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Title: 911 and Thermite, The official Conspiracy Theory?
Source: YouTube
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=505uzsWbC30
Published: May 9, 2011
Author: 108morris108
Post Date: 2012-11-23 15:54:13 by GreyLmist
Keywords: 9/11, Andrew Johnson, Steven Jones, Thermites Theory
Views: 1816
Comments: 67

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Thermite does not turn steel to dust. Thermite does create a lot of flames. Each tower weighed 500,000 tons, no-one has seen anything like the quantity of flames that thermite would have created. Many more anomalies too. Burned out vehicles alongside unburnt paper (a lot of it) left intact. [sic]

Thermite is simply Aluminium and Iron Oxide, two substances which were in great quantity in the Towers.


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Jones' Thermite Theory evidently not published as peer reviewed.

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#18. To: GreyLmist (#0)

It's true that thermite, even the minute amounts that cling to processed steel, has explosive and combustible features. The remarkable thing is that these features were not known until after Sept 11th. In fact it was examination of the building debris that made that discovery possible.

As no one was watching out for thermite when the WTC was being built, it is possible that there was enough thermite embedded in the structure to intensify or accelerate the building's collapse. But this would have been a surprise to everyone. This may explain why some architects and others insist - by relying on pre-2001 data - that there was something impossible about the way the building fell.

Shoonra  posted on  2012-11-23   22:28:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Shoonra (#18) (Edited)

It's true that thermite, even the minute amounts that cling to processed steel, has explosive and combustible features. The remarkable thing is that these features were not known until after Sept 11th. In fact it was examination of the building debris that made that discovery possible.

Thing is Shoonra, the thermite found wasn't ordinary thermite, it was determined to be nanothermite, which is only available from military weapons sources, or for SOME commericial applications such as explosives.

As far as thermite being present on processed steel, can you find me any sort of reference which makes that assertion?

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-11-23   22:37:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: FormerLurker (#20)

Right. Weapons grade, availlable only to the military and military connected. Much like the weapon grade anthrax unleashed after 9/11.

Obnoxicated  posted on  2012-11-24   0:24:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Obnoxicated (#22)

Weapons grade, availlable only to the military and military connected. Much like the weapon grade anthrax unleashed after 9/11.

I never really looked into nano-thermite in any depth until today. To find out it has been researched for use as an explosive by the military sheds new light on the overall picture.

So THAT is most likely why they found nano-thermite in the debris, IT was most probably the explosive used in the demolition of the towers.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-11-24   0:29:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: FormerLurker (#23)

They had to silence Steven Jones the best they could since he found hard evidence that it was indeed an inside job. He loses his job at BYU, while this nut Judy is still working and trying to sell a book now. They don't fear Judy, she is on their side anyway.

RickyJ  posted on  2012-11-24   4:23:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: RickyJ (#24)

He loses his job at BYU

Collapse of the Thermite Thesis (with Addendum)

Shortly after he learned that Dr. Wood lost her job and became unemployed, Jones announced he had been “forced out” of his job and diverted attention onto his claims of persecution, playing the victim card again. It became known that Jones had moved to a new residence, then a few months later retired and was promoted to Professor Emeritus, the highest level of achievement for a professor. Someone fired from his job is not promoted. Jones did not go without an income. So, if Jones was not fired but promoted, why has he played the martyr? The timing and focus strongly suggest it was a useful diversion. But no matter the motive, the conclusion is that Jones is dishonest.

And the same can be said of Jones’ thermite myth. Thermite is also a diversion, stalling and playing out the clock for the perps. Thermite is used in welding. It does not turn a building to powder in mid air.

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-11-26   9:16:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: GreyLmist (#30)

Thermite is used in welding. It does not turn a building to powder in mid air.

Keep posting half-truths. It's already clear that the military AND national laboratories have been developing nano-thermite explosives for quite some time prior to 9/11.

AND, nano-thermite WAS found in the WTC debris. How'd it get there, elves perhaps?

As far as turning a building to "powder", ANY controlled demolition would have done that if a top down series of explosions were coordinated with the actual collapse.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-11-26   13:54:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: FormerLurker, GreyLmist (#36)

Thermite is used in welding. It does not turn a building to powder in mid air.

Keep posting half-truths. It's already clear that the military AND national laboratories have been developing nano-thermite explosives for quite some time prior to 9/11.

AND, nano-thermite WAS found in the WTC debris. How'd it get there, elves perhaps?

As far as turning a building to "powder", ANY controlled demolition would have done that if a top down series of explosions were coordinated with the actual collapse.

There's a photo of Ground Zero workers sitting in front of a beam that had been cut off with a cutting charge, probably in a clay or porcelain mold. The perfect slag melt with no splatters is proof that the vertical beam wasn't cut (after the collapse) with a wrecker's torch or lance.

No, nano thermite is all the proof needed to swing the guilty from the gallows.

We shouldn't confuse it with fairie dust after the fact.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2012-11-26   14:08:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: HOUNDDAWG (#37)

There's a photo of Ground Zero workers sitting in front of a beam that had been cut off with a cutting charge...

I remember that. IIRC, it was cut about a 45 degree angle, no?

Esso  posted on  2012-11-26   14:49:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Esso (#40)

photo of Ground Zero workers sitting in front of a beam that had been cut off with a cutting charge...

I remember that. IIRC, it was cut about a 45 degree angle, no?

Yes! and the slag was formed in a perfect outside bead with no splash over, (ceramic mold) and it would have been impossible (and entirely too dangerous, even with a crane sling spotting the beam to protect the worker from sudden death) to cut that box beam from the inside with a torch or a lance.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2012-11-28   18:19:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#51. To: HOUNDDAWG, Esso, *9-11* (#46)

HOUNDDAWG: photo of Ground Zero workers sitting in front of a beam that had been cut off with a cutting charge...

Esso: I remember that. IIRC, it was cut about a 45 degree angle, no?

HOUNDDAWG: Yes! and the slag was formed in a perfect outside bead with no splash over, (ceramic mold) and it would have been impossible (and entirely too dangerous, even with a crane sling spotting the beam to protect the worker from sudden death) to cut that box beam from the inside with a torch or a lance.

Can you post a pic, HOUNDDAWG, or is it in the references below?:

Pic link: socioecohistory.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/911_shape_charge_evidence1. jpg

Angled cut column explained.

Some things to consider:

1. The pic in question could be a staged photo op.

2. Cutter charges and even thermite in some form might have been used in the clean up. If so, that might give false readings in test samples taken later to investigate controlled demolition. However, neither Jones' group nor Architects and Engineers have moved to establish test-confirmation of explosives like C4 and PETN to prove controlled demolition. Why not?

3. The angle cut may be telling us more than whatever it looks like at first glance. The structural-strength point being, afaik, that when the sections of steel are removed to make an angled cut like that, the steel still doesn't fall over -- even though it has been so damaged -- until it is torched across from behind on the intact side.

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