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Title: Bigfoot DNA Tests Prove Hairy Creature Exists, Genetic Researcher Says
Source: huffington post
URL Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/ ... -exists-genetic_n_2199984.html
Published: Dec 3, 2012
Author: Lee Speigel
Post Date: 2012-12-03 19:57:23 by farmfriend
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Bigfoot DNA Tests Prove Hairy Creature Exists, Genetic Researcher Says

Lee Speigel
lee.speigel@huffingtonpost.com

Bigfoot is real. At least that's what veterinarian Melba S. Ketchum claims after a five-year study of more than 100 DNA samples that she believes comes from the elusive hairy beast.

Under Ketchum's direction at DNA Diagnostics in Nacogdoches, Texas, a team of researchers has concluded that the creature may be a human relative that somehow developed around 15,000 years ago as a result of a hybrid cross between Homo sapiens with an unknown primate.

Ketchum's research has yet to stand the scrutiny of independent researchers. While many people have claimed to have seen the creature, its existence has never been confirmed, despite a plethora of photos and footprints. The ongoing search is the subject of Animal Planet's "Finding Bigfoot" television series.

"Well, it came to me, I didn't go after it, that's for sure," Ketchum said of the evidence of Bigfoot's existence in an exclusive interview with The Huffington Post. "I did not believe in these creatures. But my lab did a lot of animal testing, and we did species identification. We didn't have any hits on anything interesting until five years ago."

Ketchum's professional work includes nearly 30 years in genetics research and forensics. After her team attempted DNA sequencing of hair samples from an alleged Bigfoot encounter, they found some unusual things in the hair. But there wasn't enough DNA to conclusively verify what they were seeing.

DNA Diagnostics received more samples to investigate -- including hair, blood, saliva and urine, all reportedly from various Bigfoot sightings.


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I have to admit I watch the show Finding Bigfoot. I get a kick out of them making statements about how Sasquatches do this or that and what we "know" about them. Cracks me up.

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#1. To: farmfriend (#0)

My criticism about the existence of "Bigfoot" is: N. America is covered with game camera's, where's the photo-proof?? The best bowhunters in the world go way back in the wilderness of the Lower 48, where's their Bigfoot trophy, or footprint pics, or sightings??? Carcasses or bones, where are they???

I'm not about to buy into a myth without conclusive proof.

Can any government "scientific" expeditions do a better job exploring the woods than the American Hunter?? Since the first white men hit the shores of America not one hunter/farmer has ever bagged one, and that's many generations of hunting, along with a Civil War that had men crashing through the countryside and a Depression that had desperate men shooting anything they could eat. That's enough proof for me that they don't exist.

Occam's Razor says that until substantial empirical evidence surfaces, they don't exist. A DNA test without any other physical evidence just doesn't cut it for me. IOW, "Bring Me The Head Of Bigfoot!!"

X-15  posted on  2012-12-03   20:08:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: X-15, farmfriend, Armadillo (#1)

After having seen one I became a believer.

The problem with "finding" Bigfoot is that they appear to be nocturnal and so are simply not out there to be seen during the day. Most of the reports and sightings have come from twilight, early morning, and at night. The one I saw was at night when I was 12 and I did not get a good look at it. Just enough to know that it looked like a man shape but was way too big, and too quiet, to be a man. Spooked the shit out of me.

Also there does not appear to be a lot of them and they seem to favor very remote areas well away from humans although there have been a few exceptions.

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-12-03   20:50:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Original_Intent, X-15, Armadillo (#3)

The show Ancient Aliens did an episode on Bigfoot. They were speculating that they are either an alien created hybrid or aliens themselves. They also suggested they might be inter dimensional beings.

farmfriend  posted on  2012-12-03   21:39:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: farmfriend (#8) (Edited)

Nope, not buying that, either. Those alleged critters would have to survive year-round in the American wilderness, decades on end, without any hunters bringing forth reliable evidence of their existence. Where are the carcasses?? Where are the Injun skins of bigfoot?? Where is any proof that they exist?? It'll take a room-temperature body on a cold slab to convince me that they exist.

It's 2012: the world's best hunters are right here in America and they haven't brought back anything from their numerous hunting expeditions all over the N. American continent to document the existence of an overgrown ape with furry hobbit-feet.

X-15  posted on  2012-12-03   21:57:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: X-15, farmfriend, Armadillo, Obnoxicated, titorite, Pinguinite, noone222 (#11)

Where are the carcasses?? Where are the Injun skins of bigfoot?? Where is any proof that they exist??

I share your skepticism.

Most carefully examining the evidence and assumptions that lie behind a proposition is a very healthy habit of mind. Sharp-eyed skepticism is especially warranted in the world we live in where all kinds of claptrap is routinely thrown at us like we were all a tribe of credulous kids.

Before this thread bites the dust though, I'd like to toss in this video and recommend it to you in partial answer to your questions. It suggests there's more to the history of this continent than we've been taught to believe and it adds more evidence to a growing pile of research that challenges our assumptions about the bipedals that have walked this earth.

There's a bit of a global warming rant at the end that I found kind of annoying, but that's neither here nor there with respect to the evidence Jim Vieira presents in this short video.

Anyway, ff to 8:30 if you like and see what Vieira has to say about North American "giants."

randge  posted on  2012-12-04   14:22:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: randge (#22)

Haven't watched the full clip at this late hour, but there is a way to mechanically move extremely large/heavy rocks with very minimal help. In fact, one relatively small guy single handedly constructed what is now called coral castle. (.com). He somehow mined coral from somewhere nearby in enormous chucks, and brought them to his site where he erected them. He weighed just over 100 lbs and was abuut 5 feet tall.

I think "necessity is the mother of invention" is applicable here. Today we got heavy machinery to do this kind of work, but if a race of people doesn't have that, they'll devise a way to move such blocks of stone. It would explain the pyramids, Easter Island, Stonehenge and a number of others ancient mystery sites without having to have any giants or space aliens helping.

Doesn't mean there was no extraordinary giants around way back when,

A few today say they have figured out how to do it also.

Pinguinite  posted on  2012-12-05   2:31:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Pinguinite, X-15, farmfriend, Armadillo, Obnoxicated, titorite, noone222 (#32)

Even more remarkable than what builders were able to build in ancient days, in many ways, are the bones that they left behind.

That's why I suggested that readers fast forward to 8:30 in the Vieira video to see the published written and photographic evidence of North American giants. It's impressive in the number of attested disinterments of these individuals and in the character of the reports. These are primarily stories in local news journals of public exhumations of large skeletons attended by local notables. In other words, these exhumations were done in the open and were attdended by many witnesses. One or two reports could be discounted as oddities, but the number of the published reports that Jim Vieira has collected adds up to create a larger picture and raises interesting questions.

These reports are different in character than the reports that we get on "Bigfoot," which are more anecdotal than the "giant" stories, are less well attested and have less substance to them.

Clearly, there's a hidden history here of human subtypes that created the civilizations on whose shoulders we stand. I have spent a bit of time looking at the conehead found in South America in great numbers and across other continents as well, as they show that there was a great variety of human types in existence in near-historical times. The coneheads are really remarkable in that they possess an anatomy quite distinct from any higher primate types - including those of human beings.

Human skulls have a frontal plate separated from two parietal plates by a coronal suture. In other words, the dome of our skulls consists of three plates. This is true of all the higher primates (and the lower ones as well). Coneheads have only two plates. One in front and one to the rear. These skulls are also unique in that there are two occipital foramina (holes) in the rear, which human skull do not exhibit at all. Conehead skulls exhibit come other anomalies as well, in the structure of the temporal bones, dentition, and the size of the eye sockets.

While she was on a visit at our place a short while ago, I took the opportunity to show my sister some of the videos made by Brien Foerster at the Paracas museum featuring its collection of SA conehead skulls. She taught human anatomy for quite a while at a university, and you could class her as an expert. She's not an anatomist but a neurologist. Nevertheless she damned well knows her bones and sutures and foramina and so forth. She found what seh saw there breathtaking. We spent quite a bit of time looking at human and ape skulls tring to find anything similar to the conehead specimens, and had to conlude that they are quite unlike anything else that walked on two legs.

Anyhow, here's Brien Foerster describing conehead skulls. They're not fossils, and they contain enough organic material to make DNA analysis possible. Foerster is collecting funds for a full-scale DNA workup on tissue samples.

It's certain that the history of human kind is not consistent with what's been dished up to us in school.

randge  posted on  2012-12-05   12:56:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: randge, Pinguinite, X-15, farmfriend, Armadillo, Obnoxicated, titorite, noone222 (#33)

It's certain that the history of human kind is not consistent with what's been dished up to us in school.

That's a fact Jack. If a datum or piece of evidence does not fit the official mainstream chronlolgy instead of revising the theory to accomodate all of the evidence the evidence is derided and discarded. Nothing must be allowed to throw St. Darwin into question it is heretical and not to be tolerated.

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-12-05   14:48:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Original_Intent, randge, Pinguinite, X-15, Armadillo, Obnoxicated, titorite, noone222 (#34)

That's a fact Jack. If a datum or piece of evidence does not fit the official mainstream chronlolgy instead of revising the theory to accomodate all of the evidence the evidence is derided and discarded. Nothing must be allowed to throw St. Darwin into question it is heretical and not to be tolerated.

don't forget the noble savage American Indian and they were first no matter what etc.

farmfriend  posted on  2012-12-05   22:32:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: farmfriend (#38) (Edited)

don't forget the noble savage American Indian and they were first no matter what etc.

Frank Joseph of -Ancient America Magazine.
During one of his net audio interviews mentioned that America has experienced waves of migration from Asia in its distant past.
Joseph has found evidence of 2 such migration waves which failed....they were Genocided by the peoples already in the land after a time.
and during all this....there were several races of Giants still around while Mr Native America dreamed of Cash Cashheeno : )
Churchward was told and shown ancient texts in Asia which point back to the time of Lemuria/MU....which Joseph opines was a trans pacific/asia culture....which was subducted by techtonic chaos and rising ocean levels.
before this time....the ancient records speak about great wars between the Black Peoples and the Yellow skinned peoples.
so ya....our ancient history has been conflict and genocide...between our forms....and in competition with the giant races.
Cultures did mimic the 3x elongated skull form by head binding,.
yet the Skulls Arthur Posnansky found around Tiwanaku and others near Nazca
these are natural growth....very ancient....13,000 bp and possibly back to 30,000 bp.
they have skeletons of fetus and first 9 months/in the womb....and the babies have the elongated skulls.
also...there are families in the Ohio who dug up their property to build in the 1800's and forward...and found myriads of giant skeletons/graves.
some have reciepts they gave this over to the Gov/Smithsonian....who say they never were given the bones.
rumors there were so many obtained.....they dumped barge loads of them into the Atlantic ocean.

Parrot with speed dial  posted on  2012-12-05   23:30:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Parrot with speed dial (#40)

rumors there were so many obtained.....they dumped barge loads of them into the Atlantic ocean.

That wouldn't surprise me.

farmfriend  posted on  2012-12-06   2:12:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#43. To: farmfriend, Parrot with speed dial (#41)

rumors there were so many obtained.....they dumped barge loads of them into the Atlantic ocean.

That wouldn't surprise me.

The Smithsonian is notorious for sequestering, hiding, and denying anomalous artifacts and evidences. It just would not do to have the sheeple question their betters.

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-12-06 12:48:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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