARE being invaded and if it were up to me I'd station two U.S. Army infantrymen in a pup tent every 100yds from the Gulf of Mexico to the Pacific Ocean and give them a case of ammo and tell them to shoot anybody who comes across that border. The bullshit would stop real quick.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#21. To: Lod (#20)
End of problem. That's it right there. All the troops in the various sandboxes/Europe/Asia could stop this nonsense in a heartbeat once deployed on the border. If we brought everyone home, we could have it every two yards.
-Alex Kurtagic
#22. To: X-15, titorite, 4 (#21)
I don't believe any of this will happen soon, but; if that were done, and the states would then deny benefits of any type to non-citizens, we could begin to get a handle on this mess. But it's not gonna happen. imo Prep-up friends, get ready for the showdown. All the troops in the various sandboxes/Europe/Asia could stop this nonsense in a heartbeat once deployed on the border.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
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