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Title: Voting for a Third Party Candidate Is NOT a Wasted Vote
Source: Washington's Blog
URL Source: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012 ... e-is-not-wasting-our-vote.html
Published: Nov 2, 2012
Author: WashingtonsBlog
Post Date: 2012-11-02 16:44:43 by X-15
Keywords: None
Views: 433
Comments: 24

Preface: Many Americans are waking up to the fact that the Republican and Democratic candidates are incredibly similar.

Many people are starting to realize that Obama and Romney are virtually indistinguishable on war, jobs, freedoms and favoring fatcats instead of the little guy.

Judge Napolitano explained today why voting for a third party is not wasting one’s vote:

Can one morally vote for the lesser of two evils? In a word, no. A basic principle of Judeo-Christian teaching and of the natural law to which the country was married by the Declaration of Independence is that one may not knowingly do evil that good may come of it.

So, is a vote for [a third party] or no vote at all wasted? I reject the idea that a principled vote is wasted. Your vote is yours, and so long as your vote is consistent with your conscience, it is impossible to waste your vote.

On the other hand, even a small step toward the free market and away from … central economic planning would be at least a small improvement for every American’s freedom. A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.

The liberal former chief aide to progressive Congressman Alan Grayson – Matt Stoller – agrees. After demonstrating how similar Obama and Romney are on most major issues, Stoller concludes:

I think it’s worth voting for a third party candidate, and I’ll explain why below.

There are only five or six states that matter in this election; in the other 44 or 45, your vote on the presidential level doesn’t matter. It is as decorative as a vote for an “American Idol contestant.” So, unless you are in one of the few swing states that matters, a vote for Obama is simply an unabashed endorsement of his policies. But if you are in a swing state, then the question is, what should you do?

The people themselves, what they believe and what they don’t, can constrain political leaders. And under Obama, because there is now no one making the anti-torture argument, Americans have become more tolerant of torture, drones, war and authoritarianism in general. The case against Obama is that the people themselves will be better citizens under a Romney administration, distrusting him and placing constraints on his behavior the way they won’t on Obama. As a candidate, Obama promised a whole slew of civil liberties protections, lying the whole time. Obama has successfully organized the left part of the Democratic Party into a force that had rhetorically opposed war and civil liberties violations, but now cheerleads a weakened America …. We must fight this thuggish political culture Bush popularized, and Obama solidified in place.

But can a third-party candidate win? No. So what is the point of voting at all, or voting for a third-party candidate? My answer is that this election is, first and foremost, practice for crisis moments. Elections are just one small part of how social justice change can happen. The best moment for change is actually a crisis, where there is actually policy leverage. … Saying no to evil in 2012 will help us understand who is willing to say no to evil when it really matters. And when you have power during a crisis, there’s no end to the amount of good you can do.

How do we drive large-scale change during moments of crisis? How do we use this election to do so? Well, voting third party or even just honestly portraying Obama’s policy architecture is a good way to identify to ourselves and each other who actually has the integrity to not cave to bullying…. We need to put ourselves into the position to be able to run the government.

After all, if a political revolution came tomorrow, could those who believe in social justice and climate change actually govern?

[If we had had more courage, we could have] reorganized our politics. Instead the oligarchs took control, because we weren’t willing to face them down when we needed to show courage. So now we have the worst of all worlds, an inevitably worse crisis and an even more authoritarian structure of governance.

The reason to advocate for a third-party candidate is to build the civic muscles willing to say no to the establishment in a crisis moment we all know is coming. Right now, the liberal establishment is teaching its people that letting malevolent political elites do what they want is not only the right path, it is the only path. Anything other than that is dubbed an affront to common decency. Just telling the truth is considered beyond rude.

We can do this. And the moments to let us make the changes we need are coming. There is endless good we can do, if enough of us are willing to show the courage that exists within every human being instead of the malevolence and desire for conformity that also exists within every heart.

Systems that can’t go on, don’t. The political elites, as much as they kick the can down the road, know this. The question we need to ask ourselves is, do we?

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#6. To: X-15 (#0)

Voting for a Third Party Candidate Is NOT a Wasted Vote

My thoughts exactly. NOT voting is giving the GOP and democrats the signal that people don't care either way who wins.

By voting for a decent third party candidate, it tells them not only do you not want to vote for either one of the "two party system" candidates, you have taken a stand and voted for someone who has principles.

If ENOUGH people could do that, there'd be a strong chance that over time, a third party WOULD be viable and COULD win an election.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-11-02   17:44:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: FormerLurker (#6)

If ENOUGH people could do that, there'd be a strong chance that over time, a third party WOULD be viable and COULD win an election.

We have to understand that there will be 130 MILLION citizens out there that will vote KNOWING THERE ARE TWO PARTIES TO VOTE FOR.

It is not the lazy shiftless idiots that do not vote that are killing us, IT IS THOSE THAT DO THEIR PATRIOTIC DUTY, 130 million strong that are putting us in chains.

There are 90 million of us that do not vote, indeed we are stupid, shiftless, ignorant or whatever, BUT IT IS...NOT... US THAT HAVE KEPT THIS GOVERNMENT IN CONTROL.

Americans need to do the math, majority rules.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-11-02   18:09:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Cynicom (#8)

Americans need to do the math, majority rules.

I've always prefered doing the right thing instead of just "going with the flow".

At least I can in good conscience know that I tried.

It IS quite sad that our nation has become a land of idiots and crooks. People in Europe and Asia are more educated, better informed, and don't sit on their hands complaining about how awful things are.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-11-02   18:21:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#10. To: FormerLurker (#9)

It IS quite sad that our nation has become a land of idiots and crooks. People in Europe and Asia are more educated, better informed, and don't sit on their hands complaining about how awful things are.

The huge majority sat on their hands during the first revolution, roughly 23 per cent did the fighting and dying.

This time around perhaps 140 million Americans will find some reason FOR voting, FOR LEGITIMIZING THIS CORRUPT SYSTEM THAT IS PUTTING US IN CHAINS.

The men that own the system must have a good laugh every four years because the programmed masses hurry to the polls and do their duty.

I did, no more.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-11-02 18:34:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: FormerLurker (#9)

It IS quite sad that our nation has become a land of idiots and crooks. People in Europe and Asia are more educated, better informed, and don't sit on their hands complaining about how awful things are.

Yeah, in Europe you have a bunch of white folks that have some sense of cultural identity, social solidarity and political awareness. However, the devious political class that rules them is pretty crafty and manages to keep them all tied up in knots.

For example, the Belgians would like to hang the pedophile Eurocrats that are running that nation into the ground from the nearest lamppost, but they can't get them off their necks. The Germans know that something smells big time with all the gold that they have on deposit in New York, but their politicians and lamestream ridicule the concerns they have about 3600 tons of gold in New York that their representatives are not even allowed to inspect.

The Europeans are just as beset by idiots and crooks as we are, and they are fully as incapable of doing anything about the situation as those of us across the Big Drink.

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