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Title: Voting for a Third Party Candidate Is NOT a Wasted Vote
Source: Washington's Blog
URL Source: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012 ... e-is-not-wasting-our-vote.html
Published: Nov 2, 2012
Author: WashingtonsBlog
Post Date: 2012-11-02 16:44:43 by X-15
Keywords: None
Views: 436
Comments: 24

Preface: Many Americans are waking up to the fact that the Republican and Democratic candidates are incredibly similar.

Many people are starting to realize that Obama and Romney are virtually indistinguishable on war, jobs, freedoms and favoring fatcats instead of the little guy.

Judge Napolitano explained today why voting for a third party is not wasting one’s vote:

Can one morally vote for the lesser of two evils? In a word, no. A basic principle of Judeo-Christian teaching and of the natural law to which the country was married by the Declaration of Independence is that one may not knowingly do evil that good may come of it.

So, is a vote for [a third party] or no vote at all wasted? I reject the idea that a principled vote is wasted. Your vote is yours, and so long as your vote is consistent with your conscience, it is impossible to waste your vote.

On the other hand, even a small step toward the free market and away from … central economic planning would be at least a small improvement for every American’s freedom. A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.

The liberal former chief aide to progressive Congressman Alan Grayson – Matt Stoller – agrees. After demonstrating how similar Obama and Romney are on most major issues, Stoller concludes:

I think it’s worth voting for a third party candidate, and I’ll explain why below.

There are only five or six states that matter in this election; in the other 44 or 45, your vote on the presidential level doesn’t matter. It is as decorative as a vote for an “American Idol contestant.” So, unless you are in one of the few swing states that matters, a vote for Obama is simply an unabashed endorsement of his policies. But if you are in a swing state, then the question is, what should you do?

The people themselves, what they believe and what they don’t, can constrain political leaders. And under Obama, because there is now no one making the anti-torture argument, Americans have become more tolerant of torture, drones, war and authoritarianism in general. The case against Obama is that the people themselves will be better citizens under a Romney administration, distrusting him and placing constraints on his behavior the way they won’t on Obama. As a candidate, Obama promised a whole slew of civil liberties protections, lying the whole time. Obama has successfully organized the left part of the Democratic Party into a force that had rhetorically opposed war and civil liberties violations, but now cheerleads a weakened America …. We must fight this thuggish political culture Bush popularized, and Obama solidified in place.

But can a third-party candidate win? No. So what is the point of voting at all, or voting for a third-party candidate? My answer is that this election is, first and foremost, practice for crisis moments. Elections are just one small part of how social justice change can happen. The best moment for change is actually a crisis, where there is actually policy leverage. … Saying no to evil in 2012 will help us understand who is willing to say no to evil when it really matters. And when you have power during a crisis, there’s no end to the amount of good you can do.

How do we drive large-scale change during moments of crisis? How do we use this election to do so? Well, voting third party or even just honestly portraying Obama’s policy architecture is a good way to identify to ourselves and each other who actually has the integrity to not cave to bullying…. We need to put ourselves into the position to be able to run the government.

After all, if a political revolution came tomorrow, could those who believe in social justice and climate change actually govern?

[If we had had more courage, we could have] reorganized our politics. Instead the oligarchs took control, because we weren’t willing to face them down when we needed to show courage. So now we have the worst of all worlds, an inevitably worse crisis and an even more authoritarian structure of governance.

The reason to advocate for a third-party candidate is to build the civic muscles willing to say no to the establishment in a crisis moment we all know is coming. Right now, the liberal establishment is teaching its people that letting malevolent political elites do what they want is not only the right path, it is the only path. Anything other than that is dubbed an affront to common decency. Just telling the truth is considered beyond rude.

We can do this. And the moments to let us make the changes we need are coming. There is endless good we can do, if enough of us are willing to show the courage that exists within every human being instead of the malevolence and desire for conformity that also exists within every heart.

Systems that can’t go on, don’t. The political elites, as much as they kick the can down the road, know this. The question we need to ask ourselves is, do we?

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#6. To: X-15 (#0)

Voting for a Third Party Candidate Is NOT a Wasted Vote

My thoughts exactly. NOT voting is giving the GOP and democrats the signal that people don't care either way who wins.

By voting for a decent third party candidate, it tells them not only do you not want to vote for either one of the "two party system" candidates, you have taken a stand and voted for someone who has principles.

If ENOUGH people could do that, there'd be a strong chance that over time, a third party WOULD be viable and COULD win an election.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-11-02   17:44:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: FormerLurker (#6)

If ENOUGH people could do that, there'd be a strong chance that over time, a third party WOULD be viable and COULD win an election.

We have to understand that there will be 130 MILLION citizens out there that will vote KNOWING THERE ARE TWO PARTIES TO VOTE FOR.

It is not the lazy shiftless idiots that do not vote that are killing us, IT IS THOSE THAT DO THEIR PATRIOTIC DUTY, 130 million strong that are putting us in chains.

There are 90 million of us that do not vote, indeed we are stupid, shiftless, ignorant or whatever, BUT IT IS...NOT... US THAT HAVE KEPT THIS GOVERNMENT IN CONTROL.

Americans need to do the math, majority rules.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-11-02   18:09:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Cynicom (#8)

I cannot help 130M morons to get off their mainly uninformed asses and vote.

You know better.

Lod  posted on  2012-11-02   19:05:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Lod (#13)

I cannot help 130M morons to get off their mainly uninformed asses and vote.

Thats right, majority rules.

The prior majority wanted to keep the King, it took the MINORITY to bring down the system.

If it happens again, it will be the FEW that do it, the majority will do NOTHING. They will not even desist from supporting and legitimizing our owners.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-11-02   19:38:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Cynicom (#16)

Come'on.

Suck up and sack up for one more rodeo, while you can. Have some fun.

GaryJohnson2012.com - Live Free

At least lettem know that you're aware of the concept.

Lod  posted on  2012-11-02   20:48:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Lod (#17)

No more band wagons, no last rodeo, no more Pied Pipers, no more slick politicians of any stripe.

Will listen to a man of action, one that talks the talk, walks the walk, a man that names names of the criminals and PUSHES THE ESTABLISHMENT TO THE WALL, CALLING FOR ACTION.

In 1939/40 we had such men, now we have none. Everyone wants to play nice, play within the system. That wont work.

There are no risk takers, vote, walk civilly to the gallows.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-11-02   21:01:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Cynicom (#18)

A vote for Gary Johnson is a free poke in the eye to the demoflakrudicans.

Don't cost nothin...

Dakmar  posted on  2012-11-02   21:25:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Dakmar (#20)

Don't cost nothin...

True and not wasted but still is participation in a process that is stacked in the dealers favor.

Akin to playing poker when you know the dealer is using marked cards.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-11-02   22:11:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Cynicom (#21) (Edited)

Upon further reflection, casting a ballot in any US election probably costs taxpayers somewhere in the neighborhood of $700 (edit: per vote), based upon every other government statistic I've seen since 1983. In a way, I'm glad I never got picked up off the streets and fed an eggamuffin and told who to vote for.

Dakmar  posted on  2012-11-02   22:19:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Dakmar (#22)

If one stops to reflect upon the system, it is apparent that there is no choice when voting for one of two people. The system has been flawed from day one. The people with money and power realized that fact and took advantage of it.

The fact remains, if you participate in the system, you become part of it.

Ron Paul chose to remain within the system twice, this time had he gone third party, he would have exceeded Perot.

We have no voice, no leader and the majority go with the system.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-11-02   22:31:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#24. To: Cynicom (#23)

So you no longer hate white people? Cool!!!

Dakmar  posted on  2012-11-02 22:43:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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