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Title: The Police Can Now Put Hidden Cameras In Your Home Without Your Permission
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URL Source: http://www.businessinsider.com/yes- ... fraid-of-my-government-2012-11
Published: Nov 5, 2012
Author: http://www.businessinsider.com/yes-im-ge
Post Date: 2012-11-05 16:18:46 by tom007
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Views: 444
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The Police Can Now Put Hidden Cameras In Your Home Without Your Permission David Seaman, David Seaman Online | Nov. 5, 2012, 2:46 PM | 3,023 | 13

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Look, first off, I'm not one of those nutters who thinks we should do away with federal law enforcement agencies, or spy agencies, or the Coast Guard, or the interstate system, or the SEC.

BUT.

Strange things are happening here in the United States of America, right now, that are so troubling it is almost hard to believe they are occurring. Your taxpayer money is going toward these things. And your silence and/or apathy is tacit approval, not only in my eyes but in the eyes of the government.

What am I talking about?

Aside from the terrifying results of a NYU/Stanford non-partisan study on the use of American drones in Pakistan -- the Spark Notes version of the data-rich study is that our drones are, in some cases, performing 'double-tap' sorties... which sounds all well and good, until you learn that 'double-tap' means the drone returns after it strikes and launches additional missiles into the building, killing rescue workers, innocent bystanders trying to help burn victims, and local medics.

And the victims of these strikes are targeted based on remote 'pattern of life' analysis -- if you don't know what that means, that's OK, because I don't either. But it doesn't sound terribly judicial or transparent.

Again, I said ASIDE from all of that -- yes, I'm worried about what we're doing in Pakistan with taxpayer money, but I'm more worried about what we are doing right here.

And I also mean, aside from the billions we are allegedly spending on data centers to intercept and store Americans' electronic communications without a warrant, in fairly clear violation of the Fourth Amendment of the United States Constitution.

Ready to put on your tinfoil hat? Here's where things get weird.

Ready to put on your tinfoil hat? Here's where things get weird.

This government, our government, a supposedly moderate government of Barack Obama (he has an iPad and a Spotify playlist and likes dogs and is funny on Jay Leno! He must be moderate!) is now claiming the legal right to install surveillance cameras in your home or on your property without a warrant. And is doing so, in some cases.

If they hate us for our freedoms over in Pakistan or wherever, I'm pretty certain the hatred will dry up soon, because this is not freedom. As CNET reported, "Police are allowed in some circumstances to install hidden surveillance cameras on private property without obtaining a search warrant, a federal judge said yesterday."

The government has evidently lost its mind, as have our federal judges. Tricky situation.

And no, I'm not suggesting things would be fantastic or magically better under a Romney administration -- that's not the point of this article. I suspect if Romney won, which according to Nate Silver he won't, this insanity would continue at the same pace, if not faster.

Regardless of who wins on Tuesday, we need to put our collective feet down and Just Say No. Respect our right to privacy. Respect our Constitutionally guaranteed rights. And treat us, taxpayers and citizens, with more than a shred of dignity.

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#1. To: tom007 (#0)

As CNET reported, "Police are allowed in some circumstances to install hidden surveillance cameras on private property without obtaining a search warrant, a federal judge said yesterday."

We are in a state of civil war... For whatever reason the US declared it upon herself.

_______________________________________________________________________________ The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself,Take Action!!!

titorite  posted on  2012-11-05   16:22:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: titorite (#1)

My conclusion as well.

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tom007  posted on  2012-11-05   16:29:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: tom007 (#0)

the Spark Notes version of the data-rich study is that our drones are, in some cases, performing 'double-tap' sorties... which sounds all well and good, until you learn that 'double-tap' means the drone returns after it strikes and launches additional missiles into the building, killing rescue workers, innocent bystanders trying to help burn victims, and local medics.

The 'double-tap' is SOP to eliminate terrorists. But, in this case it is bordering on terrorism to have the drones 'double-tap' the scene of a recent attack. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-11-05   16:32:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: tom007, titorite (#0)

As CNET reported, "Police are allowed in some circumstances to install hidden surveillance cameras on private property without obtaining a search warrant, a federal judge said yesterday

We are indeed in a state of civil war when we have to put up with this sort of non-sense. If they want to put a camera in my place, they are wasting their time. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-11-05   16:34:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: BTP Holdings (#4)

If you own a computer with a webcam, then they can watch and listen to you now.

Obnoxicated  posted on  2012-11-05   18:01:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Obnoxicated (#5)

...they can will watch and listen to you now.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2012-11-05   18:16:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Obnoxicated (#5)

If you own a computer with a webcam, then they can watch and listen to you now.

I used to have a buddy that did contract work for the phone companies.

He did not plug his phone jack in the wall unless he was gonna make a call. And the cell stayed in the truck.

But just because everything can be monitored does not mean everything is. I mean you gotta piss off a bee before you can get stung.

_______________________________________________________________________________ The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself,Take Action!!!

titorite  posted on  2012-11-05   18:48:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: tom007 (#0)

I can also blow their heads off without their permission. Let them try, and I assure you they will die.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-11-05   22:42:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Obnoxicated (#5)

If you own a computer with a webcam, then they can watch and listen to you now.

This is 100% false is you are using Linux. Sure they can do it with Windows or possibly Mac, but they can't do it with Linux unless you let them.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-11-05   22:44:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Obnoxicated (#5)

If you own a computer with a webcam,

Nope, and I hope I never do own one with a webcam. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-11-06   16:45:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: RickyJ (#8) (Edited)

I can also blow their heads off without their permission.

Obama says he believes in the 2nd Amendment, but he also says that the U.N. should control our guns. Any questions? ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-11-06   16:48:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: RickyJ (#9)

Aren't the webcams a function of the monitor and not the OS?

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2012-11-06   16:57:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: titorite, lod (#7)

I'm not OS savvy, so I'll have to take your word for it. However, my 17 y.o. son was somehow able to access and monitor his laptop webcam here at home from his friend's laptop at his home 15 miles away. Don't know how he did it, but I do know that as soon as he got home, he covered the lens with a peice of electricians tape. I guess all my lectures and warnings about big brother have made the poor kid paranoid.

Obnoxicated  posted on  2012-11-07   0:35:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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