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Title: The Advent of PC & the Pussification of Amerikka
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Published: Nov 23, 2012
Author: Rabbi Essogoldberg, mohel-at-large
Post Date: 2012-11-23 18:29:36 by Esso
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Views: 589
Comments: 18

The first recollection I have of extreme PC is what happened to the comedian Andrew Dice Clay (born Andrew Clay Silverstein; September 29, 1957). He was a lot like the Marx Brothers or The Three Stooges, either people loved or hated them, there was no middle ground. The attacks on Clay started during the George Herbert Walker Bush regime which lasted from January 20, 1989 to January 20, 1993.

From the Andrew Dice Clay Wikipedia page:

Clay is known for a style of comedy that has sparked controversy and much media coverage. He is loved by some and reviled by others, who feel that his act is crude, misogynistic, racist, homophobic and degrading. Clay has been widely opposed by women's rights groups and he has been banned from many radio and television shows for his explicit language and socially and politically charged humor. MTV banned him for life in 1989 for reciting what he called "adult nursery rhymes" during the annual Video Music Awards ceremony (September 6, 1989). In 2011 the ban was lifted by MTV.

In 1990, Clay was invited to guest host the weekly comedy TV show Saturday Night Live. Cast member Nora Dunn declared her refusal to ever appear on the same broadcast as Clay and did not participate in the episode of his guest appearance (May 12). SNL alumnus Jon Lovitz discussed Dunn's boycott of the show in detail during an episode of “The ABC’s of SNL” with director Kevin Smith. "It's the last show of the season. Nora...she caused a lot of trouble. [She] was very hard to get along with, and they weren't going to ask her back, anyway...And this is how the press works. And I'm telling you I'm on the inside of this. They don't know the story. It's like she's just doing it to get press. It's her last hurrah. They're not asking her back onto the show."

Invited musical guest Sinéad O'Connor also boycotted Clay's appearance.

In a 2006 interview with CNN, Clay was asked by the interviewer if he had been running a gym since his comedy career diminished. He then proceeded, before walking out of the interview, to go on a profanity laced tirade that the news anchors never know what they are talking about.

Seems like it's bee all downhill from there. If a little boy acts like a little boy should, he's chemically castrated & lobotomized with Ritalin or other drugs. If a man acts like a man used to, he becomes an outcast or is charged with sexual harassment.

I'm pretty sure that most of the things that I did or said during the 1980s as a young man are now considered felonies. I miss those times. I used to like "Miami Vice" too. So kill me.


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#1. To: Esso (#0)

I'm pretty sure that most of the things that I did or said during the 1980s as a young man are now considered felonies.

At least crimes against nature (whatever that may be construed to be prosecuted).

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2012-11-23   18:40:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Lod (#0)

Seems like it's bee all downhill from there.

I've got the consonants covered. We should be ready for any shortage that comes along.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2012-11-23   18:50:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Lod (#1)

At least crimes against nature

No, I'm 99 & 44/100ths percent sure I was doing things exactly as nature intended. That's the problem now, I refuse to jump aboard the "hip to be a homo" bandwagon.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2012-11-23   18:58:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Esso (#0)

Nora Dunn

I Googled her and didn't recognize her.

There are actually govt agents who spread conspiracy theories among the gullible to help promote the illusion that the govt is all powerful.

Turtle  posted on  2012-11-23   18:58:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Turtle (#4)

If she was so pissy about Clay, most likely she's a lesbo.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2012-11-23   19:18:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Esso (#0)

he becomes an outcast

hummm... you say this like it is an issue....

Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies

"Don't Tread on Me", originally a war cry of Benjamin Franklin during America's fight for independence, has come to symbolize the American spirit. It first appeared on the Gadsen flag (named for and by General Christopher Gadsen) which featured the slogan below a coiled rattlesnake that was ready to attack. The snake (along with the slogan) came to symbolize America as an animal that would never strike first, but when provoked, would never give in. Today, it also symbolizes and celebrates personal independence and perseverance.

Refinersfire  posted on  2012-11-23   20:04:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Refinersfire (#6)

you say this like it is an issue...

Not for me, I'm a contractor, not an office worker. I'm expected to be plain-spoken, tough as nails and able to handle any crisis that comes up. My only concern with political correctness, which I perceive as the outlawing of common sense, is how badly that it has weakened this country.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2012-11-23   20:37:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Esso (#0)

The Diceman never discriminated, he treated pretty much everybody equally. Sure he was foul mouthed and obscene, but MANY people found it funny, until the social engineers decided we can't have THAT sort of humor coming from a white man, who's straight, and who pulls no punches whatsoever.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-11-23   23:10:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Esso (#0)


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-11-23   23:13:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Esso (#0)

Same time frame as the start of college speech codes.

I used to like "Miami Vice" too. So kill me.

How innocent the audience had to have been to like Miami Vice, Murder she wrote, etc.

"Mr. Prime Minister, there is only one important question facing us, and that is the question whether the white race will survive." -- Leonid Brezhnev to James Callahan

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2012-11-24   0:25:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#10)

Same time frame as the start of college speech codes.

I was long past college at the time of the GHWB regime. Do you think that's about when the downhill slide into PC madness took hold? I don't recall much of that during the Reagan era.

How innocent the audience had to have been to like Miami Vice, Murder she wrote, etc.

Not really sure what you mean.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2012-11-24   9:33:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: FormerLurker (#8)

The Diceman never discriminated, he treated pretty much everybody equally. Sure he was foul mouthed and obscene, but MANY people found it funny, until the social engineers decided we can't have THAT sort of humor coming from a white man, who's straight, and who pulls no punches whatsoever.

I never really paid too much attention to him until they made such a big deal about attacking him. It really seemed to go against that whole free speech thingy.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2012-11-24   9:37:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: FormerLurker (#9)

GOOD LORD! Did you see all that smoking? And in public! Criminy, he was the devil.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2012-11-24   9:41:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Esso (#13)

GOOD LORD! Did you see all that smoking? And in public! Criminy, he was the devil.

Hell, today they'd just taze him to death on stage for hate speech violations along with public smoking infractions.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-11-24   16:30:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: FormerLurker (#14)

I think Fort Wayne was a lot better place before it became a smoke-free Utopia.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2012-11-24   16:45:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Esso (#15)

I think Fort Wayne was a lot better place before it became a smoke-free Utopia.

I'd bet the lung cancer rate hasn't gone down either, since more than a few coal fired plants spewing radioactive contaminants are still operating in that state.

Coal-fired power stations in Indiana

Coal Ash Is More Radioactive than Nuclear Waste


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-11-24   16:50:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: FormerLurker (#16)

I'd bet the lung cancer rate hasn't gone down either...

Last I checked a couple years ago, lung cancer rates were up 600% even though almost no one smokes anymore.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2012-11-24   17:14:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Esso (#11)

I was long past college at the time of the GHWB regime. Do you think that's about when the downhill slide into PC madness took hold?

I think mine was the last class to graduate from the University of Wisconsin-Madison without having to satisfy an ethnic studies requirement. Donna Shalala was chancellor at the time, Bush the first was president, and the push for speech codes started.

How innocent the audience had to have been to like Miami Vice, Murder she wrote, etc.

Not really sure what you mean.

The TV villians were both not very bright and not terribly depraved.

Nobody today would fall for the schemes. Nobody today would believe that anybody would fall for the schemes, because all distrust all.

"Mr. Prime Minister, there is only one important question facing us, and that is the question whether the white race will survive." -- Leonid Brezhnev to James Callahan

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2012-11-25   13:15:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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