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Title: the house passed CISPA
Source: me
URL Source: http://na
Published: Nov 29, 2012
Author: me
Post Date: 2012-11-29 20:57:22 by TommyTheMadArtist
Keywords: government, emails, no warrant
Views: 421
Comments: 23

CISPA passed the house today. TODAY. It was rammed through today, and now the Senate will vote n it. When it passes, sites like this one will be compelled to hand over user info.

If this had happened under Bush, the libs would be screaming, but here we are, dead silence on it.

If the Senate passes it, I am done with the internet.

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#1. To: christine, TommyTheMadArtist, 4um (#0)

I've thought for a long time now that the "Latest Comments" should be closed to everyone except signed in members.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2012-11-29   21:35:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#0)

If the Senate passes it, I am done with the internet.

The Senate will pass it. Then, we will all be considered "enemies of the state" for expressing our 1st Amendment rights.

sizzlerguy  posted on  2012-11-29   21:41:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#0)

Fuck em.

"Bankers" - Kill em all and let Satan sort em out" !!!

noone222  posted on  2012-11-29   21:42:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: noone222 (#3)

Fuck em.

There's that too.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2012-11-29   21:48:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: noone222 (#3) (Edited)

Fuck em.

LOUDER!!!

F-U-C-K

THEM

Fuck them to their rotten apple heartless cores. Do not let the slime control you. We should all Speak freely and think constantly. I can talk all day about what is "educational" and I can speak freely in open support of secession and rebellion because whatever nation this was originally founded as... well that is not this nation. The foundations have changed. This aint the USA....

Fuck it... good while it lasted... How about yall all join the 100,000 in down here in support of a free texas.

_______________________________________________________________________________ The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself,Take Action!!!

titorite  posted on  2012-11-29   23:36:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: titorite (#5)

Fuck them to their rotten apple heartless cores. Do not let the slime control you.

The so-called authorities "ONLY" have the power given them by a compromised society that thinks they benefit from the convenience of tyranny and are too fearful to free themselves.

In a "one on one" confrontation, none of these asshats would survive. They depend upon the beneficiaries of govt largesse to shield them from liberty seekers that have had enough of this sick government ruining their lives and destroying the country.

Treason has conspired with Greed and Murder in "OUR" country. I will not be an accomplice !

"Bankers" - Kill em all and let Satan sort em out" !!!

noone222  posted on  2012-11-30   8:01:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: titorite (#5)

Not on my watch !

Treason has conspired with Greed and Murder in "OUR" country. I will not be an accomplice !

"Bankers" - Kill em all and let Satan sort em out" !!!

noone222  posted on  2012-11-30   8:26:22 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#0)

ive never even heard of "cispa" before your post.But i think it'd be a big mistake for you to quit the internet.They can already spy on everyone & already know who the "troublemakers"are.As was said above, fuck 'em. who cares what they think of our posts?

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-11-30   9:04:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: All (#8)

furthermore, all this business about they can find out who we are & come get us!" nonsense if even true, is more reason to be absolute in loudly espousing your priciples & God given right.Whatre "they" gonna do? "Come get us?". Laughable. bring it on.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-11-30   9:07:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: noone222 (#7)

Not on my watch !

Not in my name, is what I said. I got tired of waiting and went on general strike last April. So far it hasn't brought the leviathan to its knees, but has eased my troubled mind.

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Hmmmmm  posted on  2012-11-30   9:30:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Artisan (#9)

Whatre "they" gonna do? "Come get us?". Laughable. bring it on.

We're not a bunch of defenseless subjects. They'll be afraid to bring it on.


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Critter  posted on  2012-11-30   9:31:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Critter (#11)

We're not a bunch of defenseless subjects

Exactly. I know a guy who had the secret service come to his door. he filmed them, refused to talk off camera & they left, never to return.He then posted it on youtube & they were mocked worldwide. not too "scary".

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-11-30   9:45:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#0)

Tommy, we can live the rest of our lives in silence, or fight those who demand it. Since their lust for complete power will never be satisfied, I say we fight. I'm not suggesting you do the same, that's your choice, but by choosing to surrender your Constitutional right to free speech is to hand them a voluntary victory.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-11-30   10:06:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#0) (Edited)

I've assumed for several years that "somebody" had the ability and $$$ to surf the internet all day long looking for dissent. Guess what: they see that they're outnumbered because there just aren't that many friends of Uncle Scam these days. The only way they have to ruin our day is to use the IRS or the TSA to give us trouble. Now, throw in some armed drones and that's a wildcard that changes everything.....

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X-15  posted on  2012-11-30   10:38:09 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#0)

the house passed CISPA

I passed gas !

Treason has conspired with Greed and Murder in "OUR" country. I will not be an accomplice !

"Bankers" - Kill em all and let Satan sort em out" !!!

noone222  posted on  2012-11-30   14:17:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Esso (#1)

I've thought for a long time now that the "Latest Comments" should be closed to everyone except signed in members.

A private forum setting is already a feature here.

Pinguinite  posted on  2012-11-30   15:06:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Pinguinite (#16)

Hi Pinguinite. Been a long time since I communicated with you. I've been looking at the web in a different light. Are VPN's worth the money, and would creating new memberships to online forums after using a VPN be worth the trouble?

Ragin1  posted on  2012-12-01   12:38:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Ragin1 (#17)

How likely are you to be a target of government harassment? How important is your privacy?

I pay about ten bucks a month for the wifes VPN. It over comes internet capping, bans, blocks, and tracking.

If you wanted to turn digitally invisible then Yes Go VPN, re-regeister everywhere,use new email addresses, and watch your wordings and your typos.

OR Condemn for violating your constitutional rights. Insist they be upheld, Fight to make sure it happens resist with all force necessary to overcome.

_______________________________________________________________________________ The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself,Take Action!!!

titorite  posted on  2012-12-01   14:16:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: titorite, Ragin1, 4 (#18)

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“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2012-12-01   14:22:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Lod (#19)

www.ibvpn.com/

They are up and coming and so full of awesome.

_______________________________________________________________________________ The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself,Take Action!!!

titorite  posted on  2012-12-01   15:06:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: titorite (#20)

Huh!

What's the degree of difficulty in getting it up and running?

Thanks.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2012-12-01   15:33:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#0) (Edited)

If this had happened under Bush, the libs would be screaming, but here we are, dead silence on it.

You are right about the libs' blind love for Bammy and His administration. But if you look specifically at the House's votes on CISPA, actually more GOP were pro CISPA than Dimwits. And the legislation itself was sponsored by Rogers, a GOP.

news.cnet.com/8301-31921_...spa-would-affect-you-faq/

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While CISPA initially wasn't an especially partisan bill -- it cleared the House Intelligence Committee by a vote of 17 to 1 last December -- it gradually moved in that direction. The final tally was 206 Republicans voting for it, and 28 opposed. Of the Democrats, 42 voted for CISPA and 140 were opposed. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said afterward on Twitter that CISPA "didn't strike the right balance" and Republicans "didn't allow amendments to strengthen privacy protections."

scrapper2  posted on  2012-12-01   15:52:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Ragin1 (#17)

Hi Pinguinite. Been a long time since I communicated with you. I've been looking at the web in a different light. Are VPN's worth the money, and would creating new memberships to online forums after using a VPN be worth the trouble?

I guess it depends on your personal needs/goals. I'd suggest as far as net privacy goes, probably the #1 thing one can do is encrypt your email using PGP/GPG encryption. That and don't use facebook, or if you do..... well, just don't. But email is normally openly readable to anyone, especially the US Gov, and it also contains a lot of private information.

Only problem is the people you email need to be willing to go through the trouble of decrypting your emails.

Ideally though, all net communication should be encrypted. Email, web sites, chats VOIP call, everything.

As for VPN, I'll defer to what others here have to say about it. Never used one myself. Well, almost never.

Pinguinite  posted on  2012-12-02   1:32:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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