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Title: 911 What Happened - Not How It Happened - Dr Judy Wood
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Published: Nov 16, 2012
Author: Judy Wood
Post Date: 2012-11-16 10:10:44 by Horse
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#28. To: titorite (#23)
when did this conversation wander into the role of the media? Does anyone honestly believe that the global elites whose wealth and power depend on manipulation of the global chess board would leave something like the Presidency up to chance?
Like you, I've read and viewed it all. I wouldn't dismiss neutron bombs to smoke the towers. I really don't know, and don't dismiss anything. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken Each and every time I have attempted to present facts when conversing with you in regards to the 9/11 attacks, you have attacked me with a barrage of profantities and insults, along with wild claims with no basis in fact. Seems to me if you actually cared about what the TRUTH was, you wouldn't behave in that manner. Since you must have guessed by now I had bozo'd you, apparently you thought you'd play the nice guy in speaking to my handle, trying to score some "points". You're just the gift that keeps on giving. I have never profaned you. Nor any other member here. Get a grip. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken Lod, do you know what a neutron bomb is designed to do? It is designed to kill as many people as possible with radiation, while leaving infrastructure intact as much as possible. Basically, it is an anti-personel device, designed to be used if it was determined that it would be best to anhilate a population, while leaving their city largely untouched. It would be the opposite of the sort of weapon that would be necessary to destroy a structure where it was desired to produce little or no lethal radiation. If a neutron bomb HAD been detonated on 9/11 in NYC, thousands of people, perhaps 10's of thousands or more, would have been dead within hours if they were anywhere near the WTC area when it happened. Additionally, since we are talking about a nuclear device, there would have been a HUGE EMP, frying any electronic equipment in the vicinity, AND, there would have been a VERY bright flash of light from the towers as the detonation occured, along with a massive burst of debris emanating from the location of the detonation. The towers would not have nor could not have collapsed from the top down as they did. Nor any other member here. Get a grip. I was addressing the post to titorite, and just included you in the ping list so that you saw it. If you doubt what I say, just do a search of posts from titorite to myself. He was especially vile in the 9/11 thread concerning switching aircraft. I could give you some links if you prefer. You could also check his posts to RickyJ in that same thread. It wasn't just me who was getting piled on. And THIS is exactly what meant earlier when I said I am really starting to NOT care about 9/11 any longer, as this exchange proves just how easy it is for someone with ill intent to paint their target as the bad guy, and those who I personally trusted and looked up to, such as yourself, fall for it. LOL! Ah, Our beloved media. May no one ever claim they informed us. _______________________________________________________________________________ The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself,Take Action!!!
Seems to me if you actually cared about what the TRUTH was, you wouldn't behave in that manner. Since you must have guessed by now I had bozo'd you, apparently you thought you'd play the nice guy in speaking to my handle, trying to score some "points". You're just the gift that keeps on giving. FormerLurker, That is the weirdest.... weakest... lamest attempt at a conversation twist and guilt redirection. I have no clue nor interest in what you do with your settings. In fact I am tired of addressing you because when ever we converse the subject always seems to stray from 911 and into personal nit pickings. And While I can quote where I have said I was mistaken and what not...whats the point? Instead of making this about me and you or you vrs the world or any other nonesense thing, instead , how about we talk about what we know.... and what this thread is about. We know we have all kinds of DEW weapons. D.A.P.A.R. doesn't make wicker baskets. It makes military advancements. It is completely possible DEW weapons were used. They existed at that time... nothing being put forward in this interview was fringe. Ms, Woods even stressed avoiding speculation and grounding our conclusions in what can be proven by peer reviewed... PEER REVIEWED. Peer Review Definition Dec 26, 2005 ... Peer review is the evaluation of creative work or performance by other people in the same field in order to maintain or enhance the quality So we can see she is not afraid of having her worked double checked and debunked. To do that though FIRST you must know exactly what it is we are talking about...what the fruits of her labour has been, in said peer review paper. If you have issue with her findings the point out her work exactly and speak up on what your exact boggle is with her work. And I stress "her" here because I am not wanting to know about the work of others by comparisons. I am familer(sp) with other peoples research. Specifically , if you find flaw in Woods work , I would like to keep it about her work and where you find any issue in it... Sound good? _______________________________________________________________________________ The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself,Take Action!!!
Name me ONE which can bring down a 110 story skyscraper. You don't even know how to spell it. It's called DARPA. BTW, there IS no reason why any exotic device would have been necessary to bring down the towers as witnessed. A controlled sequence of detonations using C4 cutting charges, enhanced perhaps with the addition of nano-thermite, would easily have collapsed floors below the point of collapse, causing the upper structure to pulverize the weakened floors below it as it fell, resulting in a near free fall collapse. Precision timing achieved by computer control would have been all that was necessary to accomplish the task. Concerning Dr. Judy Wood, she herself had explained the collapse as being of sequential failure, and proved how and why that is so. It's bizarre that she hop on this "directed energy beam" tale, when her own research proves that it was a sequential collapse due to elimination of each floor under the collapsing structure. A Refutation of the Official Collapse Theory - Dr. Judy Wood Something pulverized the concrete, in sequence, and it wasn't a pancaking building from ten stories above. We are total FOOLS for going along with this shit. There I said it. Why does not the government open an investigation into this....... O yeh. Just one? I have the internet at my disposal. I could name dozens upon dozens in both practical and plausible to the theoretical yet applicable... High intensity Laser,microwave resonance, perhaps a micro kinetic pellet...I mean, how much do you know about coil guns? Or DEW weapons in general? Are you intimate with the wide range of subject matter and what is in use? Now, you brought up my miss spelling of D.A.R.P.A. . Was their a reason you did not use proper punctuation of the acronym? Not to split hairs here but this was the exact kind of nit pick bull shit I spoke to earlier. Everyone knew what I meant even you...but only you sought to call it out as if it were a relevant point. Our grammar and minor mistakes their in and of, is irrelevant to the topic at hand. Ms. Judy Woods and her interview here and her work. Try not to detract by distraction but rather , help us stick with the topic at hand. Please. I'll try hard too. :) As for their being no reason for DEW weapons being involved.... well... that is kinda what this interview is about.. and her work... and this whole entire topic that is being discussed.... and you still have not spoken to any flaw or failing you find in her work. You offer alternative theories and that is all well and good but you do not cite what you find to be incorrect , point by point. Soooooooo......... Did you wanna talk about her interview and what she suggests? _______________________________________________________________________________ The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself,Take Action!!!
I wouldn't dismiss neutron bombs to smoke the towers. I really don't know, and don't dismiss anything. Yes L, there with you. I don't dismiss much, anyway. My point is that a REAL INVESTIGATION could easily get to the bottom of a whole lot of 9-11 but high officials seem uninterested in the subject that has started a world war. Kinda like WW1. And WW2. It was free fall pancaking, indicating the underlying floor below the collapsing structure had lost ALL structural integrity prior to the upper structure crashing into it. The increased speed of the upper structure caused a much higher release of kinetic energy than would otherwise have occured, enabling the pulverization of the area of impact. If the lower floors had NOT been wired for demolition, then the collapse would NOT have been symmetrical nor would if have occured at near free fall speed. In fact, IF the upper structure had impacted INTACT floors, the collapse would have drastically slowed down and stopped after perhaps 10 or so floors, and the upper structure would have slid off the remaining tower, crashing down into the streets of New York. Why does not the government open an investigation into this....... O yeh. In the interview she went over a very valid point... We the people , are looking into this. We need to know. Given the circumstances of the event and all that was involved in every level, we need to know everything we can about this ESPECIALLY the complete existence of the exact types of weapons they used, down to the serial numbers and manufacturer(s). The more we all know about this kind of technology the better off we will all be. The more understanding we have , the less likely it will be that such power will be able to be used in such a manner again...the better off we will all be. _______________________________________________________________________________ The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself,Take Action!!!
I have to disagree with you on that. The truth isn't mystical or magical, it can be clearly seen from available evidence what most likely took place on the day of 9/11. There might be small details here and there that are different but I highly doubt anything major. Anyway, I have already stated why his theory of directed energy could not have been what caused the towers to collapse. He won't address that because he doesn't care about the truth. God is always good!
Well, Thank God at least one of us care about the truth. _______________________________________________________________________________ The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself,Take Action!!!
You think a laser wouldn't be visible if it were powerful enough to heat up a building sufficiently to cause it to instantly fall into itself? You're confusing Star Trek phasers with what a real laser is. It's simply amplified light, and it simply heats things up. We have NOTHING which can bring down a building, in fact, it's hard enough to heat up a missile in order to destroy it. Such beams are NOT powerful enough in the atmosphere to do any significant damage except for objects at a very short range. Ok, so it wasn't a laser. Microwave resonance? Fancy word for microwave heating effects, where here, we are talking more about anti-personel or (non lethal) weapons designed for combat or riot situations. Micro kinetic pellet? A hyper-velocity pellet might go through a battleship, but it pretty much just makes a clean hole. It certainly did not nor could it have brought down the WTC. So can you find any sort of "directed energy weapon" which COULD bring down the WTC? Thank God at least one of us care about the truth. He finally admits he doesn’t care about the truth. I told you. God is always good!
Whatever directed energy weapon they could come up with still wouldn't fit the available evidence since there were survivors of the WTC collapse. Any directed energy weapon that would turn concrete and steel beams into dust surely would have killed any humans as well.
God is always good!
Fuck it , I tried to get yall talking about her work specificly , since this topic was about her and her research. ..but it seems yall can not point out any flaw or are unwilling to attempt it. At least I think we all know now where you two stand in the line and what loyalties yall perfer serve. I'll see yall never. It's been real and it's been fun but it aint been real fun, know what mean? Laters. _______________________________________________________________________________ The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself,Take Action!!!
First off, it demonstrates you've probably never even read anything in terms of who they are and what they do. DARPA stands for Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency. If you look up the word, that is what it stands for. AND, just like every other alphabet soup agency, they do not place punctuation inbetween the letters. I mean, the FBI doesn't use F.B.I., nor does the CIA use C.I.A I am thinking you just heard the acronym on YouTube and are spelling it phonetically, being that you didn't notice the R in the first syllable, and heard it in the second syllable where it doesn't belong. There are other factors which eliminates directed energy weapons as well. One such item is that any sort of weapon powerful enough to disintegrate a skyscraper would need MASSIVE amounts of power, and would most likely be MASSIVE in size. Where would such a weapon be fired from, and where it would it get its energy? Another is the matter of how would such a weapon be selective in its destructive power, where not only would it not ALSO destroy objects and structures in back of its target, but that it would be able to focus its energy on EXACTLY where it needed to be in order to cause a sequential top down collapse, progressing downwards as the collapse took place. If we had such weapons, we would be using them right now against any nation that the elites wanted to attack. It would be more devastating than the nuclear bomb, and such unbalanced power would most assuredly result in a global conflict of unmatched proportion. Uh huh. Back to the personal stuff against me know, right titorite, since you've lost the argument and can't back up your claims. If you noticed, I HAVE posted some of Judy Wood's earlier work. She made the case for EXACTLY what I AM saying, in that it was a sequential failure which caused the upper mass to accelerate at near free fall speed. Neither you nor her have been able to say exactly why C4 or other conventional explosive devices could not have been used to cause that sequential failure from occuring exactly as it did. The towers were blown outward, No? Credible evidence of asbestoes, and strange elevator shaft activity before the event. We are collective FOOLS for putting up with this corruption. The only conclusion I must come to is the existing (jewish owned?) government is behind 9-11. Prove me wrong. If he cared about truth he wouldn't have just turned tail and ran. If he cared about truth, he would have either admitted he was wrong and apologized, or presented factual information which bolstered his view. Thus far, he's called on me to disprove Judy Wood's work, where her OWN previous work demonstrates the opposite of what he is claiming. Also thus far, he can't seem to find ANY sort of directed energy weapon which exists that could have accomplished what he claims. Correct. However, SOME of the horizontal force can be explained by the compression of the air inbetween floors. The force of EXPLOSIVES however, would greatly enhance that horizontal force, heating and compressing the air even further. Such heat and high pressure were most likely huge factors in the pulverization of the concrete. In terms of who was behind 9/11, it's obvious that the government is ACTIVELY covering this matter up. In terms of who could have orchestrated the "war games" that morning to coincide with the actual attacks, we all know the answer to that. Add to that the HUGE coincidence of that part of the Pentagon containing the accounting records which would have revealed where that "missing" 2.2 TRILLION dollars went to was just exactly where that angry arab decided to strike, well, I think we can get a REALLY good idea of who was behind the entire thing. Isn't it interesting that you can tell someone is a lunatic just from her face?
There are actually govt agents who spread conspiracy theories among the gullible to help promote the illusion that the govt is all powerful.
Turn the brightness up on your computer so you stop mistaking your reflection on the screen. ;) _______________________________________________________________________________ The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself,Take Action!!!
You keep presuming that such weapons would have to be ours rather than a foreign attacker's but there's no reason for us to go back again to square one and re-establish the obvious fact that America isn't the only country with Directed Energy/WMD technology. We don't need to play parlor guessing games about what's in America's secret arsenals and the secret arsenals of others that can topple your Jonesian-model, which has never logically explained what happened that day anyway. It's already been discussed elsewhere in this 4um at length that the evidence indicates something involving electromagnetism -- perhaps even micro/mini nukes. We know that there were surivors in Japan within the atomic blast zones. Apparently, you want us to believe that wouldn't be the case on 9/11 with a smaller nuke of some sort or with Directed Energy weaponry either but somehow they would survive being flash-fried by a nano- thermite/thermate explosion -- because it was actually a very low to no-flash form of thermite/thermate that didn't produce much light or heat, just "pancake powder"?? The so-called pancaking powder flew up and outward as the buildings came down. That tells us that there wasn't the weight crashing down that would be required to pulverize the structures. 9/11 was an Act of War against us, not some campfire-story fashion show that has to be reduced to conformity with a short-stack of thermitic flap- jacks, syrupy molten metal, and remote controlled butter-planes on the side to suit your group. Just for kicks, you might want to explain how crashing and exploding planes wouldn't severely damage the sequencing of a preset controlled demolition or immediately trigger a C4Thermitic one. Edited for grammar and spelling. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Why is it that you think a directed energy weapon could be contained within such a narrow range as the building and produce such massive damage yet leave human survivors? Please, we all weren't born yesterday. The firemen heard explosions before the building started coming down. What you saw on TV was tons of explosives going off sequentially on each floor. You ask what about the impact zone? Well, you think there was no real planes, so that shouldn't be a problem for you, but you will also notice that the impact zone was the only area that did not explode, the rest of the building did, but the impact area didn't. Obviously they didn't have any explosives in that area.
God is always good!
You've been called on to address the current issues, not her previous work. Lots pf people have had to readjust their earlier assessments regarding 9/11. Nothing unusual about that except with Christopher Bollyn, for example, who duplicitously and hostilely postures as if the subject of possible DEW/Beam weaponry originated with Judy Wood when it is traceable to him [as early as Feb 14, 2002]. Edited for bracketed insert. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
You are right that it isn't a problem for no planers like me that the alleged impacts didn't damage or trigger a preset controlled demolition. Your debate team, though, should have some plausible hypotheticals about it besides serendipity. Thanks for your statement that there were no explosives in those areas but how could anyone be confident that explosive impacts would be contained so as not to interfere with or trigger the areas that were prepared with explosives? They couldn't, imo. I'm not against the idea of conventional controlled demolitions being used as well that day, probably as backup and cover for the evidently unconventional methods that pulverized the structures. What we saw on TV was like a terrifying art show. Since Jones hasn't adequately explained the devastation and you don't think exotic weaponry was used, what's the alternatives left? I doubt you want to consider the possibility that it was completely staged media fakery but, however it happened, Jones' Pied Piper routine is defunct. Edited for spelling. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
titorite: LOL! Ah, Our beloved media. May no one ever claim they informed us. 9/11 is a horrific view of what the media's roll has been for centuries -- to provide bread and circuses as filler until the governmental wannabe "gods and goddesses" demand human sacrifices. Then they act as enabler "high priests and priestesses" to condition the masses for the slaughters and keep that going until the "ruling classes" are appeased for a while with blood, death, miseries and treasures. Then it ritually repeats, over and over, down through the ages to this one. About the only difference in modern times is that it's called War "of necessity" so that the maximal number of people are sacrificed and plundered. To delude themselves that they aren't barbarians, I suppose the Media and their masters chalk it up to "Fate" and the fault of others -- like at least they're giving some people a gladiator-type fighting chance now to survive the slaughter if they can rather than killing them directly on demand. Edited for spelling and wording. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Their is also the Internet to consider. At one time we were tied to our priests and religion held control.... Then religion was set aside for intellectual reason and our statesmen held control. Then people got educated, we all learned to read and write (gud nuff) and the paper came to replace our perceptions... followed by Radio... then the talkies and the TV and for a time Major corporations held control. Then one day the internet came along. And before anyone understood what happened WE were given the opportunity to have control. The media is still the whore that it is but it can not stop nor control the net. And it is through this medium that the revolution shall be won. _______________________________________________________________________________ The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself,Take Action!!!
lol Internet reports of unconventional weaponry used in the Afghanistan invasion. Am not endorsing them as true but here they are for consideration of this topic: US, NATO using Depleted Uranium to destroy Afghan's Gene Pool - Press TV video at YouTube [warning - graphic] 0:42 -1:07 "People have...lost their lives...without any physical sign of injury. And then there were, of course...bizarre...you know, scenes where...birds on...on...on trees had melted...and...and that kind of posed the question as to what's going on." The U.S. flatly denies this. poorrichard's blog DU destroying Afghans’ gene pool’ Dr. Mohammad Daud Miraki, the author of Afghanistan After Democracy: The Untold Story Through Photographic Images, told Press TV’s Kabul correspondent on Monday I have seen people die without any physical signs of injuries on their bodies in Afghanistan. There were bizarre scenes of birds melting on trees.” The United States’ use of radioactive munitions in Afghanistan has destroyed the people’s health and mutilated the genetic future of the country, Press TV reports. By Mohammed Daud Miraki, MA, MA, PhD 2-24-3 If they had killed us once, it would not be so bad. But what the Americans have brought upon us [My note: with DU/Depleted Uranium] is not only depriving us but our future generations of our basic god given human right, the right to live. They will be killing us for generations to come" At the fighting front north of Kabul, where Taliban forces were pounded night and day, many dead Taliban soldiers had no visible injuries except blood flowing out of their mouths, internal bleeding consistent with uranium based and chemical weapons. Furthermore, many dead Taliban soldiers had severe discoloration of the skin, orange, without being burned, while others had their rifles melted in their hands. This aroused suspicion among Taliban and others that weapons used by the US-UK military were not conventional weapons. Many Taliban soldiers that survived the bombing in the north have died after returning to their native villages in the south and southeast of the country. They had no physical injury upon their death, however, died from internal bleeding and other bizarre symptoms including uncontrolled vomiting, diarrhea, and blood loss in urine and stool. Their families were shocked with disbelieves. Another bizarre, yet tragic scene was reported near Rish-Khor military base in Kabul. Multiple witnesses reported seeing dead birds on tree branches with blood coming out of their mouths. As one witness put it: We were amazed to see all these birds sitting quietly on [tree] branches; but when we shook the tree the birds fell down and we saw blood coming out of their mouths. Then we climbed the trees to see those that were still stuck on tree branches, all of them had bled from their mouths. Two of the birds appeared to be partly melted into the trees branches." These various claims by witnesses of the US-UK bombing amply establishes that Weapon of Mass Destruction have been used. Efited sentence 1 + for brevity and formatting. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
It's already been discussed elsewhere in this 4um at length that the evidence indicates something involving electromagnetism -- perhaps even micro/mini nukes. So now you think radio waves brought down the towers? Explain to me how a radio wave brought down a 110 story building. As far as any sort of nuke, that has been eliminated due to the facts I present further below, which I have also previously presented on other threads. We know that there were surivors in Japan within the atomic blast zones. Oh really? Go find ANY reference on the Internet which exists that states there were survivors at Ground Zero in Hiroshima or Nagasaki. The temperature turns as hot as that of the Sun, so go find me some people who survived several millions degrees of heat, besides being dosed with levels of radiation which would instantly kill them. Apparently, you want us to believe that wouldn't be the case on 9/11 with a smaller nuke either of some sort You were selling neutron bombs earlier, then once you figured out they emit WAY more radiation than coventional nuclear devices, and would have killed people in surrounding areas instantly with lethal radiation, you decided to move to the "micro-nuke" idea. What part of sequential failure do you not understand? For one, a nuclear device would ONLY have blown out the immediate area of detonation, it would not have resulted in a top down collapse, floor by floor, of the structure. A bright burst would have been visible, and there would have been an instant pulverization of surrounding structure, most likely in a spherical pattern. or with Directed Energy weaponry either Again, point out what sort of weapon would cause a sequential floor by floor collapse at near free fall speed. Where would it be fired from, and where would it get its energy? Find ANY sort of DEW technology online that could cause a sequential failure to occur... but somehow they would survive being flash-fried by a nano- thermite/thermate explosion -- because it was actually a very low to no-flash form of thermite/thermate that didn't produce much light or heat, just "pancake powder"?? Do you know what an EXPLOSIVE is? Have you ever seen conventional explosives used to bring down a structure? Conventional explosives produce tremendously high pressure, pulverizing anything in their blast radius. Larger bursts produce the sort of pulverization witnessed in the WTC collapse. Advanced explosives composed of nano-thermite would most likely provide not only much higher pressures than conventional explosives, but also would be fine tunable in terms of detonation speed depending on their particle size. The so-called pancaking powder flew up and outward as the buildings came down. That tells us that there wasn't the weight crashing down that would be required to pulverize the structures. With the underlying floors having their support links destroyed by explosives sequentially, there would be little or no resistance to the collapsing mass of debris coming from above. As the air between the floors was instantly compressed to extremely high pressure by the sudden compression of space between the collapsing mass and the floor below, enhanced by the explosive high pressure coming from the explosives themselves, debris was ejected outwards at explosive speeds. As the debris fell, a huge void of air was formed above the collapsing mass, causing air to rush in from all directions to fill that void. That air contained clouds of dust and drifted upwards once the air in the void had returned back to normal pressure. 9/11 was an Act of War against us, not some campfire-story fashion show that has to be reduced to conformity with a short-stack of thermitic flap- jacks, syrupy molten metal, and remote controlled butter-planes on the side to suit your group. You're trying to dismiss known facts as if they didn't exist. Planes DID impact the towers, since there is not ONE person who has come forward stating that they had a clear view of the impact area and saw no plane, but did witness an explosion. The entrance holes were there, and there WAS smoke rising from the damaged areas. Remote controlled aircraft crashing into the towers is a much more likely sceneraio than relying on Captain Kirk and the starship Enterprise firing a controlled phaser blast from Earth orbit. Just for kicks, you might want to explain how crashing and exploding planes wouldn't severely damage the sequencing of a preset controlled demolition or immediately trigger a C4Thermitic one. For one, if the planes were flown remotely, it'd be known EXACTLY where they would impact. It would not be difficult to avoid placing explosives in the area of planned impact.
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#29. To: FormerLurker (#26)
#30. To: titorite, Lod, RickyJ (#19)
Real Truthers ALWAYS CARE. Always. We can not give up, we do not forget, we get to the bottom of things and we share what we learn and you can take it or leave it.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#31. To: FormerLurker (#30)
#32. To: Lod (#29)
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I wouldn't dismiss neutron bombs to smoke the towers.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#33. To: Lod (#31)
I have never profaned you.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#34. To: Lod, RickyJ (#31)
Get a grip.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#35. To: farmfriend (#28)
when did this conversation wander into the role of the media?
#36. To: FormerLurker, lod, GreyLmist, wudidiz, RickyJ, horse, itistoolate, christine, all, Ping, pang walla walla bing bang. (#30)
Each and every time I have attempted to present facts when conversing with you in regards to the 9/11 attacks, you have attacked me with a barrage of profantities and insults, along with wild claims with no basis in fact.
#37. To: titorite (#36)
We know we have all kinds of DEW weapons
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#38. To: titorite, christine, tom007, RickyJ, *9-11* (#36)
D.A.P.A.R. doesn't make wicker baskets
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#39. To: All, *9-11* (#36)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#40. To: FormerLurker (#38)
A controlled sequence of detonations using C4 cutting charges, enhanced perhaps with the addition of nano-thermite,
"Satan / Cheney in "08" 
#41. To: FormerLurker (#37)
Name me ONE which can bring down a 110 story skyscraper.
#42. To: Lod (#29)
Like you, I've read and viewed it all.
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#43. To: tom007 (#40)
Something pulverized the concrete, in sequence, and it wasn't a pancaking building from ten stories above.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#44. To: tom007 (#40)
We are total FOOLS for going along with this shit. There I said it.
#45. To: Lod (#22)
(Edited)
You're wrong - he cares greatly about learning the truth.
#46. To: RickyJ (#45)
(Edited)
He won't address that because he doesn't care about the truth.
#47. To: titorite (#41)
(Edited)
High intensity Laser,microwave resonance, perhaps a micro kinetic pellet...I mean, how much do you know about coil guns? Or DEW weapons in general? Are you intimate with the wide range of subject matter and what is in use?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#48. To: titorite, Lod (#46)
Well,
#49. To: FormerLurker (#47)
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#50. To: RickyJ, FormerLurker (#48)
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Sigh
#51. To: titorite (#41)
Now, you brought up my miss spelling of D.A.R.P.A. . Was their a reason you did not use proper punctuation of the acronym?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#52. To: RickyJ (#49)
Any directed energy weapon that would turn concrete and steel beams into dust surely would have killed any humans as well.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#53. To: titorite, RickyJ (#50)
At least I think we all know now where you two stand in the line and what loyalties yall perfer serve.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#54. To: FormerLurker (#52)
There are other factors which eliminates directed energy weapons as well.
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#55. To: RickyJ (#45)
He won't address that because he doesn't care about the truth.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#56. To: tom007 (#54)
The towers were blown outward, No?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#57. To: Horse (#0)
#58. To: Turtle (#57)
Isn't it interesting that you can tell someone is a lunatic just from her face?
#59. To: FormerLurker, *9-11* (#52)
(Edited)
If we had such weapons, we would be using them right now against any nation that the elites wanted to attack. It would be more devastating than the nuclear bomb, and such unbalanced power would most assuredly result in a global conflict of unmatched proportion.
#60. To: GreyLmist (#59)
#61. To: FormerLurker (#55)
(Edited)
Thus far, he's called on me to disprove Judy Wood's work, where her OWN previous work demonstrates the opposite of what he is claiming.
#62. To: RickyJ (#60)
(Edited)
Why is it that you think a directed energy weapon could be contained within such a narrow range as the building and produce such massive damage yet leave human survivors? Please, we all weren't born yesterday. The firemen heard explosions before the building started coming down. What you saw on TV was tons of explosives going off sequentially on each floor. You ask what about the impact zone? Well, you think there was no real planes, so that shouldn't be a problem for you, but you will also notice that the impact zone was the only area that did not explode, the rest of the building did, but the impact area didn't. Obviously they didn't have any explosives in that area.
#63. To: titorite, farmfriend, All (#35)
(Edited)
farmfriend: when did this conversation wander into the role of the media?
#64. To: GreyLmist (#63)
#65. To: GreyLmist, FormerLurker, *9-11*, *No Planers* (#59)
9/11 was an Act of War against us, not some campfire-story fashion show that has to be reduced to conformity with a short-stack of thermitic flap- jacks, syrupy molten metal, and remote controlled butter-planes on the side to suit your group. Just for kicks, you might want to explain how crashing and exploding planes wouldn't severely damage the sequencing of a preset controlled demolition or immediately trigger a C4Thermitic one.
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry
#66. To: titorite, All (#64)
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#67. To: GreyLmist, wudidiz, *9-11* (#59)
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"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
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