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Title: Alex Jones Compars Judy Wood 911 Analysis to "Space Beams"
Source: you tube
URL Source: http://youtu.be/3p5VibTaUeQ
Published: Dec 1, 2012
Author: Santilli Covering AJ/Bermas Idiocy
Post Date: 2012-12-01 09:57:34 by abraxas
Keywords: None
Views: 3348
Comments: 142

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its simplistic to assume that listeners are "followers/sheep" particularly given the fact that jones harshest critics are former listeners/fans.

I agree in part, but how do you account for fans who continue to tune in after insults for not hopping onto his bandwagon? I see his harshest critics as those who once tuned in but now tune out as well...because they are on to his game. Yes, multiple sources broadens perspective.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2012-12-02   11:32:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Of your list, Mike Rivero. I also like Pete Santilli and Jeff Rense broadcasts. Unfortunately, I haven't had the time to tune into many shows lately. Are all your recommendations on the web?

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2012-12-02   11:34:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Its amusing but pitiful his obsession on revenge with jones.

He must have been taking notes on obsession/revenge from Jones as he has a long history of such pitiful behavior.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2012-12-02   11:35:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I've never been an AJ fan

Me neither. He's always struck me as being a phoney and a likely government operative. For years I've said that his purpose, as well as the purpose of infowars and Paul Watson, was to gather information on people who go to their web site and/or call into Jones' radio show. I've caught heat for that view many times over the years on this site by his fans.

Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit because he doesn't come over and break your window - unknown

I WITHDRAW MY CONSENT!
Any perceived compliance with unconstitutional “laws” or orders put forth by government employees is NOT recognition of their authority; it is simply the result of carefully calculated submission to an entity exhibiting superior firepower.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2012-12-02   11:37:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

LOL! I need a copy of those posters.

I'd rather have them as stickers small enough to put on the back window of my truck. Of course, Republican and Democrat voters wouldn't see the sarcasm and disgust. Instead at every stop light I would have to put up with them singing God Bless America and praising me for being an American hero.

Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit because he doesn't come over and break your window - unknown

I WITHDRAW MY CONSENT!
Any perceived compliance with unconstitutional “laws” or orders put forth by government employees is NOT recognition of their authority; it is simply the result of carefully calculated submission to an entity exhibiting superior firepower.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2012-12-02   11:41:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I agree completely. My AJ views have also caused heat with a few of his more fanatical followers. Sometimes they are quite cult like. : )

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2012-12-02   11:46:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Honest people will give credit to the large body of very good work jones has done & still does on a wide variety of issues.

No one does more.

Some people think that unless you bang the Jew gong all day that you're a shill.

Treason has conspired with Greed and Murder in "OUR" country. I will not be an accomplice !

"Bankers" - Kill em all and let Satan sort em out" !!!

noone222  posted on  2012-12-02   11:46:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Window stickers would be great but the blind patriotism response would merit an additional Barf Bag on Board sign. : )

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2012-12-02   11:48:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

AJ knows that the planes were remote controlled.

Based on what evidence? Virtually none, really, and much contradicts the remote control storyline.

Judy Woods says there were no planes.

Jason Bermas agrees with No Planers:

Missing 9/11 Planes

Loose Change 911

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-12-02   15:54:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

AJ knows that the planes were remote controlled.

Not so sure it was "remote control", exactly. The plane's controls were over-ridden. The pilots had no control over their aircraft.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-12-03   16:18:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Missing 9/11 Planes

I supose it was all a figment of our imaginations. Those planes really hit the buildings. Besides, there were reports of explosions inside the buildings before they collapsed. Thes likely were cutting charges to shear off the columnar supports in strategic places so the towers would collapse. BTW, FED GOV flew a 747 from Hawaii to Austalia wit NO PILOT on board.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-12-03   16:23:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

9-11 Israel’s Masterpiece Lost Scribe Media

billionaire Zionist Deborah Simon is appreciated for her contributions in the [Loose Change] credits. Her father-in-law, Mel Simon did business with Frank Lowy and Larry Silverstein, the duo that leased the towers and made billions from its demolition. Is she a brave closet renegade who married into a billionaire jewish family? Probably not.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-12-04   16:49:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

BTW, FED GOV flew a 747 from Hawaii to Austalia wit NO PILOT on board.

I'm not under the impression that advanced remote control technology doesn't exist. The thing is, you could tell that to a judge...even assert that Dov Zakheim profits much from being in the business...and it proves nothing evidentiary re: 9/11.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-12-04   17:16:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm not under the impression that advanced remote control technology doesn't exist. The thing is, you could tell that to a judge...even assert that Dov Zakheim profits much from being in the business...and it proves nothing evidentiary re: 9/11.

That does not change the fact that 9-11 was Made in Israel. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-12-04   17:34:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Judy Woods says there were no planes. It was just a figment of our imaginations, a product of lasers.

She is nutty as a fruitcake! ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-12-04   17:41:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I wonder if AJ would be surprised to know that NORAD controlled the planes that hit the Twin Towers?

As nearly as I can tell, the FAA was uniquely the controlling agency. I suspect that the 'famous' fighter jets which scrambled were actually impulsive and rogue pilot decisions - controlled, again, by the FAA.

SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2012-12-04   18:06:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

BTP Holdings: I wonder if AJ would be surprised to know that NORAD controlled the planes that hit the Twin Towers?

SKYDRIFTER: As nearly as I can tell, the FAA was uniquely the controlling agency. I suspect that the 'famous' fighter jets which scrambled were actually impulsive and rogue pilot decisions - controlled, again, by the FAA.

In this YouTube video, NORAD commander, Gen. Arnold, states at 4:58 that no one would have known the intent of the hijackers and, without that, [paraphrasing] a shoot down order would have been unjustifiable: 9/11 Military Response

The disturbing part of that video, imo, is at the end where it's reported that any shoot down decisions here have been delegated since 9/11 to NORAD, which is a joint Canadian partnership. Sure, Gen. Arnold is dutifully logical and ethical enough on the hijack issue but what if a Canadian commander ordered a passenger jet here blasted out of the sky without even trying to bring it to a safe landing somehow? Sovereignty infringing, to say the least.

On the FAA:

Finding the Truth.pdf - CheckTheEvidence.com: Ch. 7, A Touch of “The Hidden Hand”?, pg. 82

Mineta stated to Lee Hamilton, of the 9/11 Commission, that [he] was in a bunker when Cheney apparently declined to give a shoot down order for a plane that was about to crash into the Pentagon 79. Note that if the events went as Mineta described, the fellow coming and going from the room wouldn't have had time to leave the room and return. If the "plane" were actually travelling at 550 mph, 10 miles is covered in about 1 minute. Part of that time would be spent in the dialog, "do the orders still stand?" So, it would seem unlikely that this fellow would have time to even leave the room and return for the next dialog. It turns out that Mineta himself was former Vice President of Lockheed Martin 80 – one of the world‟s biggest defence contractors and also one the primary contractors in the Airborne Laser Project which is described as “America's first directed energy weapon system” 81

Edited for grammar and spelling.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-12-04   19:07:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Keep promoting youtubes produced by government agents and posting crackpot stories from Judy Wood about space beams destroying the towers and you will earn your paycheck.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-12-04   19:12:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The answer is AJ knows that the planes were remote controlled. Judy Woods says there were no planes. It was just a figment of our imaginations, a product of lasers.

I am not sure what AJ knows or doesn't know, but Judy Woods is not a reliable source of info for really anything, yet certain people keep pushing her 9/11 stories. The 9/11 truth movement is trying to be made into a laughing stock by these jokers to make sure the general population does not investigate the events of 9/11 and realize they have been lied to by the media and government for years.

If widespread knowledge of the truth of 9/11 came out then Israel would be history just like Alan Saborsky said they would be. It is the state of Israel, Mossad and CIA agents, as well as those in the government and military that cooperated with this false flag event that are using every means available to discredit the 9/11 truth movement with wackos like Judy Wood.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-12-04   19:26:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

It doesn't matter how many times you keep making false claims about me getting paid to post what you disagree with, you're still wrong each and every time. Be advised that bilious jibes don't amount to a counterargument.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-12-04   19:30:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Low opinions of Judy Wood are irrelevant to the facts that planes don't explain the devastation at the WTC, nor does thermitics. The same devastation can be seen in newsclips. The question of exotic weaponry didn't originate with her anyway. That's traceable to Christopher Bollyn, all the way back to February 2002 -- long before she arrived in the 9/11 research community whether you like it or not. What you think of her or the WMD aspect of 9/11 investigations changes nothing of the issues that can't be chalked up to conventional controlled demolitions.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-12-04   19:51:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

bilious jibes don't amount to a counterargument

Not in the real world.

wudidiz  posted on  2012-12-05   1:04:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

What you think of her or the WMD aspect of 9/11 investigations changes nothing of the issues that can't be chalked up to conventional controlled demolitions.

There is not ONE thing which can't be "chaulked up" to conventional EXPLOSIVES, let alone that which could be "chaulked up" to explosives based on nano-thermite.

Nano-thermite would be the way to go if they didn't want evidence of conventional explosives found in the debris. Now they can have people post on forums saying that no traces of explosives have been found.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-12-05   1:34:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

There is not ONE thing which can't be "chaulked up" to conventional EXPLOSIVES, let alone that which could be "chaulked up" to explosives based on nano-thermite.

Nano-thermite would be the way to go if they didn't want evidence of conventional explosives found in the debris.

I disagree with both of those statements. For someone who claimed in this post not to have looked into nano-thermite in any depth until less than two weeks ago, you seem to have like a religious fervor for the stuff. The magnitude of powers you've attributed to it are way over-estimated.

Now they can have people post on forums saying that no traces of explosives have been found.

Jones' alleged samples are rubbish. He and his crew didn't even try to find traces of conventional explosives. Those are plain facts and have nothing to do with your misdirected imagineerings about people like me. It's ok to realize that he's been misleading people -- kind of like "Mr. Thermite Sandman". Just shake it off and leave his deceptive snare.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-12-05   4:00:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

P.S. I'll be addressing your demolition claims further when I get back to the thread where I notified you that I'd be doing that, eventually.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-12-05   6:53:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

NORAD commander, Gen. Arnold, states at 4:58 that no one would have known the intent of the hijackers and, without that, [paraphrasing] a shoot down order would have been unjustifiable: 9/11 Military Response

The good General is wrong. Those jets werre off course and had every right to be shot down.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-12-05   16:28:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I disagree with both of those statements. For someone who claimed in this post not to have looked into nano-thermite in any depth until less than two weeks ago, you seem to have like a religious fervor for the stuff. The magnitude of powers you've attributed to it are way over-estimated.

I would have thought the issue would have been looked into by now. Apparently it hadn't, and yes, the military along with at least one national laboratory were actively looking into nanothermite explosives since at least the 90's.

THAT is a fact, unlike your fictional "energy beam" weapon which you can't seem to find any info on, and can't describe where it'd be situated in order to destroy the WTC towers.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-12-05   16:52:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Jones' alleged samples are rubbish. He and his crew didn't even try to find traces of conventional explosives.

Uh huh. Where's your data which makes this a "fact"? And how do you know what exactly they tried to find or didn't?

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-12-05   16:53:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Hi FL

I worked 2 decades + front end....fabricating oil/nat gas process systems.
CNC underwater cut/Cryogenic nitrogen - plasma gantry,
move plate and finished vessels with 50 ton remote control cranes.
I have many years of metallurgy,ultrasound insp ticket,...nuclear weld xray
senior burner....machine operator.
We used 2" boxed column as supports under pressure vessels which went into ovens with 24 fired gas burners and heat treated/equalized the vessels welds for over 12 hours sometimes.....above the pissy useless value of burning avfuel.....neither the 2" boxed supports...nor the pressure vessel ....nor even the railcar which loaded all into a huge oven...melted,failed,...saged.
Its BS that the 64 2" core columns failed in the carbon based fire after the jet fuel was consumed.
so it requires assisted intervention....where you see fountains of molten steel and alloy flow out of the towers like a waterfall.....thats the Nano - thermate/thermite...doing its thing.
yet still...you can see the top portion of the tower pivot over centre and lean...some 30 plus floors...and become powder in milliseconds!
Thats a directed energy weapon!

This ends the BS that Moo si lums did 9-11.
Only dept's and here....its like Area 51 stuff.....have access to Directed Energy weapons.
The people who want to take down Iraq,A stan,Libya and Syria are the ones who did 9- 11
Zbigniew B and Grand chessboard/Fake war on Terror.....9-11 was the kick off for the next phase.

Parrot with speed dial  posted on  2012-12-05   17:23:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

you can see the top portion of the tower pivot over centre and lean...some 30 plus floors...and become powder in milliseconds! Thats a directed energy weapon!

There is not one directed energy weapon that I am aware of which can turn concrete to dust.

There ARE explosives however which can, and DO, accomplish that. Ever see a controlled demolition?

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-12-05   17:58:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Ever see a controlled demolition?

Conventional explosives don't cause molecular dissociation which was seen at the wtc.

wudidiz  posted on  2012-12-05   19:00:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The good General is wrong. Those jets werre off course and had every right to be shot down.

I have to strongly disagree with everything you said there except "good General". It's a good thing, imo, that it's not your decision to order a death sentence for passengers and crews if the jets they're on go off course -- due to equipment malfunction or otherwise. That could also get some people and building-properties on the ground needlessly obliterated too when the situation might have been more humanely resolvable.

Edited for spelling and spacing.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-12-05   19:59:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Conventional explosives don't cause molecular dissociation which was seen at the wtc.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!

Do you even know what molecular dissociation IS, or are you just using a word you found at one of your psuedoscience sites?

Name me ONE, just ONE, REAL "directed energy" weapon which could cause such a thing.

Again, I don't mean something you find on science fiction shows, like Star Trek. I mean something REAL.

BTW, did you personally analyze the WTC debris and find that there were any "unassociated molecules"? If so, please describe to me the analysis, ie. what procedures and what instruments were used to make such a determination.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-12-05   20:10:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

the military along with at least one national laboratory were actively looking into nanothermite explosives since at least the 90's.

THAT is a fact

This is about the third time now that I've tried to ask you this question but so what? That's their job and they've been actively looking at Directed Energy weaponry systems for much longer than that.

unlike your fictional "energy beam" weapon which you can't seem to find any info on, and can't describe where it'd be situated in order to destroy the WTC towers.

Oh, that's rich, as the saying goes -- rich in Chutzpah. Your off-kilter, evidentiary double-standards are mighty funny, considering that merely the name "Dov Zakheim" equates to evidence of remote controlled 9/11 planes in your opinion and the Military doing its job in the field of explosives as evidence enough that thermitics brought the Towers down, as Jones sure doesn't have any credible evidence for you to bank on that agent so persistently.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-12-05   20:32:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Tell us the one about how those vehicles were demolished by conventional controlled demolition with some majikal nanothermite in the "pancake mix", FL. And what do you call that story? Reminds me somewhat of "Little Black Sambo".

Edited to reword the first two sentences and this one.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-12-05   21:01:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

This is about the third time now that I've tried to ask you this question but so what? That's their job and they've been actively looking at Directed Energy weaponry systems for much longer than that.

What it comes down to is that unlike your wishful thinking and baseless assertions concerning disintegrator beams from space, nanothermite explosives DO most likely exist.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-12-05   21:53:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Oh, that's rich

Yes, it sure is. It's VERY rich that you can't even tell us where you think that "directed energy beam" weapon was fired from in order to destroy the WTC towers, since you are INSISTING that is what happened.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-12-05   21:54:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Tell us the one about how those vehicles were demolished by conventional controlled demolition with some majikal nanothermite in the "pancake mix", FL.

Hey genius, tell us how a nuclear explosion occured in the WTC towers and nobody noticed.

As far as your ridiculous comments, DEBRIS can and DOES damage objects in its path. Being that you can't even spell magical, I can see how you might not understand such things.

Yep, new generation explosives don't exist, in your mind, yet Captain Kirk's phaser beams from space actually do.

You are one messed up unit.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-12-05   21:57:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

There is not one directed energy weapon that I am aware of which can turn concrete to dust.

After you walk us through all the stuff at Area 51 and similar secretive installations here of which you are aware and declare that's all there is cuz that's all the stashes you are aware of, I'd like to hear your report on "that's all there is cuz that's all the stashes you are aware of" after you come back from running through all of the secretive installations in foreign places like the UK, France, Russia, China, Israel...

Ever see a controlled demolition?

Just my opinion, but I don't think it's good protocol to talk down so to that Parrot with speed dial. He seems to be immensely more aware of the overall picture at the WTC than you.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-12-05   22:03:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

In your mind you already have it all figured out and everyone one else on planet earth that does not agree with every aspect of the story that you have magically worked out to the smallest detail.... well those that oppose you must be with the terrorists.

Fucking stupid.

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