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Title: Zero Dark Thirty: new torture-glorifying film wins raves
Source: guardian.co.uk, Monday 10 December 2012 08.40 EST
URL Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentis ... ero-dark-thirty-torture-awards
Published: Dec 14, 2012
Author: Glenn Greenwald
Post Date: 2012-12-14 08:25:10 by Ada
Keywords: None
Views: 597
Comments: 6

Can a movie that relies on fabrications to generate support for war crimes still be considered great?

Earlier this year, the film "Zero Dark Thirty", which purports to dramatize the hunt for and killing of Osama bin Laden, generated substantial political controversy. It was discovered that CIA and White House officials had met with its filmmakers and passed non-public information to them - at exactly the same time that DOJ officials were in federal court resisting transparency requests from media outlets and activist groups on the ground that it was all classified.

With its release imminent, the film is now garnering a pile of top awards and virtually uniform rave reviews. What makes this so remarkable is that, by most accounts, the film glorifies torture by claiming - falsely - that waterboarding and other forms of coercive interrogation tactics were crucial, even indispensable in finding bin Laden.

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#1. To: Ada (#0)

What makes this so remarkable is that, by most accounts, the film glorifies torture by claiming - falsely - that waterboarding and other forms of coercive interrogation tactics were crucial, even indispensable in finding bin Laden.

What a load of crap! Pure, unadulterated bull$#it! How could they "find" a man who had been dead a decade before they started yammering about killing him?

Osama Bin Laden Has Been Dead For Years

Osama bin Laden: A dead nemesis perpetuated by the US government

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

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James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-12-14   8:45:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: James Deffenbach (#1)

How could they "find" a man who had been dead a decade before they started yammering about killing him?

They put Max Headroom on the case. What could be better - a fictional character pursuing a dead target.

The funny thing is that they didn't even have a good script for this bollocks. AND a new report was just released which points out that torture doesn't work.

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"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-12-14   11:03:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Original_Intent (#2)

It's a sorry old world, ain't it? Even little kids know that anyone will tell you whatever it is they think you want to hear if you are torturing them and that you will stop if they just tell you some bs. It is a rare man or woman who can endure a substantial amount of torture without spilling his or her guts even if they really don't know anything.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-12-14   12:21:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: James Deffenbach (#1)

Balderdash!!!!!!!111 Obama used his community organizing skills and superior intellect to mystically divine the compound that was hiding the dastardly Osama Bin Laden!!! Your attitude has been noticed, comrade......

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“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2012-12-14   12:50:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Ada (#0)

the hunt for and killing of Osama bin Laden

I did hear The Brothers Grimm had a new story out.

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2012-12-14   14:25:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: X-15 (#4)

Balderdash!!!!!!!111 Obama used his community organizing skills and superior intellect to mystically divine the compound that was hiding the dastardly Osama Bin Laden!!! Your attitude has been noticed, comrade......

Perhaps after I am "re-educated" I vill be a better sssssitizen!

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-12-14   14:27:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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