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Title: Alex Jones Compars Judy Wood 911 Analysis to "Space Beams"
Source: you tube
URL Source: http://youtu.be/3p5VibTaUeQ
Published: Dec 1, 2012
Author: Santilli Covering AJ/Bermas Idiocy
Post Date: 2012-12-01 09:57:34 by abraxas
Keywords: None
Views: 3273
Comments: 142

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#1. To: abraxas (#0)

Indeed , it pays to know the information from the horses mouth.

_______________________________________________________________________________ The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself,Take Action!!!

titorite  posted on  2012-12-01   10:24:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: titorite (#1) (Edited)

I've never been an AJ fan.......if you need a bullhorn to get people to listen to you, then you don't have anything pertinent to say, IMHO. He's so rude to people....why do so many follow like sheep?

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2012-12-01   10:34:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: abraxas (#0)


"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

wudidiz  posted on  2012-12-01   10:51:58 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: wudidiz (#3)

LOL! I need a copy of those posters.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2012-12-01   10:53:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: abraxas (#4)

Says it all, eh


"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

wudidiz  posted on  2012-12-01   11:10:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: abraxas (#2)

why do so many follow like sheep?

Your question answers itself.

The traits of self reliance and rugged individualism have been systematically eliminated from Western populations.

‘Gentlemen, if you’ve ever thought about it,
the quality of a man’s life is directly proportionate to
his commitment to excellence.’
~Vince Lombardi

Buzzard  posted on  2012-12-01   13:12:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: abraxas (#0)

Alex Jones Compars Judy Wood 911 Analysis to "Space Beams"

The title says it all. I wonder if AJ would be surprised to know that NORAD controlled the planes that hit the Twin Towers? Just asking. ROTFLOL!

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-12-01   15:03:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Buzzard (#6)

Your question answers itself.

LOL.....touche!

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2012-12-01   15:52:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: BTP Holdings (#7)

The self proclaimed "truther" has to put up the gates on alternate perspectives, as Alex wouldn't want any followers to think for themselves if their thoughts are not aligned with his. William Cooper had him pinned from the get go.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2012-12-01   15:54:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: abraxas (#9)

its simplistic to assume that listeners are "followers/sheep" particularly given the fact that jones harshest critics are former listeners/fans.Also the list of colleages he's burnt bridges with.Its Ok to listen to many radio shows/sources.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-12-01   23:05:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: All, wudidiz, abraxas (#10)

One recent defector from the jones camp is Mark Dice. Its amusing but pitiful his obsession on revenge with jones.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-12-01   23:10:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: abraxas (#0) (Edited)

Didn't watch the video since I don't really care to hear anything about Judy Woods or Alex Jones. Dis-info agents putting on a show fight while they all peddle dis-info and sheep eat it up. There is no real rift in 9/11 truth movement, just among the sheep who don't think for themselves.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-12-01   23:18:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Artisan (#10) (Edited)

Its Ok to listen to many radio shows/sources.

If you are seeking entertainment then it is OK to listen to people like Jones, Limbaugh, Mark Dice, Judy Woods etc..., but if you are seeking facts and the truth, look elsewhere.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-12-01   23:21:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: abraxas (#2)

what radio shows do you like or recommend? i listen to quite a bit of podcasts. Some of my faves are iamthewitness, dr. kevin barrett, dr katherine albrecht, ZCF, FreeTalkLive, & Mike Rivero.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-12-01   23:24:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: RickyJ (#13)

The fact is that most every anti-zionist got their start either as a jones supporter or a jones colleague. Honest people will give credit to the large body of very good work jones has done & still does on a wide variety of issues.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-12-01   23:29:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: BTP Holdings (#7)

The title says it all. I wonder if AJ would be surprised to know that NORAD controlled the planes that hit the Twin Towers? Just asking. ROTFLOL!

The answer is AJ knows that the planes were remote controlled. Judy Woods says there were no planes. It was just a figment of our imaginations, a product of lasers.

ratcat  posted on  2012-12-02   0:19:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Artisan (#10)

its simplistic to assume that listeners are "followers/sheep" particularly given the fact that jones harshest critics are former listeners/fans.

I agree in part, but how do you account for fans who continue to tune in after insults for not hopping onto his bandwagon? I see his harshest critics as those who once tuned in but now tune out as well...because they are on to his game. Yes, multiple sources broadens perspective.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2012-12-02   11:32:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Artisan (#14)

Of your list, Mike Rivero. I also like Pete Santilli and Jeff Rense broadcasts. Unfortunately, I haven't had the time to tune into many shows lately. Are all your recommendations on the web?

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2012-12-02   11:34:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Artisan (#11)

Its amusing but pitiful his obsession on revenge with jones.

He must have been taking notes on obsession/revenge from Jones as he has a long history of such pitiful behavior.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2012-12-02   11:35:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: abraxas (#2)

I've never been an AJ fan

Me neither. He's always struck me as being a phoney and a likely government operative. For years I've said that his purpose, as well as the purpose of infowars and Paul Watson, was to gather information on people who go to their web site and/or call into Jones' radio show. I've caught heat for that view many times over the years on this site by his fans.

Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit because he doesn't come over and break your window - unknown

I WITHDRAW MY CONSENT!
Any perceived compliance with unconstitutional “laws” or orders put forth by government employees is NOT recognition of their authority; it is simply the result of carefully calculated submission to an entity exhibiting superior firepower.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2012-12-02   11:37:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: abraxas (#4)

LOL! I need a copy of those posters.

I'd rather have them as stickers small enough to put on the back window of my truck. Of course, Republican and Democrat voters wouldn't see the sarcasm and disgust. Instead at every stop light I would have to put up with them singing God Bless America and praising me for being an American hero.

Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit because he doesn't come over and break your window - unknown

I WITHDRAW MY CONSENT!
Any perceived compliance with unconstitutional “laws” or orders put forth by government employees is NOT recognition of their authority; it is simply the result of carefully calculated submission to an entity exhibiting superior firepower.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2012-12-02   11:41:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#20)

I agree completely. My AJ views have also caused heat with a few of his more fanatical followers. Sometimes they are quite cult like. : )

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2012-12-02   11:46:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Artisan (#15)

Honest people will give credit to the large body of very good work jones has done & still does on a wide variety of issues.

No one does more.

Some people think that unless you bang the Jew gong all day that you're a shill.

Treason has conspired with Greed and Murder in "OUR" country. I will not be an accomplice !

"Bankers" - Kill em all and let Satan sort em out" !!!

noone222  posted on  2012-12-02   11:46:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#21)

Window stickers would be great but the blind patriotism response would merit an additional Barf Bag on Board sign. : )

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2012-12-02   11:48:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: ratcat, *9-11* (#16)

AJ knows that the planes were remote controlled.

Based on what evidence? Virtually none, really, and much contradicts the remote control storyline.

Judy Woods says there were no planes.

Jason Bermas agrees with No Planers:

Missing 9/11 Planes

Loose Change 911

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-12-02   15:54:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: ratcat (#16)

AJ knows that the planes were remote controlled.

Not so sure it was "remote control", exactly. The plane's controls were over-ridden. The pilots had no control over their aircraft.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-12-03   16:18:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: GreyLmist (#25)

Missing 9/11 Planes

I supose it was all a figment of our imaginations. Those planes really hit the buildings. Besides, there were reports of explosions inside the buildings before they collapsed. Thes likely were cutting charges to shear off the columnar supports in strategic places so the towers would collapse. BTW, FED GOV flew a 747 from Hawaii to Austalia wit NO PILOT on board.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-12-03   16:23:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: abraxas (#0)

9-11 Israel’s Masterpiece Lost Scribe Media

billionaire Zionist Deborah Simon is appreciated for her contributions in the [Loose Change] credits. Her father-in-law, Mel Simon did business with Frank Lowy and Larry Silverstein, the duo that leased the towers and made billions from its demolition. Is she a brave closet renegade who married into a billionaire jewish family? Probably not.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-12-04   16:49:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: BTP Holdings (#27)

BTW, FED GOV flew a 747 from Hawaii to Austalia wit NO PILOT on board.

I'm not under the impression that advanced remote control technology doesn't exist. The thing is, you could tell that to a judge...even assert that Dov Zakheim profits much from being in the business...and it proves nothing evidentiary re: 9/11.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-12-04   17:16:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: GreyLmist (#29)

I'm not under the impression that advanced remote control technology doesn't exist. The thing is, you could tell that to a judge...even assert that Dov Zakheim profits much from being in the business...and it proves nothing evidentiary re: 9/11.

That does not change the fact that 9-11 was Made in Israel. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-12-04   17:34:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: ratcat (#16)

Judy Woods says there were no planes. It was just a figment of our imaginations, a product of lasers.

She is nutty as a fruitcake! ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-12-04   17:41:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: BTP Holdings (#7)

I wonder if AJ would be surprised to know that NORAD controlled the planes that hit the Twin Towers?

As nearly as I can tell, the FAA was uniquely the controlling agency. I suspect that the 'famous' fighter jets which scrambled were actually impulsive and rogue pilot decisions - controlled, again, by the FAA.

SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2012-12-04   18:06:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: SKYDRIFTER, BTP Holdings, *9-11* (#32) (Edited)

BTP Holdings: I wonder if AJ would be surprised to know that NORAD controlled the planes that hit the Twin Towers?

SKYDRIFTER: As nearly as I can tell, the FAA was uniquely the controlling agency. I suspect that the 'famous' fighter jets which scrambled were actually impulsive and rogue pilot decisions - controlled, again, by the FAA.

In this YouTube video, NORAD commander, Gen. Arnold, states at 4:58 that no one would have known the intent of the hijackers and, without that, [paraphrasing] a shoot down order would have been unjustifiable: 9/11 Military Response

The disturbing part of that video, imo, is at the end where it's reported that any shoot down decisions here have been delegated since 9/11 to NORAD, which is a joint Canadian partnership. Sure, Gen. Arnold is dutifully logical and ethical enough on the hijack issue but what if a Canadian commander ordered a passenger jet here blasted out of the sky without even trying to bring it to a safe landing somehow? Sovereignty infringing, to say the least.

On the FAA:

Finding the Truth.pdf - CheckTheEvidence.com: Ch. 7, A Touch of “The Hidden Hand”?, pg. 82

Mineta stated to Lee Hamilton, of the 9/11 Commission, that [he] was in a bunker when Cheney apparently declined to give a shoot down order for a plane that was about to crash into the Pentagon 79. Note that if the events went as Mineta described, the fellow coming and going from the room wouldn't have had time to leave the room and return. If the "plane" were actually travelling at 550 mph, 10 miles is covered in about 1 minute. Part of that time would be spent in the dialog, "do the orders still stand?" So, it would seem unlikely that this fellow would have time to even leave the room and return for the next dialog. It turns out that Mineta himself was former Vice President of Lockheed Martin 80 – one of the world‟s biggest defence contractors and also one the primary contractors in the Airborne Laser Project which is described as “America's first directed energy weapon system” 81

Edited for grammar and spelling.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-12-04   19:07:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: GreyLmist (#29) (Edited)

Keep promoting youtubes produced by government agents and posting crackpot stories from Judy Wood about space beams destroying the towers and you will earn your paycheck.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-12-04   19:12:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: ratcat (#16)

The answer is AJ knows that the planes were remote controlled. Judy Woods says there were no planes. It was just a figment of our imaginations, a product of lasers.

I am not sure what AJ knows or doesn't know, but Judy Woods is not a reliable source of info for really anything, yet certain people keep pushing her 9/11 stories. The 9/11 truth movement is trying to be made into a laughing stock by these jokers to make sure the general population does not investigate the events of 9/11 and realize they have been lied to by the media and government for years.

If widespread knowledge of the truth of 9/11 came out then Israel would be history just like Alan Saborsky said they would be. It is the state of Israel, Mossad and CIA agents, as well as those in the government and military that cooperated with this false flag event that are using every means available to discredit the 9/11 truth movement with wackos like Judy Wood.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-12-04   19:26:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: RickyJ (#34)

It doesn't matter how many times you keep making false claims about me getting paid to post what you disagree with, you're still wrong each and every time. Be advised that bilious jibes don't amount to a counterargument.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-12-04   19:30:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: RickyJ (#35)

Low opinions of Judy Wood are irrelevant to the facts that planes don't explain the devastation at the WTC, nor does thermitics. The same devastation can be seen in newsclips. The question of exotic weaponry didn't originate with her anyway. That's traceable to Christopher Bollyn, all the way back to February 2002 -- long before she arrived in the 9/11 research community whether you like it or not. What you think of her or the WMD aspect of 9/11 investigations changes nothing of the issues that can't be chalked up to conventional controlled demolitions.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-12-04   19:51:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: GreyLmist, RickyJ (#36)

bilious jibes don't amount to a counterargument

Not in the real world.


"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

wudidiz  posted on  2012-12-05   1:04:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: GreyLmist, RickyJ (#37)

What you think of her or the WMD aspect of 9/11 investigations changes nothing of the issues that can't be chalked up to conventional controlled demolitions.

There is not ONE thing which can't be "chaulked up" to conventional EXPLOSIVES, let alone that which could be "chaulked up" to explosives based on nano-thermite.

Nano-thermite would be the way to go if they didn't want evidence of conventional explosives found in the debris. Now they can have people post on forums saying that no traces of explosives have been found.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-12-05   1:34:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: FormerLurker (#39)

There is not ONE thing which can't be "chaulked up" to conventional EXPLOSIVES, let alone that which could be "chaulked up" to explosives based on nano-thermite.

Nano-thermite would be the way to go if they didn't want evidence of conventional explosives found in the debris.

I disagree with both of those statements. For someone who claimed in this post not to have looked into nano-thermite in any depth until less than two weeks ago, you seem to have like a religious fervor for the stuff. The magnitude of powers you've attributed to it are way over-estimated.

Now they can have people post on forums saying that no traces of explosives have been found.

Jones' alleged samples are rubbish. He and his crew didn't even try to find traces of conventional explosives. Those are plain facts and have nothing to do with your misdirected imagineerings about people like me. It's ok to realize that he's been misleading people -- kind of like "Mr. Thermite Sandman". Just shake it off and leave his deceptive snare.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-12-05   4:00:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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