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Title: up to 27 dead' 18 children in Conn. school shooting BREAKING
Source: ews
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Published: Dec 14, 2012
Author: ap
Post Date: 2012-12-14 13:21:33 by tom007
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Views: 11579
Comments: 173

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#11. To: tom007 (#0)

Just remember the Republican mantra: "This is not the time to talk about gun laws."

Repeat it over and over. And then repeat it to each of 27 families in Connecticut. Let us know if they agree with you.

Shoonra  posted on  2012-12-14   13:54:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Shoonra (#11)

Just remember the Republican mantra: "This is not the time to talk about gun laws."

Repeat it over and over. And then repeat it to each of 27 families in Connecticut. Let us know if they agree with you.

Would you feel better if hundreds were killed by some maniac mixing bleach and ammonia in a city park water fountain?

Who am I kidding, of course you would. Then you would be agitating to ban parks everywhere that people least likely to do so live.

Dakmar  posted on  2012-12-14   15:10:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Dakmar, Shoonra (#24)

Perhaps Shoonra would prefer Molotov Cocktails, who knows. There are MANY ways for a true nut to kill MANY people, from setting them on fire with gasoline, to running them over with their cars.

I can safely assume that this guy was on some sort of psychiatric meds, as pretty much ALL of the other mass shooters were on.

What needs to be examined and perhaps banned outright are these volatile prescription drugs which drive people insane.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-12-14   15:14:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: FormerLurker (#28)

I can safely assume that this guy was on some sort of psychiatric meds, as pretty much ALL of the other mass shooters were on.

Agreed, which also implies they were under the control of a medical/psychiatric "professional", licensed and trained in the the care of individuals who may someday pose a threat to civil society. Sublimely ridiculous yet tragic at the same time.

Dakmar  posted on  2012-12-14   15:21:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Dakmar (#32)

Agreed, which also implies they were under the control of a medical/psychiatric "professional", licensed and trained in the the care of individuals who may someday pose a threat to civil society.

The so-called "professional" and the drug manufacturer should be held liable for "adverse reactions" to any drugs prescribed to the patient if it results in homicide, where those drugs can be linked to other homicides in the past.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-12-14   15:28:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: FormerLurker (#35)

The so-called "professional" and the drug manufacturer should be held liable for "adverse reactions" to any drugs prescribed to the patient if it results in homicide, where those drugs can be linked to other homicides in the past.

Absolutely, provided it wasn't a one in ten million occurrence. It's the willful negligence/profiteering that bothers me. I'm sure you agree, I just wanted to add that caveat to better define this position.

Dakmar  posted on  2012-12-14   15:35:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Dakmar (#37)

Absolutely, provided it wasn't a one in ten million occurrence. It's the willful negligence/profiteering that bothers me.

I'd wager that this guy was either on Prozac, Paxil, or some other type of SSRI. It's that family of drugs which are typicaly found to be tied to mass murders in recent times. Even Ritalin has been seen to trigger these outbursts.

Another School Shooting, Another Psychiatric Drug? Federal Investigation Long Overdue

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-12-14   16:56:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: FormerLurker (#62)

I'd wager that this guy was either on Prozac, Paxil, or some other type of SSRI. It's that family of drugs which are typicaly found to be tied to mass murders in recent times. Even Ritalin has been seen to trigger these outbursts.

Just for fun, I give you one Lee Harvey Oswald, MK Ultra, and buyers of millions of American Motors products beginning with the Pacer. Much of this predates discovery of Seratonin.

Dakmar  posted on  2012-12-14   17:05:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Dakmar (#72)

Just for fun, I give you one Lee Harvey Oswald

Oh c'mon Dak, you don't seriously believe in the lone gunman and the magic bullet tales do you?

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-12-14   17:12:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: FormerLurker (#79)

Oh c'mon Dak, you don't seriously believe in the lone gunman and the magic bullet tales do you?

I believe he was presented to the American public as a demon to heap scorn upon.

Dakmar  posted on  2012-12-14   17:17:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Dakmar (#85)

I believe he was presented to the American public as a demon to heap scorn upon.

Well yeah, of course. Thing is, they're getting ready to heap a whole lot of scorn upon guns and their owners, totally ignoring the fact that psychiatric meds oftentimes leads to homicide, suicide, and other such behavior.

Did you take a peek at that link I posted containing a list of over 4800 documented cases related to SSRIs and other psychiatric drugs?

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-12-14   17:20:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: FormerLurker (#88)

...a list of over 4800 documented cases related to SSRIs and other psychiatric drugs...

At least it's not like a lot of them then, eh?

Esso  posted on  2012-12-14   17:36:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Esso (#100)

At least it's not like a lot of them then, eh?

WAY too many to be coincidence, that's for sure.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-12-14   17:40:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: FormerLurker, Dakmar, Original_Intent, Lod, Turtle, Jethro Tull (#105)

Newtown school shooting story already being changed by the media to eliminate eyewitness reports of a second shooter

Eyewitness reports of a second shooter now being "scrubbed" from the news

As the story of this shooting was first breaking, the news was reporting a second gunman.

FoxNews reported that this second gunman was "led out of the woods by officers" and then questioned. The original source of this report was the Connecticut Post.

A local CBS affiliate was also reporting the existence of a second gunman and said "Police believe there may be a second gunman and are looking for a red or maroon van with its back window blown out..."

ABC News also originally reported, "A second gunman is apparently at large. Car-to-car searches are underway."

A local CT CBS affiliate was also reporting, "CBS News reports that a potential second shooter is in custody and that SWAT is now investigating the home of the suspect. A witness tells WFSB-TV that a second man was taken out of the woods in handcuffs wearing a black jacket and camouflage pants and telling parents on the scene, 'I did not do it.'"

But the more recent stories being put out by the media are scrubbing any mention of a second gunman and going with the "lone gunman" explanation, which holds about as much water as the "lone gunman" explanation of the JFK assassination.

"A lone gunman killed 27 people at an elementary school here, including 18 children, in a terrifying early Friday morning shooting spree," reports USA Today. It makes no mention whatsoever of a second gunman.

NBC News is also now chiming in with the "lone gunman" version of the story, eliminating any mention of a second gunman from its coverage of the tragic event.

Another story authored by NBC News carries the title, "26 dead after lone gunman assaults Connecticut elementary school." Once again, no mention of a second gunman as reported by eyewitnesses.

Bill D Berger  posted on  2012-12-14   18:12:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: Bill D Berger (#116)

Eyewitness reports of a second shooter now being "scrubbed" from the news

Gee, that wouldn't be a conspiracy now, would it?

Never would've seen THAT coming.

Esso  posted on  2012-12-14   18:17:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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