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Title: Good-bye Ubuntu Linux. A good distribution runs aground. Big time.
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Published: Dec 10, 2012
Author: Me
Post Date: 2012-12-10 02:52:34 by Pinguinite
Keywords: Linux, Ubuntu, Fedora Core
Views: 1065
Comments: 48

I started using Ubuntu Linux when Mandriva, my current favored linux distribution, no longer installed on a new computer some 5 years ago. It was great then and I've never hesitated to recommend it for its ease of use and well maintained distribution of Linux.

That changed with their 11.10 release which did away with the KDE desktop and forced everyone to use their new Unity interface apparently designed for use with notepads. Apparently, mouse desktop users are a thing of the past now. But forcing a linux user to use one interface is pretty much anti-linux philosophy. Even so, after the support cycle ended recently for the pre-11.10 versions, I was forced to upgrade into the kindergarden-level environment provided by Unity. I gave it a shot for a couple weeks and decided it was a piece of crap. At least for me. I think now it's designed for use by people who have no knowledge of computers or who are otherwise morons -- something I reluctantly decided, after long consideration, I was not. (No offense to legitimate and honest morons intended).

A saving grace provided after-market style by the linux community was that my favored KDE interface could be installed onto 11.10 and later Ubuntu versions with a software installation, thus allowing me to completely avoid Unity. Perhaps it works for some, and probably does, but it didn't work for me. I log in and 3 seconds later, I'm returned to the linux login screen. The 11.10 included the new Kmail2 program for handling email on my PC. Unfortunately, that didn't work and a net search found many complaints about it's failures and protests about why such a buggy program was included... nay, mandated, in a major Ubuntu release. Maybe Kmail is soon to go the way of the do-do bird, but until then, leave the dang thing alone, please.

Digging to the bottom of the Ubuntu barrel for solutions, I upgraded to 12.04 and the latest (greatest?) 12.10 in an effort to have KDE and Kmail work, but nothing did. So after a long and happy time with Ubuntu, I decided it was time to trash it as a desktop OS.

I've replaced it with Fedora Core, which Linux users will recognize as a long-standing distribution of Linux. Haven't quite figured it all out but the latest "17" release is installed, running KDE and the still working Kmail software (not Kmail2). It appears to be, so far, every bit as slick as Linux should be. Hopefully Fedora Core will continue to fly high well into the future.

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#5. To: Pinguinite (#0) (Edited)

How about this:

sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback

and/or this:

sudo apt-get install kde-standard
sudo apt-get install kde-full

wudidiz  posted on  2012-12-10   9:31:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: wudidiz (#5)

sudo apt-get install kde-full

I did the kde-full, but it just didn't work. The login screen offered it, but when I'd log in selecting KDE, the screen would blark out for a few seconds and then it would return to the login screen. I didn't bother to try to debug it. Don't have time/patience for that.

The Fedora Core install was designed for KDE, so went with that.

On Unity, I searched the net to figure out how to create a launcher -- something you do on KDE by just right-clicking on the desktop, and found a page that gave a console command. And I was like.... WTH? Why would and advanced interface replace a right button click with a console command on something so basic?

Pinguinite  posted on  2012-12-10   9:51:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Pinguinite (#7) (Edited)

After using unity for about a month, I just saw your thread here and tried to change it back.

This worked for me:

sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback

I don't know about kde. I assume you should be able to get it somehow.

Then, coincidentally, before reading your post here, I just tried to right click to create a launcher. Nothing.

So I googled it and you have to drag and drop the application from the list in the top left corner "applications". Works no problem.

I don't blame you if you don't like the new unity interface (edit: it's a real pain in the ass to find stuff... shouldn't have to type or even remember how to spell something... should just have to click, but no it's really annoying... if it wasn't broke why did they fix it?... I suspect they're trying to make it marketable maybe ), but if you want to change it back to what it was, it looks like there are lots of others that do too and some know how to do it simply it seems.

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#11. To: wudidiz (#10)

Well, I'm already past the point of no return. Ubuntu has been overwritten with Fedora Core so it's done. Thanks though. Maybe the info will be good for others.

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