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Title: The Hobbit
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URL Source: http://lewrockwell.com/berwick/berwick74.1.html
Published: Dec 10, 2012
Author: Jeff Berwick
Post Date: 2012-12-10 09:34:13 by Ada
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Views: 239
Comments: 3

I am looking forward to the release of The Hobbit on December 14th. Its author, J.R.R. Tolkien, was essentially an anarchist. He once stated:

“My political opinions lean more and more to Anarchy (philosophically understood, meaning the abolition of control not whiskered men with bombs) – or to ‘unconstitutional’ Monarchy. I would arrest anybody who uses the word State (in any sense other than the inaminate real of England and its inhabitants, a thing that has neither power, rights nor mind); and after a chance of recantation, execute them if they remained obstinate! If we could go back to personal names, it would do a lot of good.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so to refer to people … The most improper job of any many, even saints (who at any rate were at least unwilling to take it on), is bossing other men. Not one in a million is fit for it, and least of all those who seek the opportunity …"

The entire story of the Lord of the Rings centers around the ring of power... otherwise known as the state. The journey begins in a anarchic place where the people are happy, no policemen, no king (or one that was thought long forgotten). There is apparently a mayor but he does nothing as the locals frolick, sing, dance, play with fireworks, drink and smoke pipe weed. Soon, however, the ring wraiths, driven by the lust of power come to ruin it all.

The Hobbit was the first real book I ever read and it drew me into the fantastic world that John Ronald Reuel Tolkien created. That halloween I dressed up as Bilbo Baggins and even used it as my alias on Bulletin Boards (pre-internet communications throughout the 1980s). Soon after, at around 13 years of age I read the Lord of the Rings and was even more amazed. I read the trilogy countless times.

It makes me wonder if it didn't shape some of my views – as I'm sure it did – but it wasn't until decades later that it dawned on me the true message of the ring! I'm sure millions don't catch the allegory either, unfortunately. It's too bad that Tolkien didn't forgo fantasy somewhat and call Mordor, Washington DC. Obama would have made a great Sauron, had he been president when Tolkein was writing. The ring wraiths, Rockefeller, Rothchild and other likes who lust for power over others from behind the scenes.

When I first heard that a new adaption was going to be released in 2001 I was hesitant. I even went so far as to say that it would be impossible to truly adapt that massive anthology on screen. As I sat there in the cinema I realized I was wrong. Peter Jackson had created a genius masterpiece. I can't believe it's been nearly 10 years since the third film has been released... but that might be because I make sure to watch it at least twice a year.

And with baited breath I now await The Hobbit. Although, I do have some reservations. The Hobbit was more of a children's story, contrasted to the dark Lord of the Rings (LOTR)... and The Hobbit, also, was almost like a pamphlet in size compared to the massive LOTR texts. Yet, Peter Jackson is trying to turn it into a film trilogy as well. I don't know how we will do it... but then again, I didn't know how he could do LOTR either and he did. So I give him the benefit of the doubt.

In any case, if you haven't read LOTR or seen the films, they are an absolute must see. I just wish we could bring back JRR Tolkien to see it in all its glory. He's on my top five list of people to bring back from the dead to see what became of their legacy (both bad and good), including Jesus and Thomas Jefferson. I think all three of them would be shocked to see what became of their work! Jesus would be flabergasted to see what the Roman Catholic church has twisted his words around for profit. And Thomas Jefferson would be reaching for his musket in a moment to tear down this terrible tyranic organization that has grown into the world's most dangerous, freedom-destroying, killing machines!

If only Thomas Jefferson had read LOTR he may have understood that no government, no matter how small, can resist the corruptive ability of the ring of power! Not even Frodo.

As Mithrandir said, "I would use this ring from a desire to do good, but through me it would wield a power too great and terrible to imagine."

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#1. To: Ada (#0)

There is apparently a mayor but he does nothing as the locals frolick, sing, dance, play with fireworks, drink and smoke pipe weed.

And some folks think they can improve on a system like that. Imagine!

And yes, I was late watching LOTR, hadn't seen it until sometime in 2009/2010 but I loved it. Wonderful story. I hope The Hobbit will be as good.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

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Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-12-10   9:58:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Ada (#0)

. and The Hobbit, also, was almost like a pamphlet in size compared to the massive LOTR texts.

I read that the movie will incorporate a lot of events around Gandolf that were not in "The Hobbit" book but were written by Tolkien in other of his texts. One of the reasons why it's going to be a trilogy.

Pinguinite  posted on  2012-12-10   10:05:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Ada (#0)

Posted this at LP a few months ago. From another website I sometimes go to.

Three movies, am going to copy and paste a fantastic post about this. Am unsure of origin of this, but worth reading, here goes.....

1 - 09-24-2012, 10:24 AM

Everything Peter Jackson added to The Hobbit — with PROOF!

Potentially very spoilerish, but it sounds amazing

Quote: Now that it has been officially confirmed that Peter Jackson will be making a trilogy out of The Hobbit, everyone is asking one basic question. How is that possible? The Hobbit just isn't as big as Lord of the Rings. But Jackson has sworn up and down that there's plenty of material in the book's appendices that allowed him to expand Middle Earth. So what material is Jackson talking about specifically, and where does that fit in with The Hobbit? We picked through the appendices, Jackson's interviews, and the recent trailer to show you exactly what we think will end up on the big screen. More Gandalf and friends (The White Council)

Gandalf the Grey is not in The Hobbit very much. In fact sometimes the wizard just vanishes only show up later yelling orders for no discernable reason. But in this trilogy, Jackson has promised that Gandalf isn't going anywhere. In an interview with IGN Jackson reveals the first big addition to the original material from Tolkien's appendices, "In The Hobbit novel Gandalf disappears for long periods of time, you never know where. But in the appendices Tolkien explains exactly what he was doing and where he was going. So we're able to incorporate all of that together." Boom! So where is he? Meeting up with the most powerful people in Middle Earth (the White Council) and helping to reveal the true face of the nefarious necromancer character, AKA Sauron. After beating up Thorin Oakenshield's dad and then telling the awesome elf Elrond (you remember him from LOTR — Agent Smith with a crown) about his experiences at Rivendell, Gandalf calls on the White Council to get to the bottom of these recent dark deeds.

This White Council is made up of Elrond, Galadriel, Saruman and a ton of other excellent Tolkien characters. We've already seen Galadriel in the trailer, so we know she's coming back. And Christopher Lee has already been confirmed to be returning to his role as Saruman. So buckle up for some excellent bickering between Lee and Sir Ian McKellen. Of course eventually Gandalf convinces the council to invade the Necromancer's fortress at Dol Guldur. Which leads to...

The Battle of Dol Guldur

In his statement on Facebook confirming the trilogy Jackson singles out The Battle of Dol Guldur as something he couldn't capture without breaking the book into three parts. This is the battle where Galadriel kicks a lot of ass. They fight orcs who ride werewolves and giant spiders, so yeah, awesome. But Galadriel just rips down the walls. It's impressive, and helps explain why everyone is so petrified of her awesome power in LOTR.

Full size Legolas' Backstory

We've SEEN Legolas shooting arrows in the behind-the-scenes video diaries, and it's rumored that The Hobbit will be fleshing out a bit of this character's backstory. How so? By bringing in his dad! King Thranduil appears in The Hobbit and the Mirkwood elves are a big part of the journey to Lonely Mountain (they kidnap the dwarves and combine forces in the Battle of Five Armies). It's a fairly safe bet that whatever happens to Legolas during the final battle will only motivate his character's allegiance to the Fellowship of the Ring in the future. Don't forget Gimli's father, Glóin, is also on this expedition, and there better be a joke there at some point.

Gandalf Vs. Thrain

It's no secret Jackson loves a flashback-centric prologue (the birth of Gollum continues to haunt us). So why not use a flashback from an appendix to pad out the story and strengthen the relationship between the journey to Lonely Mountain and the epic battle of Dol Guldur? The keen eye of Dizastrus revealed this image from The Hobbit of what could be Thrain (father to Thorin Oakenshield) and Gandalf fighting. One is clearly Gandalf, and the other is too short to be a human, and has the mark of a prosthetic forehead. This could be the scene where Gandalf discovers King Tharin, driven mad by Sauron and forced to hand over the dwarf ring of power (something the audience learned in LOTR). This is also how Gandalf gets the map and key to the Lonely Mountain where Bilbo and the Dwarves of Erebor eventually end their journey. It ties the two stories of Dol Guldur and the Battle of Five Armies together. Also it demonstrates the dark matters at work and excuses Gandalf from the primary mission of Lonely Mountain, because Sauron's back... bitches. Even if Gandalf wasn't aware that the Necromancer and Sauron are connected, the outlandish actions of the Dwarf King and a dark stranger's interest in the rings should lead to the eventual alert of the White Council.

The Story of Smaug and his Gold Belly

We have no proof that this will happen (sorry), but wouldn't it be rad if it did? We can't imagine Jackson will show the dragon face of Smaug until (at the latest) a cliff hanger ending of the second film. And once he's been introduced, doesn't this greedy dragon deserve a bit of backstory? Hell yes he does.

New Characters

On top of all the actual Tolkien appendices and notes, Jackson added new characters into the mix. Evangeline Lily (Lost) is playing Tauriel, a Mirkwood elf, who has some sort of romantic ties to Kili (played by Aidan Turner, the vampire from BBC's Being Human). As we stated before, Mirkwood elves appear twice in this story, even though Tauriel doesn't appear in the original Tolkien. It's already confirmed that Kili will be pursuing Tauriel... but on the battle field, in the woods, inside a barrel? That's another large Mirkwood plotline that doesn't appear in the books.

General Dwarf Fleshing Out

Did you spy the remnants of a spider attack in The Hobbit trailer? If that reveal means the giant spiders will be in the first movie, the majority of the first flick will be an on the road epic with a gaggle of dwarves and Bilbo. We need more personal dialogue and action to flesh out each character, so you care if Bofur is almost sliced open by a Goblin. Oakenshield's ego can't hog the spotlight the whole time, so you can bet that there will be plenty of silly little drunk dwarf moments that will flesh out the gang. Richard Armitage even promised a bunch more dwarf drinking songs!

Big Beautiful Battles

The Battle of Five Armies is not fleshed out in the books — in fact, Bilbo spends most of it unconscious. That won't stand for Jackson. He's got to top Helm's Deep. But then again, this is a battle with five armies. Plus this is the unification of the races: it's the first time that the humans, dwarves and elves stop squabbling over money and join together to fight evil. It's a massive moment both for the characters and just with the sheer size of it. There's no way this doesn't last for at least an hour. That's a lot of fleshing out and additional writing Jackson is going to have to dream up.

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Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2012-12-10   19:08:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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