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Title: "Give us twenty years and we'll take over your media and destroy your country"
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URL Source: http://www.takeourworldback.com/dan ... lisfbireport.htm#giveUs20Years
Published: Nov 13, 2012
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Post Date: 2012-11-13 21:51:11 by Artisan
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Poster comment: The following are some excerpts and analysis of the declassified FBI reports from the 'dancing israeli' case from 9/11/01. The files have been declassified for some years now, but thought it interesting to post this. the fbi files themselves are 5 separate files upwards of 40+ pages each. This stuff is not 'speculation' or opinion, its the actual FBI reports. Page 35: Film obtained from the 35mm camera of one of the detainees was later developed and processed by the Newark Division. The photos clearly corroborate [blank's] statements in that the Israelis are visibly happy on nearly all of the photgraphs [sic]. Further, the photos revealed that the Israelis had taken photographs from both the top of a van and from another location believed to be a parking lot near the Urban Moving Systems location in Weehawken, NJ. (The Bureau should note that based upon the evidence recovery log as completed by Newark, it is unclear which collected items belonged to which Israeli detainee.) Newark also received information pertaining to another Urban Moving Systems vehicle which had been stopped while traveling westbout [sic] by the Pennsylvania State Police on 09/10/2001, the day prior to the terrorist attack. At 11:30pm, a Penske truck was stopped for a traffic violation. The vehicle was identified as having been leased by Urban Moving Systems of Weehawken, NJ. The individuals questioned, [blank] and [blank] identified as Israeli Nationals, advised that they were bound for Columbus, OH. On 09/12/2001, the same truck was once again stopped while traveling eastbound in Pennsylvania. [Blank] and [blank] the same Israeli nationals identified earlier, were detained. During questioning by the Pennsylvania State Police, the Israelis advised that they weren't "in New York" on 09/11/2001. A gasoline purchase receipt recovered by the Pennsylvania State Police seems to contradict their claim in that the receipt, dated 09/11/2001, was for gasoline purchased in New Jersey. (Lead set to Williamsport RA presently pending.) A subsequent interview of the president/owner of Urban Moving Systems revealed that [blank] and [blank] delivery schedule for the morning of 09/11/2001 did not include any pickups or deliveries outside of New Jersey. Oddly, [blank] and [blank] were stopped while traveling in the direction of the site of the hijacked plane that crashed outside of Pittsburgh, PA. Newark also received information which revealed that on about 1:00pm, 09/11/2001, three dark-skinned males had been observed driving a white van, bearing New Jersey plates, on Spirit Brook Road [should be Spit Brook Road] near Nashua, New Hampshire (just outside of Boston). According to the report, the driver of the van appeared to be lost; the van had a sign on the side for Urban Moving Systems. A search of Urban Moving Systems, Weehawken, NJ, revealed more oddities which caused the search team leader to characterize the company as a possible "fraudulent operation." Little evidence of a legitimate business operation was found. Evidence recovery agents did seize, however, sixteen (16) separate computer units used by Urban Moving Systems. The FBI presence at the Urban Moving Systems search site drew the attention of the local media and was later reported on both television and in the local press. A former Urban Moving Systems employee later contacted the Newark Division with information indicating that he had quit his employment with Urban Moving Systems due to high amount of anti-American sentiment present among Urban's employees. The former employee stated that an Israeli employee of Urban had even once remarked, "Give us twenty (20) years and we'll take over your media and destroy your country." Based on the odd circumstances surrounding Urban Moving Systems, the deception over the alleged usage of a video camera by its Israeli employees, and the observed positive reactions (by the Israeli detainees) to the explosions at WTC, Newark Squad C-9 (SSA [blank] SA [blank], began to focus on the following: [Blanked off for nearly two pages.] Page 39: A search of UNI for any references to [blank] revealed two possible references [blank] and [blank] investigations at San Diego) to [blank] born [blank] which further identified [blank, nine characters] as an [blank, up to 25 characters excluding period, so "intelligence operative" could fit.] Based on information provided by the Miami Division, Newark detained (initially) and interviewed four (4) employees of Classic International Movers, a New Jersey based moving company which was believed by Miami to have been used by one of the nineteen (19) alleged hijackers involved in the terrorist attacks. All four employees, Israeli nationals, had served in the Israeli military, and entered the U.S. from various locations in South America. [Note: It's quite bizarre that an "Arab terrorist" would use an Israeli moving company. However, if Israelis were posing as "Arab terrorists", it would be remarkable if they didn't use an Israeli moving company.] [Blanked off paragraphs.] .... Poster Comment: MUCH MUCH more at link. very interesting.
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The linked-info below is a rare copy from an investigative series of reports by CNS News soon after 9/11 on United Way and Red Cross mishandling of Victim Fund donations. This excerpt is likely relevant to the Dancing Israelis but doesn't name them and pertains to September 11 donations used to fund the Legal Aid Society which was defending a number of detained terrorist suspects. UNITED WAY - 9/11 funds go to left-wing causes unconnected with terror (you MUST read this!) Left-Wing Groups Aided by 9-11 Funds; Critics Charge 'Abuse' By Marc Morano CNSNews.com Senior Staff Writer November 19, 2001 [sic] Last week, the September 11th Fund was criticized for a $171,000 grant it gave to the Legal Aid Society (LAS), a group fighting for expanded government programs and welfare rights in New York City. The LAS is also defending a number of detainees held on immigration charges in connection with the terror attacks. Steven Banks, spokesman for the LAS, maintains the men are being held on civil violations and are not criminal suspects. He added that if any of the detainees were charged in connection with the terror attacks, the LAS would "withdraw from the case." But the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) said just because a detainee has not been charged with a crime, it doesn't mean that person is not part of the government's investigation into the terror attacks. "Individuals arrested on immigration charges in connection with the 9-11 investigation were charged because of the immigration violations, but clearly were arrested because of a lead developed from the investigation into the terrorist attacks," INS spokesman Russell Bergeron told CNSNews.com. "The American people fully expect that if we have someone in custody, that we will not release that person until the investigation has determined that that person is not linked to the ongoing investigation," he added. Officer Stephen Jacobson of the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn, where the detainees are being held, said he could not provide any information about Legal Aid's clients without first knowing their names. Legal Aid did not respond to repeated requests to release the names of the detainees they are defending. Edited to correct link title.
Archiving some links for research and referencing: 1. “Dancing Israelis” Arrested On 9/11 Later Sued The Govt, But Lost Their Case -- an alt source for thread- article 2. takeourworldback.com: The "Dancing Israelis" FBI Report - Debunked 3. webcache backup of takeourworldback.com: The "Dancing Israelis" FBI Report - Debunked 5. Wayback Machine archives: 249 URLs have been captured for this domain: takeourworldback.com 6. Scribd docs: Freedom of Information Release – FBI Documents RE: ‘Urban MOving SystemS IncorporAteD‘ & the 9/11 ‘Dancing Israelis’ 7. The official 2001 FBI docs on Urban Moving Systems and the 9-11-2001 Dancing Israelis incident -- videos 8. 9-11, Mossad Mall Spies, Zoomcopters and Dominik Suter -- docs 10. Amazing Mural Van Photo Never Seen Before - Page 2 - Let's Roll Forums -- docs; "CIA agent Robert Baer confirmed their cameras were set up BEFORE the first plane struck." 11. xymphora Urban Moving Systems: Via whatreallyhappened, Urban Moving Systems Inc received almost $500,000 in a loan from the American government in fiscal year 2001. The loan was a small business loan from the Small Business Administration and was made on June 22, 2001. 12. Urban Moving Systems the US-Israeli 9-11 financial nexus « Under The Radar Media -- mp3 audio commentary at top by Ryan Dawson 13. Crimes of the State THE ISRAELI ART STUDENTS AND MOVERS STORY -- long Wayne Madsen report; DEA list on Art Students; list of who the Dancing Israelis charged in their lawsuit, etc. 14. infowars.net: The Mystery Of The 9/11 Car Bombs: Evidence points to multiple roaming backup teams with vans full of explosives 15. truedemocracyparty.net: ISRAELI MOSSAD’S EXPLOSIVE LADEN 911 VANS: 3 Vans painted Like 911 on 911, 2 With Explosives, 9 Israeli Spies, Some Filming Events “What The News Doesn’t Say”: "I feel I can also can say with some certainty that it was very likely one of the many, many Israeli 'Art Students' (just some other Jewish spies arrested in America and Canada) who painted the mural on that truck." 16. 4um Title Cross-Reference: 9/11 Vans: 'Splain This! 17. YouTube Playlist: 9/11 Suspect Vans Info 18. Israel and 9-11 - Index of What Really Happened 19. Urban Moving Systems and Detained Israelis -- 2 found with video of Sears Tower 20. FBI Fury As Men With Nuke Plans, Valid Israeli Passports Escape 21. Two Israelis arrested with bombs in the Mexican Congress Edited to add links, correct paths, correct a title, and to re-number the list.
this stuff never ends. the best new info (to me) above is that our govt gave half a million to UBS. incredible. i bet a documentary just on the dancing israelis alone could fill too many hours.
The gov-money to Suter for his Urban Moving Systems is mentioned at more than one of the links listed at Post #12 above and at many sites in a websearch. However, I am unable to confirm it at fedspending.org (a site referenced 3 times under the title of "Fed gives grant to Urban Moving Systems" at #s 7-9 in the listed links at Post #12; and twice in links within the first paragraph of the xymphora site at #11 in that list, where I noted the gov-money issue in an excerpt). The xymphora site references whatreallyhappened.com as their original source. The fedspending.org data regarding Urban Moving Systems seems to have been verifiable by a number of sites at the time links were posted to it but some searches there won't currently go back as far as 2001 and Urban Moving Systems doesn't come up in any searches that I tried to do there. Here are 2 pics that purport to show fedspending.org data about the issue but can't be verfified at fedspending.org and can't be checked at the Wayback Machine archives either by searching for article-referenced links. Messages there: Screenshot of info displayed at #6 in the list of links at Post #12: Freedom of Information Release – FBI Documents RE: ‘Urban MOving SystemS IncorporAteD‘ & the 9/11 ‘Dancing Israelis’ This is an alternate screenshot at #12 in the links-list for: Urban Moving Systems the US-Israeli 9-11 financial nexus « Under The Radar Media: [Pic link -- no Assigned Recipient ID shown in that view] As noted previously, the site at #s 7-9 (in the links-list at Post #12) references an url titled, "Fed gives grant to Urban Moving Systems" for the fedspending.org info on Urban Moving Systems, but that link is redirecting to a fedspending.org page for Assigned Recipient ID 959261: SPRING BAYOU WATER (in LA, no D&B) (FY 2001) The xymphora site states this about the gov-money issue: For other possible front-companies perhaps being subsidized by grants and loans through US gov-funding (such as locksmiths; also carpet and upholstery cleaners, for some examples), see also: The Billion Dollar Israeli Scammer Machine and One of Dancing Israeli Suter's enterprises still going strong [both of those links referenced at #s 7-9 of the Post #12 list]. Whether or not gov-issued money to Urban Moving Systems can presently be verified, I suspect that the Israeli Art Student Spy Ring operation was financed to some extent by gov-grant funding for Art programs. Undoutedly, the Gelitin art group's housing at the WTC through the Lower Manhattan Cultural Council (LMCC) -- in what became the WTC 1 strikezone -- was largely at taxpayer expense. That sort of foreign spy-enabling/financing might have been the covert-intent behind Jackie Kennedy's lobbying for The Arts, imo. This is from the LMCC link -- and I think we can be reasonably certain that business was heavily insured to the hilt for compensation of their claimed 9/11 losses: Related info at these 2 links on the mis-administrations of 9/11 Funds -- by the United Way (ref: Post #11 above in this thread) and also by the Red Cross (ref: Post # 7 at 4um Title: The American Red Double Cross). Edited for grammar and readability formatting + to include a link for "One of Dancing Israeli Suter's enterprises still going strong".
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest(CNSNews.com) - One of the largest relief funds set up to help the victims of the Sept. 11 attacks, has awarded grants totaling more than $1 million to a variety of left-wing political groups devoted to causes like hate crime legislation, expanded welfare, gun control and nationalized health care.
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this stuff never ends. the best new info (to me) above is that our govt gave half a million to UBS. incredible. i bet a documentary just on the dancing israelis alone could fill too many hours.
Assigned Recipient ID 903577 currently shows as: R.B. Heating & Air (in MN, no D&B) (FY 2001)
It appears to be Mossad protocol to help finance Israeli spy operations by taking out government loans. By June 2001, the Mossad would have been aware that the Urban Moving Systems operation was going to be over in a matter of a few months, meaning that it was intended that the 'loan' was never going to be paid back. To add insult to injury, American taxpayers are not only spied upon by a foreign country, they have to pay for the privilege.
In 2005, LMCC received a $5 million grant over 3 years from The September 11th Fund to support and sustain the arts community in Lower Manhattan.
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