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Title: Vatican Official Refutes Intelligent Design
Source: Yahoo News
URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051118/ap_on_re_eu/vatican_evolution
Published: Nov 18, 2005
Author: Nicole Winfield
Post Date: 2005-11-18 16:58:22 by Zipporah
Keywords: Intelligent, Official, Vatican
Views: 1116
Comments: 66

VATICAN CITY - The Vatican's chief astronomer said Friday that "intelligent design" isn't science and doesn't belong in science classrooms, the latest high-ranking Roman Catholic official to enter the evolution debate in the United States.

The Rev. George Coyne, the Jesuit director of the Vatican Observatory, said placing intelligent design theory alongside that of evolution in school programs was "wrong" and was akin to mixing apples with oranges.

"Intelligent design isn't science even though it pretends to be," the ANSA news agency quoted Coyne as saying on the sidelines of a conference in Florence. "If you want to teach it in schools, intelligent design should be taught when religion or cultural history is taught, not science."

His comments were in line with his previous statements on "intelligent design" — whose supporters hold that the universe is so complex that it must have been created by a higher power.

Proponents of intelligent design are seeking to get public schools in the United States to teach it as part of the science curriculum. Critics say intelligent design is merely creationism — a literal reading of the Bible's story of creation — camouflaged in scientific language, and they say it does not belong in science curriculum.

In a June article in the British Catholic magazine The Tablet, Coyne reaffirmed God's role in creation, but said science explains the history of the universe.

"If they respect the results of modern science, and indeed the best of modern biblical research, religious believers must move away from the notion of a dictator God or a designer God, a Newtonian God who made the universe as a watch that ticks along regularly."

Rather, he argued, God should be seen more as an encouraging parent.

"God in his infinite freedom continuously creates a world that reflects that freedom at all levels of the evolutionary process to greater and greater complexity," he wrote. "He is not continually intervening, but rather allows, participates, loves."

The Vatican Observatory, which Coyne heads, is one of the oldest astronomical research institutions in the world. It is based in the papal summer residence at Castel Gandolfo south of Rome.

Last week, Pope Benedict XVI waded indirectly into the evolution debate by saying the universe was made by an "intelligent project" and criticizing those who in the name of science say its creation was without direction or order.

Questions about the Vatican's position on evolution were raised in July by Austrian Cardinal Christoph Schoenborn.

In a New York Times column, Schoenborn seemed to back intelligent design and dismissed a 1996 statement by Pope John Paul II that evolution was "more than just a hypothesis." Schoenborn said the late pope's statement was "rather vague and unimportant."

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#21. To: Zipporah, mirage, A K A Stone (#0)

I was raised Catholic but no longer consider myself catholic. I personally have a lot of problems with the catholic church/faith. Sure there are valid questions about history and origins of the Bible et al, but I don't believe any institution of man holds the keys to eternal life. Considering the Catholic Church as "holy" or similar because of it's historical origins is dangerous territory. Doing things out of habit in vain repetition is not something I think God wants from us, and the Catholic Church basically considers it's traditions to be as sacred as the Bible. (That from my Catholic University professor, at least).

Here in Ecuador, Mary is given so much attention it really bothers me. Paintings and statues here give her a bigger halo or crown than Jesus has. It's mind boggling to me that would be so, since even given Catholic theology, Mary couldn't possibly be more special than Jesus.

I don't buy it, and while asking others for prayer is fine, asking Mary or others who have died to intercede for you in silent meditation doesn't cut it for me, and further cuts too close to idolotry. There is only One true intercessor and that's Jesus himself. The whole point of His coming here was to be like us. Why go elsewhere when He's all you need?

Neil McIver  posted on  2005-11-18   18:19:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Neil McIver (#21)

I too was raised catholic...Irish Catholic. There are many reasons I left the catholic church, the worship of Mary being just one. A persons faith depends on their relationship with Christ not some dogma past down through generations. The doctrine of papal infallibility...of him sitting on the seat of Christ here on earth can be found nowhere in the bible. That being said I know many fine catholic folk who love Christ and have dedicated their lives to Him and His service.

I will say this, I have always loved the catholic form of worship. There is a...how can I say it....a reverence in their mass that I find lacking in many protestant assemblies.

Wrench  posted on  2005-11-18   18:44:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Wrench (#28)

I will say this, I have always loved the catholic form of worship. There is a...how can I say it....a reverence in their mass that I find lacking in many protestant assemblies.

Not much to get excited about in 16/17th century northern europe, cold most of the time, vikings had settled down...In italy they had just discovered pasta, sunbathing, and aviation.

Dakmar  posted on  2005-11-18   19:17:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Dakmar (#42)

Ah shaddap before I sling a cat at you.

Wrench  posted on  2005-11-18   19:24:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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