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Title: Suspect: AMEC, ... did renovations to Pentagon, WTC b.7
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URL Source: http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=631
Published: Oct 21, 2006
Author: Various
Post Date: 2012-11-12 05:16:02 by GreyLmist
Keywords: 9/11, Pentagon, WTC, AMEC, et al.
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On its own Web site, AMEC, a London-based military contractor, announces it was contracted to fortify the West wing of the Pentagon and to clean up the wreckage at both the Pentagon and Silverstein's WTC. http://www.amec.com/earthandenvironmental/...asp?pageid=1107 Emergency Response/Cleanup – World Trade Center At the World Trade Center, AMEC’s around-the-clock activities began hours after the attacks and included strategic and logistical planning, debris-removal management, health and safety planning, environmental monitoring and testing, data management and daily interaction with federal, state and local emergency and regulatory agencies. And from Portland Independent Media: Foreign owned British AMEC was put in charge of the areas hit on 9-11 long before 9-11. Then, they cleaned up after it. British AMEC did pre-9-11 WTC7 "renovations" and pre-9-11 Pentagon wedge "renovations and strengthening". Both of these British AMEC areas then suffer controlled demolition or were damaged intentionally on 9-11. Then Brititsh AMEC cleans it up. Then they leave the country in 2004. "AMEC Construction Management, a subsidiary of the British engineering firm AMEC, renovated Wedge One of the Pentagon before 9-11 and cleaned it up afterward. AMEC had also renovated Silverstein's WTC 7, which collapsed mysteriously on 9-11, and then headed the cleanup of the WTC site afterward. The AMEC construction firm is currently in the process of closing all its offices in the United States. Poster Comment: This topic is to archive references on AMEC and others of relevance. Much more info in a series of postings next.
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[49] British AMEC's contract "date to completion" for attack reinforcement for Pentagon wedge, the one that was hit? AMEC's contract was to have the Pentagon reinforcement complete by.....September 2001--the month it was hit. ------------ Pentagon Official Surveillance Video ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
So everyone except the accounting team looking for Dov's stolen trillions was gone? How quaint. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken David Kersey, Vice President, AMEC Construction Management Inc. -- ZoomInfo.com Kersey was at the Pentagon ... on 9/11 www.winchest er star.com, 10 Sept 2011 [cached] Kersey was at the Pentagon during the attack, but was outside the building when the airplane struck. David Kersey is in a construction trailer on the Pentagon parking lot when his boss calls. He's about to head to Wedge One, one of five sections of the Pentagon under renovation, but he takes the phone call instead. Kersey is the vice president of AMEC - a construction company that has just finished the first major renovation project on the Pentagon. At 2 p.m., Kersey decides to go back. He is one of a few people who can show rescue personnel how to get into the building, turn off the electricity and turn on the water. Traffic is not permitted near the building, so he walks the remaining 1 miles. He ends up working throughout the night. On Sept. 15, Kersey and his crew sign a contract to gut and replace 1.2 million square feet of building space in the damaged area. ------------ American Institute of Architects eClassroom - View Course Details David Kersey David Kersey is a Vice President with AMEC Construction Management Inc. and works in the Washington D.C. metropolitan area. His career has included working for general contractors, owners, and developers as well as owning his own light commercial and residential construction company. Kersey's career has included direct involvement with a number of high profile projects including The Willard Hotel in Washington, DC, the Time Life Headquarters in Alexandria, Virginia, and various buildings at Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore, MD. He has also worked on numerous professional sports projects including facilities for the Washington Wizards, Capitals, and Mystics, the Pittsburgh Pirates, the Pittsburgh Steelers, the Philadelphia Eagles and the Miami Heat. Kersey served as the Project Executive for AMEC's team that renovated Wedge One of the Pentagon and completed that effort on September 3, 2001 - only 8 days prior to the September 11th terrorist attacks. Having been only 800 feet away from the point of impact of the hijacked plane, Kersey remained on site throughout the night of 9/11 witnessing the events first hand and assisting with any construction related issues. Serving as Project Executive once again, Kersey led AMEC's team that was responsible for rebuilding the Pentagon and for achieving the goal of moving tenants back into the damaged portion of the Pentagon by the one-year observation of the attack. Kersey is a member of the AGC, DBIA, ABC and DCBIA and a graduate (B.S., Industrial Engineering) of Virginia Tech. [sic] AMEC's capabilities at the Pentagon were displayed before and proven during the attack. They had just completed a project to strengthen and renovate one section of the Pentagon, called Wedge 1, prior to Sept. 11. In the renovation, steel reinforcing beams were bolted together, floor to floor, to form a continuous unit, walls were lined with a strong fibrous material to trap fragmentation from explosions and blast-resistant glass nearly two inches thick was used in the windows. ------------ My Note: American taxpayers should get a refund from AMEC on tbe hundreds of millions of dollars for that 3-year wedge/wall renovation/reinforcement "project", which was practically useless in stopping whatever blasted through it and multiple rings too. Compare the multi-impacts there to the WTC Towers that we're told were so flimsy that planes went through those outer steeled-walls like melting through butter, yet somehow still acted like baseball gloves to short-stop those alleged jets in a New York minute, so to speak. Edited for grammar and punctuation. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Excerpt from: The Pentagon Renovations Completed on 9/11/2001 A year’s work finally finished. Dan Fraunfelter counted himself lucky when he landed a job working on the first phase of the massive Pentagon renovation project. When the military complex was originally built, it was constructed in five, chevron-shaped wedges. Each chevron, more than 1 million square feet in size, accommodating roughly 5,000 workers, was designed as a stand-alone building with its own separate utility system. The unique design was meant to make the entire complex stronger (if one section of the building was suddenly disabled, the others could function regularly without disruption.) But it also lent itself particularly well to renovation. Even though the Pentagon is massive—larger than three Empire State Buildings, the face on each of the five sides slightly longer than three football fields— the wedge construction allowed engineers to remake the building one, easy-to-close-off section at a time. Contractors could simply move workers, seal off a wedge, and install new features like reinforced steel columns and two-inch-thick blast- resistant windows. Fraunfelter, a 24-year-old who studies architecture part time at Northern Virginia Community College, had long been fascinated by the Pentagon. When his firm, Amec Construction, won the general contract for Wedge 1, he plunged into the job eagerly, anxious to explore every square inch of the physical structure. On Sept. 11, the contract officially complete, Fraunfelter was finishing up a few last punch-list items. He arrived on-site at 7 a.m. to prepare for an 8 a.m. tenant meeting. It was a routine job-completion task, a meeting where tenants handed over a list of final fix-it items: touch-up painting, leaking pipes, etc. [MSNBC] American Airlines Flight 77 struck the portion of the building that had already been renovated. It was the only area of the Pentagon with a sprinkler system, and it had been reconstructed with a web of steel columns and bars to withstand bomb blasts. The steel reinforcement, bolted together to form a continuous structure through all of the Pentagon's five floors, kept that section of the building from collapsing for 30 minutes--enough time for hundreds of people to crawl out to safety. The area struck by the plane also had blast-resistant windows--2 inches thick and 2,500 pounds each--that stayed intact during the crash and fire. It had fire doors that opened automatically and newly built exits that allowed people to get out. "This was a terrible tragedy, but I'm here to tell you that if we had not undertaken these efforts in the building, this could have been much, much worse," [Lee Evey, program manager for the Pentagon renovation project] said. "The fact that they happened to hit an area that we had built so sturdily was a wonderful gift." The rest of the Pentagon would not have fared as well. The fire that swept through the building caused the greatest damage in an unrenovated section with no sprinkler system, heavy windows or steel reinforcements. But many of the offices there were empty in anticipation of the renovation. While perhaps 4,500 people normally would have been working in the hardest-hit areas, because of the renovation work only about 800 were there Tuesday, officials said. [LATimes] Most of Marine Aviation had just the weekend before been moved to the "Butler building," an extension of the Pentagon and about 200 yards from where the impact occurred, not nearly as close as their previous offices. [mca- marines.org] [map] ------------ My Note: The rest is from a CNN interview segment that seems to conflict with the LA Times above, which said Flt. 77 struck the portion of the building that had already been renovated. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
To this day, it makes my hair hurt to read that any commercial airliner hit the pentagon.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken Remedial snippet from Metahistory: Lexicon I: The Greek/Coptic term plane (PLAH-nay) means "error, leading astray — "mind-bending" in the sense [of] "deception," ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
How quaint. Not sure. Info at Post #4 says about 800 were in the blast vicinity. Interesting article on the missing trillions issue: Missing Pentagon Trillions - Where Did They COME From? By Joshua Daniels Where did it come from? If you add up the entire US defense budgets from 1996 to 2001, you only come up with circa 1.6 trillion. Yet, according to Rummy, not only was that much money lost, but an ADDITIONAL 700 BILLION dollars has disappeared. Remember, we're talking about 2.3 trillion dollars "missing." Zakheim had evidently served in a variety of DoD positions going back to the time of former President Reagan. Long story short, $7 trillion in "adjustments" were reportedly made to the Pentagon's financial ledgers in 1999, during the Clinton administration, to make the books add up and that's when the receipts for $2.3 trillion couldn't be found. Half a trillion dollars of it was just to make adjustments to earlier adjustments -- like slippery "balancing acts". Ref. YouTube: 9/11 Jewish State Foreknowledge & 'The Dancing Israelis' -- two articles [Defense Daily and Associated Press] starting at the 28:10 mark. Edited for punctuation and to expand article excerpt. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
[newsmine.org] Reference Full article at newsmine.org: http://govexec.com/features/0502/0502s3.htm May 1, 2002 By George Cahlink Strong management, innovation and a few lucky breaks are allowing workers to rebuild the Pentagon faster than expected. Ask Will Colston the age of his infant son, and he’s quick to reply, “He’s 157 days old.” Colston pauses for a few seconds for a rough calculation and then adds, “That’s about six months old.” Colston, project manager for the team rebuilding the Pentagon after last fall’s terrorist attack, measures his life in days—not months or weeks— since Sept. 11. That also happens to be the day his wife gave birth to their child, Noah. Days, hours and minutes are crucial for the roughly 1,000 construction workers who have vowed that Defense employees will be back at work in the refurbished outer ring of the Pentagon on the one-year anniversary of the deadliest terrorist attacks on U.S. soil. The remainder of the damaged building will be repaired by next spring. “The Sept. 11 goal serves as our vision. It has forced us to put any problems on the table and get them resolved quickly,” says Colston, who, like many of the project’s managers, regularly pulls six-day workweeks that stretch well over 12 hours a day. Unwavering resolve among the construction team has been critical to speedily rebuilding the Pentagon. Equally vital have been a series of contract reforms, quick thinking by managers and a few lucky breaks that have allowed the effort, aptly named Rising Phoenix, to move several weeks ahead on its ambitious schedule. Built hastily during World War II, the Defense Department headquarters has become a crumbling fortress that fails to meet local, state or federal building codes. Since 1993, the 5.5-million-square-foot Pentagon has been undergoing a $3 billion, two-decade renovation designed to bring it into the 21st century. The building comprises five, 1-million-square-foot “wedges” that will be gutted and rebuilt successively so that at any one time no more than a fifth of the Pentagon’s workers have to be relocated. Each wedge houses about 5,000 employees. On Sept. 11, Pentagon construction crews were doing final, touch-up work on the first wedge after more than three years of renovation. Some Defense employees already were moving into new office spaces. “We were down to checking the marble [floor] tile for cracks,” says David Kersey, project manager for British construction firm AMEC Inc., which held a $280 million contract for the Wedge 1 renovation. Fewer than 100 AMEC workers and subcontractors were onsite, while a new construction team, led by Hensel-Phelps Construction Co. of Greeley, Colo., was setting up shop to begin the next round of renovations. Hijacked American Airlines Flight 77 tore into the Pentagon at 350 miles per hour, tearing through three of the building’s five rings before exploding in a fireball that killed 125 Pentagon workers and 64 airline passengers. (No construction workers died.) The plane hit at a 45-degree angle, causing it to travel through both the newly renovated Wedge 1 and a portion of Wedge 2 that was awaiting renovation. All told, about 400,000 square feet were damaged by flames, smoke and water from a fire that burned for two days. Lee Evey, program manager for the Pentagon renovation project, says that if the building had not been under repair, there could have been 10,000 Defense employees in Wedges 1 and 2. Instead, there were only 4,600 workers in the 2 million square feet of offices, some having just moved into new Wedge 1 offices while others were waiting to move out of Wedge 2. Several improvements related to the renovation also kept down the death toll. “The building performed phenomenally. The changes we made as a result of the renovation ensured there were as few casualties as possible,” Evey says. For example, a newly installed sprinkler system quickly squelched the fire in Wedge 1. Wedge 2 did not yet have a sprinkler system, and the fire burned there for nearly two days. In some areas it burned so hot that windows melted into puddles. Structural enhancements also proved their worth. A newly installed reinforced steel structure outfitted with Kevlar webbing kept Wedge I standing for about 35 minutes, despite bearing the brunt of the attack. Hundreds of workers were able to escape before the section collapsed. Also, the blast- resistant windows installed in the outer ring of the renovated wedge at a cost of $10,000 apiece likely prevented injuries or even deaths that might have resulted from flying debris. Managing Chaos Recovery operations by firefighters, federal investigators and disaster experts from the Federal Emergency Management Agency required sifting through more than 10,000 tons of limestone façade and twisted steel to collect evidence and locate victims. Suddenly, managers for the federal government’s largest building renovation were thrust into the role of supporting recovery crews at the nation’s second-largest disaster site. “It seemed chaotic, but there was a jumbled order to it,” says Evey. Initially, recovery crews had predicted it would take as long as eight weeks to sort through rubble and identify any remains, but the job was done in two weeks due in part to support provided by the renovation workers. The experience of Pentagon renovation program managers in contingency planning and contracting for a large project also paid dividends in the recovery effort. Managers ordered floodlights and power generators for the recovery crew shortly after the plane hit, correctly anticipating that the work would continue around the clock for several days. Also, the managers quickly distributed architectural drawings to recovery crews, enabling them to navigate the wreckage. The program office even asked a local printer to be on call 24 hours a day, in case extra copies were needed. When the FBI needed new, clean dumpsters for preserving evidence, program managers ordered them quickly from suppliers already on contract for the renovation. When the FBI requested construction of a more stable road leading into the recovery site, renovation managers had no trouble getting gravel delivered. They also proposed a simple solution when recovery crews complained that crash site security checks were slowing delivery trucks: Ask FBI agents to ride shotgun to get each truck through faster. Beginning in mid-October, Pentagon construction crews were back on site to demolish and remove damaged portions of the building. Estimates suggested it would take as long as eight months to remove the debris and begin rebuilding. But construction crews, working 24-hour days, seven days a week, had the site ready for rebuilding before Thanksgiving. Now, renovation managers face their greatest challenge—quickly rebuilding the damaged portion of the building without scaling back or delaying the Pentagon’s long overdue modernization project. A New Approach Three days after the attack, Pentagon renovation officials made it clear they would continue the project while rebuilding. They awarded Hensel-Phelps, a Colorado-based construction firm, the first installment of a $758 million contract to renovate the remaining 4 million square feet (Wedges 2 to 5) by 2014. Originally, the contract was to be awarded Sept. 11. Hensel-Phelps and the Wedge 1 contractor, AMEC, agreed to jointly rebuild Wedge 1 and the damaged portion of Wedge 2. The repair costs could top $700 million. The success of those agreements—and ultimately, the rebuilding and renovation of the Pentagon—will hinge on a series of contract reforms made in recent years by project managers. Five years ago, Evey, a former Air Force and NASA contracting chief who had no construction experience, took over the Pentagon renovation project and found a “broken” program management structure. Since 1993, renovation teams had missed most of their key deadlines, lawmakers had frozen spending because of cost overruns, and contracts had been awarded based only on cost, not performance. Evey found the cost overruns and delays largely were attributable to an acquisition strategy that was as outdated as the building’s electrical system, which had not met code since 1953. The traditional contracting approach to federal construction, known as “design-bid-build,” required hiring a designer to spend months drawing up highly detailed renovation plans. The design plans for Wedge 1 took eight months to create and were more than 3,500 pages long. The bidding was then opened to builders who offered firm, fixed-price bids for the work, which went to the lowest bidder, with little consideration for past performance. Michael Sullivan, deputy program manager, says design-bid-build contracts often create adversarial relationships between contractors and clients. With fixed- price contracts, the only way a firm can make additional money, Sullivan says, is by making changes in the design. “It forces them to find faults to make money. That’s not the type of relationship you want with your contractor,” says Sullivan. As a result, the Pentagon renovation project is now using design-build contracts, a popular tool in the private sector, for future renovations. The design-build approach saves time, by scrapping lengthy design documents and open bid competitions, and holds contractors accountable for their work. Unlike traditional construction deals, design-build contracts cover only cost and materials. The contractor can only turn a profit by earning an incentive worth 10 percent of the contract value if it meets quarterly performance goals. All design-build contracts are audited by the Defense Contract Audit Agency to ensure that labor and material charges do not hide profits. The government and contractor evenly share any cost overruns that do not exceed 10 percent of the contract’s cost. The contractor covers any overruns beyond 10 percent. Any savings are also split, with 70 percent going back to the government and 30 percent to the contractor. Sullivan says design-build contracts will help keep both the renovation and rebuilding work on schedule because they tie a contractor’s profits directly to their performance. Already, he says, design-build contracting has proved successful in its first test, saving Defense $1 million in building the Pentagon’s $99 million remote delivery facility, which opened on time last year. Tom Schwieger, operations manager for Hansel-Phelps, says the design-build contract has been even more valuable in light of Sept. 11. Hansel-Phelps, poised to win the Pentagon renovation contract well before the attacks, expected to begin work on 1 million square feet of space in Wedge 2 by Dec. 1, 2001. However, only about 300,000 square feet of that space was ready for renovation in December because some had been destroyed and the rest was needed to house workers displaced from Wedge 1 by damage from the attack. Schwieger says the contract gives Hansel-Phelps the flexibility to begin renovating some of the space and to delay rebuilding the rest. Under the old contracting methods, he says, making any changes to the original plan would have taken months, because it would have required modifying the contract. “Now, everything does not have to be suggested, bid and approved,” he adds. Sullivan says that allowing contractors to offer designs plans can lead to better use of building space. For example, the Pentagon’s original renovation plans called for modular furniture that needed to be taken apart to be moved. Hensel-Phelps came up with reconfigured office plans including freestanding furniture and better placement of lighting and utilities wires. “Flexibility is so critical in this building, because military personnel rotate in and out at least every three or four years,” he says. Looking Ahead Building contractors aren’t the only ones providing project managers with insight into improvements that can be made during ongoing renovations. Several task forces, such as the Building Evaluation Task Force Group and the Pentagon Force Protection Project Action Team, have been created to interview workers who were in the building on Sept. 11, review building policies, and consult with outside experts on building safety and security. Among the results: All wedges now will have luminescent fire exit signs and arrows along baseboards rather than electric exit signs over doorways. Those in the building Sept. 11 complained it was difficult to see signs above doors while they were crawling out of the smoke-filled corridors on their hands and knees. “None of [the suggestions] for the most part are particularly Earth- shaking, but all summed up together we think they’ll make this building significantly better,” says Evey. Meanwhile, Congress has become a backer of the Pentagon renovation project. After imposing spending caps and refusing to adjust construction funding to account for inflation in the past, lawmakers following the attack pledged an additional $795 million to the renovation work, in addition to emergency rebuilding funds, so that the Pentagon can be completely restored by 2010. With those additional dollars, a better contracting strategy and safety upgrades, Evey may not be joking about his new motto for the Wedge 1 rebuilding: “It’s so much better the second time around.” ------------ Recap up to this point in the thread by me: The Pentagon had been undergoing renovations for two decades. Wedge 1 (with the reinforcements that were basically worthless in stopping the alleged 9/11 plane from smashing through multiple rings) took 3 years to almost complete by the British construction firm AMEC Inc. That same AMEC company, which took 3 years to get that shoddy work nearly done on Wedge 1 at a cost of $280 million, is then contracted to clean up the mess, rebuild Wedge 1 plus whatever was damaged in Wedge 2 and get both of those projects done [jointly with another mega-million dollar contractor, Hensel-Phelps Construction Co. of Greeley, Colo.] in approximately a year and a half -- the outer ring in 1 year -- with the cost of repairs alone expected to exceed $700 million in addition to other costs and bonus perks in the newfangled contracts. As the Pentagon Renovation Project began in 1993 near the start of Clinton's 1st term, AMEC was contracted for Wedge 1 renovations and reinforcement of it around 1998, and (as noted in the previous post) the $2.3 trillion in missing receipts were noticed near the end of Clinton's 2nd term, my guess is that some chunk of that missing money might have gone to AMEC for "cost overruns". Edited the bracketed insert in my recap note and for spacing. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
http://www.pageglance.com/aemc911.com That site is down with no cache preview available and no Wayback Machine copy either at wayback.archive.org It still appears in a websearch with reference to a Christopher Bollyn article on AMEC that was available on conspiracyplanet.com [Title: "AMEC Destroys Evidence in WTC Cleanup Scam"] but that's been shut down too with a Forbidden message. Now says: The website declined to show this webpage. However, a copy of that article is available at wayback.archive.org, so I'll print it out here but first this background from a poster at amazon.com Politics Forum: The British firm "Asset Management and Engineering Consultancy" (AMEC) "had just completed a project to strengthen and renovate a section of the Pentagon, Wedge 1, when the building was attacked" and "was paid some $752 million for its 2-year renovation and clean-up at the Pentagon", according to Christopher Bollyn of the American Free Press: http://www.americanfreepress.net/08_16_02/Foreign_Firms_Charged_/foreign_firms_c harged_.html AMEC claims to have completed Wedge One work the Friday before 9/11. They had only been contracted to perform the renovation work for Wedge One, the remainder being bid out to an American firm using a more efficient contract process. After 9/11, AMEC was retained to perform the cleanup as well as being one of three foreign owned firms out of four to perform WTC cleanup. AMEC also ran the barge operation to move debris to Fresh Kills. These WTC contracts were awarded by Rudolph Giuliani "before the dust had settled on Sept. 11" according to Bollyn. AMEC's CEO is Sir Peter Mason, and they run offshore oil platforms for Shell and BP. BP is now the owner of ARCO of which George HW Bush (Sr.) was a major shareholder. AMEC's British partner in the WTC cleanup was Bovis Lend Lease, run by Sir Frank Lampl, a Czechoslovakian immigrant to Britain, who somehow managed to become a British knight according to Bollyn's report. Former New York mayor Rudolph Giuliani was also knighted by Q[u]een Elizabeth II on Feb. 13, 2002, perhaps in recognition of all his services during the World Trade Center attacks and their aftermath. We've named the participants in the drama, but have failed to conclusively prove any wrongdoing... http://www.911-strike.com/siding-scam.htm ------------ My Note: I'm going to also suggest Bill Clinton as a likely participant because AMEC's work on what became the 9/11 Pentagon-impact site began in his administration. I suspect that AMEC was perhaps contracted then to purposely do substandard work that would not shield like it could have against damage to the multiple other rings. That would not be the 1st probable example of Clinton sabotaging our Military. He also majorly de-armored it through Gen. Shinseki for another example. I suspect too that the evidently ineffective AMEC "renovation" of the Wedge 1 strikezone might have been preparations indicating not only insider-foreknowledge of 9/11 but stagework-complicity at least as far back as Clinton's admin. Edited for spacing format. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Cross-referencing AMEC info at 4um Title: A Brief Summary: WTC Destruction & High Temperature Aftermath: ONLY Nuclear Bombs and the China Syndrome Fit All the Evidence http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=150858&Disp=49#C49 http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=150858&Disp=51#C51 http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=150858&Disp=54#C54 http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=150858&Disp=56#C56 http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=150858&Disp=57#C57 http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=150858&Disp=58#C58 Cross-referencing info at two more 4um threads possibly relevant to "The British Connection" angle of 9/11: Whiskey 105 4um Title: 9-11 Vans 'Splain This! - Post #19 On 9-11 there was a military refueling tanker in military airspace over Narragansett Rhode Island known as Whiskey 105. Again the commission did not do it's job of determining what other military aircraft were in that area, how many, when they arrived and why [sic] those military craft were not immediately sent to New York since they were already airborne? highlighted section reveals that Boston Center may have issued a No Pass Through Air Defense warning advising all aircraft to avoid military airspace, possibly Whiskey 105 as part of NORAD's Vigilant Guardian exercise. This is at least an indication that military aircraft were in fact using airspace in the Northeastern United States on the morning of 9-11. Instead of losing precious minutes ordering the Otis fighters to battle stations, then later ordering them to scramble, the fighters already airborne in the NE sector could have been used to intercept or at least utilized to help identify and locate the missing hijacked planes. Whiskey 386 4um Title: Pilots Analyze the Government Provided Radar Data of the Planes of 9-11 - Posts #131 and #129 http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=149864&Disp=131#C131 http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=149864&Disp=129#C129 ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
wayback.archive.org copy of Christopher Bollyn article that is unavailable at the sites noted in Post #9 above: Conspiracy Planet - 9-11 Unanswered Questions - AMEC Destroys Evidence in WTC Cleanup Scam by CHRISTOPHER BOLLYN Although the terror attacks of September 11 were clearly criminal acts of mass murder, no effort was made to preserve the integrity of the crime scenes and the essential evidence was disposed of like garbage. Former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani was made a Knight of the British Empire - after he hired two large British construction management firms - both headed by Knights of the British Empire, to oversee what many experts consider to be massive criminal destruction of evidence. DESTRUCTION OF EVIDENCE The editor-in-chief of Fire Engineering magazine, William A. Manning, issued an urgent call to action to America s firefighters at the end of 2001, calling for a forensic investigation and demanding that the steel from the site be preserved to allow investigators to determine what caused the collapse. Such destruction of evidence, he said, shows the astounding ignorance of government officials to the value of a thorough, scientific investigation of the largest fire-induced collapse in world history. For more than three months, structural steel from the World Trade Center has been and continues to be cut up and sold for scrap. Crucial evidence that could answer many questions about high-rise building design practices and performance under fire conditions is on the slow boat to China, Manning says, perhaps never to be seen again in America until you buy your next car. I have combed through our national standard for fire investigation, NFPA 921, but nowhere does one find an exemption allowing the destruction of evidence for buildings over 10 stories tall, Manning said. Clearly, there are burning questions that need answers. Based on the incident's magnitude alone, a full-throttle, fully resourced, forensic investigation is imperative. Three months later, the Science Committee of the House of Representatives reported that the WTC investigation was hampered by the destruction of crucial evidence. The committee report of March 6, 2002 says, Some of the critical pieces of steel were gone before the first [investigator] ever reached the site. The investigation Manning called for never happened, and never will, because the essential evidence is now destroyed: Valuable evidence has been lost irretrievably, Chairman of the Science Committee, Sherwood L. Boehlert (R-NY) said. The [FEMA-sponsored] building performance assessment currently being conducted of the World Trade Center is just that: an assessment, not an investigation, Prof. Glenn Corbett of John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York City told the Science Committee in March. Corbett had previously called the FEMA-led investigation uncoordinated and superficial. The World Trade Center disaster demands the most comprehensive detailed investigation possible. No event in our entire fire service history has ever come close to the magnitude of this incident, Corbett wrote in the January 2002 issue of Fire Engineering. You would think we would have the largest fire investigation in world history. You would be wrong, he wrote, We are literally treating the steel removed from the site like garbage, not like crucial fire scene evidence. WHO'S IN CHARGE? The New York Times was unable to find out who was behind the destruction of evidence. On Dec. 25, 2001, the Times reported, Officials in the mayor s office declined to reply to written and oral requests for comment over a three-day period about who decided to recycle the steel and the concern that the decision might be handicapping the investigation. I must say that the current investigation, some would argue that review is the more appropriate word, seems to be shrouded in excessive secrecy, Chairman Boehlert said. There are no clear lines of authority, he said, No one is in charge. Before the dust had settled on September 11, the mayor of New York City, Rudolph Giuliani, and Kenneth Holden of the city s Dept. of Design and Construction (DDC), contracted 4 major construction management companies to begin the removal of the debris from the World Trade Center. Three of the four major companies involved in the clean-up are foreign owned: AMEC, Bovis Lend Lease, both headquartered in London; and Turner, a subsidiary of Germany's Hochtief. Only Tully Construction of Flushing, New York, is a truly American-owned company. Peter Tully, president of the company, was, notably, the only person willing to speak openly with AFP about his work at the WTC site. The mayor s office and DDC called us on Sept. 11...I was there every day," Tully told AFP. "On the site we had at least three meetings a day with Ken Holden and Mike Burton [executive deputy commissioner of DDC]. The WTC site was initially divided into four quadrants and Tully Construction was assigned to Quadrant 3. Tully told AFP that his company had worked on the South Tower, WTC 4 and 5, and the 425,000 square foot underground retail mall. EVERYTHING WAS PULVERIZED Think of the thousands of file cabinets, computers, and telephones in those towers - I never saw one everything was pulverized, Tully said, Everything that was above grade above the 6th and 7th floor disintegrated it was like an explosion. Tully Construction specializes in concrete. AFP asked Tully if he had ever seen concrete pulverize as it did at the WTC. No never, he said. Tully said that there were hot spots where he observed literally molten steel. Asked about what could have caused such intense heat, Tully said, Think about the jet fuel. BRITISH MANAGEMENT The London-based firm AMEC, ranked by Engineering News Record magazine as the world s largest firm , oversaw the actual management of the debris removal at both the Pentagon and the WTC. AMEC was the only construction company working at both disaster sites, the company's website says, AMEC is managing Hudson River barging operations to transport the rubble from the entire WTC site to a landfill on Staten Island and to steel recycling operations in New Jersey. AMEC had just finished the renovation at the Pentagon when it was called to manage the removal of debris there and at the World Trade Center. AMEC was placed in charge [by the City of New York] of organizing and engineering the around-the-clock clean up operation in the northwest sector, the website says, which included the North Tower and 6 WTC (U.S. Customs House). The company also cleaned up the 47-story WTC 7, which mysteriously collapsed late in the afternoon of 911. AMEC co-managed the WTC site with another London-based firm, Bovis Lend Lease, from January 2002. Bovis was a somewhat troubled construction subsidiary of Britain s P&O, which was taken over by Australia s Lend Lease Corp in 1999. Sir Frank Lampl, a Czechoslovakian who emigrated to England at age 42, heads Bovis. Lampl, who claims to have been imprisoned in Auschwitz and Dachau during the Nazi era, is also a British knight. Mary Costello, spokesperson for Bovis in New York, told AFP that the company had assumed overall responsibility for the WTC site on Jan 4, 2002. She didn t want to discuss what buildings Bovis had worked on and said, You should not be contacting us. You should be speaking to DDC, Costello said. Calls to DDC public affairs department are neither answered nor returned. Turner Construction, the third foreign firm, is a wholly owned subsidiary of Hochtief AG, headquartered in Essen, Germany. Turner was unwilling to discuss its role at the WTC site. AMEC & THE PENTAGON AMEC is an informal acronym for Asset Management and Engineering Consultancy, according to the firm s communications director David Paterson. Paterson told AFP that oil and gas extraction provides 25 percent of the company s revenue. AMEC operates the North Sea oilrigs for Shell and British Petroleum, Paterson said. AMEC had just completed a project to strengthen and renovate a section of the Pentagon, Wedge 1, when the building was attacked. The damaged area is between Wedges 1 and 2. Marcella Diaz, communication director for the firm s U.S. subsidiary, AMEC Construction Management, told AFP that the company s work on the Pentagon had been completed on the Friday before Sept. 11. When AFP asked how AMEC responded to criticism that crucial evidence from the WTC had been improperly disposed of, Diaz said, "It's the first time I've heard such criticism." Paterson told AFP that AMEC is the prime contractor for the U.S. Department of Defense on environmental work. The firm was paid some $752 million for its 2-year renovation and clean up at the Pentagon, according to Rachel Decker, spokesperson for the Pentagon's renovation entity known as PENREN. The fact that a British firm had been given the contract to renovate the Pentagon was not a problem, Decker said. CITY OF NEW YORK Asked about who was in charge of the clean up at the WTC, Paterson said, The City of New York was the project manager. The director of DDC, Kenneth Holden, was the person in charge at the site, Paterson said. AMEC is in line for further construction work at both the Pentagon and the World Trade Center according to the Daily Mail. The company s London-based chief executive, Sir Peter Mason said about the Pentagon clean up, The target is to have it reopened for business by Sept. 11, 2003, as a point of principle. Sir Peter Mason is a Knight of the British Empire. The former mayor of New York, Rudolph Giuliani, who gave the management of the WTC site to the two British firms, AMEC and Bovis Lend Lease, received an honorary knighthood in the Order of the British Empire from Queen Elizabeth II on Feb. 13, 2002. When Giuliani was made a Knight of the British Empire, he joined an exclusive club, which includes George Bush the elder, Ronald Reagan, Colin Powell, Wesley Clark, Norman Schwartzkopf, and Steven Spielberg. Bush and Reagan are both knighted in the Order of the Bath. The British Knights Edited to correct article links. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
The immediate clean-up and sanitization of the crime scene is clear evidence of a MIHOP event.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken That site is down with no cache preview available and no Wayback Machine copy either at http://wayback.archive.org It still appears in a websearch with reference to a Christopher Bollyn article on AMEC that was available on http://conspiracyplanet.com [Title: "AMEC Destroys Evidence in WTC Cleanup Scam"] but that's been shut down too with a Forbidden message. Now says: The website declined to show this webpage. interesting The Knight of the Smoking Chimp.... AMEC's CEO is Sir Peter Mason, and they run offshore oil platforms for Shell and BP. BP is now the owner of ARCO of which [SIR!!] George HW Bush (Sr.) was a major shareholder. AMEC's British partner in the WTC cleanup was Bovis Lend Lease, run by Sir Frank Lampl, a Czechoslovakian immigrant to Britain, who somehow managed to become a British knight according to Bollyn's report. Former New York mayor Rudolph Giuliani was also knighted by Q[u]een Elizabeth II on Feb. 13, 2002, perhaps in recognition of all his services during the World Trade Center attacks and their aftermath..... I suspect too that the evidently ineffective AMEC "renovation" of the Wedge 1 strikezone might have been preparations indicating not only insider-foreknowledge of 9/11 but stagework-complicity at least as far back as Clinton's admin..... at least!! .... "...In the late 1930s, the British Israel World Federation Movement's Destiny Magazine published articles identifying September 2001 as the target date for beginning their planned global theocratic state -- a"Kingdom of Heaven on Earth.".... Jordan Maxwell presents the following ultra-high-resolution scans of the ORIGINAL ARTICLES so you can see for yourself what these people have been talking privately about for generations in their own publications...." http://www.cephas-library.com/british-israel-2.html A Little “Identity” Crisis ~ British Israelism The Greatest Hoax - Union Jack "....In this discourse we shall demonstrate the incredibility that the British Empire is the source of the world's agony and that it has disguised this fact to the millions of humanity that it controls. While the Empire has advanced what Americans understand as international Communism with increased momentum since World War II, it has for over one hundred years been preparing the people of America through their churches for what would appear as a spontaneous reaction to the threatened evil of a world Communist slave state. Through a long process of religious re-education, British propaganda (called British Israel in this context because of its self identity with Christianity) has solidified the thinking of the American people to an unshakeable Phariseeism which has led them to expect divine deliverance from Communism into the universal kingdom of God on earth. To recognize the gangster perpetrators of this stratagem all that is necessary is to recognize the veiled identity of the British Empire. It is given to us as the kingdom of God on earth. It is the kingdom of God British Empire that has sown world chaos in the name of Russian Communism. It is through the established conflict of Russian Communism versus the fiction of Christian Civilization that is planned to deceive the world into the most absolute tyranny under the sanctimonious pretense of God's kingdom on earth. Of course it seems ridiculous to suggest that the international villain is the British Empire to the American people, who have been told a million times over that the Empire is nigh extinction and only through the grace of Uncle Sam remains even a semblance of political and economic stability. Of course we Americans do not think in terms of Machiavellian power politics and therefore we cannot understand what we cannot see. We emphasize that the British Empire today is hidden beneath its pseudonym, kingdom of God on earth. Unless one can translate in his mind this fact he cannot be convinced of the yet universal power of the British Empire, nor recognize its propaganda. To make truth of the accusation that the British Empire is all powerful and is working intrigue through the spiritual deceit of a synthetic Christianity, we shall decode the meaning of the kingdom message propaganda that has swamped America like the black plague, completely oblivious to a people preoccupied with the decoy of Russian Communism. ..." http://www.sweetliberty.org/issu...ax/unionjack_prologue.htm "....It is certain that Senator Joseph McCarthy did much research on the Communist conspiracy. He came too close when he discovered British Israel and its Kingdom Message propaganda. The following quotes are from an article with the title: GEORGE WASHINGTON'S SURRENDER: "And many of the people of the land became Jews." Esther 9:17. "The confession of General Cornwallis to General Washington at Yorktown has been well hidden by historians. History books and text books have taught for years that when Cornwallis surrendered his army to General Washington that American independence came, and we lived happily ever after until the tribulations of the twentieth century." "Jonathan Williams recorded in his LEGIONS OF SATAN, 1781, that Cornwallis revealed to Washington that "a holy war will now begin on America, and when it is ended America will be supposedly the citadel of freedom, but her millions will unknowingly be loyal subjects to the Crown." Cornwallis went on to explain what would seem to be a self contradiction: "Your churches will be used to teach the Jew's religion and in less than two hundred years the whole nation will be working for divine world government. That government that they believe to be divine will be the British Empire. All religions will be permeated with Judaism without even being noticed by the masses, and they will all be under the invisible all-seeing eye of the Grand Architect of Freemasonry." And indeed George Washington himself was a Mason, and he gave back through a false religion what he had won with his army. "Cornwallis well knew that his military defeat was only the beginning of world catastrophe that would be universal and that unrest would continue until mind control could be accomplished through a false religion. What he predicted has come to pass. A brief sketch of American religious history and we have seen Masonry infused into every church in America With their veiled Phallic religion. ....." http://www.sweetliberty.org/issu...ax/unionjack_epilogue.htm KNIGHTHOOD Luke 16:13, "No servant can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one, And love the other; Or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon." KJV Knighthood Swearing the Oath: Crown: Upon which sword do you wish to swear your Oath? Candidate: Upon the sword of His Imperial Majesty. Knights In The News: It is commonly believed that United States citizens cannot receive from a foreign government noble honors such as a Knighthood. To show that this belief has no basis in law or practice, this is a listing of United States citizens (whether famous or not) who have appeared in the news because they have received Knighthoods. Our sources are newspapers, magazines, and journals..... http://apfn.org/apfn/knighthood.htm Sir Uncle Sam : Knight of the British Empire : John T. Whiteford ... The Pilgrim Society & English Speaking Union Now we see why they had to get rid of the original 13th Amendment. ....not just so the "lie-yers" and "judges" could administer their Babylonian Commercial Code, but so that not only blackmail and secret societies could govern the mouths of their cronies, but KNIGHTHOOD could direct their PRIDE, the downfall of their god Lucifer. The Real Thirteenth Constitutional Amendment The United States is still a British Colony (2) THE MISSING 13TH AMENDMENT So, when Victor Thorn and others say ISRAHELL DID 9/11, that is way too simplistic. They may have gleefully carried it out, along with their cronies in the US, but 9/11 was part of the plan [if only in its infancy] long before Israhell was created [by the Judeo-British Empire]. Death of the Phoenix: Final Act For the United States Of America http://watch.pair.com/death-phoenix.html not by a long shot: Psalm 2:6 : The Enduring Legacy of the First Landing/ www.wnd.com/2007/04/41327/ Thank you for all the great work you did on this thread. I am still reading it. "...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
AMEC's work at the Pentagon and the WTC prior to 9/11 also indicates that. Mobster involvement is evidently linked to AMEC too (see below info); as well as to another WTC contractor, Colonial Sand and Concrete. That cement company reportedly had an exclusive contract when the WTC was built and is owned by a mob-linked family from Italy named Pope, a member of which also owns the National Inquirer. Recall that the National Inquirer was involved after 9/11 in the Anthrax Attacks as an alleged target. More on that company in another post. Excerpts from: How & Why the World Trade Center fell on 9-11 - 1933key for Peace Privacy and Protection Several key factors provided opportunities to plant bombs in the World Trade Center buildings. Bomb-sniffing dogs were inexplicably removed from the Twin Towers five days before 9-11 The Twin Towers had been evacuated a number of times in the weeks preceding 9/11 Ben Fountain, a financial analyst who worked in the World Trade Center Complex, told People Magazine that in the weeks before 9/11 there were numerous unnanounced and unusual drills where sections of both the twin towers and building 7 were evacuated for quote 'security reasons'. There was a power blackout in the Twin Towers on the weekend before 9/11, security cameras were shut down, and many workers ran around busily doing things unobserved. And -- as an interesting coincidence -- a Bush-linked company ran security at the trade centers, thus giving it free reign to the buildings. These are just a few of the known, public examples of opportunities to plant bombs. There were undoubtedly many additional opportunities available to skilled operatives. AMEC PLC / AMEC Construction: Same general contractor for wiring construction inside WTC 7 and the Pentagon's reinforcement A judicial ruling to dismiss and limit complaints regarding damages of WTC 7, Salomon's (now Citigroup) Construction Defendants named AMEC PLC are public knowledge. Citigroup controlled portions of the first five and the top 20 floors of WTC 7. AMEC was in charge of wiring Citigroup's offices to diesel tanks throughout the building. This provided AMEC access to the entire infrastructure of WTC 7, for "back-up power", maintenance, surveys and anything else. AMEC is very same British construction company contracted to "reinforce" the wing of the Pentagon that was attacked on 9/11. MSNBC reported on September 28, 2001: [sic] Ties to the Crime families Agreements between the city and the Big Four, as well as with subcontractors, were handled on a pay-as-you-go basis. Without competitive bidding, the four managers picked whomever they wanted to get the job done. Of the $458 million in federal 9/11 aid spent on debris removal, AMEC got $65.8 million, Bovis $277.2 million, Tully $76 million and Turner $39 million. [...] Thacher Associates, Stier Anderson, Design Strategies and Getnick & Getnick were hired as monitors. In many cases, they discovered fraud and prevented losses. In other cases, investigators say, the mob and corrupt contractors raided the 9/11 money pot. AMEC CONSTRUCTION When London-based AMEC Construction showed up at Ground Zero as one of the Big Four hired to run the cleanup job, the firm's U.S. subsidiary already was ensnared in government corruption probes in Missouri and California. AMEC still got the 9/11 job. AMEC's No. 1 guy on the ground was Vice President Leo DiRubbo, a reputed associate of the Luchese crime family. [...] AMEC hired Big Apple Wrecking, owned by Harold Greenberg, a reputed mob associate whose firm was barred from government work because of his convictions in bid-rigging and bribery conspiracies. AMEC also hired Mazzocchi Wrecking. A few months after 9/11, the N.J. Division of Gaming Enforcement charged that three members of the DeCavalcante crime family worked for Mazzocchi. In the middle of the 9/11 job, owners of the AMEC-hired subcontractor Peter Scalamandre & Sons, of Freeport, pleaded guilty to laundering $1 million through subcontractors. Prosecutors charged that some cash wound up in the hands of the Luchese crime family. [...] AMEC hired Breeze National, a Brooklyn demolition firm owned by Toby Romano, a reputed Luchese family associate convicted in 1988 of bribing inspectors to overlook health violations on asbestos-removal jobs. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Still have more info to archive here. Thanks for reading and for your contributions on the subject here and elsewhere. Your research work on AMEC and a post by wudidiz have been instrumental in this investigation. On a sidenote, I read at a source during the Petraeus discussions that he was recently knighted too by Holland. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Excerpts from Post #11: Three of the four major companies involved in the clean-up are foreign owned: AMEC, Bovis Lend Lease, both headquartered in London; and Turner, a subsidiary of Germany's Hochtief. Only Tully Construction of Flushing, New York, is a truly American-owned company. Peter Tully, president of the company, was, notably, the only person willing to speak openly with AFP about his work at the WTC site. [sic] The WTC site was initially divided into four quadrants and Tully Construction was assigned to Quadrant 3. Tully told AFP that his company had worked on the South Tower, WTC 4 and 5, and the 425,000 square foot underground retail mall. EVERYTHING WAS PULVERIZED Think of the thousands of file cabinets, computers, and telephones in those towers - I never saw one everything was pulverized, Tully said, Everything that was above grade above the 6th and 7th floor disintegrated it was like an explosion. Tully Construction specializes in concrete. AFP asked Tully if he had ever seen concrete pulverize as it did at the WTC. No never, he said. This is a recommended talkshoe.com broadcast of a LetsRollForums discussion that's listed on the sidebar of my YouTube Playlist, 9/11 Hollow Towers and Art Students at the WTC. The program is almost 2 hours long, starts around the 5 minute mark, advocates the position of conventional controlled demolitions only at the WTC on 9/11 but also expresses some concerns about Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth. Among the many points of WTC interest, there is a discussion (that begins at the 0:35:19 mark and continues through 0:56:00) about the mob-linked Colonial Sand and Concrete company which reportedly had an exclusive concrete/cement-work contract for the construction of the World Trade Center. Description and related info from the sidebar of the above mentioned Playlist: http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp? masterId=121551&cmd=tc PRESS RELEASE: World Trade Center Occupancy FOIA PANYNJ * 1972-2001 -- Let's Roll Forums philjayhan.wordpress.com/2011/01/21/press-release...occupancy-foia-panynj-1972- 2001... Comment excerpts from: The Hollow Twins Theory - Pilots For 9-11 Truth Forum is there any footage of the masses of people that should have been fleeing from the towers? I can't remember seeing any. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Title [at talkshoe.com]: 911 & Hollow Towers w/Tom Della Latta Della Latta a no-show. Discussion with Phil Jayhan and Yankee451/Steve starts around the 5 min. mark. Topics: WTC Architect Minoru Yamasaki, bin Laden connection with Yamasaki, Empire State Building lawsuit claiming WTC unsafe, Mafioso Colonial Sand and Concrete Company/Pope family that also owns the National Enquirer [Ref. Anthrax Attacks]. More. http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp? masterId=121551&cmd=tc A discussion of the Firemen and alleged Firemen at the WTC on 9/11 starts at 1:31:11. At 1:39:11 to 1:40:23 there is some discussion of the problems or alleged problems with their Motorola radios. Related AMEC info at http://www.newsfollowup.com/flight77_25.htm: Pentagon missile attack 9/11? -> F77 home -> Pg. 25 http://www.spectrocan.com/english Part of AFMS is SPECTROCAN, which is a member of the International Telecommunication Union, concentrating on monitoring the radio spectrum for governments and regulatory agencies around the world. AFMS is a very popular akronym, therefore easy to be confused. (i.e. Air Force Manpower Standard, Automatic Flight Management System, Automated forms System etc...) The AMEC-AFMS was also involved in the analysis of the malfunction of handheld radios which complicated the rescue efforts of firefighters at the World Trade Center. It has been reported that an evacuation order broadcast by Fire Chief Joseph Callan was not received by some of the firefighters. http://www.rfcomm.harris.com/jtrs/mit.html In an analysis by Prof. Donald A Lund from April 2002, Lund came to the conclusion, that currently "there is a lack of available radio frequencies for emergency responders and public safety officials to use. As a result, existing frequency spectrums are crowded." It would be interesting to hear the conclusion from AMEC/AFMS. Currently are conflicting reports around, if maybe the GE-Ericsson 800 megahertz radio system should be standardized nationwide for emergency cases. Edit to add: More info at the newsfollowup.com link on AMEC and also on it's likewise-British partner in the WTC clean-up, Bovis Lend Lease. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Referencing newsmine.org cited at Posts #1 and #8 Re: Hensel-Phelps Construction Co. of Greeley, Colo. [Also spelled there as Hansel-Phelps] Excerpts: Three days after the attack, Pentagon renovation officials made it clear they would continue the project while rebuilding. They awarded Hensel-Phelps, a Colorado-based construction firm, the first installment of a $758 million contract to renovate the remaining 4 million square feet (Wedges 2 to 5) by 2014. Originally, the contract was to be awarded Sept. 11. Hensel-Phelps and the Wedge 1 contractor, AMEC, agreed to jointly rebuild Wedge 1 and the damaged portion of Wedge 2. The repair costs could top $700 million. the Pentagon renovation project is now using design-build contracts Tom Schwieger, operations manager for Hansel-Phelps, says the design- build contract has been even more valuable in light of Sept. 11. Hansel- Phelps, poised to win the Pentagon renovation contract well before the attacks, expected to begin work on 1 million square feet of space in Wedge 2 by Dec. 1, 2001. However, only about 300,000 square feet of that space was ready for renovation in December because some had been destroyed and the rest was needed to house workers displaced from Wedge 1 by damage from the attack. Schwieger says the contract gives the flexibility to begin renovating some of the space and to delay rebuilding the rest. Under the old contracting methods, he says, making any changes to the original plan would have taken months, because it would have required modifying the contract. “Now, everything does not have to be suggested, bid and approved,” he adds. Sullivan says that allowing contractors to offer designs plans can lead to better use of building space. For example, the Pentagon’s original renovation plans called for modular furniture that needed to be taken apart to be moved. Hensel-Phelps came up with reconfigured office plans including freestanding furniture and better placement of lighting and utilities wires. This is a side issue but while I was watching this YouTube of Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Theory show about the 2012 hype (Season 1, Episode 7), I noticed at the end that Hensel Phelps was listed first in a long list of contractors (at the 41:55 mark) who refused to speak to him about underground bunkers beneath Denver International Airport. Starting at the 39:22 mark, probable tunnel structures were shown at the site of ongoing construction work and excavations there: That program also investigates our old missle silos being converted to survival-condo bunkers for wealthy civilians. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
[sic] http://www.911-strike.com/siding-scam.htm Excerpts from: The Five-Sided Fantasy Island http://www.mdw.army.mil/news/Belvoir_firefighter_among_first_responders.html "We were one of the very first ones there," Dodge said, "aside from the crew that was already positioned at the Pentagon. So, I was doing a quick size-up of the situation to see all that was taking place." "At that point, I took the line and concentrated on getting out the fires on the outside of the building," Dodge said. "There were two vehicles burning, along with a construction trailer — we didn't know at the time, but that trailer was the main producer of smoke on the outside of the building — and the foam truck [Myer's helipad crash unit]." Dodge he had learned from the fire chief who responded to the the Murrah Federal Building bombing that outside fires there prevented emergency teams from getting to the heart of the building. "Once I had [the outside fires] pretty much knocked down, then I went into the area of the first floor where all the fire was, and just trying to get on that," he said. "It was something to fight with, until we got the other foam trucks there." He said the foam units got there and concentrated on the area of the construction trailer, which was producing some severe fires and subsequent mini explosions due to highly flammable chemicals in it, then on the actual point of impact from the hijacked aircraft. "Luckily the chemical containers were caged," he said. "Otherwise the fires would have been worse. [sic] Perhaps combustible paints, fuels or welding materials were stored in the trailers. [sic] If the various anomalies are taken to indicate that no 757 hit the Pentagon, there are a variety of reasons to believe that pyrotechnics (Hollywood "special effects") were responsible for the damage, rather than an "attack plane". [sic] Leftmost contractor's trailer was largest source of fire outside of the building. British AMEC has first Wedge only renovation contract. AMEC completes contract on prior Friday (ostensibly 9/11 is 5 days before re- occupancy), conveniently gets cleanup contract due to on site presence. AMEC contracts for BP and Shell offshore oil platforms, BP now owns ARCO of which GHWB was reputed a major shareholder. AMEC was one of 4 companies to run the WTC cleanup and they ran the barge operation. Flight 77 missing from transportation agency database for 9/11, other anomalies noted. Also at the amazon.com Politics Forum cited above: Daughter of 9/11 Pilot Found Dead After Fire 911disclosure.blogspot.com: Can Hunter test for AMEC arson at Pentagon, Pendleton? Open e-mail sent October 24, 2007 to: Edited to expand excerpts from the 911-strike.com link. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Once the missiles were decommissioned and the sites had no strategic use, they were put up for sale. Prices were all over the board depending on the condition of the silos, amenities (or lack thereof), and the acreage that went with the silo. My problem was that I couldn't convince Mrs.L to move to BF, Nowhere to live. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken Conspiracy Planet - 9-11 Unanswered Questions - AMEC Destroys Evidence in WTC Cleanup Scam by CHRISTOPHER BOLLYN http://www.pageglance.com/aemc911.c om The pageglance.com site is still unavailable but the Bollyn article, "AMEC Destroys Evidence in WTC Cleanup Scam", is now available again at the conspiracyplanet.com site: www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=112&contentid=564&page=1 www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=112&contentid=564&page=2 This is a Bollyn article at his site that is very similar but not identical: ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Ghouliani gave the order, AMEC just executed it.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken That privitazation seems to happen a lot with projects that taxpayers have financed. My problem was that I couldn't convince Mrs.L to move to BF, Nowhere to live. Sounded pricey to me in the video. One was in the middle of Kansas and looked to be in very poor condition but I didn't get the impression that it was being sold at a discount because of that. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
This started under Krintoon and the first that I learned of it was back on FR, which tells us how long it's been going on. Of course, US got to pay for it, but I'm glad to see the sites back in private ownership. I'll watch the video for an update: we've seen at least two of the re-done silos on HGTV, the new owners put a ton of money into their new homes. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken Posted at AMEC's site on 16 September 2002 - not to be confused with the US Air Force: The award will be presented to Mr. Gillibrand during a ceremony at the 2002 AFA National Convention, 15-18 September 2002 at the Marriott Wardman Park Hotel, Washington, DC. In inviting Mr. Gillibrand to accept the award, AFA National President John J. Politi saluted AMEC as an “industrial leader that has contributed most significantly to national defense” and cited the company’s “outstanding industrial leadership while renovating and rebuilding the Pentagon after the September 11th terrorist attack.” On September 11 2001, AMEC was in the final stages of a major renovation and hardening project at the Pentagon that included a portion of the building that was struck by the hijacked airplane. In the renovation of the Pentagon’s Wedge 1, AMEC implemented a building hardening system that included floor-to-ceiling steel reinforcing beams and walls lined with strong fibrous Kevlar-like material similar to that found in bulletproof vests. Whilst, blast-resistant glass, nearly two inches thick, was also installed in the windows. “Had it not been for that, you would have had a much larger collapse and perhaps many more casualties,” Lee Evey, Manager of the Pentagon Renovation project, said at a Department of Defense news briefing days after Sept. 11. After the terrorist attacks, crews from AMEC worked around-the-clock, seven days a week, completing the demolition and the removal of the damaged structure in one month, half the time of initial expectations. AMEC also played a leadership role in the Pentagon’s successful Phoenix Project, the primary goal of which was to re-build the Pentagon and have employees return to the offices destroyed by the anniversary of the attacks. This goal was met a month ahead of schedule. The AFA award, named after a former World War II flying ace, is the latest in a series of commendations AMEC has earned for its role at the Pentagon. AMEC's work was cited in the US Congressional Record on March 19, 2002, and a Congressional House Resolution has been passed "commending the great work that the Pentagon Renovation Program and its contractors have completed thus far, in reconstructing the portion of the Pentagon that was destroyed by the terrorist attack of September 11, 2001". In addition to its special role at the Pentagon, AMEC also had a leadership role in managing the rescue, recovery and cleanup activities at the World Trade Center. AMEC was the only company with such key responsibilities at both disaster sites. About AFA About AMEC AMEC owns 46 per cent of SPIE S.A., the international electrical engineering, infrastructure and construction services company based in France, and has an option to buy the balance of SPIE in 2002. Together, AMEC and SPIE employ 50,000 people in close to 50 countries and have annualised revenue approaching US$ 8 billion. Noting here again AMEC's disasterous, so-called "reinforcement" of the Pentagon strikezone. Edited for grammar. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
That brings us back to Post #14: Ties to the Crime families On that subject at the WTC, am recommending Part 4 of Kevin Ryan's extensive, book-length research, "Demolition Access to the WTC Towers: Part Four - Cleanup". Haven't read the other sections (or even all of that one thoroughly yet) but what I've seen of it there is very informative. Ex: The five construction companies hired other sub-contractors to complete most of the actual debris removal. Most of the sub-contractors hired were suspected of being associated with organized crime. [sic] Of the other primary contractors, Tishman Construction Corporation oversaw the construction of the new WTC 7, as well as the "Freedom Tower." [sic] Once the cleanup was fully coordinated, the operations were consolidated under the control of two of the five primary contractors: AMEC Construction Management and Bovis Lend Lease. These are the two companies that were originally assigned the areas of Ground Zero that included the north tower (AMEC) and the south tower (Bovis). [sic] Executives and board members at AMEC include former directors of NM Rothschild, Kellogg, Brown and Root (now Halliburton), and SG Warburg. [sic] Bovis' representatives in charge of the WTC site were Jim Abadie and his assistant Charlie Vitchers. [sic] Years later, Abadie was also in charge of the Deutsche Bank demolition and the September 11th memorial before he resigned in the midst of an investigation into billing and payroll practices at five Bovis projects in New York, including the memorial and Deutsche Bank. 92 [sic] Also involved in the Deutsche Bank demolition was Charles Schwab, an associate of Harold Greenberg, who "once controlled seven banks, a casino in Reno and a big chunk of Hilton Head Island [and] the largest demolition company in the country." 95 Schwab was also associated with Phoenix Wrecking, a demolition and abatement company. It's not clear if this is the same company as the Phoenix Fireproofing listed in FOIA-obtained documents related to the WTC fireproofing upgrades. 96 But it is clear that mayor Bloomberg's office and the Lower Manhattan Development Corporation (LMDC) were aware of the suspicious companies involved in the Deutsche Bank fiasco. 97 LMDC was mandated to "alleviate existing conditions that pose a serious and immediate threat to the health or welfare of New York City or meet community development needs resulting from Sept. 11, 2001." In practice, this meant that LMDC made a lot of the decisions about what happened at Ground Zero after the cleanup and perhaps even before it was completed. LMDC was created by Governor Pataki and Mayor Giuliani without approval from the state legislature, in November 2001. 98 They appointed as chairman John C. Whitehead, the former Deputy Secretary of State under George Shultz. Whitehead was formerly chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, an organization that has more recently played an integral role in the bailout of large institutions like AIG and has been referred to as "a black-ops outfit for the nation's central bank." 99 Whitehead was also a member of The Pilgrims Society, a British-American association. Other members of The Pilgrims Society have included some of the most powerful un-elected officials in history, like Shultz, several Rockefellers, James Baker, and Henry Kissinger. Much more there on organized crime, Giuliani, NYPD Commissioner Bernard Kerik, et al. The newsfollowup.com link posted previously shows that Bovis Lend Lease, like AMEC, "had also worked for the Pentagon before. They built the Pentagon City Mall, Pentagon City's Washington Tower office building and The Ritz-Carlton hotel in 1990." And also like AMEC, it too is partnered with Big Oil: "British Petroleum (BP) 'Global Alliance'". Edited sentence one to cite the title of Kevin Ryan's WTC research- series and link to it at 911review.com. Additionally, am noting this info on Bovis Lend Lease at the newsfollowup.com link, as it could possibly be of some relevance to the Anthrax Acts of War after 9/11 and other such contrived menacings: ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
This is a source for Part 4 of Kevin Ryan's series in Scribd-type format: DEMOLITION ACCESS TO THE WTC PART IV – THE CLEAN-UP Other sources for access to the entire series: deeppoliticsforum.com, which links to an Introductory page at 911review.com by Don Paul on the various parts of the research and then provides a text-Table of Contents below it: Demolition Access To The WTC Towers Contents: Part One - Tenants The North Tower Impact Zone Part Two - Security Electronic Systems Associates and E.J. Electric Part Three - Convergence The Carlyle Group Part Four - Cleanup Foreknowledge The 911review.com link to the Introductory page by Don Paul (with commentary, summaries of the categories and a sidebar section on the right that contains active links for the Table of Contents printed above) is titled: Good Riddance to the Big Lie: Kevin Ryan's 'Demolition Access ...' Lights the Shadows An Introduction to the 4-Part Investigative Series by Kevin Ryan It is not currently "Also available with embedded videos at: PupetGov.com"/http://www.puppetgov.com/2010/02/22/good-riddance-to-the-big-lie- kevin-ryans-demolition-access-lights-the-shadows/ Later, I'll post two videos that I found on the subject of Ryan's research. These are excerpts from the Don Paul commentary/summary: We can thank Kevin Ryan for much heavy-lifting of Corporate Government blocks against our understanding and possibilities. We can appreciate his courage, clarity, compassion, humor, and then we can appreciate his courage again. We can thank his family's steadfastness too. Over six years ago Kevin Ryan lost his job at Underwriter Laboratories for publicly insisting that executives in that Corporation and in the United States Department of Commerce's National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) not lie about tests' findings as to the resistance against fire of Twin Towers' structural steel. He continued on his truth-telling course. He joined with Steven Jones in proving thermitic reactions in the steel and dust of debris from the Twin Towers' explosions. [115] Imo, his truth-telling course took a wrong turn when he aligned with Steven Jones and that's where I diverge with him. Even so, I'll post the two above mentioned videos anyway, after some more excerpts from the 911review.com page for Demolition Access to the WTC Towers: Part Four - Cleanup Who were these high-level people in government gathering in the lobby of the north tower, that had information others did not have? Reports are that this group included Richard Sheirer, the director of the OEM. It was said that -- "He's the guy Giuliani calls the man behind the curtain." 23 Others suggested: "Since September 11, Sheirer has taken charge of the biggest cleanup effort in American history." Whether or not he helped with the cleanup, Sheirer did have significant responsibility in his role, having at various times "briefed President Bush, Tony Blair, and Henry Kissinger". 24 [sic] To some degree, Sheirer was officially portrayed as incompetent. John Farmer, 9/11 Commission staff member, said of Sheirer: "We [the 9/11 Commission] tried to get a sense of what Sheirer was really doing. We tried to figure it out from the videos. We couldn't tell. Everybody from OEM was with him, virtually the whole chain of command. Some of them should have been at the command center." Fire Captain Kevin Culley, who worked at OEM, later was asked why most of the OEM's top brass were with him at the scene of the incident, and he said: "I don't know what they were doing. It was Sheirer's decision to go there on his own. The command center would normally be the focus of a major event and that would be where I would expect the director to be."27 Sheirer now works at Giuliani's firm, Giuliani Partners, along with Pasquale J. (Pat) D'Amuro, the FBI agent who ran the PENTTBOM investigation and stole evidence from Ground Zero (see below), and Michael D. Hess, who was present in WTC7 with explosive witness Barry Jennings. Bernard Kerik worked at Giuliani Partners as well, from the time he left his Police Commissioner post in December 2001 until resigning from the firm in December 2004. While he worked at Giuiliani's firm, Kerik took a short leave when he was appointed by George W. Bush to be Minister of the Interior for Iraq and Senior Policy Advisor to L. Paul Bremer, then the Iraq Occupation Governor. In Iraq, Kerik was assigned to oversee the training of the Iraqi Police by contractor Dyncorp. [sic] Despite failing to follow-up on any of the leads that could have prevented the attacks of 9/11, D'Amuro was placed in charge of the miraculous PENTTBOM investigation just after those attacks. 108 PENTTBOM was miraculous not only for its name, which stood for Pentagon/Twin Towers Bombing (yes, bombing), but also for the rapidity in which the case was solved. That is, although US authorities claimed to have had no knowledge of or ability to stop the 9/11 attacks, the FBI was able to identify all nineteen alleged hijackers within 72 hours. 109 To date, no connections have been established between the nineteen alleged hijackers and people who had the means and opportunity to place explosives in the WTC buildings. However, there are some interesting links between the alleged conspirators and those who were involved in the cover-up investigations. Much more info at that site. Edited for highlighting. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Of course, US got to pay for it, but I'm glad to see the sites back in private ownership. I'll watch the video for an update: we've seen at least two of the re-done silos on HGTV, the new owners put a ton of money into their new homes. Clinton also wrongfully put many places under U.N. control as "Heritage Sites" and whatnot. Might the silos or some of them have been so classified too? Could be that Americans are footing the bill for the silos again in Historical grant- money for refurbishing. I suspect that might be about all that's been transferred to the general public for what sounds similarly to me to publicly- owned, gov-guarded properties turned into an "eminent domain" grab of sorts by private, corporate-profiteering interests. Reminds me quite a bit of other such discussions here, I must say. Please do keep us updated on that situation when you can, thanks. While I'm here, am going to post info from two more sites on AMEC. The second site reports that even our Pentagon was declared a historic building in 1992; likely that was a Clinton move too: telegraph.co.uk: Pentagon offers Amec rebuilding contract By Nina Montagu-Smith and Philip Aldrick The group built "Wedge Five" [My note: "Wedge One" Typo?] of the Pentagon, which is home to the US Department of Defense, and it already has security clearance to the site, a spokesman for Amec said yesterday. [sic] Rudolf Giuliani, the mayor of New York, also called Amec within minutes of Tuesday's terrorist attacks on the World Trade Centre to help with the rescue effort in lower Manhattan. Staff were on the scene with heavy machinery within two hours of the towers collapsing, the company said last week. About 200 employees are now helping to coordinate the rescue effort and to plan the clean-up operation. Amec is just one member of a group, including fellow British construction company Bovis, brought together by the Department of Emergency Services for the City of New York. The group of companies searching for forensic evidence as well. bdcnetwork.com [Building Design + Construction]: Pentagon wedges will be rebuilt Pentagon Renovation Program officials awarded AMEC a $520 million cost-plus-fee contract for the emergency repair, restoration and reconstruction. AMEC also is in charge of the six- to eight-week-long demolition. Renovation officials plan to reconstruct much of the damaged area within a year. "It's very ambitious," says Tom Fontana, Pentagon Renovation Program spokes-person. "Our goal is to rebuild the E ring by next Sept. 11." Upon completion, AMEC will turn over the area for tenant fit-out to Greeley, Colo.-based Hensel Phelps Construction Co., which heads up the design/build team that was awarded a contract worth up to $758 million for renovation of wedges 2 through 5. While new materials will be used to rebuild the damaged areas, the reconstruction must conform to historic building requirements. As the Pentagon was declared a historic building in 1992, renovation officials are working with the National Capital Planning Commission and other organizations to preserve the building's historic features. Preservation of the building's limestone façade is emphasized in the reconstruction. Some of the limestone salvaged from the exterior of Wedge 1 will be cleaned and used in the reconstruction. An Indiana quarry adjacent to the one from which the original limestone came will supply the new limestone used on the exterior, says Fontana. An airborne laser radar system that allows the creation of 3-D renderings of buildings is being used to size the limestone. Implemented by Toronto-based Optech under the supervision of the Army's Joint Precision Strike Demonstration Office, the technology makes it possible to accurately replace the razed and obliterated areas of the building. Edited to correct first link. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Fire Chief Joseph Pfeifer, who was at the command post in the lobby of the North Tower, testified that -- "Right before the South Tower collapsed, I noticed a lot of people just left the lobby, and I heard we had a crew of all different people, high-level people in government, everybody was gone, almost like they had information that we didn't have." 22 Who were these high-level people in government gathering in the lobby of the north tower, that had information others did not have? Not the same timeframe but reminds me more than a bit of this 4-min. video: Uploaded by america20xy on Sep 14, 2009 During the 9/11 Truth protests at Ground Zero on 9/11/09, a Brooklyn man recounts how he saw black SUVs with flashing lights fleeing New York an hour before first plane hit on 9/11. Sheirer now works at Giuliani's firm, Giuliani Partners, along with Pasquale J. (Pat) D'Amuro, the FBI agent who ran the PENTTBOM investigation and stole evidence from Ground Zero (see below), and Michael D. Hess, who was present in WTC7 with explosive witness Barry Jennings. I think that's referring to the Mr. Hess in this next short video -- less than 3-mins. Turn down the volume for the first 23 seconds: Uploaded by TheMKMonarch on Mar 27, 2011 0:51 - Michael Hess, New York's Corporation Counsel, cries for help from 8th floor, northeast corner of WTC7. NIST FOIA 09-42, Release #25. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Too bad you mix facts with disinfo. You've already destroyed any credibility you had in terms of this subject, thus, I can't realistically believe this report. Perhaps that was your intention all along. Demolition Access to the WTC Towers Part Four - Cleanup Another company that was "all over ground zero" was Laquila Construction, run by mob boss Dino Tomassetti. 81 It's not clear if Richard Tomasetti is related to Dino Tomassetti or his family, although the surnames are often interchangeable. The name Tomasetti (or Tomassetti) comes from L'Aquila, Italy, hence the company name. [sic] At Ground Zero, DDC [the New York City Department of Design and Construction] handed over the most important of its decision-making responsibility to LZA/Thornton-Tomasetti, whose leaders were Charles Thornton, later a member of the advisory board for the NIST WTC investigation, and Richard Tomasetti. The fact that LZA/Thornton-Tomasetti was really in charge became clear when someone needed to take responsibility for the decision to recycle all the steel evidence. It was finally said that Richard Tomasetti made that decision, despite the outrage from the public, fire engineering experts and the victim's family members. When asked why he did it, Tomasetti claimed that -- "had he known the direction that investigations into the collapses would take, he would have taken a different stand." 74 The recycling of the most important steel evidence was done in a hurry, as indicated by the US House Committee on Science report mentioned earlier. It was done so fast, in fact, that the City took much less than market value for the scrap metal. At the time, steel scrap was selling for $150 per ton, but those in charge of the WTC cleanup took just $120 per ton for the WTC steel. 75 It's not difficult to see that the $9 million lost in that transaction would have been useful to the many 9/11 first responders who have since become sick and are dying from their exposure to toxins at Ground Zero. Tomasetti's extremely unpopular, and probably criminal, decision was supported by the new mayor of NYC, Michael Bloomberg. 9-11 Israel’s Masterpiece - Lost Scribe Media Alan Ratner was able to “purchase” the incinerated remains of humans mixed with the pulverized dust and mangled steel from the towers at $70 a ton and sold 50,000 tons for over 80% profit to China at $120 a ton. Ratner further subcontracted the collection of the remains to yet another Israeli, Yoram Shalmon of PowerLoc Technologies. Shalmon sent a fleet of about 200 trucks to ground zero to gather the remains and bring them to Ratner’s metal management scrapyard. Suspiciously fearful of evidence accidentally falling off the trucks, Shalmon had the trucks equipped with his $1000 VLD (vehicle location device) GPS tracking system and watched religiously from a control room in real time. When one of the truck drivers took a little too long at lunch on his way to the scrapyard, he was fired by the paranoid Shalmon. In an interview with Jacqueline Emigh of securitysolutions.org he revealed his thoughts: Why would “highly sensitive material” evidence from the worst terrorist act on American soil be sent to China to be destroyed? Destruction of Crime Scene Evidence and Obstruction of Justice: Giuliani, Bloomberg, DDC [the New York City Department of Design and Construction], LZA/Thornton-Tomasetti -- all those noted above as involved, et al. These are the two aforementioned videos at Post #27 on Kevin Ryan's research: 9/11 TRUTH: Kevin Ryan Exposes Access for Demolition Crews to WTC Buildings -- 16 mins. 9 years after the attacks we are finally zeroing in on the people responsible. Demolition Access to the WTC Towers Part Four - Cleanup 9/11 Suspects - Explosive Connections (Updated Fixed and Revised) -- 16.5 mins. Most of the material for this video was adapted from Kevin Ryan's landmark article on who had "Demolition access to the WTC Towers" [More info in the Description Section] Comment at beyondpoliticsand911.com: "You can explode cement into small pieces with CD [Controlled Demolition], but how do you turn cement into such fine dust that it floats off into space?" Edited to expand excerpts and for formatting. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Freedom In The Workplace: The Untold Story Of Merit Shop Construction's Crusade Against Compulsory Trade Unionism ABC=Associated Builders and Contractors - Ch. 2, pg. 13; a FEMA partner - Ch. 15, pg. 182 Chapter 15: Dedicated Community Service, pgs. 179-192 AMEC, et al. Pentagon and 9/11 contractors/subcontractors - info begins at Ch. 15, pgs. 185-189 Renovation to Revolution: Was the Pentagon Attacked from Within? The [PenRen/Pentagon Renovation Project] work began in 1993 with the construction of a power plant and then moved on to the basement levels of the building where the new National Military Command Center (NMCC) was being built. Much info there on AMEC and more. Edited for spelling, highlighting and to add: AMEC acquires stake in multi-billion dollar Brazilian oil and gas market (15921775) Sep 19, 2012 – (Source: AMEC plc) 19 September 2012 London, United Kingdom (19 September 2012) ... GE oil and gas unit wins $1.1B contract in Brazil ... Combining KROMAV's local reputation and engineering expertise with AMEC's international major project delivery capability, which includes 50 global FPSO projects, will support AMEC's Vision 2015 strategy to develop fully integrated service capabilities in Brazil. The company will be called AMEC KROMAV. This investment in Brazil is one of our foundations to delivering Vision 2015 in the oil and gas market and we are proud to associate ourselves with the technical expertise of KROMAV," said Simon Naylor, President of AMEC's Natural Resources Americas business. Another excerpt from Renovation to Revolution: Was the Pentagon Attacked from Within?: Although cordite is a low explosive, it was not likely to have been present since its use is long-outdated. Today, it is a cliché to talk of the smell of cordite when one is referring to something with an aroma like that of explosives. Cordite was used initially in the .303 British, Mark I and II, standard rifle cartridge between 1891 and 1915; however, shortages of cordite in World War I led to United States–developed smokeless powders being imported into the UK for use in rifle cartridges. [sic] Cordite was also used in the detonation system of the Little Boy atomic bomb dropped over Hiroshima in August 1945. The term cordite generally disappeared from official publications between the wars. [sic] In honour of the military uses of cordite, the Royal Military College of Canada's mechanical engineering department built a ship and named it cordite for use in thermodynamic research. BBC - Radio 4 Making History - Conkers in the war Sue Cook presents the series that examines listeners' historical queries, exploring avenues of research and uncovering mysteries. Listener's query 'Collecting groups are being organised in your district. Groups of scholars & boy scouts are being organised to collect conkers. Receiving depots are being opened in most districts. All schools, W.V.S. centres, W.I.s, are involved. Boy Scout leaders will advise you of the nearest depot where 7/6 per cwt is being paid for immediate delivery of the chestnuts (without the outer green husks). This collection is invaluable war work and is very urgent. Please encourage it.' I am very curious about this urgent need for conkers. Can you throw some light on it?" Brief summary It is said that because so many conkers were collected around the country there were transport problems and piles of rotting conkers were left at railway stations. The King's Lynn factory began production in April 1918 and closed a few months later - conkers were found to be a poor source, though they were collected again in World War Two for the same reason. Lloyd George's gratitude to Weizman was such that it led directly to the controversial 1917 Balfour Declaration which set out British approval for the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people - the state of Israel. Edited again to include info from the BBC Radio link + bracketed insert for reference. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
How quaint. And, the renovation work was so solid that the wings and multi ton engines folded up like a bird's wings against the body as the plane passed through a penetration made by the soft aluminum nose and delicate avionics equipment up front. Jesus we Americans are stupid. There must be something in the water, and the schools, and TV and Madison Ave/Tavistock mind control methods, etc.,.
from Portland Independent Media:
portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/06/341768.shtml
www.911whodidit.com/index.php/pentagon/pentagon-official- surveillance-video ("On Sept. 11, Pentagon construction crews were doing final, touch- up work on the first wedge after more than three years of renovation. Some Defense employees already were moving into new office spaces. "We were down to checking the marble [floor] tile for cracks," says David Kersey, project manager for British construction firm AMEC Inc., which held a $280 million contract for the Wedge 1 renovation. Fewer than 100 AMEC workers and subcontractors were onsite, while a new construction team, led by Hensel-Phelps Construction Co. of Greeley, Colo., was setting up shop to begin the next round of renovations." Click for [newsmine.org] Reference.)
Lee Evey, program manager for the Pentagon renovation project, says that if the building had not been under repair, there could have been 10,000 Defense employees in Wedges 1 and 2.
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David Kersey, project manager for British construction firm AMEC Inc., which held a $280 million contract for the Wedge 1 renovation
eclassroom.aia.org, 11 Sept 2001 [cached]
Vice President AMEC Construction Management Inc.
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http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/911_pentagon_renovations.html
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To this day, it makes my hair hurt to read that any commercial airliner hit the pentagon.
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So everyone except the accounting team looking for Dov's stolen trillions was gone?
1-21-8 On September 10, 2001, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld admitted that the Pentagon had lost, by the estimate he chose to use for his speech, 2.3 trillion dollars. Many of you good readers know about this, and are asking where the money went. That's a good question, but what really intrigues me is:
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On Sept. 11, Pentagon construction crews were doing final, touch-up work on the first wedge after more than three years of renovation....Hijacked American Airlines Flight 77 tore into the Pentagon at 350 miles per hour, tearing through three of the building’s five rings before exploding in a fireball that killed 125 Pentagon workers and 64 airline passengers. (No construction workers died.) ... Lee Evey, program manager for the Pentagon renovation project, says that if the building had not been under repair, there could have been 10,000 Defense employees in Wedges 1 and 2.
Restoring Hope
gcahlink@govexec.com
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The Knight of the Smoking Chimp
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http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=150858&Disp=54#C47
http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=140410&Disp=19#C19 Excerpts: What Cover-Up You Ask...
http://helpstopthe9-11coverup.blogspot.com/2012/09/king-street-van-explosion- cover-up.html#!/ instead of flying north toward the Baltimore area as instructed, the fighters are going east, out over the Atlantic Ocean, apparently toward a military training airspace called Whiskey 386 (see 9:30 a.m.-9:37 a.m. September 11, 2001). [Ref. historycommons.org]; “We’ve got a fleet of ships heading toward the northeast and an Aegis cruiser [a high-tech warship] on the way.”
So, where do British subs test fire their missiles? At a place in the atlantic called… Whiskey 386. So were there any British subs in the region? Records on line that I have seen, submitted by one peace grouop in the UK clearly established that HMS Trafalgar left port in the UK on 1st September 2001 to travel via the Americas to the Far East which would have put it in Whiskey 386 or so on 11th September 2001. This peace group who incidentally have nothing to do with the 9/11 movement, established that when HMS Trafalgar reached port in the Far East, her inventory of cruise missiles were down by EIGHT,, indicating a test firing in Whiskey 386 of 8 Cruise missiles on about 11th September 2001. Had this occurred, and they been compromised and electronically hijacked without the sub knowing, they could have been flown straight to the Pentagon and the WTC without a glitch on any NATO radar.
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foreign company - headed by a Knight of the British Empire - managed the controversial clean-up of the rubble at the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.
The destruction and removal of evidence must stop immediately, Manning wrote.
Who "Cleaned Up" 911
By Christopher Bollyn
American Free Press
15th August 2002
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http://www.pageglance.com/aemc911.com
http://archive.org/details/SirUn...mKnightOfTheBritishEmpire
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http://www.kamron.com/Liberty/missing_13th_amendment.htm
Before a thirteenth State could ratify, the War of 1812 broke out with England. By the time the war ended in 1814, the British had burned the Capitol, the Library of ... copy of this book from the Texas State Library and Archives in Liberty Texas. .... not until after the Civil War and after the disappearance of this 13th Amendment, ...
#14. To: Lod, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, *9-11* (#12)
Lod: The immediate clean-up and sanitization of the crime scene is clear evidence of a MIHOP event.
How Could Explosives Have Been Placed Beforehand?
In 1988, Salomon Inc., now Citigroup, entered into an agreement with Silverstein as 7 World Trade Company's managing agent, pursuant to which Citigroup leased floors 28-47 and portions of floors 1-5 of 7WTC. (Page 26) In order to ensure that a power outage would not disrupt Citigroup's trading activities at 7WTC, the Citigroup Lease provided that Citigroup would have the right to install "diesel emergency power generators - together with all ancillary equipment therefor."[sic] (Page 26)
PoliticalMoneyline.com reported on November 21, 2005:
"Hastert for Congress sent a $2,000 check payable to the U.S. Treasury to the Federal Election Commission. The committee wished to return money it had received from employees of AMEC Construction Management. AMEC signed a conciliation agreement with the FEC and agreed to pay an $85,000 civil penalty for an illegal employee reimbursement scheme. AMEC also gave $25,000 to ARMPAC Non-Federal Account on 3/31/02
"The Pentagon is massive--larger than three Empire State Buildings, the face on each of the five sides slightly longer than three football fields--the wedge construction allowed engineers to remake the building one, easy-to-close-off section at a time. Contractors could simply move workers, seal off a wedge, and install new features like reinforced steel columns and two-inch-thick blast- resistant windows... AMEC Construction, won the general contract for Wedge 1, he plunged into the job eagerly, anxious to explore every square inch of the physical structure. New York Daily News reported on December 4, 2005:
"...the city issued $10 million retainer checks to each of the Big Four: AMEC Construction, Bovis Lend Lease, Tully Construction and Turner Construction.
#15. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, wudidiz (#13)
Thank you for all the great work you did on this thread. I am still reading it.
#16. To: All, *9-11* (#14)
Mobster involvement is evidently linked to AMEC [sic]; as well as to another WTC contractor, Colonial Sand and Concrete. That cement company reportedly had an exclusive contract when the WTC was built and is owned by a mob-linked family from Italy named Pope, a member of which also owns the National Inquirer. Recall that the National Inquirer was involved after 9/11 in the Anthrax Attacks as an alleged target. More on that company in another post.
Before the dust had settled on September 11, the mayor of New York City, Rudolph Giuliani, and Kenneth Holden of the city s Dept. of Design and Construction (DDC), contracted 4 major construction management companies to begin the removal of the debris from the World Trade Center.
Title [at talkshoe.com]: 911 & Hollow Towers w/Tom Della Latta
Della Latta a no-show. Discussion with Phil Jayhan and Yankee451/Steve starts around the 5 min. mark. Topics: WTC Architect Minoru Yamasaki, bin Laden connection with Yamasaki, Empire State Building lawsuit claiming WTC unsafe, Mafioso Colonial Sand and Concrete Company/Pope family that also owns the National Enquirer [Ref. Anthrax Attacks]. More.
by Dave Cole, Larry McWilliams & Phil Jayhan
Do you recall a video of mass [WTC Towers] evacuation?
#17. To: All (#16)
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Description and related info from the sidebar of the above mentioned Playlist:
AMEC also invented AFMS (Automated Frequency Management Services), which "advises clients all over the world on matters of radio regulations development, communication policy, spectrum planning, and computer-based frequency management and radio station licensing"
#18. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, All (#8)
Fewer than 100 AMEC workers and subcontractors were onsite, while a new construction team, led by Hensel-Phelps Construction Co. of Greeley, Colo., was setting up shop to begin the next round of renovations.
#19. To: All (#9)
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at amazon.com Politics Forum
An analysis of the Pentagon crash on 9-11
By Richard Stanley & Jerry Russell version 2.1 (10/12/2004) Page 5
Aluminum Siding Saves Money when Remodeling and Reinforcing
http://www.911- strike.com/siding-scam.htm Firemen stated that the most externally observed fire was coming from the contractor's trailer.
By ALAN FEUER and NATE SCHWEBER,
The New York Times
Posted: 2006-12-06 11:18:12 Wendy Burlingame's father, Charles, piloted American Airlines Flight 77 on Sept. 11, 2001, before hijackers flew it into the Pentagon.
Asking if Rep. Hunter can test AMEC 'sabotage-vulnerability' teams for apparent arson attacks at Pentagon on 9/11 and near Camp Pendleton with forest fires San Diego County, California.
Representative Duncan Hunter, 52nd District of California
#20. To: GreyLmist, 4 (#18)
That program also investigates our old missile silos being converted to survival-condo bunkers for wealthy civilians.
#21. To: All (#11)
wayback.archive.org copy of Christopher Bollyn article that is unavailable at the sites noted in Post #9 above:
#22. To: GreyLmist (#21)
#23. To: Lod (#20)
Once the missiles were decommissioned and the sites had no strategic use, they were put up for sale.
Prices were all over the board depending on the condition of the silos, amenities (or lack thereof), and the acreage that went with the silo.
#24. To: GreyLmist (#23)
#25. To: All (#19)
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the foam units got there and concentrated on the area of the construction trailer, which was producing some severe fires and subsequent mini explosions due to highly flammable chemicals in it
Washington, DC (16 September 2002) -- The Air Force Association (AFA) has selected Sydney Gillibrand, C.B.E., Chairman of international engineering and services firm AMEC as the 2002 co-recipient of its coveted “John R. Alison Award for Industrial Leadership” in recognition of AMEC’s role in renovating and hardening the Pentagon prior to September 11 and its reconstruction after the terrorist attack.
The Air Force Association (AFA) is an independent, nonprofit, civilian organization promoting public understanding of aerospace power and the pivotal role it plays in the security of the nation.
AMEC is a leading international provider of specialised services and engineering solutions for clients in manufacturing, commercial, infrastructure and process industries. AMEC applies knowledge, innovation and technology to generate value for clients throughout the life of their capital assets.
#26. To: Lod, *9-11* (#22)
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Ghouliani gave the order, AMEC just executed it.
Other than the supervisory firm LZA/Thornton-Tomasetti, the City also hired five construction companies to handle the majority of the debris removal, and the site was divided up among them. These five companies were AMEC Construction Management, Bovis Lend Lease, Turner Construction, Tully Construction and Tishman Construction. Charlie Vitchers, who worked for Jim Abadie at Bovis, and was a leader at Ground Zero, said the site was then broken up "into basically five segments. Building 7 debris was given to Tishman. The northwest corner of the site was given to AMEC. The northeast section of the site was given to Tully. And the southwest corner of the site and Tower 2 debris removal was given to Bovis." 76 Turner Construction was assigned to a central location between building 5 and building 6.
On October 30, 2001 Bovis announced their division of Bovis Lend Lease Pharmaceutical, a new company focused on providing solutions to its global customers in the pharmaceutical and allied industries.
#27. To: All (#26)
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[Note there:] This page may be republished for non-commercial purposes as long as reprints include a verbatim copy of the article in its entirety, respecting its integrity and cite the author and Ephemeris 360.org as the source including a live link to the article.
by Kevin Ryan
[click on above link for the LONG articles!]
[and very thought provoking ones!!]
The South Tower Impact Zone
The Washington Group
Other floors and companies of interest
Conclusions and next steps
Notes and references
Ensec International
Securacom
Silverstein Properties
Giuliani, Cherkasky and the BCCI Investigation
Conclusions
Notes
SAIC
Halliburton and BCCI
Kissinger and his associates
Endnotes
An unprecedented destruction of evidence
The Cleanup Operation
Debris removal and theft
Conclusion
Endnotes and referencesFebruary 18, 2010
A previous article by Kevin Ryan, 'Another Amazing Coincidence Related to the WTC', published in January 2008, tracked the exact or nearly exact parallels between floors of the Towers that were upgraded before 9/11/01 and the floors that were then subjected to airliner-impact and explosive failure on 9/11/01. [51]
Fire Chief Joseph Pfeifer, who was at the command post in the lobby of the North Tower, testified that -- "Right before the South Tower collapsed, I noticed a lot of people just left the lobby, and I heard we had a crew of all different people, high-level people in government, everybody was gone, almost like they had information that we didn't have." 22
#28. To: Lod (#24)
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This started under Krintoon and the first that I learned of it was back on FR, which tells us how long it's been going on.
12:01AM BST 17 Sep 2001 [My note: Constitution Day] AMEC, the British engineering and construction group, has been asked to rebuild the parts of the Pentagon destroyed in the terrorist attack, in which 190 people died last week.
New York City-based general contractor AMEC, which at the time of the crash was within days of completing renovation of Wedge 1, will reconstruct wedges 1 and 2.
#29. To: All (#27)
Excerpt from: Demolition Access to the WTC Towers: Part Four - Cleanup
Man claims black SUVs fled New York hour before first plane hit on 9/11
Excerpt from: Demolition Access to the WTC Towers: Part Four - Cleanup
NIST FOIA: WTC7 and Barclay Street after WTC1 Fell (Unknown Videographer)
DVD: 42A0099 - G25D9 (Clip #16)
Source: 911datasets.org
#30. To: GreyLmist (#0)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#31. To: All (#29)
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Subcontractors Breeze National, Peter Scalamandre & Sons, Civetta Cousins, Safeway Environmental and Yonkers Contracting made millions of dollars from their work at the site. Subcontractors Mazzocchi Wrecking and Seasons Contracting made tens of millions of dollars.
Bloomberg also awarded clean up duties to fellow Zionist jew, Alan Ratner and his Metal Management company.
"Ninety-nine percent of the drivers were extremely driven to do their jobs. But there were big concerns, because the loads consisted of highly sensitive material. One driver, for example, took an extended lunch break of an hour and a half. There was nothing criminal about that, but he was dismissed."
Uploaded by Federaljacktube4 on Dec 26, 2010
Turner Construction, one of the primary contractors at Ground Zero, occupied the 38th floor of the north tower, and was involved in performing the fireproofing upgrades in the towers. It has been noted that these upgrades were completed, in the three years before 9/11, on floors that match up almost identically to the floors of impact and failure on 9/11. 82 In any case, since 1999 Turner has been a wholly owned subsidiary of Hochtief AG, and its CEO is Thomas C. Leppert, who later became mayor of Dallas. President George W. Bush appointed Mayor Leppert to the President's Commission on White House Fellows, and Bush now lives in Dallas, about a mile away from Leppert.
Uploaded by WarCrime911 on Oct 15, 2011
#32. To: All (#31)
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By Cook Samuel A. Samuel Cook
By Kevin R. Ryan
Republished from Digwithin.net AMEC, the international engineering and project management company, announces today that it has signed an agreement to acquire a 50 per cent stake in Kromav Engenharia Ltda (KROMAV), a privately owned Brazilian offshore oil and gas and marine engineering company. KROMAV is based in Rio de Janeiro,
there is reason to believe that explosives were planted in the building. This evidence includes witness testimony to a strong shockwave indicative of an explosion. Other witnesses with military experience testified to the strong smell of cordite, a low-grade military explosive, at the scene. [79]
Cordite is a family of smokeless propellants developed and produced in the United Kingdom from 1889 to replace gunpowder as a military propellant. [sic]
Conkers - collected for use in two world wars
"Recently I was a loaned a publication which discussed the collection of conkers during wartime for the Ministry of Supply. It said:
At the beginning of the First World War, cordite - the smokeless powder used as a propellant in small arms ammunition and artillery - was imported mainly from North America, but when blockades made shipping difficult Britain needed to produce its own cordite. One of the ingredients required for making cordite is acetone, a volatile liquid compound used as a solvent. Acetone is made from starch and Britain needed to look for sources of starch. At the beginning of the war we relied on imported maize and even potatoes for starch. But when supply routes were cut, Lloyd George, as Minister of Munitions, required that starch should come from closer to home. He asked Professor Chaim Weizman of Manchester University to come up with an alternative way for making acetone. Weizmann, the leading Zionist and later the first president of Israel, devised a process to extract the solvent not only from maize but also from horse chestnuts - conkers. [My note: similar to buckeyes] There were factories at Poole in Dorset and by the dockside at King's Lynn in Norfolk, producing as much as 90,000 gallons of acetone a year. When supplies of maize ran short, it was supplemented with horse chestnuts collected by schoolchildren. The factory locations were top secret and schools that collected conkers sent them to London to be passed on to the factories. Because the process was being kept secret, there were local suspicions that private profit was being made from voluntary efforts.
#33. To: Lod, christine, Jethro Tull, James _Deffenbach (#2)
So everyone except the accounting team looking for Dov's stolen trillions was gone?
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