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Title: God: "Jacob I loved but Esau I hated"
Source: biblebelievers.org
URL Source: http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/bb980916.htm
Published: Nov 3, 2012
Author: Rom. 9:11
Post Date: 2012-11-03 21:18:30 by Itistoolate
Keywords: None
Views: 383
Comments: 15

Rom. 9:11 God: "Jacob I loved but Esau I hated"

THE ORIGINS OF THE JEWS **

The Jewish Encyclopedia,1925 edition, vol. 5, p. 41, says:"Edom is in ModernJewery." The Esau-Edomite nation ... "Thus dwelt Esau in Mount Seir; Esau is Edom."(2 images)

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#4. To: Itistoolate (#0)

The word used for “hate” in Malachi 1 is a Hebrew idiom which actually means to love less.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2012-11-03   23:42:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#4)

The word used for “hate” in Malachi 1 is a Hebrew idiom which actually means to love less.

Keep telling yourself that. I know it must not feel good to have scripture not line up with your beliefs, but that is the way it is. Jakob Arminius invented what you believe in the 16th century. Jesus did not die for every soul that has ever lived. He died for his elect, which can not be numbered.

echo5sierra  posted on  2012-11-04   11:54:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: echo5sierra (#10)

1 Timothy 2

I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2012-11-04   13:06:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#14. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#12)

I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

The Greek word "pas", which is translated as "all", has different uses depending on context. It doesn't mean "all" as all men everywhere at any time.

If it did, then Jesus is dying for Esau, whom he hates.

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