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Title: Bigfoot DNA Tests Prove Hairy Creature Exists, Genetic Researcher Says
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Published: Dec 3, 2012
Author: Lee Speigel
Post Date: 2012-12-03 19:57:23 by farmfriend
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Lee Speigel Bigfoot is real. At least that's what veterinarian Melba S. Ketchum claims after a five-year study of more than 100 DNA samples that she believes comes from the elusive hairy beast. Under Ketchum's direction at DNA Diagnostics in Nacogdoches, Texas, a team of researchers has concluded that the creature may be a human relative that somehow developed around 15,000 years ago as a result of a hybrid cross between Homo sapiens with an unknown primate. Ketchum's research has yet to stand the scrutiny of independent researchers. While many people have claimed to have seen the creature, its existence has never been confirmed, despite a plethora of photos and footprints. The ongoing search is the subject of Animal Planet's "Finding Bigfoot" television series. "Well, it came to me, I didn't go after it, that's for sure," Ketchum said of the evidence of Bigfoot's existence in an exclusive interview with The Huffington Post. "I did not believe in these creatures. But my lab did a lot of animal testing, and we did species identification. We didn't have any hits on anything interesting until five years ago." Ketchum's professional work includes nearly 30 years in genetics research and forensics. After her team attempted DNA sequencing of hair samples from an alleged Bigfoot encounter, they found some unusual things in the hair. But there wasn't enough DNA to conclusively verify what they were seeing. DNA Diagnostics received more samples to investigate -- including hair, blood, saliva and urine, all reportedly from various Bigfoot sightings. Poster Comment: I have to admit I watch the show Finding Bigfoot. I get a kick out of them making statements about how Sasquatches do this or that and what we "know" about them. Cracks me up.Bigfoot DNA Tests Prove Hairy Creature Exists, Genetic Researcher Says
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#4. To: X-15 (#1)
Ms. Ketchum will never be able to come to a conclusion without a confirmed dna sample to compare to. Maybe she could track down a suitable donor walking among us, say Janet Reno or maybe Shaq.
Don't blame me. I didn't vote.
I've read about this on two different hunting forums and the consensus is the same: bullshit and shoddy science.
#5. To: Obnoxicated (#4)
-Alex Kurtagic
#6. To: farmfriend (#0)
Stalin told his scientists to create a chimpanzee/human cross to use as soldiers. hybrid cross between Homo sapiens with an unknown primate.
There are actually govt agents who spread conspiracy theories among the gullible to help promote the illusion that the govt is all powerful.
#7. To: X-15 (#1)
that's about where I'm at. I'm not about to buy into a myth without conclusive proof.
Does anyone honestly believe that the global elites whose wealth and power depend on manipulation of the global chess board would leave something like the Presidency up to chance?
#8. To: Original_Intent, X-15, Armadillo (#3)
The show Ancient Aliens did an episode on Bigfoot. They were speculating that they are either an alien created hybrid or aliens themselves. They also suggested they might be inter dimensional beings.
Does anyone honestly believe that the global elites whose wealth and power depend on manipulation of the global chess board would leave something like the Presidency up to chance?
#9. To: Obnoxicated (#4)
LOL Maybe she could track down a suitable donor walking among us, say Janet Reno or maybe Shaq.
Does anyone honestly believe that the global elites whose wealth and power depend on manipulation of the global chess board would leave something like the Presidency up to chance?
#10. To: X-15 (#1)
??? Game cameras have caught photos of it... good ones too. Alas I have forgoton where those links are but any search should be able to pop it up if one were so inclined. My criticism about the existence of "Bigfoot" is: N. America is covered with game camera's, where's the photo-proof??
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#11. To: farmfriend (#8) (Edited)
Nope, not buying that, either. Those alleged critters would have to survive year-round in the American wilderness, decades on end, without any hunters bringing forth reliable evidence of their existence. Where are the carcasses?? Where are the Injun skins of bigfoot?? Where is any proof that they exist?? It'll take a room-temperature body on a cold slab to convince me that they exist. It's 2012: the world's best hunters are right here in America and they haven't brought back anything from their numerous hunting expeditions all over the N. American continent to document the existence of an overgrown ape with furry hobbit-feet.
-Alex Kurtagic
#12. To: titorite, X-15 (#10)
Have at it. but any search should be able to pop it up if one were so inclined.
Does anyone honestly believe that the global elites whose wealth and power depend on manipulation of the global chess board would leave something like the Presidency up to chance?
#13. To: farmfriend (#12)
Have at it.
_______________________________________________________________________________ The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself,Take Action!!!
#14. To: farmfriend, titorite (#12)
Here's a game camera pic that sets the standard, no fuzzy/indistinct "mystery" shots count in 2012 (notice the time-stamp): 
-Alex Kurtagic
#15. To: farmfriend (#8)
I saw that show, and dont buy the hybrid-alien-dimensional theory.The show Ancient Aliens did an episode on Bigfoot. They were speculating that they are either an alien created hybrid or aliens themselves. They also suggested they might be inter dimensional beings.
America is a huge place, most of it is not developed, and lots of it is still forest. Plenty of places no modern hunter (and maybe no human) have ever been.
Bigfoot is probably an ape species or a human sub-species that came over with one of the indian migrations. IMHO.
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#16. To: X-15 (#14)
_______________________________________________________________________________ The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself,Take Action!!!
#17. To: X-15 (#1)
I'm with you here. If they existed, we'd have at least found dead bigfoots. We don't even need a live bigfoot. There's no way a creature that size could go this long without lots of specimens turning up, dead or alive. Can any government "scientific" expeditions do a better job exploring the woods than the American Hunter?? Since the first white men hit the shores of America not one hunter/farmer has ever bagged one, and that's many generations of hunting, along with a Civil War that had men crashing through the countryside and a Depression that had desperate men shooting anything they could eat. That's enough proof for me that they don't exist.
#18. To: Pinguinite (#17)
You are assuming they don't bury or otherwise dispose of their dead. We know Neanderthals buried their dead. Just saying that you can't draw conclusions on speculative data. And the hair should speak for itself... If DNA evidence is good enough to hang or free a man then it should be good enough to confirm the hair belongs to a known animal or an unknown animal. In this case it was an unknown.... from a presumed bigfoot hair. I'm inclined to say it's proly bigfoot. I'm with you here. If they existed, we'd have at least found dead bigfoots. We don't even need a live bigfoot. There's no way a creature that size could go this long without lots of specimens turning up, dead or alive.
_______________________________________________________________________________ The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself,Take Action!!!
#19. To: farmfriend (#0)
Sasquatch Bush goes for walk in park with mama Bush. Sasquatch has been around for a long-long time. 
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#20. To: titorite (#18)
That is is one assumption I'm making, yes. But we people do bury our dead and still a lot of people die without getting buried. To think that this bigfoot is more thorough than people are is a stretch. I know that new species of bacteria and insects are routinely discovered. On rare occasions they find new species of frog or other small reptile. This chupacobra dog thing that was recently discovered is a bit of an enigma but there's little doubt it exists as they already have a body of it. But in all the time bigfoot has been rumored to exist, no bodies at all? Only photos? Doesn't pass the smell test. It's more easy to believe it never has existed, that photos/movies of it are faked, and any who honestly think they saw it actually saw something else, a bear or such. It's the easier/simpler explanation. You are assuming they don't bury or otherwise dispose of their dead.
#21. To: noone222 (#19)
LMAO
Does anyone honestly believe that the global elites whose wealth and power depend on manipulation of the global chess board would leave something like the Presidency up to chance?
#22. To: X-15, farmfriend, Armadillo, Obnoxicated, titorite, Pinguinite, noone222 (#11)
I share your skepticism. Most carefully examining the evidence and assumptions that lie behind a proposition is a very healthy habit of mind. Sharp-eyed skepticism is especially warranted in the world we live in where all kinds of claptrap is routinely thrown at us like we were all a tribe of credulous kids. Before this thread bites the dust though, I'd like to toss in this video and recommend it to you in partial answer to your questions. It suggests there's more to the history of this continent than we've been taught to believe and it adds more evidence to a growing pile of research that challenges our assumptions about the bipedals that have walked this earth. There's a bit of a global warming rant at the end that I found kind of annoying, but that's neither here nor there with respect to the evidence Jim Vieira presents in this short video. Anyway, ff to 8:30 if you like and see what Vieira has to say about North American "giants." Where are the carcasses?? Where are the Injun skins of bigfoot?? Where is any proof that they exist??
#23. To: randge (#22)
Interesting that you posted that. I saw it linked on another forum and watched this morning. It was very good though he seemed to be a global warming supporter and a few other things. He was very careful to remain on the politically correct side of things.
Does anyone honestly believe that the global elites whose wealth and power depend on manipulation of the global chess board would leave something like the Presidency up to chance?
#24. To: farmfriend (#23)
We all have our political persuasions. That's neither here nor there when we present evidence or expertise on an unrelated topic. Would you let a brain surgeon work on you if he was a top flight guy and you needed his help & you found out that he was a Democrat? Vieira says some real interesting thing about giants in North America. I found the documents he presented and the pictorial evidence disarming to say the least.
#25. To: farmfriend, X-15, Armadillo (#8)
More prosaically the descriptions of Bigfoot that come out over and over again appear to resemble Gigantopithecus or some other similar type of "Man-Ape". This of course upsets the Fundamentalist Darwinists as it throws off their timelines and pet theories and the Gospel of His Magnificence St. Darwin. So, of course anything which might provide a contrary datum, such as the parallel existence of a creature presumed to be a human progenitor, is heresy and must be declaimed and punished (preferably by burning at the stake). The show Ancient Aliens did an episode on Bigfoot. They were speculating that they are either an alien created hybrid or aliens themselves. They also suggested they might be inter dimensional beings.
#26. To: randge, Original_Intent (#22) (Edited)
Oddly enough, I find it easier to believe in the possible existence of "giants" roaming around the N. American continent in the past than I do the existence of furry-bipedal-whatevers today. I believe Original_Intent posted some previous articles that detailed western Indians with an oral history of fighting them and possible obfuscation of their existence by mainstream scientists. Undiscovered critters at the bottom of the sea? Sure, it's still happening. But not on the continent today, there's just too much human activity for them to hide. Even assuming that they existed, bears and mountain lions would have dug up their bodies and something of their existence would have already been discovered, much as the existence of mountain lions leaves behind scientific clues with sightings being rare (except for mountain lion hunters)((P.S., why haven't packs of hunting dogs out West ever cornered one??)) I would have to assume that such a creature is fully capable of being injured running around the woods on occasion, nobody has ever found one lying in the shade saying "Hey, man, I busted my leg, can you spare a cigarrette and call an air- evac for me??" :)
-Alex Kurtagic
#27. To: farmfriend (#7)
that's about where I'm at. The simple use of the word "myth" is a presumption against. That also is not supported by the available evidence. Yes the evidence is less than iron clad, but there have simply been too many sightings by credible people who were not kooks and were not even looking for bigfoot. There is something there. Now the number and distribution is likely small numbers over a vast area and mostly in remote regions of the west. As for the strawman of "where's the carcass" it is answered by pointing out that carcasses of any animal are rare in the wild. Predators, scavengers, bacteria, and small animals quickly dispose of any such. Further if Bigfoot practices the human practice of burial of the dead that makes it even more problematic. I find that most scoffers have either not dug into the evidence available or have a common attitude of "my mind is made up". Skepticism is always in order but retaining a closed mind in the face of even good circumstantial evidence and first hand sightings is simply close minded. I don't pretend to know what bigfoot is for sure but I am convinced that there is something there. I'm not about to buy into a myth without conclusive proof.
#28. To: X-15, randge (#26)
I have no problem with either and there is evidence which tends to suggest that both may be true.
#29. To: Original_Intent (#25)
I have no such inhibitions, I merely see a total lack of documentable physical evidence as the strongest evidence against their existence. Example - people were gathering bison skulls and bones off the prairies where they roamed years after they were nearly exterminated. I contend that *something* would have turned up by now, whether via Injuns or White Man being in the outdoors. This of course upsets the Fundamentalist Darwinists as it throws off their timelines and pet theories and the Gospel of His Magnificence St. Darwin. So, of course anything which might provide a contrary datum, such as the parallel existence of a creature presumed to be a human progenitor, is heresy
-Alex Kurtagic
#30. To: X-15 (#29) (Edited)
I have no such inhibitions, I merely see a total lack of documentable physical evidence as the strongest evidence against their existence. Example - people were gathering bison skulls and bones off the prairies where they roamed years after they were nearly exterminated. I contend that *something* would have turned up by now, whether via Injuns or White Man being in the outdoors. For me it comes down to the first hand reports (as well as my own sighting). In the case of the Bison Skulls there were literally hundreds of thousands of Bison that were exterminated to deprive the Plains Tribes of their primary food supply and so I am not surprised that some hung around for a while as there were so many. In the case of a carcass in the woods a better example would be Moose, Elk, or even Bears. You just do not run across their carcasses except in the rare circumstance where is very fresh, and again that is extremely rare. A carcass in the woods is generally unrecognizable as such in as little as a week and completely gone in under a month. In the case of Bigfoot the numbers appear to be very small isolated populations and so the likelihood of finding a carcass is vanishingly small - particularly if they practice burial. Additionally the woods is their home, they appear to be of near human intelligence , and they appear to know how to move quietly in the woods. (I know woodsmen who if they do not want to be seen you will not see them.) They are also likely nocturnal and so are active when we are not. However, over the years there has developed a fair body of first hand reports from reliable witnesses. So, I do not rule out their existence. I agree that the data is not iron clad conclusive, but I do think it good enough to accept the existence of Bigfoot as a valid hypothesis. This of course upsets the Fundamentalist Darwinists as it throws off their timelines and pet theories and the Gospel of His Magnificence St. Darwin. So, of course anything which might provide a contrary datum, such as the parallel existence of a creature presumed to be a human progenitor, is heresy
#31. To: randge (#24)
yes I found it fascinating really. I also find it interesting that this information is being hidden and like Kenowick man they are standing on Native American repatriation to do it. Vieira says some real interesting thing about giants in North America. I found the documents he presented and the pictorial evidence disarming to say the least.
Does anyone honestly believe that the global elites whose wealth and power depend on manipulation of the global chess board would leave something like the Presidency up to chance?
#32. To: randge (#22)
Haven't watched the full clip at this late hour, but there is a way to mechanically move extremely large/heavy rocks with very minimal help. In fact, one relatively small guy single handedly constructed what is now called coral castle. (.com). He somehow mined coral from somewhere nearby in enormous chucks, and brought them to his site where he erected them. He weighed just over 100 lbs and was abuut 5 feet tall. I think "necessity is the mother of invention" is applicable here. Today we got heavy machinery to do this kind of work, but if a race of people doesn't have that, they'll devise a way to move such blocks of stone. It would explain the pyramids, Easter Island, Stonehenge and a number of others ancient mystery sites without having to have any giants or space aliens helping. Doesn't mean there was no extraordinary giants around way back when, A few today say they have figured out how to do it also.
#33. To: Pinguinite, X-15, farmfriend, Armadillo, Obnoxicated, titorite, noone222 (#32)
Even more remarkable than what builders were able to build in ancient days, in many ways, are the bones that they left behind. That's why I suggested that readers fast forward to 8:30 in the Vieira video to see the published written and photographic evidence of North American giants. It's impressive in the number of attested disinterments of these individuals and in the character of the reports. These are primarily stories in local news journals of public exhumations of large skeletons attended by local notables. In other words, these exhumations were done in the open and were attdended by many witnesses. One or two reports could be discounted as oddities, but the number of the published reports that Jim Vieira has collected adds up to create a larger picture and raises interesting questions. These reports are different in character than the reports that we get on "Bigfoot," which are more anecdotal than the "giant" stories, are less well attested and have less substance to them. Clearly, there's a hidden history here of human subtypes that created the civilizations on whose shoulders we stand. I have spent a bit of time looking at the conehead found in South America in great numbers and across other continents as well, as they show that there was a great variety of human types in existence in near-historical times. The coneheads are really remarkable in that they possess an anatomy quite distinct from any higher primate types - including those of human beings. Human skulls have a frontal plate separated from two parietal plates by a coronal suture. In other words, the dome of our skulls consists of three plates. This is true of all the higher primates (and the lower ones as well). Coneheads have only two plates. One in front and one to the rear. These skulls are also unique in that there are two occipital foramina (holes) in the rear, which human skull do not exhibit at all. Conehead skulls exhibit come other anomalies as well, in the structure of the temporal bones, dentition, and the size of the eye sockets. While she was on a visit at our place a short while ago, I took the opportunity to show my sister some of the videos made by Brien Foerster at the Paracas museum featuring its collection of SA conehead skulls. She taught human anatomy for quite a while at a university, and you could class her as an expert. She's not an anatomist but a neurologist. Nevertheless she damned well knows her bones and sutures and foramina and so forth. She found what seh saw there breathtaking. We spent quite a bit of time looking at human and ape skulls tring to find anything similar to the conehead specimens, and had to conlude that they are quite unlike anything else that walked on two legs. Anyhow, here's Brien Foerster describing conehead skulls. They're not fossils, and they contain enough organic material to make DNA analysis possible. Foerster is collecting funds for a full-scale DNA workup on tissue samples. It's certain that the history of human kind is not consistent with what's been dished up to us in school.
#34. To: randge, Pinguinite, X-15, farmfriend, Armadillo, Obnoxicated, titorite, noone222 (#33)
That's a fact Jack. If a datum or piece of evidence does not fit the official mainstream chronlolgy instead of revising the theory to accomodate all of the evidence the evidence is derided and discarded. Nothing must be allowed to throw St. Darwin into question it is heretical and not to be tolerated. It's certain that the history of human kind is not consistent with what's been dished up to us in school.
#35. To: randge (#33) (Edited)
Brien Foerster has been a forum poster at Graham Hancocks site for several years.
We have threads on Giants going back many years...can access these via search on Mysteries forum.
The most compelling argument I have found over years of research is the findings of Arthur Posnansky who spent decades in the Andes region.
David Flynn discovered via google earth...removed grids of terrains....even rock,...some are matched to scale with a 747...and are bigger than 3 747's in scale.
These terrains/grid patterns go up and over hills,mountains...valleys...for hundreds of sq miles.
Here's the kicker....this was done in the Pleistocene era
Posnansky found the skeletons of giants....with the 3x elongated skulls....burried in flood detritus to a depth of 6ft....ontop of these ancient terrain grids around Tiwanaku.
below the flood detritus ...was discovered various evidence the region was annihilated in some great conflaguration of fire....then the flood....and then the skeletons.
Posnansky dated these to 13,000 bp....and suggested they could go as far back as 30,000.
Inca legends/mythology claim that giants built some of the ancient fortress's
and were a race.....yet before them...another race....suggesting they were not human.
Bellamy and Horbiger suggested a falling satellite moon/moons caused the conflaguration in the Andes.
This is said via myth to have occured just prior to our Moon [Luna's].....capture.
Its possible Luna's capture pushed the smaller satellite moons into break up near earth via the Roche limit theory.
There is mythology of a time before the Moon....Velikovsky lists out the cultures with refs...even the Greeks have legacy mythology.
Mainstream science says our solar system has been the way we see it for umpteen millions of years.
Electric Universe and Saturn theory suggest our solar system has been in orbital divergence,chaos..and recent captures....as per Venus and the Moon.
This chaos would afford the reason why several extinction periods occured....and could include impactors.....but also leans towards phasic change in Earths Alpha,Beta,Delta,Theta EM wave cycle....which the planet....and all living things...cycle each say.
dramatically alter the frequency and amplitude....you can crash DNA...even though it is write protect to this planet....DNA can only hold up under so much.
There's a reason why the ancient races of beings which were not human...the giant races.....why they clocked out.
#36. To: Original_Intent.farmfriend (#27)
That is certainly true.As for the strawman of "where's the carcass" it is answered by pointing out that carcasses of any animal are rare in the wild.
As an avid hiker I have rarely found any animal carcase in the forest. Even common animals with a high-population (like armadillos or raccoons) are rarely found.
Nature is a remarkably good at cleaning up after itself.
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#37. To: Parrot with speed dial (#35)
I feel like I've just cracked the lid of a very big box and I'm just able to peer through the crack trying to guess what's inside. Thanks for the steer.
#38. To: Original_Intent, randge, Pinguinite, X-15, Armadillo, Obnoxicated, titorite, noone222 (#34)
don't forget the noble savage American Indian and they were first no matter what etc. That's a fact Jack. If a datum or piece of evidence does not fit the official mainstream chronlolgy instead of revising the theory to accomodate all of the evidence the evidence is derided and discarded. Nothing must be allowed to throw St. Darwin into question it is heretical and not to be tolerated.
Does anyone honestly believe that the global elites whose wealth and power depend on manipulation of the global chess board would leave something like the Presidency up to chance?
#39. To: randge (#37)
There's several candidate theme's which could speak to ancient forms*I feel like I've just cracked the lid of a very big box and I'm just able to peer through the crack trying to guess what's inside.
One is Galactic Panspermia.....that forms exist in the cosmos,...and are seeded.
They take...on worlds where the surrounding environment and phasic wave form...can sustain them.
This could also be a type of program/write protect.
Earths ancient oceans had creatures teeming in them which look Alien like anything Hollyweird can come up with.
We still have them here by the way....they are different now....many are electro/phasic/luminous...hunt by wave form targeting...like radar.
some go luminous and have burster moments...and then dash away....the flash/deceptive luminousity can also be used to paralyze and then kill a prey.
deep ocean...but from time to time.....we detect them and record their activity.
getting back to write/protect programs.
These in more advanced forms....like hominins....can be genetically augmented....if your Engineer capable.
LLoyd Pye has some of the best data on Intervention theory and our human form.
Our 2nd Chromosome block is actually a fused pairing of 2
Higher Primates are 24....and we are 23...the hint is...we are a hybrid augment.
the question now....who else was 23?....we were made 23 to mate with them.
We have over 4000 genetic defects latent in our DNA....so we are not a perfect outcome.
We also via mythology are said to have lived longer life spans....and then this was altered...and we clocked out at 120 years....another intervention/augment?
It makes sense in my thinking that life exists in the cosmos.....the next question....are their advanced races/beings....who engineer/genetically augment life forms?
LLoyd Pye has also discovered that there are animals which are genetic augments...the Cheetah appears to have been cloned.
many Grains have genetic engineering and sudden appearence...almost to the time window....when we ...suddenly appear on the scene.
#40. To: farmfriend (#38) (Edited)
Frank Joseph of -Ancient America Magazine.don't forget the noble savage American Indian and they were first no matter what etc.
During one of his net audio interviews mentioned that America has experienced waves of migration from Asia in its distant past.
Joseph has found evidence of 2 such migration waves which failed....they were Genocided by the peoples already in the land after a time.
and during all this....there were several races of Giants still around while Mr Native America dreamed of Cash Cashheeno : )
Churchward was told and shown ancient texts in Asia which point back to the time of Lemuria/MU....which Joseph opines was a trans pacific/asia culture....which was subducted by techtonic chaos and rising ocean levels.
before this time....the ancient records speak about great wars between the Black Peoples and the Yellow skinned peoples.
so ya....our ancient history has been conflict and genocide...between our forms....and in competition with the giant races.
Cultures did mimic the 3x elongated skull form by head binding,.
yet the Skulls Arthur Posnansky found around Tiwanaku and others near Nazca
these are natural growth....very ancient....13,000 bp and possibly back to 30,000 bp.
they have skeletons of fetus and first 9 months/in the womb....and the babies have the elongated skulls.
also...there are families in the Ohio who dug up their property to build in the 1800's and forward...and found myriads of giant skeletons/graves.
some have reciepts they gave this over to the Gov/Smithsonian....who say they never were given the bones.
rumors there were so many obtained.....they dumped barge loads of them into the Atlantic ocean.
#41. To: Parrot with speed dial (#40)
That wouldn't surprise me. rumors there were so many obtained.....they dumped barge loads of them into the Atlantic ocean.
Does anyone honestly believe that the global elites whose wealth and power depend on manipulation of the global chess board would leave something like the Presidency up to chance?
#42. To: farmfriend (#38)
don't forget the noble savage American Indian and they were first no matter what etc. You mean they weren't? Why even thinking that is Ray-Ciss!! /satire And of course the Olmec Heads found in Central America are not Negroid even though they have distinctively negroid features. It just can't be because those heads are at least a thousand years old. Why that was long before the slave ships./sarc That's a fact Jack. If a datum or piece of evidence does not fit the official mainstream chronlolgy instead of revising the theory to accomodate all of the evidence the evidence is derided and discarded. Nothing must be allowed to throw St. Darwin into question it is heretical and not to be tolerated.
#43. To: farmfriend, Parrot with speed dial (#41)
That wouldn't surprise me. The Smithsonian is notorious for sequestering, hiding, and denying anomalous artifacts and evidences. It just would not do to have the sheeple question their betters. rumors there were so many obtained.....they dumped barge loads of them into the Atlantic ocean.
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