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Title: ‘Iraqis cannot forget what Americans have done here’
Source: antiwar.com
URL Source: http://antiwar.com/blog/2012/11/29/ ... what-americans-have-done-here/
Published: Dec 1, 2012
Author: Cathy Breen
Post Date: 2012-12-01 20:04:40 by F.A. Hayek Fan
Keywords: None
Views: 700
Comments: 13

“It is not written in our hearts, it is carved in our hearts.” I awoke this morning still shaken with these words in my head.

Yesterday I was in Ramadi and Fallujah. Instead of bringing a message of caring, of empathy for their suffering and a desire for peace, my presence as someone from the U.S, seemed to open wounds that are unfathomably deep.

I sat in on a lecture, given in English, to maybe fifty or more young men and women at a college in Ramadi. They were all about 22 and 23 years of age, in their last year of a 5-year program. That means they were about 13 or 14 years old during the U.S. led invasion and beginning of the occupation. I was invited to speak by the president as an “honored guest” after the lecture. To my embarrassment the professor graciously hurried through his lecture on my account. I had everyone’s attention. It was awkward for me, and after introducing myself, I said I would be grateful to hear from them. There was only silence. I am sure my words sounded empty, trite and artificial.

Then a young man in the front row only a couple of feet from me said in a quiet voice “We have nothing to say. The last years have been only sad ones.” Again there was silence.

Sami, my host from Najaf and part of the Muslim Peacemaker Team, stood and shared. He told the story of how, after the U.S. bombing assaults on Fallujah, he and others came from the Shia cities of Najaf and Karbala, to carry out a symbolic act of cleaning up rubble and trash in the streets of Fallujah. This gesture, he said, melted hearts and healed some of the brokenness between Sunni and Shia. He spoke of the delegation of peacemakers from the United States who were just in Najaf for twelve days, of the work to build bridges and seek reconciliation.

An impassioned young woman from the middle of the lecture hall spoke up. It was obviously not easy for her. “It is not,” she said, “about lack of water and electricity [something I had mentioned]. You have destroyed everything. You have destroyed our country. You have destroyed what is inside of us! You have destroyed our ancient civilization. You have taken our smiles from us. You have taken our dreams!”

Someone asked, “Why did you this? What did we do to you that you would do this to us?”

“Iraqis cannot forget what Americans have done here,” said another. “They destroyed the childhood. You don’t destroy everything and then say ‘We’re sorry.’ “You don’t commit crimes and then say ‘Sorry.’”

“To bomb us and then send teams to do investigations on the effects of the bombs…No, it will not be forgotten. It is not written on our hearts, it is carved in our hearts.”

We are happy to make bridges between people, said the president of the college, but we will not forget. What can you do? In Fallujah 30% of the babies are born deformed.” What can you do?

He spoke of how he’d met an American soldier in the airport. He was part of the Special Forces in Iraq. The soldier told him “The bible tells us not to kill. But we were taught to kill, to kill for nothing. Just kill. I am so sorry.”

“Build bridges? the president repeated. Apologize? he said. What can you do?” There was no rancor in his tone or demeanor, only anger and deep pain.

A young man said….The U.S. is still here. There are fifteen thousand people at the U.S. embassy in Baghdad. [and 5,000 security personal to protect them]. They have their collaborators. The war is not over.

We later visited a Sheik in Fallujah in his home. He and Sami embraced warmly and he welcomed us into the sitting area. In the course of our sharing we spoke of our visit to nearby Ramadi, of what was said there. “War always results in two losers,” he said sorrowfully.

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#3. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#0)

Someone asked, “Why did you this? What did we do to you that you would do this to us?”

Seriously dude, do you need it spelled out? It was for Israel's national security.

scrapper2  posted on  2012-12-02   1:37:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: scrapper2 (#3)

Seriously dude, do you need it spelled out? It was for Israel's national security.

No it wasn't. It was mostly for Israel, but not for their security. It was primarily to steal their oil.

RickyJ  posted on  2012-12-02   6:12:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: RickyJ (#4)

No it wasn't. It was mostly for Israel, but not for their security. It was primarily to steal their oil.

a. Israel didn't need Iraq's oil. Egypt was req'd by the 1979 Camp David Peace Treaty to sell Israel gas and oil @ below world market prices. And to supplement Egypt's oil and gas, Israel also bought oil from Nigeria, the UK, and even from some Arab nations ( Saudi Arabia?) via Turkey. Now Israel gets 90% of its oil from Russia and former Soviet republics via a new pipeline that was recently built.

www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=40035

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"In the past, Israel imported oil from Egypt, the North Sea, West Africa, and Mexico. According to officials at the Ministry of National Infrastructures, Israel now imports 90% of its oil from Russia and the Caspian region."

b. But Uncle Saddam's downfall was sealed when he offered to pay Pali families $25,000 every time a family member strapped on a suicide vest and popped himself in Israel taking with him some precious Israelis. With that announcement, Uncle Saddam put a target on himself and Iraq.

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2846365.stm

"Palestinians get Saddam funds" 03/13/2003

www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,48822,00.html

"Saddam Pays 25K for Palestinian Bombers" 03/26/02

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#10. To: scrapper2 (#7)

Saddam's fate was sealed was when he unhinged his oil sales from USD to Euro, with the plan to then move to gold Dinar. (Anyone leaving USD is an enemy.)

No one cared about bombers at all.

They still don't.

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