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Title: Ryan Dawson takes Alex Jones to the woodshed
Source: YooToob
URL Source: http://youtu.be/ssxEvQNa16E
Published: Dec 2, 2012
Author: Ryan Dawson
Post Date: 2012-12-02 20:31:30 by Esso
Keywords: None
Views: 5902
Comments: 84

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#11. To: Esso, Stadtmiller, Christine, Jethro Tull, Lod, 4UM, All, Jews too, Arabs, Muslims, (#0)

I try to be objective and I listen to all points of view. Jones probably does avoid the "Jew" conversation for good reason(s). There are millions and millions of misguided Christians that instantly reject those that speak against the State of Israel. While they are in error and ignorant of the Biblical truth that doesn't change their opinion. Until some zionazi puts a bullet in their head they will support the fraud that they see as God's will.

2ndly, if someone (anyone) wanted to wake up the most people possible to the myriad of anti-humanity issues such as the FED RESERVE, vaccines, flouride in the water, GMO foods, anti-2nd Amendment, TSA incursions, FEMA Camps, surveillance grids, Police State agendas, (Ron Paul), PNAC, and many other issues that I don't want to sit here and consider, but any effort to wake up the most people would require avoiding issues that divide or lessen the audience.

And while I think this young man is well intentioned and intelligent I believe he's picking a fight with a guy that has out performed every other "patriot" or "alternative" network bar NONE and has awakened more people too.

I noticed several comments that AJ made in the video that were loosely made by Jones and taken somewhat out of context. Jones has been on air for nearly 20 years now and I'm of the opinion that anyone having availed theirself to that much scrutiny can be heckled or ridiculed for a position that may or may not have changed.

In nearly 30 years of studious awareness of the encroachments against our liberty, our way of life, our Constitution, our courts, our children, and actually the entire world, I have witnessed most truth tellers destroyed for one reason or another, and not one obsessive Jew basher ever survived the ADL or others that will do their dirty work. Now this is a two edged sword and many will say "then how come Jones is still around" ???

Jones is shrewd. I might even go so far as to say he's one of "them" if he didn't attack every other issue on their agenda. He's having an effect. People are arming up, refusing vaccines, fighting and winning in court against checkpoints, and becoming more and more aware of the conditions surrounding them and fighting back because of Jones (and other lesser influences).

I ask myself whether or not I would obsess over the State of Israel issue if I were a Talk Show host. The evidence would forbid it. I certainly wouldn't support the State of Israel, and I would occasionally make it known that I believe it's a FRAUD, and that the conflict is killing little innocent kids, and that adults should be able to address the issue without killing children, especially all of these brain surgeons that come out of Harvard, Yale and Princeton who claim to be the best and brightest when running for office and yet become the most incompetent collection of parasites (THAT YOU VOTED FOR) as soon as they are elected.

The last comment from me on this subject is that there are a million better targets to focus on than Alex Jones. If someone would rather hear a perpetual attack on the Jews they should listen to Charlie Giulani or Deanna Spingola.

Anyone is free to go back through about 10 years of archives here at 4UM to see that I am no Jew lover and I also have issues with Alex Jones. But, I am interested in the truth too. No one person or network of people can possibly be the perfect oracle. In a world of confusion and hate one attempting to maximize their opportunity to awaken the public must pick their battles wisely with a focus to defeat the enemy of freedom. Even though I believe the zionazis are very formidable enemies of America and liberty I also believe there are patriotic Jews that have forfeited their well being to speak out against zionism and associated lies such as Arthur Koestler and Henry Macow to name just a couple.

OK, so I lied. I have one more comment. Those that obsess over Jones are worse than those obsessing over Jews. Jones is one little fat man with a big mouth and huge ego that has a tremendous audience in spite of his many flaws. So what does that say about his competition ?

noone222  posted on  2012-12-03   5:15:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: noone222 (#11)

And while I think this young man is well intentioned and intelligent I believe he's picking a fight with a guy that has out performed every other "patriot" or "alternative" network bar NONE and has awakened more people too

Hey Noone we were that entity that was in the lead in the alternative media. Numbers wise in '07 we were kicking GCN's ass. We had just one bird. They had four. It was not diluted with computer or gardening shows. Our numbers were outstripping his network. Jones tried to "help" me with my network. When I did'nt take his advice, the attemted take down was on. He and two of my employees went about taking RBNLIVE.com down and calling all my host and advertisers and telling them I was out of business. HE WAS DOING THIS HIMSELF! He wanted to be the end all be all for the patriots. We all know what happened in '08 with the economy, he tried to destroy me and RBN. That is a fact. We have not returned to our formal strength but we are still here. People like Jeff Rense or Mike Rivero or Jack Blood are not on GCN anymore. Why? Because they were a threat to Jones dominance. Please do not confuse this with jelousy or anything else of the kind. I know what this asshat really is. So you go ahead and keep justifying his motives and actions. I have gone head to head with ole Abe Foxman of the ADL, and guess what? He won't say anything or write anything about me anymore on the subject of being an anti-semite. Why? Because I asked him to keep writing about me and that would be the link to the jews to come and listen to what I had to say about Zionism. That I would educate them as to the difference between Judism or Jews vs Zionist. He never wrote another word about me. I tried years ago to help Alex tackle that very same subject the way I handled Abe Foxman. Did he do it? No. One more thing Noone, What is the NWO? What is their power stucture? Who are the worlds bankers? Who owns our media? Why does AIPAC basically run our Government? Why are we having endless wars in the mideast? Who are the core engineers of Liberalism in this country today? Where did world communism start and who were they? Is he educating people? Really? He is scaring the living shit out of everyone and not explaning and giving any solutions. I will never give in and I will never surrender. Follow asshat over the cliff if you want. The kid in the video knows. AND SO DO I. Do you Noone?

john stadtmiller  posted on  2012-12-03   13:05:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: john stadtmiller (#25) (Edited)

People like Jeff Rense or Mike Rivero or Jack Blood are not on GCN anymore.

Sure....I've been on the net a looong time.
watching the wars as media persons get run off from RBN,GCN.
Outing Alex Jones is easy....
There is however a more difficult wall to overcome....that being organized religion.
I was involved in Christian/Pentecostal ministry....and Messianic fellowship for the Jewish side.
I'm out !....websites like Jesus never existed [Ken Humphreys]...and the recent Caears Messiah clear the way...give closure.
The Hebrew/Jewish testimony via several works is pure contrived BS with stolen mythology from other cultures and lots of redacted -Zion Mind ______!

Once a person realizes this is BS...then the mythical carpentar is next.
Breaking away from the false Jesus reality is the most difficult.
I find it best to front the resources and leave time to do its work.
If you cannot break free of mythical jesus....you can't be free from the overall Socio/MK ultra....all 3 Abrahamic religions are entangled and played.
HG Wells during his time writing for the Fabians mentioned in the book...The Shape of things to come*...that Zionism would be used to create world rejection of the Jew and Judaism.
and that Christianity and Islam would be run to ground...before the full Global Governence sat to rule all.
You can make a statement like that....if your with the Elite and know....all 3** are contrived by man....are fake religions.
People in general are trusting...or follow the group dynamic.
so its very difficult to stand alone or aside...and be one who says the US never landed a man on the moon.
no man has ever gone farther in space than the space shuttle and lived. 400 miles!
That 9-11 was run by command of the Global elite who have access to very high level technology.
sure...they used nano thermite/thermate to bring down the 2 WTC's...
but they also used directed energy weapon...as people on the ground felt an unseen force push them...like the way you feel 2 magnets repelling....and some were even lifted off the ground and thrown.
Peeling this onion is difficult.....the MSN had pre canned video which was fake of the WTC collapse and the 2nd tower getting hit by the CGI plane.
endless ninnying over details simply fails.....9-11 was the kick off for the next phase of Grand Chessboard.....and yes...there is significant Occult* overtones to 9-11.
The Fake War on Terror plugs into the Religion template.....now the Elite can move the bulk of humanity which ever way they choose.
War and Final Judgement doom are in all the 3 fake religions writings.....they can go to that well endlessly and push the fear along.
I was banned at LP a week or so back for outing fake Christianity and Judaism.
This is the price for bringing what the sheeple can't bear to look at .
The Globalists will topple the mid east and move their Missile shield ever closer to Russia.
in the 2020's...both Russia and China's military upgrade and new build weapons programs will be online.
If it becomes WW-3....no Mukdee will appear for Iran,....Mythical Jesus will not appear on a White horse....and Messiach will not appear for IsraHell.

mankind will experience sorrow unmatched....as all their hopes vanish and what remains...is just man......man who rules over others with no compassion.

Parrot with speed dial  posted on  2012-12-03   17:11:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Parrot with speed dial (#30)

well, i have to say your post was very thought provoking!

christine  posted on  2012-12-03   18:02:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: christine (#36)

well, i have to say your post was very thought provoking!

Hi christine...

It takes time....and ya......its gonna hurt

as mentioned....its a mystery as to when and how....a person kicks free of things.

I do believe in a higher something christine.
No...not Ghia...or any channeling spirits.....or any other man made religion.

simply put.....when my carbon based body perishes on this earth....what passes for my life experience/my person/my spirit...will ascend.
Ever had a cat or dog.....or a pet which you talked too.....and it responded to you with love/affection?
Well...thats the reality proof of sentient reality.
Do they require a cross for their salvation?
There is a site in Turkey named Gobekli Tepi...visit the images on Google image search.
Its dated to 9000 bc christine....the raised megaliths...there is 21 ring sites....and some of the megaliths have etched reliefs of constellations...the Zodiac...an early zodiac at 9000bc.
no Hebrews in site now christine.....who did these people wonder upon as god?...what was sentient life for them?
Arthur Posnansky found the skeletons of giants with 3x elongated skulls burried in detritus around Tiwanaku...dated to 13,000bc...and possibly farther back to 30,000.
sure...the bible says there was giants....yet the evidence proves their was races of giants...going so far back...there is no written record.

There are pyramid fields/grids all over the earth....there are 3 in China which match giza in scale and size...
there is an ancient world.... organized religion is not wanting you to discern.
same with mainstream science....a religion in itself...it does not want you* to think or view with independent thought.

christine...our human DNA has some 4000 genetic defects latent in the DNA[see LLoyd Pye on google]
our 2nd chromosome block is actually a fused pairing of 2....we are 23....and primates are 24.
we have been genetically augmented to become 23?.....why?.....who?
would god create such a flawed being?
yet we exist!....and so did the races of giants.
Fear and control is what holds a person back.
as mentioned....I struggled some christine...and needed certain support nets to fully break away.
I've also had intervention events in my life...survived 3 vehicle accidents....and in 1....a semi rolled over and nearly killed me....yet I lived...and ran over to the overturned rig and pulled the driver out.
We are each...placed in this time...for a reason.
Life challenges us....and sometimes will not let go....even if we get angry,...it press's us to another position.....it moves us away..into True Freedom.

We are Light...if we so choose,....and with respect....can help others along the path of life.
sometimes we are told to go away.....leave.....

and We do,.....because We love : )

Parrot with speed dial  posted on  2012-12-03   18:38:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Parrot with speed dial (#43)

i had long conversations with my friend, Randy Weaver, several years ago when he visited us in Austin, about much of what you shared in your posts. His and his wife's research led them to the same conclusions as yours.

christine  posted on  2012-12-03   18:57:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: christine (#47) (Edited)

LOL, I got to meet him in Austin. I was shielded from that news event so I had no clue who he was till I heard his story in person from him. I got to talk with him at length afterwards...about revolution, activism, that sort of thing...

flabbergasting history....

The tyranny must be ended.

titorite  posted on  2012-12-03   21:57:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#63. To: titorite (#56)

neo-cunts

noone222  posted on  2012-12-04 07:26:51 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: titorite (#56)

are you talking about at the Silver Eagle? or the other event at that park (sorry i can't recall the name of it or where it was)? if so, i was at both.

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