The title says it all. I wonder if AJ would be surprised to know that NORAD controlled the planes that hit the Twin Towers? Just asking. ROTFLOL!
The answer is AJ knows that the planes were remote controlled. Judy Woods says there were no planes. It was just a figment of our imaginations, a product of lasers.
The answer is AJ knows that the planes were remote controlled. Judy Woods says there were no planes. It was just a figment of our imaginations, a product of lasers.
I am not sure what AJ knows or doesn't know, but Judy Woods is not a reliable source of info for really anything, yet certain people keep pushing her 9/11 stories. The 9/11 truth movement is trying to be made into a laughing stock by these jokers to make sure the general population does not investigate the events of 9/11 and realize they have been lied to by the media and government for years.
If widespread knowledge of the truth of 9/11 came out then Israel would be history just like Alan Saborsky said they would be. It is the state of Israel, Mossad and CIA agents, as well as those in the government and military that cooperated with this false flag event that are using every means available to discredit the 9/11 truth movement with wackos like Judy Wood.
Low opinions of Judy Wood are irrelevant to the facts that planes don't explain the devastation at the WTC, nor does thermitics. The same devastation can be seen in newsclips. The question of exotic weaponry didn't originate with her anyway. That's traceable to Christopher Bollyn, all the way back to February 2002 -- long before she arrived in the 9/11 research community whether you like it or not. What you think of her or the WMD aspect of 9/11 investigations changes nothing of the issues that can't be chalked up to conventional controlled demolitions.
What you think of her or the WMD aspect of 9/11 investigations changes nothing of the issues that can't be chalked up to conventional controlled demolitions.
There is not ONE thing which can't be "chaulked up" to conventional EXPLOSIVES, let alone that which could be "chaulked up" to explosives based on nano-thermite.
Nano-thermite would be the way to go if they didn't want evidence of conventional explosives found in the debris. Now they can have people post on forums saying that no traces of explosives have been found.
There is not ONE thing which can't be "chaulked up" to conventional EXPLOSIVES, let alone that which could be "chaulked up" to explosives based on nano-thermite.
Nano-thermite would be the way to go if they didn't want evidence of conventional explosives found in the debris.
I disagree with both of those statements. For someone who claimed in this post not to have looked into nano-thermite in any depth until less than two weeks ago, you seem to have like a religious fervor for the stuff. The magnitude of powers you've attributed to it are way over-estimated.
Now they can have people post on forums saying that no traces of explosives have been found.
Jones' alleged samples are rubbish. He and his crew didn't even try to find traces of conventional explosives. Those are plain facts and have nothing to do with your misdirected imagineerings about people like me. It's ok to realize that he's been misleading people -- kind of like "Mr. Thermite Sandman". Just shake it off and leave his deceptive snare.
I worked 2 decades + front end....fabricating oil/nat gas process systems. CNC underwater cut/Cryogenic nitrogen - plasma gantry, move plate and finished vessels with 50 ton remote control cranes. I have many years of metallurgy,ultrasound insp ticket,...nuclear weld xray senior burner....machine operator. We used 2" boxed column as supports under pressure vessels which went into ovens with 24 fired gas burners and heat treated/equalized the vessels welds for over 12 hours sometimes.....above the pissy useless value of burning avfuel.....neither the 2" boxed supports...nor the pressure vessel ....nor even the railcar which loaded all into a huge oven...melted,failed,...saged. Its BS that the 64 2" core columns failed in the carbon based fire after the jet fuel was consumed. so it requires assisted intervention....where you see fountains of molten steel and alloy flow out of the towers like a waterfall.....thats the Nano - thermate/thermite...doing its thing. yet still...you can see the top portion of the tower pivot over centre and lean...some 30 plus floors...and become powder in milliseconds! Thats a directed energy weapon!
This ends the BS that Moo si lums did 9-11. Only dept's and here....its like Area 51 stuff.....have access to Directed Energy weapons. The people who want to take down Iraq,A stan,Libya and Syria are the ones who did 9- 11 Zbigniew B and Grand chessboard/Fake war on Terror.....9-11 was the kick off for the next phase.
you can see the top portion of the tower pivot over centre and lean...some 30 plus floors...and become powder in milliseconds! Thats a directed energy weapon!
There is not one directed energy weapon that I am aware of which can turn concrete to dust.
There ARE explosives however which can, and DO, accomplish that. Ever see a controlled demolition?
Conventional explosives don't cause molecular dissociation which was seen at the wtc.
LOL!!!!!!!!!!
Do you even know what molecular dissociation IS, or are you just using a word you found at one of your psuedoscience sites?
Name me ONE, just ONE, REAL "directed energy" weapon which could cause such a thing.
Again, I don't mean something you find on science fiction shows, like Star Trek. I mean something REAL.
BTW, did you personally analyze the WTC debris and find that there were any "unassociated molecules"? If so, please describe to me the analysis, ie. what procedures and what instruments were used to make such a determination.
If you can not click a link that has been given to you repeated times for a question you have asked over and over then your a fucking idiot not worthy of the attention people waste on you.
If you can not click a link that has been given to you repeated times for a question you have asked over and over then your a fucking idiot not worthy of the attention people waste on you.
fucking disinformationalst tool.
Did you even bother reading the link you posted you fucking retarded Mossad tool?
There is not ONE weapon at that link which could have brought down the towers, and if you don't know that, you're a bigger idiot than I thought you were.
Did you even bother reading the link you posted you fucking retarded Mossad tool?
There is not ONE weapon at that link which could have brought down the towers, and if you don't know that, you're a bigger idiot than I thought you were.
So in otherwords you are a lying shit that is to lazy or too unwilling to click a link.
All the information is there and your pronouncements doesn't change that.
FOLKS , BYSTANDERS , DONT BE A LAZY LIAR LIKE FORMER LURKER HERE. IF YOU WANT TO EDUCATE YOURSELF THE INTERNET IS RIGHT HERE AND LINKS HAVE EVEN BEEN PROVIDED. THEIR ARE NASTY ENERGY WEAPONS OUT THERE THAT CAN ATOMIZE STONE AND METAL. THE SHIT IS REAL. DENOUNCING IT BECAUSE IT SOUNDS SCARY OR DISCREDITS A PET THEORY IS FOOLISHNESS.
Don't be like Former Lurker. Don't be foolish. If you want to know the truth you can.... you can look for yourself...Should look for yourself.
Look at his words and look at mine and looks at others.... but at any time if any of us say "DON'T LISTEN TO SO AND SO BECAUSE I SAY SO" That is the suspect you might be wary of.
THEIR ARE NASTY ENERGY WEAPONS OUT THERE THAT CAN ATOMIZE STONE AND METAL.
Uh huh. Besides nuclear bombs, name me ONE, just ONE such weapon which can do as you say.
Any such weapons are in the black budget and buried under layer after layer of classification. Rumors do leak out though. Just as we know that there is, and has been a secret space program, we know that weapons the public are allowed to know about are a minimum of 20 to 30 years behind actual capability. We do know that sonic weapons can achieve that effect and Scalar Weapons (based on Tesla's research and breakthroughs) can likely do the same. We can look at the observed phenomena and infer the existence of a cause e.g., the microfine dust at the WTC Towers when they collapsed. That dust is an unexplained phenomena which has never been observed in any other event. So, it is rational and logical to infer a cause of that phenomena. While we cannot prove the existence of something that exists with in the world of high level weapons research we can infer and deduce its existence from the observed phenomena.
OI, I don't know if there is a secret space program or not, maybe there is.
However, I find it VERY unlikely that we have weapons which basically function like phaser beams.
Sure there are sophisticated anti-missile weapons, designed to be effective in space against incoming ICBMs. They might use high powered lasers for that.
However, beam weapons effective in the atmosphere are highly unlikely at this point in time. Concerning scaler weapons, I had read about scaler waves over a decade ago, but have seen no proof that they are effective as weapons.
Don't you think if we had such sophisticated weaponry they would have been put to use by now in terms of actual warfare?
As far as a beam weapon being used against the WTC towers, let's look at the factors, besides the fact such a weapon most probably doesn't exist.
How would it manage to cause a symetrical top down collapse? Would there be four separate beams aimed at each corner of the building, tracking each floor downwards at the precise time? Where would such weapons be positioned, and where would they derive their power from?
How would they avoid penetrating past the WTC into adjacent buildings?
Again, Occam's Razor indicates the most likely answer is that explosives were used to achieve what was witnessed. It CAN be done, and it WOULD have created dust just as witnessed.
Don't you think if we had such sophisticated weaponry they would have been put to use by now in terms of actual warfare?
Not necessarily. In most of the little brush fire wars that have been created by the MIC/Rothschilds/Israel such weapons are not needed and would be revealing capabilities to potential adversaries who could make use of the information. You have to look at the spook mentality of chronic and constant paranoia. They'd classify their Great Grandmother's birthday if they were allowed to.
As far as a beam weapon being used against the WTC towers, let's look at the factors, besides the fact such a weapon most probably doesn't exist.
Data insufficient to say they don't exist. Again I look at it from the point of view of inductive logic reasoning from observed effect back to cause. We can observe the effect of microfine concrete dust and we can also observe the manner in which the structures appeared to erode before our very eyes. We can further adduce that these particular characteristics are particular only to the collapse of the WTC Towers. Explosives, not even nanothermites, does not account for the observed phenomena. From explosives we could expect certainly some great degree of dust from the collapse but it is the quality of the dust i.e., its very fine, almost microscopic, grain combined with greater volume than can really be accounted for by explosion and collapse. So, I do not think it unreasonable to assume, hypothetically, the existence of some other agency creating the observed effect. And while this is, freely admitted, speculation the existence, and use, of some form of energy weapon is not unreasonable in attempting to account for some of the observed phenomena. While I do not agree 100% with Dr. Wood she nevertheless has chronicled some very puzzling observations including the dust but not limited to it. There are other evidences she has collected which are verifiable and anomalous to say the least.
So, the one thing I can say with some certainty is that pending further data that some some agency, likely in the form of directed energy, appears to have been involved with the collapse of the towers. It fits for me since I believe that more than one means was used to bring the towers down and to control their collapse so as to prevent too much additional damage to other properties.
From explosives we could expect certainly some great degree of dust from the collapse but it is the quality of the dust i.e., its very fine, almost microscopic, grain combined with greater volume than can really be accounted for by explosion and collapse.
Plese provide a link that makes any distinction between the size of the WTC dust and the size of regular controlled demolition dust.
Additionally, you are saying that we don't know what a classified weapon would do, or what it would be, since its classified.
That's sort of circular argument don't you think?
Don't you think we should give the same sort of consideration to nanothermite explosives, which more than likely DO exist, and MAY actually cause the effects seen in the WTC collapse, ESPECIALLY since unreacted nanothermite WAS found in the WTC debris?
Additionally, you are saying that we don't know what a classified weapon would do, or what it would be, since its classified.
That's sort of circular argument don't you think?
Not really. We are operating at a data deficit and so are left to speculate. We can hedge our speculations using logic but they are still speculations. I just look at the observed phenomena and apply what we don't know and then attempt to infer from the observed phenomena a possible cause. I do not assert a certainty merely a possibility. I do not assert it as a certainty. It is simply one hypothesis among several in an attempt to account for the observed phenomena.
Don't you think we should give the same sort of consideration to nanothermite explosives, which more than likely DO exist, and MAY actually cause the effects seen in the WTC collapse, ESPECIALLY since unreacted nanothermite WAS found in the WTC debris?
Oh, I do. I think it very possible. However, my point is that I do not think it was the only thing used. The towers were very very massive and very tall. In order to create controlled degradation of the structures, as was observed, I think it likely that the controllers who organized and planned the job had a whole palette of options at their disposal. One of the major problems would have been to control the collapse, again as observed, by means sufficient to contain the destruction to just the towers and that is what we observe. Nanotherumites were almost certainly used to cut key structural members but would not, I do not believe, have been sufficient to contain the collapse in the manner which we observe.
One of the major problems would have been to control the collapse, again as observed, by means sufficient to contain the destruction to just the towers and that is what we observe. Nanotherumites were almost certainly used to cut key structural members but would not, I do not believe, have been sufficient to contain the collapse in the manner which we observe.
OI, this will probably be my last post on this forum. I'm done arguing with those who've made it a mission in their lives to discredit 9/11 truth with whatever they can conjure up out of the blue, who promote themselves as "truth seekers" where they care not about truth, all they care about is what they "believe" or "feel".
At one time on this forum, and others before it, I felt like I was opening some eyes and raising people's awareness. Now, I feel that whenever I post actual facts and logical arguments, I'll be attacked from all directions, and those simply passing by this forum will side with the majority, knowing little if anything about what the facts actually are.
I suppose I've just grown sick and tired of spending my time spinning my wheels and not really getting anywhere.
But to address your comments, you apparently still think nanothermite is used to burn through metal. I have raised the fact many times lately that the military and various government laboratories have been researching nanothermite EXPLOSIVES since at least the early 90's. In other words, they were developing explosives composed of nanothermite in hopes they would be more powerful than standard C4. Little data is available on exactly HOW much more powerful nanothermite explosives are. In fact, it's not even clear that they actually exist.
I'd say however, that it is MUCH more likely that they DO exist, than some phaser beam type weapon fired from muliple points in space.
All I've ever done is try to look at the MOST likely scenario, supported by known facts, logic, and basic science. I also look at what DIDN'T or COULDN'T have happened. It is by using that methodology we can eliminate jet fuel and pancaking as the cause of the demise of the WTC towers.
If we grasp at red herrings and ignore the most likely scenario, then what difference is there between the "jet fuel brought the towers down" story, and the "9/11 truth" tales? Do you really believe for one second that the government DOESN'T place disinformation out there to instigate the very sort of behavior we are currently witnessing, where MANY people are latching onto this "no-planes" bandwagon, even though it defies all logic and reasoning, and is supported by wishful thinking along with doctored after the fact videos, nothing more?
Anyways, controlled demolition is called that for a reason. The collapse of the structure is controlled by precise timing, location, and type of explosive. As you have just said, those towers collapsed in a controlled fashion. There is absolutely no reason at all they couldn't have been destroyed using timed explosives, and if nanothermite was used, standard signatures of explosives would not be detected.
Here's a demolition video, it'll show how STANDARD explosives can bring down structures. Enjoy.
It's been fun, but now, it's no longer fun. I have stopped caring, since apparently most people don't care about what is true or not anymore, so why spend my time trying to convince them of what the facts are. I feel as though I've been wasting my time, and that's time I'll never get back.
Oh, you want some attention you fucking weasle? Ok, I'm not sure if you are a government paid operative, an Israeli agent, or just a plain stupid fucking psycho.
You ARE one of the above however. You ARE most certainly a drama queen, claiming credit for that which you have had no part of, and discrediting those who have had a substantial role in raising the public's awareness of the impossibility of the government's 9/11 fairy tale.
YOU have done everthing within your means to cause hate, discontent, and animosity between posters here on these 9/11 threads, have latched onto ridiculously implausible tales, insisting that they are 100% true, while dismissing actual evidence, logic, and documented facts as "lies".
YOU most certainly are a tool of those covering up 9/11, and what makes it worse, people TRUST you because you post differently on other topics.
At least yukon was consistently rude and vile, whereas you only behave this way on 9/11 topics, indicating to me that you're here specifically to neutralize any widespread support of an impartial investigation of 9/11.
Anyways, enjoy your new found notoriety, and while you're at it, kiss my ass.
I have gone out into the night to paste flyers at recruiting stations speaking on 911 truth. I have set up notes on post office sticky tacky boards . I have taken my spraypaint cans to the fraternal lodges and highschools. I have been arrested and done my time in pursuit of doing all that I could literally by myself because I can not seem to get organised....
A jumbled up mess is what I am...still struggling to get my shit together just like any of us I suppose..... except those that DO have their shit together.
It's very convenient posting anonymously and claiming you're really a superhero in real life. I just noticed you on another thread, saying that you spoke to Alex Jones about starting a revolution, then went on in a subsequent post trying to get people interested in "meetups" hosted by you.
To me, you seem like a bonafide COINTEL operative, fluffing up your "past" trying to make yourself out to be some sort of super patriot.
Due to your actions and words not only on these 9/11 threads, but others, I'd say it is HIGHLY likely that you are in fact trying to lure people into situations where they can be charged with "anti-terrorism" laws, arrested as "domestic terrorists".
It's happened many times before, in fact, it happens all the time.
In regards to 9/11, to you "truth" is whatever YOU say it is, contradictory facts, logic, or common sense be damned. You are certainly no friend of the 9/11 Truth movement. If anything, you've set it back to the days when most people believed the offical fairytale. The only thing different is that you've replaced one fairytale with another.
It's very convenient posting anonymously and claiming you're really a superhero in real life. I just noticed you on another thread, saying that you spoke to Alex Jones about starting a revolution, then went on in a subsequent post trying to get people interested in "meetups" hosted by you.
EWWWWWWW
I never said nothing about speaking to Alex Jones.
You lie fucker.
And Fuck AJ!
For any that don't know call the AJ show and ask about the signifigance of the y2k broadcast... or what happened at trinidade..... or what happened in the parking lot incident... ask aj any of these things. ask him about the austin gun protest he bullhorned down. ask these things ...and all will be revealed why I dislike AJ
BUT HONESTLY WHO HERE DOESN"T KNOW I DISLIKE THE FUCK OUTTA AJ!?!?!?!
I never said nothing about speaking to Alex Jones.
You lie fucker.
Oh I'm sorry, I thought you were talking about Alex Jones. Now I see you were in fact telling Christine that you were speaking to Randy Weaver about the "merits of revolution".
At least I admit my mistakes, unlike you.
Yeah, I'm sure Randy really got a kick out of you telling him he should participate in plans to start a revolution. Hell, look what happened to him just for shortening a shotgun barrel a half inch too short or so.
Oh I'm sorry, I thought you were talking about Alex Jones. Now I see you were in fact telling Christine that you were speaking to Randy Weaver about the "merits of revolution".
At least I admit my mistakes, unlike you.
Yeah, I'm sure Randy really got a kick out of you telling him he should participate in plans to start a revolution. Hell, look what happened to him just for shortening a shotgun barrel a half inch too short or so.
Don't tread in that water. You wern't there.
Besides I seem to recall you asking for your account to be deleted. IS the full worth of your word nothing but inconsistencies and phoneyness?
Then inconsistencies and phoneyness is what you have chosen.
Let it be known.
SO much for your last post.
I am eager for you to leave at this point.
YOu lie like a shitstain dog. About all sorts of shit. Senisitive shit. Shit you have no fucking clue about because you wernt there. YOu are probably never there. Not at gathings, not at protests, not out in the night with your own Direct actions not willing to put your nuts on the line.