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Title: Secretary of state: Voting monitors face arrest in Iowa
Source: http://globegazette.com
URL Source: http://globegazette.com/news/local/ ... e8-11e2-9133-001a4bcf887a.html
Published: Oct 31, 2012
Author: Mike Wiser
Post Date: 2012-10-31 14:12:51 by freepatriot32
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DES MOINES — Iowa Secretary of State Matt Schultz warned a group of international voting monitors that they face arrest if they monitor polling locations in Iowa next week.

“My office met with two delegation representatives last week to discuss Iowa’s election process, and it was explained to them that they are not permitted at the polls,” Schultz said in a statement released Tuesday. “Iowa law is very specific about who is permitted at polling places, and there is no exception for members of this group.”

The Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe plans to send observers from its Office for Democratic Institutions to Iowa and other states. According to the group’s website, members have been meeting with election officials and political party workers since last month to discuss their observation plans in the United States.

Attempts to reach Thomas Rymer, spokesman for the Office of Democratic Institutions, were not successful Tuesday.

Schultz said he supports the efforts of other nations to learn about the U.S. election process, but pointed to a statute in Iowa code that limits the number of people at a particular polling place. That section of code, with few exceptions, allows poll watchers from political parties, news media and campaigns to be at polling locations.

Schultz spokesman Chad Olsen said the Secretary of State’s Office will leave it up to local county officials how to handle outside observers.

“But if they do show up at a polling location, because they are not allowed to do so under Iowa law, local elections officials can request that they be removed if they refuse to do so. That could be the poll workers at the site, or the county auditor or county attorney,” Olsen wrote in an email.

“They violate the statute just by showing up and maintaining a presence within 300 feet of a polling location. They are aware of the statute, and did indicate at the meeting last week that they had no intention of violating Iowa law, but then apparently were seeking permission from county auditors to do so anyway.”

Tim Albrecht, spokesman for Gov. Terry Branstad, said the governor agrees with the secretary of state.

“The governor believes Iowa Code should be followed, and supports Matt Schultz’s efforts to uphold the law,” Albrecht wrote in an email.

Mike Wiser reports from the Globe Gazette Des Moines Bureau.


related Kline: Precinct workers should use good judgment

By JOHN SKIPPER MASON CITY —Cerro Gordo County Auditor Ken Kline said Tuesday it is illegal to have observers such as U.N. poll watchers at polling places.

“Iowa Code Sections 49.104 and 49.105 speak to this,” he said. “They clearly prohibit such observers at the polling place and authorize and require the precinct officials to order the arrest of such a person.”

Kline said he would ask the precinct officials to use good judgment in handling a situation like this by telling any person not authorized to be there that they need to leave.

“If the person refused, then we would administer the law appropriately,” said Kline.

“If we had international observers in Cerro Gordo County, I would discourage them from observing an actual polling place, and instead would offer the option of simulating and/or describing the operations at a polling place,” he said. Subscribe to *libertarians*

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#3. To: freepatriot32 (#0)

Voting monitors face arrest in Iowa

I don't see it happening. If the monitors have the proper credentials, they are within their right to observe the election.

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-10-31   16:53:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: BTP Holdings (#3)

"Schultz said he supports the efforts of other nations to learn about the U.S. election process, but pointed to a statute in Iowa code that limits the number of people at a particular polling place. That section of code, with few exceptions, allows poll watchers from political parties, news media and campaigns to be at polling locations."

How would a group of foreigners from Europe fit into those parameters?

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-10-31   18:25:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: James Deffenbach (#4)

Why were these euros even let into the country?

jimmuh caarter doesn't need to be in their countries, and they damn sure don't need to be here.

Besides, the electronic, fake, tallies will be done mainly in Spain, on the plain.

Lod  posted on  2012-10-31   19:21:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Lod (#6)

According to this site:

http://iipdigital.usembassy.gov/st/english/article/2012/10/20121026138004.html#a xzz2AvHarwh5

"Since 2002, the United States has invited members of the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) to do the job. It is a commitment that the United States has made as a participating OSCE country."

So, since we're a participating member of the OSCE, we allow them to monitor our elections. Just to be sure, OSCE stands for "Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe". So it makes perfect sense for us to be a member, just like those who want Georgia (the country) to be a member of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. Now, I don't profess to understand why we'd be a member, but our leaders, starting in 2002 (it's bipartisan) thought we should have international monitors here.

Granted, since we meddle in elections worldwide, and we send NGOs aligned to the two NED organizations to monitor or interfere with elections, it's probably one of those "sauce for the goose" type of things.

I've often thought we should invite adversarial countries that have experience rigging elections to monitor ours, because they'd know cheating when they see it, and wouldn't have any aversion to proclaiming it loudly.

historian1944  posted on  2012-10-31   19:43:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: historian1944 (#8)

Thanks for that nwo clarification on our status.

Jesus, US suck.

Lod  posted on  2012-10-31   19:59:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#11. To: Lod (#10)

Jesus, US suck.

When the drone strikes start here it will be official.

Esso  posted on  2012-10-31 20:22:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Lod (#10)

Besides the relative lack of control the citizens of the US have over our own government, the interesting thing with this situation is why it's suddenly being publicized now. Various states have evidently previously refused to allow the OSCE monitors access. This is from their 2004 report (pg. 3):

"However, in other states, access was not possible or was limited. This was a result of state law, either because international observers were not included in the statutory categories of persons permitted to be in polling places, or because the lack of reference to international observers in state law was deemed to constitute an obstacle to their presence in polling places. Lack of observer access to the election process, both international and domestic, including at polling station level, is contrary to OSCE commitments, and limited the possibility of the OSCE EOM to comment more fully on the election process."

http://www.osce.org/odihr/elections/usa/14028

So, this obviously isn't the first time this has happened to them. Why has the press suddenly decided to emphasize this?

Overall, the effect the OSCE monitors have had on our elections has been negligible, and it's unlikely until recently that many knew they were even here.

Here's the 2008 report.

http://www.osce.org/odihr/elections/usa/36504

There is one interesting recommendation they give in the report:

"States should consider decreasing the number of required signatures for nomination of independent or third-party candidates down to a maximum of one per cent of the number of registered voters in a given electoral district, in line with good electoral practice."

That might actually start to destroy the two party cartel we currently suffer under.

I don't believe that these observers should be here. I also don't believe we should be a member of the OSCE. But, at the same time, we inflict this and much worse on other countries through the auspices of various NGOs, including the Democractic and Republican organizations run under the auspices of the National Endownment for Democracy. Perhaps if we get the same policies and procedures inflicted upon us, we would demand these actions stop worldwide, and perhaps start to understand why other countries despise us.

That presupposes that we have some control over our own government, which is probably an inaccurate assumption on my part.

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