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Title: Bigfoot DNA Tests Prove Hairy Creature Exists, Genetic Researcher Says
Source: huffington post
URL Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/ ... -exists-genetic_n_2199984.html
Published: Dec 3, 2012
Author: Lee Speigel
Post Date: 2012-12-03 19:57:23 by farmfriend
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Bigfoot DNA Tests Prove Hairy Creature Exists, Genetic Researcher Says

Lee Speigel
lee.speigel@huffingtonpost.com

Bigfoot is real. At least that's what veterinarian Melba S. Ketchum claims after a five-year study of more than 100 DNA samples that she believes comes from the elusive hairy beast.

Under Ketchum's direction at DNA Diagnostics in Nacogdoches, Texas, a team of researchers has concluded that the creature may be a human relative that somehow developed around 15,000 years ago as a result of a hybrid cross between Homo sapiens with an unknown primate.

Ketchum's research has yet to stand the scrutiny of independent researchers. While many people have claimed to have seen the creature, its existence has never been confirmed, despite a plethora of photos and footprints. The ongoing search is the subject of Animal Planet's "Finding Bigfoot" television series.

"Well, it came to me, I didn't go after it, that's for sure," Ketchum said of the evidence of Bigfoot's existence in an exclusive interview with The Huffington Post. "I did not believe in these creatures. But my lab did a lot of animal testing, and we did species identification. We didn't have any hits on anything interesting until five years ago."

Ketchum's professional work includes nearly 30 years in genetics research and forensics. After her team attempted DNA sequencing of hair samples from an alleged Bigfoot encounter, they found some unusual things in the hair. But there wasn't enough DNA to conclusively verify what they were seeing.

DNA Diagnostics received more samples to investigate -- including hair, blood, saliva and urine, all reportedly from various Bigfoot sightings.

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I have to admit I watch the show Finding Bigfoot. I get a kick out of them making statements about how Sasquatches do this or that and what we "know" about them. Cracks me up.

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My criticism about the existence of "Bigfoot" is: N. America is covered with game camera's, where's the photo-proof?? The best bowhunters in the world go way back in the wilderness of the Lower 48, where's their Bigfoot trophy, or footprint pics, or sightings??? Carcasses or bones, where are they???

I'm not about to buy into a myth without conclusive proof.

Can any government "scientific" expeditions do a better job exploring the woods than the American Hunter?? Since the first white men hit the shores of America not one hunter/farmer has ever bagged one, and that's many generations of hunting, along with a Civil War that had men crashing through the countryside and a Depression that had desperate men shooting anything they could eat. That's enough proof for me that they don't exist.

Occam's Razor says that until substantial empirical evidence surfaces, they don't exist. A DNA test without any other physical evidence just doesn't cut it for me. IOW, "Bring Me The Head Of Bigfoot!!"

X-15  posted on  2012-12-03   20:08:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

After having seen one I became a believer.

The problem with "finding" Bigfoot is that they appear to be nocturnal and so are simply not out there to be seen during the day. Most of the reports and sightings have come from twilight, early morning, and at night. The one I saw was at night when I was 12 and I did not get a good look at it. Just enough to know that it looked like a man shape but was way too big, and too quiet, to be a man. Spooked the shit out of me.

Also there does not appear to be a lot of them and they seem to favor very remote areas well away from humans although there have been a few exceptions.

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-12-03   20:50:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

The show Ancient Aliens did an episode on Bigfoot. They were speculating that they are either an alien created hybrid or aliens themselves. They also suggested they might be inter dimensional beings.

farmfriend  posted on  2012-12-03   21:39:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Nope, not buying that, either. Those alleged critters would have to survive year-round in the American wilderness, decades on end, without any hunters bringing forth reliable evidence of their existence. Where are the carcasses?? Where are the Injun skins of bigfoot?? Where is any proof that they exist?? It'll take a room-temperature body on a cold slab to convince me that they exist.

It's 2012: the world's best hunters are right here in America and they haven't brought back anything from their numerous hunting expeditions all over the N. American continent to document the existence of an overgrown ape with furry hobbit-feet.

X-15  posted on  2012-12-03   21:57:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Where are the carcasses?? Where are the Injun skins of bigfoot?? Where is any proof that they exist??

I share your skepticism.

Most carefully examining the evidence and assumptions that lie behind a proposition is a very healthy habit of mind. Sharp-eyed skepticism is especially warranted in the world we live in where all kinds of claptrap is routinely thrown at us like we were all a tribe of credulous kids.

Before this thread bites the dust though, I'd like to toss in this video and recommend it to you in partial answer to your questions. It suggests there's more to the history of this continent than we've been taught to believe and it adds more evidence to a growing pile of research that challenges our assumptions about the bipedals that have walked this earth.

There's a bit of a global warming rant at the end that I found kind of annoying, but that's neither here nor there with respect to the evidence Jim Vieira presents in this short video.

Anyway, ff to 8:30 if you like and see what Vieira has to say about North American "giants."

randge  posted on  2012-12-04   14:22:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Haven't watched the full clip at this late hour, but there is a way to mechanically move extremely large/heavy rocks with very minimal help. In fact, one relatively small guy single handedly constructed what is now called coral castle. (.com). He somehow mined coral from somewhere nearby in enormous chucks, and brought them to his site where he erected them. He weighed just over 100 lbs and was abuut 5 feet tall.

I think "necessity is the mother of invention" is applicable here. Today we got heavy machinery to do this kind of work, but if a race of people doesn't have that, they'll devise a way to move such blocks of stone. It would explain the pyramids, Easter Island, Stonehenge and a number of others ancient mystery sites without having to have any giants or space aliens helping.

Doesn't mean there was no extraordinary giants around way back when,

A few today say they have figured out how to do it also.

Pinguinite  posted on  2012-12-05   2:31:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Even more remarkable than what builders were able to build in ancient days, in many ways, are the bones that they left behind.

That's why I suggested that readers fast forward to 8:30 in the Vieira video to see the published written and photographic evidence of North American giants. It's impressive in the number of attested disinterments of these individuals and in the character of the reports. These are primarily stories in local news journals of public exhumations of large skeletons attended by local notables. In other words, these exhumations were done in the open and were attdended by many witnesses. One or two reports could be discounted as oddities, but the number of the published reports that Jim Vieira has collected adds up to create a larger picture and raises interesting questions.

These reports are different in character than the reports that we get on "Bigfoot," which are more anecdotal than the "giant" stories, are less well attested and have less substance to them.

Clearly, there's a hidden history here of human subtypes that created the civilizations on whose shoulders we stand. I have spent a bit of time looking at the conehead found in South America in great numbers and across other continents as well, as they show that there was a great variety of human types in existence in near-historical times. The coneheads are really remarkable in that they possess an anatomy quite distinct from any higher primate types - including those of human beings.

Human skulls have a frontal plate separated from two parietal plates by a coronal suture. In other words, the dome of our skulls consists of three plates. This is true of all the higher primates (and the lower ones as well). Coneheads have only two plates. One in front and one to the rear. These skulls are also unique in that there are two occipital foramina (holes) in the rear, which human skull do not exhibit at all. Conehead skulls exhibit come other anomalies as well, in the structure of the temporal bones, dentition, and the size of the eye sockets.

While she was on a visit at our place a short while ago, I took the opportunity to show my sister some of the videos made by Brien Foerster at the Paracas museum featuring its collection of SA conehead skulls. She taught human anatomy for quite a while at a university, and you could class her as an expert. She's not an anatomist but a neurologist. Nevertheless she damned well knows her bones and sutures and foramina and so forth. She found what seh saw there breathtaking. We spent quite a bit of time looking at human and ape skulls tring to find anything similar to the conehead specimens, and had to conlude that they are quite unlike anything else that walked on two legs.

Anyhow, here's Brien Foerster describing conehead skulls. They're not fossils, and they contain enough organic material to make DNA analysis possible. Foerster is collecting funds for a full-scale DNA workup on tissue samples.

It's certain that the history of human kind is not consistent with what's been dished up to us in school.

randge  posted on  2012-12-05   12:56:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Brien Foerster has been a forum poster at Graham Hancocks site for several years.
We have threads on Giants going back many years...can access these via search on Mysteries forum.
The most compelling argument I have found over years of research is the findings of Arthur Posnansky who spent decades in the Andes region.
David Flynn discovered via google earth...removed grids of terrains....even rock,...some are matched to scale with a 747...and are bigger than 3 747's in scale.
These terrains/grid patterns go up and over hills,mountains...valleys...for hundreds of sq miles.
Here's the kicker....this was done in the Pleistocene era
Posnansky found the skeletons of giants....with the 3x elongated skulls....burried in flood detritus to a depth of 6ft....ontop of these ancient terrain grids around Tiwanaku.
below the flood detritus ...was discovered various evidence the region was annihilated in some great conflaguration of fire....then the flood....and then the skeletons.
Posnansky dated these to 13,000 bp....and suggested they could go as far back as 30,000.
Inca legends/mythology claim that giants built some of the ancient fortress's
and were a race.....yet before them...another race....suggesting they were not human.
Bellamy and Horbiger suggested a falling satellite moon/moons caused the conflaguration in the Andes.
This is said via myth to have occured just prior to our Moon [Luna's].....capture.
Its possible Luna's capture pushed the smaller satellite moons into break up near earth via the Roche limit theory.
There is mythology of a time before the Moon....Velikovsky lists out the cultures with refs...even the Greeks have legacy mythology.
Mainstream science says our solar system has been the way we see it for umpteen millions of years.
Electric Universe and Saturn theory suggest our solar system has been in orbital divergence,chaos..and recent captures....as per Venus and the Moon.
This chaos would afford the reason why several extinction periods occured....and could include impactors.....but also leans towards phasic change in Earths Alpha,Beta,Delta,Theta EM wave cycle....which the planet....and all living things...cycle each say.
dramatically alter the frequency and amplitude....you can crash DNA...even though it is write protect to this planet....DNA can only hold up under so much.
There's a reason why the ancient races of beings which were not human...the giant races.....why they clocked out.

Parrot with speed dial  posted on  2012-12-05   16:48:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I feel like I've just cracked the lid of a very big box and I'm just able to peer through the crack trying to guess what's inside.

Thanks for the steer.

randge  posted on  2012-12-05   22:07:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I feel like I've just cracked the lid of a very big box and I'm just able to peer through the crack trying to guess what's inside.

There's several candidate theme's which could speak to ancient forms*
One is Galactic Panspermia.....that forms exist in the cosmos,...and are seeded.
They take...on worlds where the surrounding environment and phasic wave form...can sustain them.
This could also be a type of program/write protect.
Earths ancient oceans had creatures teeming in them which look Alien like anything Hollyweird can come up with.
We still have them here by the way....they are different now....many are electro/phasic/luminous...hunt by wave form targeting...like radar.
some go luminous and have burster moments...and then dash away....the flash/deceptive luminousity can also be used to paralyze and then kill a prey.
deep ocean...but from time to time.....we detect them and record their activity.
getting back to write/protect programs.
These in more advanced forms....like hominins....can be genetically augmented....if your Engineer capable.
LLoyd Pye has some of the best data on Intervention theory and our human form.
Our 2nd Chromosome block is actually a fused pairing of 2
Higher Primates are 24....and we are 23...the hint is...we are a hybrid augment.
the question now....who else was 23?....we were made 23 to mate with them.
We have over 4000 genetic defects latent in our DNA....so we are not a perfect outcome.
We also via mythology are said to have lived longer life spans....and then this was altered...and we clocked out at 120 years....another intervention/augment?
It makes sense in my thinking that life exists in the cosmos.....the next question....are their advanced races/beings....who engineer/genetically augment life forms?
LLoyd Pye has also discovered that there are animals which are genetic augments...the Cheetah appears to have been cloned.
many Grains have genetic engineering and sudden appearence...almost to the time window....when we ...suddenly appear on the scene.

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