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Title: COINTELPRO Techniques for dilution, misdirection and control of a internet forum..
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URL Source: http://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm
Published: Jul 12, 2012
Author: "A"
Post Date: 2012-11-04 09:26:11 by Buzzard
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Views: 503
Comments: 25
There are several techniques for the control and manipulation of a internet forum no matter what, or who is on it. We will go over each technique and demonstrate that only a minimal number of operatives can be used to eventually and effectively gain a control of a 'uncontrolled forum.' Technique #1 - 'FORUM SLIDING' If a very sensitive posting of a critical nature has been posted on a forum - it can be quickly removed from public view by 'forum sliding.' In this technique a number of unrelated posts are quietly prepositioned on the forum and allowed to 'age.' Each of these misdirectional forum postings can then be called upon at will to trigger a 'forum slide.' The second requirement is that several fake accounts exist, which can be called upon, to ensure that this technique is not exposed to the public. To trigger a 'forum slide' and 'flush' the critical post out of public view it is simply a matter of logging into each account both real and fake and then 'replying' to prepositined postings with a simple 1 or 2 line comment. This brings the unrelated postings to the top of the forum list, and the critical posting 'slides' down the front page, and quickly out of public view. Although it is difficult or impossible to censor the posting it is now lost in a sea of unrelated and unuseful postings. By this means it becomes effective to keep the readers of the forum reading unrelated and non-issue items. Technique #2 - 'CONSENSUS CRACKING' A second highly effective technique (which you can see in operation all the time at www.abovetopsecret.com) is 'consensus cracking.' To develop a consensus crack, the following technique is used. Under the guise of a fake account a posting is made which looks legitimate and is towards the truth is made - but the critical point is that it has a VERY WEAK PREMISE without substantive proof to back the posting. Once this is done then under alternative fake accounts a very strong position in your favour is slowly introduced over the life of the posting. It is IMPERATIVE that both sides are initially presented, so the uninformed reader cannot determine which side is the truth. As postings and replies are made the stronger 'evidence' or disinformation in your favour is slowly 'seeded in.' Thus the uninformed reader will most like develop the same position as you, and if their position is against you their opposition to your posting will be most likely dropped. However in some cases where the forum members are highly educated and can counter your disinformation with real facts and linked postings, you can then 'abort' the consensus cracking by initiating a 'forum slide.' Technique #3 - 'TOPIC DILUTION' Topic dilution is not only effective in forum sliding it is also very useful in keeping the forum readers on unrelated and non-productive issues. This is a critical and useful technique to cause a 'RESOURCE BURN.' By implementing continual and non-related postings that distract and disrupt (trolling ) the forum readers they are more effectively stopped from anything of any real productivity. If the intensity of gradual dilution is intense enough, the readers will effectively stop researching and simply slip into a 'gossip mode.' In this state they can be more easily misdirected away from facts towards uninformed conjecture and opinion. The less informed they are the more effective and easy it becomes to control the entire group in the direction that you would desire the group to go in. It must be stressed that a proper assessment of the psychological capabilities and levels of education is first determined of the group to determine at what level to 'drive in the wedge.' By being too far off topic too quickly it may trigger censorship by a forum moderator. Technique #4 - 'INFORMATION COLLECTION' Information collection is also a very effective method to determine the psychological level of the forum members, and to gather intelligence that can be used against them. In this technique in a light and positive environment a 'show you mine so me yours' posting is initiated. From the number of replies and the answers that are provided much statistical information can be gathered. An example is to post your 'favourite weapon' and then encourage other members of the forum to showcase what they have. In this matter it can be determined by reverse proration what percentage of the forum community owns a firearm, and or a illegal weapon. This same method can be used by posing as one of the form members and posting your favourite 'technique of operation.' From the replies various methods that the group utilizes can be studied and effective methods developed to stop them from their activities. Technique #5 - 'ANGER TROLLING' Statistically, there is always a percentage of the forum posters who are more inclined to violence. In order to determine who these individuals are, it is a requirement to present a image to the forum to deliberately incite a strong psychological reaction. From this the most violent in the group can be effectively singled out for reverse IP location and possibly local enforcement tracking. To accomplish this only requires posting a link to a video depicting a local police officer massively abusing his power against a very innocent individual. Statistically of the million or so police officers in America there is always one or two being caught abusing there powers and the taping of the activity can be then used for intelligence gathering purposes - without the requirement to 'stage' a fake abuse video. This method is extremely effective, and the more so the more abusive the video can be made to look. Sometimes it is useful to 'lead' the forum by replying to your own posting with your own statement of violent intent, and that you 'do not care what the authorities think!!' inflammation. By doing this and showing no fear it may be more effective in getting the more silent and self-disciplined violent intent members of the forum to slip and post their real intentions. This can be used later in a court of law during prosecution. Technique #6 - 'GAINING FULL CONTROL' It is important to also be harvesting and continually maneuvering for a forum moderator position. Once this position is obtained, the forum can then be effectively and quietly controlled by deleting unfavourable postings - and one can eventually steer the forum into complete failure and lack of interest by the general public. This is the 'ultimate victory' as the forum is no longer participated with by the general public and no longer useful in maintaining their freedoms. Depending on the level of control you can obtain, you can deliberately steer a forum into defeat by censoring postings, deleting memberships, flooding, and or accidentally taking the forum offline. By this method the forum can be quickly killed. However it is not always in the interest to kill a forum as it can be converted into a 'honey pot' gathering center to collect and misdirect newcomers and from this point be completely used for your control for your agenda purposes. CONCLUSION Remember these techniques are only effective if the forum participants DO NOT KNOW ABOUT THEM. Once they are aware of these techniques the operation can completely fail, and the forum can become uncontrolled. At this point other avenues must be considered such as initiating a false legal precidence to simply have the forum shut down and taken offline. This is not desirable as it then leaves the enforcement agencies unable to track the percentage of those in the population who always resist attempts for control against them. Many other techniques can be utilized and developed by the individual and as you develop further techniques of infiltration and control it is imperative to share then with HQ. Poster Comment: I'm confidant most here are aware of these techniques. But for those who may be new, take it for what it's worth. And there's more good information at the source page.
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#1. To: Buzzard (#0)
This is why Bozo List and Ignore Thread buttons were created.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken What has always amused me are people who think the government is so all-powerful and all-knowing that it can pull off impossible conspiracies, then turn right around and refuse to believe those very same conspiracies are just government propaganda to delude people into believing...the government is all-powerful and all-knowing.
There are actually govt agents who spread conspiracy theories among the gullible to help promote the illusion that the govt is all powerful.
Then this one should make your day. what amazes me is people who claim to be Christian who don't believe [or read?] the Bible. 2 Thessalonians 2:9 bible.cc/2_thessalonians/2-9.htm even he , whose coming is according to the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,. "...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
That is one that really gets me. I'm certainly no expert on the Bible. but it turns out I know it a lot better than so-called Christians who cherry-pick it or else really haven't read it at all and believe what some tele-evangelist told them. By the way, I used to live in the St. Louis area and had occasion to visit the HQ of Joyce Meyers Ministries, which is located here. Try about a thousand landscaped acres, a brick fence all around, and an armed guard at the gate. It was clearly a multimillion dollar complex. There are actually govt agents who spread conspiracy theories among the gullible to help promote the illusion that the govt is all powerful.
your point? i am not a follower of Joyce Meyers. .... edit.....or any other televangelist....most if not all are in the pocket of British-Israhell [ www.seekgod.ca/identity.htm ] "...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
How odd that these so-called Christians just happen to have accumulated hundreds of millions of dollars. If they hadn't accumulated it when they still be Christians? Remember that saying about the love of money... There are actually govt agents who spread conspiracy theories among the gullible to help promote the illusion that the govt is all powerful.
This all worked quite well in a long running chat place out here that I watched pretty much get turned upside down last month ... How odd that these so-called Christians just happen to have accumulated hundreds of millions of dollars. If they hadn't accumulated it when they still be Christians? Remember that saying about the love of money... and if that 'rapture' they keep harping on to the sheeple comes about....why do they NEED all that money anyway? British Israel: The Hidden Hand Behind the 'The Kingdom of God on Earth' Deception British Israel Uses Christian Fundamentalist Evangelicals to Promote the "Kingdom of God on Earth' Scheme to Deliver Up A One World Society-Both Feudal and Fascist www.redicecreations.com/s.../08aug/britishisrael.html I don't agree with all the fine points in the article, but that's okay, the title pretty much says it all. ============== edit: excerpt from the article: "The frontline promoters and propagandists of the 'Kingdom of God on Earth' scenario include all the well known TV evangelical personalities like Pat Robertson, Billy Graham, Robert Shuller, Benny Hinn, Jack Van Impe, Jerry Falwell, Paul & Jan Crouch of Trinity Broadcasting, Jesse Duplantis, Kenneth Copeland, Rod Parsley, Fred Price, Kim Clement, and Kenneth Hagin among others, but their ranks are also swollen with lesser known evangelical, pro-Israel promoters who show up on UHF, cable TV, and radio stations every Sunday morning to pitch the soon-to-be-realized Great Tribulation and End Times "prophecies". " Just imagine if you were in control of things like HAARP, what you could do to fake a "Great Tribulation" etc. [most of which already happened in 70 AD: http://freebooks.entrewave.com/freebooks/docs/2226_47e.htm ] to put Israhell and the fake "Throne of David" [lying Judeo-British Empire] in control of the world for a mythical "1000 years", and say it was the will of God? That's what they're trying to do. More of the plot here: http://watch.pair.com/death-phoenix.html and places like this: BRITISH ISRAEL- Steps Toward British Union, a World State, and ... British Union - Jordan Maxwell British Israel World Federation Movement - Godlike Productions sorry my computer is really dragging now, and that's the best i can do. you might also want to look at the alex ROTHSCHILD site scepterofjudah.net or .com where they put this whole diabolical plan to script!! "...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
sorry. not trying to disrupt your thread or the forum. just trying to connect the dots. for those who have eyes to see. you are in luck! i have other things to do for the rest of the day! "...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
What amuses me is your propensity to post the most illogical claims in the guise of some brand of folksy common sense. As if there was anything contradictory in the power of governments to conspire against the people, and for the benefit of the ruling classes, all the while conducting a conscious program of propaganda to ensure their hold on power. Experience and a casual reading of history tell us that those things go hand in hand. Just to cite the most egregious of recent examples, not only did our government conspire to ship guns to the Mexican cartels, but before they were caught red-handed, Justice officials could be heard making statements in which it is plain that the onus was to be placed at the feet of gun dealers, gun owners and Second Amendment advocates. And it's well known that the Pentagon pays for favorable coverage, "information operations," propaganda, what have you, both here and abroad. Conspiracy and propaganda go hand in hand. Always have done so and always will. There's nothing contradictory about that. As William Colby, the former CIA Director once famously said, “The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media.” Post something that makes a lick of sense, Turtle. Everything I write makes sense. Only a complete fool can truly believe in explosives in the WTC and remote-controlled airplanes. They're the same people who think the Moon landings were shot on a stage, that there were three shooters on Kennedy (and his driver turned around and finished him off), and that the Titanic was sunk for the insurance money. Here's what smart people in the past thought about the fools who think everything is a conspiracy: Isaiah 8:12. "Don't call everything a conspiracy, like they do, and don't live in dread of what frightens them." That was written thousands of years ago. There are actually govt agents who spread conspiracy theories among the gullible to help promote the illusion that the govt is all powerful.
Ever heard of a Global Hawk? They can, and have been, flown by remote control. "...Global Hawk’s only official visit to Australia was in April 2001, touching down at RAAF Edinburgh amid a blaze of publicity as it completed a record-breaking 14,000-kilometre flight across the Pacific from California..." "...In February 2006, an American journalist from industry publication Aviation Week and Space Technology was given access to report on a single Global Hawk reconnaissance mission from RAAF Edinburgh to southern Japan and back again..." http://www.uasvision.com/2012/09...rom-australia-until-2006/ Remote controlled from California to Australia and from England to Japan and back to England. And not a little remote-controlled plane either, a big sumbitch. More info about the Global Hawk: Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi "If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken "..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
That's very insulting to people here that I respect for the level of argument that they are able to sustain on this forum, unlike others who just come here to degrade the debate with predictable one-liner flatulence. Anyone who believes that two massive skyscrapers came down, disintegrated literally, after they were hit by less airliner than they were designed to sustain and because of the combustion of twenty thousand or so gallons of kerosene is living in just the country they deserve. Dude, only a complete fool believes that wtc 7 was brought down by anything other than explosives. The one thing I trust more than anything else, is my eyes.
Of course there were explosives in the towers, they blew up, not collapsed. and yes, the moon walk was a silly hoax filmed on a stage. Everyone knows Oswald was a patsy and only the most extreme government statists believe the warren commission tripe. Actually I didnt even think that ANYONE outside of government advocated the warren tripe. You must be the first. the titanic ive never looked at, so dont have an opinion on it. But in the end, it doesn't matter one bit if we disagree. Youre free to believe whatever you want, makes no difference to me. But on another note, you should not call people fools. The same Bible you referred to says not to do that. "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
No worries. Turtle has chosen to provide us with a live example of how one disrupts a thread. He should be commended for his thoughtfulness. Perhaps you should go to Congress and tell them to strike down the laws against conspiracies, since such things don't exist, the Bible says so. you sure ask for a lot. Indeed. Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi "If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken "..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
Indeed. Airplanes Have Been Flown By Remote Control Since 1917 Pics or it didn't happen! LOL _______________________________________________________________________________ The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself,Take Action!!!
There is a youtube video in the article I linked to. I didn't watch it because I don't have any audio on my computer at the moment.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi "If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken "..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
I think he's just bored and needin' some uh. Just the same, I hope he doesn't start accidentally posting links to gay pug porn sites.
I was just pulling your leg, I clicked on the link and checked it out a bit. _______________________________________________________________________________ The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself,Take Action!!!
Oh, ok. I thought you might have been joking.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi "If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken "..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
#2. To: Buzzard (#0)
#3. To: Turtle (#2)
What has always amused me.....
the quality of a man’s life is directly proportionate to
his commitment to excellence.’
#4. To: Turtle (#2)
What has always amused me are people who think the government is so all-powerful and all-knowing that it can pull off impossible conspiracies,
#5. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#4)
what amazes me is people who claim to be Christian who don't believe [or read?] the Bible.
#6. To: Turtle (#5)
(Edited)
By the way, I used to live in the St. Louis area and had occasion to visit the HQ of Joyce Meyers Ministries, which is located here. Try about a thousand landscaped acres, a brick fence all around, and an armed guard at the gate. It was clearly a multimillion dollar complex.
#7. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#6)
your point? i am not a follower of Joyce Meyers. ....
#8. To: Buzzard (#0)
I'm confidant most here are aware of these techniques.
after 15+ years playing together we learned that 3-4 had been 'playing' 30+ individual personalities stearing everything with clear agenda of, to name a few points
- hate on Christians in every way possible
- hate on anyone who supports Palestine
- sell 'new age' shit & services
- 'PUSH' homosexuality as being cool & enlightened
Many had suspicions over the years but were easily shouted down by what seemed to be dozens who disagreed. Now we know that these 'dozens' were just 3-4 quite clever individuals. Every major news event, like 911 was immediately followed by a couple of pros who took the guberment's side fully. They were rarely seen at any other time.
This, out here on the internet has been a battleground all along. They have the luxury of hiding behind a screen and knowing the odds of us finding them in 3D world are quite low.
Only dead fish go with the flow
~ the truth will set ya free, but only after it pisses ya off
~my place to rant
#9. To: Turtle (#7)
(Edited)
www.fourwinds10.net/siterun_data/government/new.../news.php?...
BRITISH ISRAEL- Steps Toward British Union, a World State, and International Strife ... In the late 1930s, the British Israel World Federation Movement's Destiny ... [from memory, declared September 2001 would be the time to bring in their "kingdom of god on earth"]
jordanmaxwell.com/.../us-congressional-record-1940-british-israel-world-$1.pdf - Cached These articles are entitled "Steps Toward British Union, a. World State, and International Strife." This is part I, ...... British-Israel movement in the United States .
www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message625351/pg1 British Israel World Federation Movement: Steps Toward British Union, a World State, and International Strife [link to www.jordanmaxwell.com] ...
#10. To: Buzzard (#0)
#11. To: Turtle (#2)
What has always amused me are people who think the government is so all-powerful and all-knowing that it can pull off impossible conspiracies, then turn right around and refuse to believe those very same conspiracies are just government propaganda to delude people into believing...the government is all-powerful and all-knowing.
#12. To: randge (#11)
Post something that makes a lick of sense, Turtle.
#13. To: Turtle (#12)
Everything I write makes sense. Only a complete fool can truly believe in explosives in the WTC and remote-controlled airplanes.
#14. To: Turtle (#12)
Only a complete fool can truly believe in explosives in the WTC and remote-controlled airplanes.
#15. To: Turtle (#12)
#16. To: Turtle (#12)
Everything I write makes sense. Only a complete fool can truly believe in explosives in the WTC and remote-controlled airplanes. They're the same people who think the Moon landings were shot on a stage, that there were three shooters on Kennedy (and his driver turned around and finished him off), and that the Titanic was sunk for the insurance money.
#17. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, turtle (#10)
sorry. not trying to disrupt your thread or the forum. just trying to connect the dots.
the quality of a man’s life is directly proportionate to
his commitment to excellence.’
#18. To: Turtle (#12)
Isaiah 8:12. "Don't call everything a conspiracy, like they do, and don't live in dread of what frightens them."
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#19. To: randge (#11)
Post something that makes a lick of sense, Turtle.
If either Moromney or Mammyjammyobammy win the November (s)election peoples with common sense will pray that December 21 2012 will indeed be the end of the world!
#20. To: randge, Turtle (#11)
Post something that makes a lick of sense, Turtle.
#21. To: James Deffenbach (#20)
#22. To: titorite (#21)
#23. To: Buzzard, Turtle (#17)
#24. To: James Deffenbach (#22)
There is a youtube video in the article I linked to. I didn't watch it because I don't have any audio on my computer at the moment.
#25. To: titorite (#24)
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