Title: Ryan Dawson takes Alex Jones to the woodshed Source:
YooToob URL Source:http://youtu.be/ssxEvQNa16E Published:Dec 2, 2012 Author:Ryan Dawson Post Date:2012-12-02 20:31:30 by Esso Keywords:None Views:5823 Comments:84
#11. To: Esso, Stadtmiller, Christine, Jethro Tull, Lod, 4UM, All, Jews too, Arabs, Muslims, (#0)
I try to be objective and I listen to all points of view. Jones probably does avoid the "Jew" conversation for good reason(s). There are millions and millions of misguided Christians that instantly reject those that speak against the State of Israel. While they are in error and ignorant of the Biblical truth that doesn't change their opinion. Until some zionazi puts a bullet in their head they will support the fraud that they see as God's will.
2ndly, if someone (anyone) wanted to wake up the most people possible to the myriad of anti-humanity issues such as the FED RESERVE, vaccines, flouride in the water, GMO foods, anti-2nd Amendment, TSA incursions, FEMA Camps, surveillance grids, Police State agendas, (Ron Paul), PNAC, and many other issues that I don't want to sit here and consider, but any effort to wake up the most people would require avoiding issues that divide or lessen the audience.
And while I think this young man is well intentioned and intelligent I believe he's picking a fight with a guy that has out performed every other "patriot" or "alternative" network bar NONE and has awakened more people too.
I noticed several comments that AJ made in the video that were loosely made by Jones and taken somewhat out of context. Jones has been on air for nearly 20 years now and I'm of the opinion that anyone having availed theirself to that much scrutiny can be heckled or ridiculed for a position that may or may not have changed.
In nearly 30 years of studious awareness of the encroachments against our liberty, our way of life, our Constitution, our courts, our children, and actually the entire world, I have witnessed most truth tellers destroyed for one reason or another, and not one obsessive Jew basher ever survived the ADL or others that will do their dirty work. Now this is a two edged sword and many will say "then how come Jones is still around" ???
Jones is shrewd. I might even go so far as to say he's one of "them" if he didn't attack every other issue on their agenda. He's having an effect. People are arming up, refusing vaccines, fighting and winning in court against checkpoints, and becoming more and more aware of the conditions surrounding them and fighting back because of Jones (and other lesser influences).
I ask myself whether or not I would obsess over the State of Israel issue if I were a Talk Show host. The evidence would forbid it. I certainly wouldn't support the State of Israel, and I would occasionally make it known that I believe it's a FRAUD, and that the conflict is killing little innocent kids, and that adults should be able to address the issue without killing children, especially all of these brain surgeons that come out of Harvard, Yale and Princeton who claim to be the best and brightest when running for office and yet become the most incompetent collection of parasites (THAT YOU VOTED FOR) as soon as they are elected.
The last comment from me on this subject is that there are a million better targets to focus on than Alex Jones. If someone would rather hear a perpetual attack on the Jews they should listen to Charlie Giulani or Deanna Spingola.
Anyone is free to go back through about 10 years of archives here at 4UM to see that I am no Jew lover and I also have issues with Alex Jones. But, I am interested in the truth too. No one person or network of people can possibly be the perfect oracle. In a world of confusion and hate one attempting to maximize their opportunity to awaken the public must pick their battles wisely with a focus to defeat the enemy of freedom. Even though I believe the zionazis are very formidable enemies of America and liberty I also believe there are patriotic Jews that have forfeited their well being to speak out against zionism and associated lies such as Arthur Koestler and Henry Macow to name just a couple.
OK, so I lied. I have one more comment. Those that obsess over Jones are worse than those obsessing over Jews. Jones is one little fat man with a big mouth and huge ego that has a tremendous audience in spite of his many flaws. So what does that say about his competition ?
And while I think this young man is well intentioned and intelligent I believe he's picking a fight with a guy that has out performed every other "patriot" or "alternative" network bar NONE and has awakened more people too
Hey Noone we were that entity that was in the lead in the alternative media. Numbers wise in '07 we were kicking GCN's ass. We had just one bird. They had four. It was not diluted with computer or gardening shows. Our numbers were outstripping his network. Jones tried to "help" me with my network. When I did'nt take his advice, the attemted take down was on. He and two of my employees went about taking RBNLIVE.com down and calling all my host and advertisers and telling them I was out of business. HE WAS DOING THIS HIMSELF! He wanted to be the end all be all for the patriots. We all know what happened in '08 with the economy, he tried to destroy me and RBN. That is a fact. We have not returned to our formal strength but we are still here. People like Jeff Rense or Mike Rivero or Jack Blood are not on GCN anymore. Why? Because they were a threat to Jones dominance. Please do not confuse this with jelousy or anything else of the kind. I know what this asshat really is. So you go ahead and keep justifying his motives and actions. I have gone head to head with ole Abe Foxman of the ADL, and guess what? He won't say anything or write anything about me anymore on the subject of being an anti-semite. Why? Because I asked him to keep writing about me and that would be the link to the jews to come and listen to what I had to say about Zionism. That I would educate them as to the difference between Judism or Jews vs Zionist. He never wrote another word about me. I tried years ago to help Alex tackle that very same subject the way I handled Abe Foxman. Did he do it? No. One more thing Noone, What is the NWO? What is their power stucture? Who are the worlds bankers? Who owns our media? Why does AIPAC basically run our Government? Why are we having endless wars in the mideast? Who are the core engineers of Liberalism in this country today? Where did world communism start and who were they? Is he educating people? Really? He is scaring the living shit out of everyone and not explaning and giving any solutions. I will never give in and I will never surrender. Follow asshat over the cliff if you want. The kid in the video knows. AND SO DO I. Do you Noone?
Unfortunately, I'm not privy to the inner workings of RBN or GCN. My view is that of a mere listener. I've donated money ($500.00 a few years ago) to your network, not GCN. I'm not an AJ groupie but I do listen to his program, usually on the continuous loop because the lady I live with prefers Deanna Spingola and detests Alex Jones.
People that have left various networks over the years all have their reasons, I'm sure. Plenty of folks have left RBN as well as GCN. I don't think that should make as much of an impact upon the listening audience as does the content of the programming.
Alex Jones is usually first to interview the people involved in current events of interest. Hearing from those directly (and negatively) affected by the NWO goons is something that I want and Jones delivers.
I listen to your show as well. I listened when you and Jones did a Saturday show. I listen to Glenn Beck and the other asshats that never discuss the FED or the Zionazis ... not because I like them or support them, but because I want to hear the lies they tell their audience or note the truths they never discuss.
I even listened to Michael Medved, a guy that patronizes Christians so that they'll go kill arabs because I want to know everyone's position. I have a good friend that's pretty much awake (in his own mind) yet he supports the State of Israel, recently converted to Catholicism but at least he finally did leave the Republican Party. (Quit the FEDERAL FRAUD altogether).
Truthfully, John, I don't think anyone in talk radio provides solutions. I think most of the alternative programming makes people more aware of the problems but suggests very little in the way of solutions.
The "so-called" patriot community is made up of some of the most stubborn and narrow-minded people that I have ever known. The enemy (NWO) provides us with a million divisive issues to fight over and we do. Maybe things have to get so bad that we can finally agree to solve the problem together or maybe we'll never get it together.
Their monetary system has you and most everyone else supporting it,(including Jones and Rense). Your business and most others rely upon the fiat/credit system to operate. And I don't have a solution for others except to say that I've withdrawn from that system to the greatest extent possible. It's inconvenient at times and restricts me in some ways, but ultimately that's what has to be done by everyone. As long as they provide the credit and currencies everyone else is a slave to some degree, there is NO CONSTITUTION because of the monetary (commercial usurpation) system or it's possible to consider someone supporting that system to be "one of them" because that distinction isn't really a wide gap. Either you support the murdering thugs or you don't.
Lastly, I'm not against you or RBN at all. I'm grateful for what you do and think you have a very valueable network. I'm for you. I also think Jones provides a worthy service on a grander scale regardless of your differences. Frankly, Jones' arrogance and ego often force me to turn him off. That's my choice. I've been in the so-called patriot movement damn near 30 years. I've fought the lawsuits, and the system for half of my freaking life. In that time not many talk shows or their hosts have been successful or able to remain solvent. But I think I'm aware of the NWO and WHO they are. I just don't think Jones has to beat that drum all day everyday or even at all to be of value to all of us.
Much of the info put out by talk hosts on the air and others at various "patriot" gatherings has resulted in others being financially harmed, locked up or worse. I don't want to badmouth anyone but everyone in your area is familiar with Dessie Andrews (I may have spelled it wrong). I know there were those that experienced negative impacts from her research and classes. She hosted on RBN at one time but left, as has Robby Noel, Jeff Bennett, Sam Kennedy, and Jack Blood. (And others - my point is that I'm not privy to all of their reasons nor do I want to be).
I haven't heard Jones badmouth you, your network, or your hosts but I do hear some RBN hosts badmouth Jones. I could be wrong about this but I haven't heard it, not even when your joint Saturday program ended.
Anyway, I didn't respond to the original post because I'm an Alex Jones groupie. I responded because I thought the attack was unsupported by facts just sound bites, small minded because it was a one issue attack upon Alex Jones that might be perceived by some of his listeners and potential converts to the Patriot movement as his being anti semetic if he continually bashed Jews or Israel, but most of all because it was counterproductive to unifying against the far larger enemy, tyranny, regardless of who is imposing it.
People that want a Jew bashing fest everyday should listen to Rick Adams, Deanna Spingola or (for early risers) Charles Giulani.
I responded because I thought the attack was unsupported by facts just sound bites, small minded because it was a one issue attack upon Alex Jones that might be perceived by some of his listeners and potential converts to the Patriot movement as his being anti semetic if he continually bashed Jews or Israel, but most of all because it was counterproductive to unifying against the far larger enemy, tyranny, regardless of who is imposing it.