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Title: Alex Jones Compars Judy Wood 911 Analysis to "Space Beams"
Source: you tube
URL Source: http://youtu.be/3p5VibTaUeQ
Published: Dec 1, 2012
Author: Santilli Covering AJ/Bermas Idiocy
Post Date: 2012-12-01 09:57:34 by abraxas
Keywords: None
Views: 3405
Comments: 142

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#7. To: abraxas (#0)

Alex Jones Compars Judy Wood 911 Analysis to "Space Beams"

The title says it all. I wonder if AJ would be surprised to know that NORAD controlled the planes that hit the Twin Towers? Just asking. ROTFLOL!

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-12-01   15:03:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: BTP Holdings (#7)

The title says it all. I wonder if AJ would be surprised to know that NORAD controlled the planes that hit the Twin Towers? Just asking. ROTFLOL!

The answer is AJ knows that the planes were remote controlled. Judy Woods says there were no planes. It was just a figment of our imaginations, a product of lasers.

ratcat  posted on  2012-12-02   0:19:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: ratcat (#16)

The answer is AJ knows that the planes were remote controlled. Judy Woods says there were no planes. It was just a figment of our imaginations, a product of lasers.

I am not sure what AJ knows or doesn't know, but Judy Woods is not a reliable source of info for really anything, yet certain people keep pushing her 9/11 stories. The 9/11 truth movement is trying to be made into a laughing stock by these jokers to make sure the general population does not investigate the events of 9/11 and realize they have been lied to by the media and government for years.

If widespread knowledge of the truth of 9/11 came out then Israel would be history just like Alan Saborsky said they would be. It is the state of Israel, Mossad and CIA agents, as well as those in the government and military that cooperated with this false flag event that are using every means available to discredit the 9/11 truth movement with wackos like Judy Wood.

RickyJ  posted on  2012-12-04   19:26:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: RickyJ (#35)

Low opinions of Judy Wood are irrelevant to the facts that planes don't explain the devastation at the WTC, nor does thermitics. The same devastation can be seen in newsclips. The question of exotic weaponry didn't originate with her anyway. That's traceable to Christopher Bollyn, all the way back to February 2002 -- long before she arrived in the 9/11 research community whether you like it or not. What you think of her or the WMD aspect of 9/11 investigations changes nothing of the issues that can't be chalked up to conventional controlled demolitions.

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-12-04   19:51:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: GreyLmist, RickyJ (#37)

What you think of her or the WMD aspect of 9/11 investigations changes nothing of the issues that can't be chalked up to conventional controlled demolitions.

There is not ONE thing which can't be "chaulked up" to conventional EXPLOSIVES, let alone that which could be "chaulked up" to explosives based on nano-thermite.

Nano-thermite would be the way to go if they didn't want evidence of conventional explosives found in the debris. Now they can have people post on forums saying that no traces of explosives have been found.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-12-05   1:34:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: FormerLurker (#39)

There is not ONE thing which can't be "chaulked up" to conventional EXPLOSIVES, let alone that which could be "chaulked up" to explosives based on nano-thermite.

Nano-thermite would be the way to go if they didn't want evidence of conventional explosives found in the debris.

I disagree with both of those statements. For someone who claimed in this post not to have looked into nano-thermite in any depth until less than two weeks ago, you seem to have like a religious fervor for the stuff. The magnitude of powers you've attributed to it are way over-estimated.

Now they can have people post on forums saying that no traces of explosives have been found.

Jones' alleged samples are rubbish. He and his crew didn't even try to find traces of conventional explosives. Those are plain facts and have nothing to do with your misdirected imagineerings about people like me. It's ok to realize that he's been misleading people -- kind of like "Mr. Thermite Sandman". Just shake it off and leave his deceptive snare.

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-12-05   4:00:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: GreyLmist (#40)

Jones' alleged samples are rubbish. He and his crew didn't even try to find traces of conventional explosives.

Uh huh. Where's your data which makes this a "fact"? And how do you know what exactly they tried to find or didn't?

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-12-05   16:53:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: FormerLurker (#44) (Edited)

Hi FL

I worked 2 decades + front end....fabricating oil/nat gas process systems.
CNC underwater cut/Cryogenic nitrogen - plasma gantry,
move plate and finished vessels with 50 ton remote control cranes.
I have many years of metallurgy,ultrasound insp ticket,...nuclear weld xray
senior burner....machine operator.
We used 2" boxed column as supports under pressure vessels which went into ovens with 24 fired gas burners and heat treated/equalized the vessels welds for over 12 hours sometimes.....above the pissy useless value of burning avfuel.....neither the 2" boxed supports...nor the pressure vessel ....nor even the railcar which loaded all into a huge oven...melted,failed,...saged.
Its BS that the 64 2" core columns failed in the carbon based fire after the jet fuel was consumed.
so it requires assisted intervention....where you see fountains of molten steel and alloy flow out of the towers like a waterfall.....thats the Nano - thermate/thermite...doing its thing.
yet still...you can see the top portion of the tower pivot over centre and lean...some 30 plus floors...and become powder in milliseconds!
Thats a directed energy weapon!

This ends the BS that Moo si lums did 9-11.
Only dept's and here....its like Area 51 stuff.....have access to Directed Energy weapons.
The people who want to take down Iraq,A stan,Libya and Syria are the ones who did 9- 11
Zbigniew B and Grand chessboard/Fake war on Terror.....9-11 was the kick off for the next phase.

Parrot with speed dial  posted on  2012-12-05   17:23:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Parrot with speed dial (#45)

you can see the top portion of the tower pivot over centre and lean...some 30 plus floors...and become powder in milliseconds! Thats a directed energy weapon!

There is not one directed energy weapon that I am aware of which can turn concrete to dust.

There ARE explosives however which can, and DO, accomplish that. Ever see a controlled demolition?

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-12-05   17:58:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: FormerLurker, Parrot with speed dial, all (#46)

Ever see a controlled demolition?

Conventional explosives don't cause molecular dissociation which was seen at the wtc.

wudidiz  posted on  2012-12-05   19:00:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: wudidiz (#47)

Conventional explosives don't cause molecular dissociation which was seen at the wtc.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!

Do you even know what molecular dissociation IS, or are you just using a word you found at one of your psuedoscience sites?

Name me ONE, just ONE, REAL "directed energy" weapon which could cause such a thing.

Again, I don't mean something you find on science fiction shows, like Star Trek. I mean something REAL.

BTW, did you personally analyze the WTC debris and find that there were any "unassociated molecules"? If so, please describe to me the analysis, ie. what procedures and what instruments were used to make such a determination.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-12-05   20:10:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: FormerLurker (#49)

Name me ONE, just ONE, REAL "directed energy" weapon which could cause such a thing.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed-energy_weapons

If you can not click a link that has been given to you repeated times for a question you have asked over and over then your a fucking idiot not worthy of the attention people waste on you.

fucking disinformationalst tool.

titorite  posted on  2012-12-05   22:35:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: titorite (#58)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed-energy_weapons

If you can not click a link that has been given to you repeated times for a question you have asked over and over then your a fucking idiot not worthy of the attention people waste on you.

fucking disinformationalst tool.

Did you even bother reading the link you posted you fucking retarded Mossad tool?

There is not ONE weapon at that link which could have brought down the towers, and if you don't know that, you're a bigger idiot than I thought you were.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-12-05   23:25:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: FormerLurker (#62)

Did you even bother reading the link you posted you fucking retarded Mossad tool?

There is not ONE weapon at that link which could have brought down the towers, and if you don't know that, you're a bigger idiot than I thought you were.

So in otherwords you are a lying shit that is to lazy or too unwilling to click a link.

All the information is there and your pronouncements doesn't change that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed-energy_weapons

FOLKS , BYSTANDERS , DONT BE A LAZY LIAR LIKE FORMER LURKER HERE. IF YOU WANT TO EDUCATE YOURSELF THE INTERNET IS RIGHT HERE AND LINKS HAVE EVEN BEEN PROVIDED. THEIR ARE NASTY ENERGY WEAPONS OUT THERE THAT CAN ATOMIZE STONE AND METAL. THE SHIT IS REAL. DENOUNCING IT BECAUSE IT SOUNDS SCARY OR DISCREDITS A PET THEORY IS FOOLISHNESS.

Don't be like Former Lurker. Don't be foolish. If you want to know the truth you can.... you can look for yourself...Should look for yourself.

Look at his words and look at mine and looks at others.... but at any time if any of us say "DON'T LISTEN TO SO AND SO BECAUSE I SAY SO" That is the suspect you might be wary of.

titorite  posted on  2012-12-06   0:39:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: titorite (#79)

THEIR ARE NASTY ENERGY WEAPONS OUT THERE THAT CAN ATOMIZE STONE AND METAL.

Uh huh. Besides nuclear bombs, name me ONE, just ONE such weapon which can do as you say.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-12-06   14:13:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: FormerLurker, titorite (#94)

THEIR ARE NASTY ENERGY WEAPONS OUT THERE THAT CAN ATOMIZE STONE AND METAL.

Uh huh. Besides nuclear bombs, name me ONE, just ONE such weapon which can do as you say.

Any such weapons are in the black budget and buried under layer after layer of classification. Rumors do leak out though. Just as we know that there is, and has been a secret space program, we know that weapons the public are allowed to know about are a minimum of 20 to 30 years behind actual capability. We do know that sonic weapons can achieve that effect and Scalar Weapons (based on Tesla's research and breakthroughs) can likely do the same. We can look at the observed phenomena and infer the existence of a cause e.g., the microfine dust at the WTC Towers when they collapsed. That dust is an unexplained phenomena which has never been observed in any other event. So, it is rational and logical to infer a cause of that phenomena. While we cannot prove the existence of something that exists with in the world of high level weapons research we can infer and deduce its existence from the observed phenomena.

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-12-06   14:21:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Original_Intent (#97)

OI, I don't know if there is a secret space program or not, maybe there is.

However, I find it VERY unlikely that we have weapons which basically function like phaser beams.

Sure there are sophisticated anti-missile weapons, designed to be effective in space against incoming ICBMs. They might use high powered lasers for that.

However, beam weapons effective in the atmosphere are highly unlikely at this point in time. Concerning scaler weapons, I had read about scaler waves over a decade ago, but have seen no proof that they are effective as weapons.

Don't you think if we had such sophisticated weaponry they would have been put to use by now in terms of actual warfare?

As far as a beam weapon being used against the WTC towers, let's look at the factors, besides the fact such a weapon most probably doesn't exist.

How would it manage to cause a symetrical top down collapse? Would there be four separate beams aimed at each corner of the building, tracking each floor downwards at the precise time? Where would such weapons be positioned, and where would they derive their power from?

How would they avoid penetrating past the WTC into adjacent buildings?

Again, Occam's Razor indicates the most likely answer is that explosives were used to achieve what was witnessed. It CAN be done, and it WOULD have created dust just as witnessed.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-12-06   15:05:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: FormerLurker, titorite (#98)

Don't you think if we had such sophisticated weaponry they would have been put to use by now in terms of actual warfare?

Not necessarily. In most of the little brush fire wars that have been created by the MIC/Rothschilds/Israel such weapons are not needed and would be revealing capabilities to potential adversaries who could make use of the information. You have to look at the spook mentality of chronic and constant paranoia. They'd classify their Great Grandmother's birthday if they were allowed to.

As far as a beam weapon being used against the WTC towers, let's look at the factors, besides the fact such a weapon most probably doesn't exist.

Data insufficient to say they don't exist. Again I look at it from the point of view of inductive logic reasoning from observed effect back to cause. We can observe the effect of microfine concrete dust and we can also observe the manner in which the structures appeared to erode before our very eyes. We can further adduce that these particular characteristics are particular only to the collapse of the WTC Towers. Explosives, not even nanothermites, does not account for the observed phenomena. From explosives we could expect certainly some great degree of dust from the collapse but it is the quality of the dust i.e., its very fine, almost microscopic, grain combined with greater volume than can really be accounted for by explosion and collapse. So, I do not think it unreasonable to assume, hypothetically, the existence of some other agency creating the observed effect. And while this is, freely admitted, speculation the existence, and use, of some form of energy weapon is not unreasonable in attempting to account for some of the observed phenomena. While I do not agree 100% with Dr. Wood she nevertheless has chronicled some very puzzling observations including the dust but not limited to it. There are other evidences she has collected which are verifiable and anomalous to say the least.

So, the one thing I can say with some certainty is that pending further data that some some agency, likely in the form of directed energy, appears to have been involved with the collapse of the towers. It fits for me since I believe that more than one means was used to bring the towers down and to control their collapse so as to prevent too much additional damage to other properties.

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-12-06   20:55:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#111. To: Original_Intent, *9-11* (#110) (Edited)

From explosives we could expect certainly some great degree of dust from the collapse but it is the quality of the dust i.e., its very fine, almost microscopic, grain combined with greater volume than can really be accounted for by explosion and collapse.

Plese provide a link that makes any distinction between the size of the WTC dust and the size of regular controlled demolition dust.

Additionally, you are saying that we don't know what a classified weapon would do, or what it would be, since its classified.

That's sort of circular argument don't you think?

Don't you think we should give the same sort of consideration to nanothermite explosives, which more than likely DO exist, and MAY actually cause the effects seen in the WTC collapse, ESPECIALLY since unreacted nanothermite WAS found in the WTC debris?

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-12-06 21:01:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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