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Title: Ryan Dawson takes Alex Jones to the woodshed
Source: YooToob
URL Source: http://youtu.be/ssxEvQNa16E
Published: Dec 2, 2012
Author: Ryan Dawson
Post Date: 2012-12-02 20:31:30 by Esso
Keywords: None
Views: 3497
Comments: 84

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#11. To: Esso, Stadtmiller, Christine, Jethro Tull, Lod, 4UM, All, Jews too, Arabs, Muslims, (#0)

I try to be objective and I listen to all points of view. Jones probably does avoid the "Jew" conversation for good reason(s). There are millions and millions of misguided Christians that instantly reject those that speak against the State of Israel. While they are in error and ignorant of the Biblical truth that doesn't change their opinion. Until some zionazi puts a bullet in their head they will support the fraud that they see as God's will.

2ndly, if someone (anyone) wanted to wake up the most people possible to the myriad of anti-humanity issues such as the FED RESERVE, vaccines, flouride in the water, GMO foods, anti-2nd Amendment, TSA incursions, FEMA Camps, surveillance grids, Police State agendas, (Ron Paul), PNAC, and many other issues that I don't want to sit here and consider, but any effort to wake up the most people would require avoiding issues that divide or lessen the audience.

And while I think this young man is well intentioned and intelligent I believe he's picking a fight with a guy that has out performed every other "patriot" or "alternative" network bar NONE and has awakened more people too.

I noticed several comments that AJ made in the video that were loosely made by Jones and taken somewhat out of context. Jones has been on air for nearly 20 years now and I'm of the opinion that anyone having availed theirself to that much scrutiny can be heckled or ridiculed for a position that may or may not have changed.

In nearly 30 years of studious awareness of the encroachments against our liberty, our way of life, our Constitution, our courts, our children, and actually the entire world, I have witnessed most truth tellers destroyed for one reason or another, and not one obsessive Jew basher ever survived the ADL or others that will do their dirty work. Now this is a two edged sword and many will say "then how come Jones is still around" ???

Jones is shrewd. I might even go so far as to say he's one of "them" if he didn't attack every other issue on their agenda. He's having an effect. People are arming up, refusing vaccines, fighting and winning in court against checkpoints, and becoming more and more aware of the conditions surrounding them and fighting back because of Jones (and other lesser influences).

I ask myself whether or not I would obsess over the State of Israel issue if I were a Talk Show host. The evidence would forbid it. I certainly wouldn't support the State of Israel, and I would occasionally make it known that I believe it's a FRAUD, and that the conflict is killing little innocent kids, and that adults should be able to address the issue without killing children, especially all of these brain surgeons that come out of Harvard, Yale and Princeton who claim to be the best and brightest when running for office and yet become the most incompetent collection of parasites (THAT YOU VOTED FOR) as soon as they are elected.

The last comment from me on this subject is that there are a million better targets to focus on than Alex Jones. If someone would rather hear a perpetual attack on the Jews they should listen to Charlie Giulani or Deanna Spingola.

Anyone is free to go back through about 10 years of archives here at 4UM to see that I am no Jew lover and I also have issues with Alex Jones. But, I am interested in the truth too. No one person or network of people can possibly be the perfect oracle. In a world of confusion and hate one attempting to maximize their opportunity to awaken the public must pick their battles wisely with a focus to defeat the enemy of freedom. Even though I believe the zionazis are very formidable enemies of America and liberty I also believe there are patriotic Jews that have forfeited their well being to speak out against zionism and associated lies such as Arthur Koestler and Henry Macow to name just a couple.

OK, so I lied. I have one more comment. Those that obsess over Jones are worse than those obsessing over Jews. Jones is one little fat man with a big mouth and huge ego that has a tremendous audience in spite of his many flaws. So what does that say about his competition ?

noone222  posted on  2012-12-03   5:15:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: noone222 (#11)

yours is an accurate assessment, imo. well said. i also noticed that some of those comments by AJ shown in the video had me wondering when and in what context they were said.

i hear Alex criticize israel much, much more than i hear him defend it. i was especially surprised at the statement he made about "wiping israel off the map" by Ahmadenijad. i thought for sure i had heard Alex say that that was misinterpreted and that Ahmadenijad was speaking of the regime, not the country.

christine  posted on  2012-12-03   11:02:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: christine (#19)

i thought for sure i had heard Alex say that that was misinterpreted and that Ahmadenijad was speaking of the regime, not the country.

That was one that I thought, like you, Jones had actually argued against by stating that MEMRI was a pro-Israeli agency that had also done the translation from arabic or farsi to english, which Glenn Beck (amongst others) repeated at every opportunity.

We can choose to remain divided in order to focus upon an issue that hasn't much chance of solution or we can get organized against the multitude of grievances being foisted upon us by WHOMEVER and name - names irrespective of their ethnic or alleged religion.

What really needs to occur is for people to take a deep hard look at themselves and ask how can we support the atrocious behavior of the out of control government of the U.S. - regardless of who is behind it.

noone222  posted on  2012-12-03   12:31:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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