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Title: up to 27 dead' 18 children in Conn. school shooting BREAKING
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Published: Dec 14, 2012
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Post Date: 2012-12-14 13:21:33 by tom007
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#65. To: tom007 (#6)

Evil indeed. Given recent history , one wonders which pharmacuitical will be involved.

That was pretty close to my thoughts. You can count on it being buried but at some point someone will report that:

A. He was under Psychiatric care.

AND

B. That he was under "Psychiatric medication" i.e., some form of anti-depressant SSRI.

Of course the lamestream Nooze Ghouls have gotten tricky about hiding it or slipping it in just in passing,. After all Big Pharma pays a lot of money for advertising.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-12-14   16:59:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Lod (#55)

Phase One would have thwarted the underwear bomber all right.

Wow, I never thought of that Loddy. Ban underwear, there will be no more underwear bombers.

Now, what can we do about all those haters that own screwdrivers? Get them off the shelves, first, I think, that will create a sense of peace ond love. On 6the other hand, I had to smack a dude with with a crescent wrench once time as I was trying to escape a likely robbery. Will we need to outlaw crescent wrenches too? This may get hairy...

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2012-12-14   17:00:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Original_Intent, Dakmar, tom007, All (#65)

That he was under "Psychiatric medication" i.e., some form of anti-depressant SSRI.

SSRI Stories Antidepressant Nightmares


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-12-14   17:02:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Bill D Berger, Turtle (#54)

I don't believe in pathetic non-existent conspiracies about Manchurian candidates,

That's because you are a fugging sheep who lacks the capability for independent thought, and is only happy being spoon-fed the news by the mainstream media.

Oh, and you're a self-centered egotistical prick.

Aw c'mon Bill doncha' think you're being a little hard on poor Turdle. He can take his disinformation in big hearty gulps.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-12-14   17:02:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: All (#64) (Edited)

this is the last chance to repair the world before the oil runs out, so it's time for desperate measures.

the only question, is: how much of the world do we have to wreck before we start repairing it?

it plain to see that might makes right, as we descend back to the law of the jungle... so, if that guy was mighty enough to kill his mother and a couple dozen kids, he was entitled to do so.

if you got to kill a few dozen kids to facilitate the operation, so be it... we got to take the guns away from the common citizens... lord knows what kind of uppity ideas they might get.

nope, we gotta take their guns, and sell guns only to approved factions who will then be pitted against each other so we can justify the military occupation of america.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2012-12-14   17:03:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Jethro Tull (#34)

President Obama's statement on Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting

Barry & Moochelle are hugging their kids tonight. If they had a lick of sense, they'd be cleaning their guns too.

He must be taking crying lessons from Glen Beck and John Boehner.



"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

hondo68  posted on  2012-12-14   17:03:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Original_Intent (#65)

Of course the lamestream Nooze Ghouls have gotten tricky about hiding it or slipping it in just in passing,. After all Big Pharma pays a lot of money for advertising.

Ain't it so. Further hilarity would ensue if his "handler" was interviewed and allowed to exclaim "If only Obamacare had been in place, I could have had him on more expensive 'life-saving' medications to prevent this tragedy!"

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2012-12-14   17:03:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: FormerLurker (#62)

I'd wager that this guy was either on Prozac, Paxil, or some other type of SSRI. It's that family of drugs which are typicaly found to be tied to mass murders in recent times. Even Ritalin has been seen to trigger these outbursts.

Just for fun, I give you one Lee Harvey Oswald, MK Ultra, and buyers of millions of American Motors products beginning with the Pacer. Much of this predates discovery of Seratonin.

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2012-12-14   17:05:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Turtle (#60)

No, I'm smart and can see the truth.

Too funny dude!

Get over yourself already.

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During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

Bill D Berger  posted on  2012-12-14   17:05:24 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Turtle (#59)

And I do strongly suspect he was a pedophile.

CT FREAK!!!

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

Bill D Berger  posted on  2012-12-14   17:06:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: FormerLurker (#67)

Thank you for the link. Good reference data well compiled.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-12-14   17:07:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: X-15 (#71)

Of course the lamestream Nooze Ghouls have gotten tricky about hiding it or slipping it in just in passing,. After all Big Pharma pays a lot of money for advertising.

Ain't it so. Further hilarity would ensue if his "handler" was interviewed and allowed to exclaim "If only Obamacare had been in place, I could have had him on more expensive 'life-saving' medications to prevent this tragedy!"

That is tooooooooooooo sick because it is true.

Of course it sure is an odd "conincidence" that we have had two shootings close together just as the Obamapuppet is pushing a new gun control bill. Pure coincidence - of course. Really. Honest injun. For realio trulio. You betcha. Uh huh.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-12-14   17:10:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: hondo68, weepy, sobby, talking anuses (#70)

These two crying bags of shit are the ones empowered to walk us back off the fiscal cliff.....we're so very fucked.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-12-14   17:10:07 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: lead.and.lag (#69)

this is the last chance to repair the world before the oil runs out

A. The oil isn't running out. They're having to cap and hide wells because it is so abundant.

B. That is also the reason that any of the real alternatives have been bought up, suppressed, and if need be the inventor murdered.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-12-14   17:12:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Dakmar (#72)

Just for fun, I give you one Lee Harvey Oswald

Oh c'mon Dak, you don't seriously believe in the lone gunman and the magic bullet tales do you?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-12-14   17:12:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Original_Intent (#75)

YW OI.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-12-14   17:13:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: All (#69) (Edited)

what it boils down to is this: the yin/yang balance is out of whack, the shrinks and drugs and social engineering are trying to convince us we're all nuts.

we're not nuts, the system is nuts, governed as it is by looters and racial supremacists who are unable to admit that their dismal system is a failure.

it's no wonder somebody goes off the deep end once in a while, but it's probably normal in times of great change, and the technology is making it worse.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2012-12-14   17:14:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Original_Intent (#76)

Of course it sure is an odd "conincidence" that we have had two shootings close together just as the Obamapuppet is pushing a new gun control bill. Pure coincidence - of course. Really. Honest injun. For realio trulio. You betcha. Uh huh.

Whites done gone crazy seeing a black president! Shoot them, damnit, shoot them all!

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2012-12-14   17:14:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Dakmar (#82)

Of course it sure is an odd "conincidence" that we have had two shootings close together just as the Obamapuppet is pushing a new gun control bill. Pure coincidence - of course. Really. Honest injun. For realio trulio. You betcha. Uh huh.

Whites done gone crazy seeing a black president! Shoot them, damnit, shoot them all!

I think you're on to something Dak.

Or is that on something?

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-12-14   17:15:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Dakmar (#72)

buyers of millions of American Motors products beginning with the Pacer.

Not sure how that ties in with insane behavior leading to murder. Care to explain?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-12-14   17:17:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: FormerLurker (#79)

Oh c'mon Dak, you don't seriously believe in the lone gunman and the magic bullet tales do you?

I believe he was presented to the American public as a demon to heap scorn upon.

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2012-12-14   17:17:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Dakmar (#82)

Whites done gone crazy seeing a black president! Shoot them, damnit, shoot them all!

white people cant shoot blacks... nope, that's a job for mexicans... so we gots to arm the blacks and mexicans.

when they kill enough of each other, then us white folks can intervene for humanitarian reasons.

good deal

lead.and.lag  posted on  2012-12-14   17:17:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Turtle (#22)

I don't believe in pathetic non-existent conspiracies about Manchurian candidates, chips in people's heads, brainwashing and all the rest of the nonsense the government fills fool's heads with

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The CIA Mind Control Projects

A CIA document dated 10 Feb 1954 [4] describes an experiment on the creation of unsuspecting assassins: "Miss [deleted] was then instructed (having expressed a fear of firearms) that she would use every method at her disposal to awaken Miss [deleted] (now in a deep hypnotic sleep) and failing this, she would pick up a pistol and fire it at Miss [deleted]. She was instructed that she would not hesitate to "kill." Miss [deleted] carried out these suggestions including firing the (unloaded) gun at [deleted]. After proper suggestions were made, both were awakened. Miss [deleted] expressed absolute denial that the foregoing sequence had happened." BB 36, 37

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Many of these veterans have sought compensation for the physical and psychological damage they suffered at the hands of Gottlieb and his assistants, but to date the government has balked at honoring their claims.In 2001, President Clinton's Secretary of Defense William Cohen awarded yet another contract to the IOM to locate the Edgewood veterans and other subjects of DoD chemical testing. In a 2003 article published in Military Medicine , the IOM reported that it had conducted a survey of 4,002 Edgewood veterans. But this report focused on subjects of Sarin and other chemical weapon experiments, not specifically on the MK-ULTRA mind control program subjects.

Further confusing the issue was a 2004 Government Accounting Office (GAO) report titled Chemical and Biological Defense: DOD Needs to Continue to Collect and Provide Information on Tests and Potentially Exposed Personnel. The report covered veteran test subjects in a chemical and biological test program known as "Project 112," but also addressed a Department of Defense mandate to investigate all other human test projects conducted since World War II.

The report stated that Army documents identified over seven thousand Army and Air Force personnel who participated in these "other tests" conducted at Edgewood and elsewhere, but didn't specifically break out which of these test veterans were involved in Gottlieb's mind control experiments.

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The purpose of the project was outlined in a memo dated January 1952 that stated, “Can we get control of an individual to the point where he will do our bidding against his will and even against fundamental laws of nature, such as self preservation?”

Project Bluebird researchers experimented with a wide variety of psychoactive substances, including LSD, heroin, marijuana, cocaine, PCP, mescaline, and ether. Thousands of military personal were dosed and experimented upon, and it is believed that many civilians were also used.

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

Bill D Berger  posted on  2012-12-14   17:19:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Dakmar (#85)

I believe he was presented to the American public as a demon to heap scorn upon.

Well yeah, of course. Thing is, they're getting ready to heap a whole lot of scorn upon guns and their owners, totally ignoring the fact that psychiatric meds oftentimes leads to homicide, suicide, and other such behavior.

Did you take a peek at that link I posted containing a list of over 4800 documented cases related to SSRIs and other psychiatric drugs?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-12-14   17:20:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: FormerLurker (#84) (Edited)

Not sure how that ties in with insane behavior leading to murder. Care to explain?

The AMC Pacer, believe it or not, is the vehicle I most associate with abnormal behavior. Almost all the child molesters, dog fuckers, and beer stealing neighbors I ever encountered drove a Pacer at one time or another.

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2012-12-14   17:22:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: FormerLurker (#88) (Edited)

...ignoring the fact that psychiatric meds oftentimes leads to homicide, suicide, and other such behavior.

is this a chicken/egg situation?

which came first, the deterioration of the society or the drugs?

is normal, healthy behavior (disgust at the direction we're heading) being diagnosed as mental illness?

or are people being driven truly nuts by the culture?

lead.and.lag  posted on  2012-12-14   17:22:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Bill D Berger (#87)

I think psychiatric meds are an offshoot of MKULTRA. They KNOW there are a good number of people who will react badly to these drugs, and most likely, at least SOME of them ARE programmed at an early age to do exactly what they end up doing.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-12-14   17:22:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Dakmar (#85)

I believe [Lee Harvey Oswald] was presented to the American public as a demon to heap scorn upon.

Oh, so you're one of them conspiracy theory freaks that Bob the florist hates so much, huh?

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
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Esso  posted on  2012-12-14   17:23:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Dakmar (#89)

Almost all the child molesters, dog fuckers, and beer steeling neighbors I ever encountered drove a Pacer at one time or another.

Okie dokie. But seriously, the drugs truly are the common element in the documented cases I linked. I'd say virtually all of the high profile cases over the past 10 or 15 years have been the result of psychiatric meds.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-12-14   17:25:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Esso (#92)

Bob the florist hates so much, huh?

I don't hate anyone, and I'm not the florist. I run the computer and deliveries. I can make small arraignments, though.

Get your insults straight.

There are actually govt agents who spread conspiracy theories among the gullible to help promote the illusion that the govt is all powerful.

Turtle  posted on  2012-12-14   17:25:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Original_Intent (#83)

I think you're on to something Dak.

Or is that on something?

I'm completely stoned, to be honest. No one should take my posts seriously for the next couple hours. :)

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2012-12-14   17:25:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Esso (#92)

Oh, so you're one of them conspiracy theory freaks that Bob the florist hates so much, huh?

I already burned all my Texas Schoolbook Depository Coloring Books, Christ, what do you people expect of me?

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2012-12-14   17:28:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: FormerLurker (#93)

Okie dokie. But seriously, the drugs truly are the common element in the documented cases I linked.

I tend to agree, but craziness has a thousand bastard fathers.

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2012-12-14   17:30:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: All (#90) (Edited)

i got to say that the whole thing is pretty comical... there's a surge in gun sales, so something happens like this to justify gun control.

it's just one backfire after another, and it's hard to believe these people are as stupid as they seem to be.

it looks to me like they'll take as many guns as then can, then arm factions so they can kill each other... it will be a replay of all the bullshit we're seeing now globally, as factions are pitted against one another so we can intervene and save them from themselves...

...and just incidentally secure oil, pipeline and tanker routes, and israel all at the same time.

i believe in coincidences if there arent to many of them... there's been way too many coincidences

lead.and.lag  posted on  2012-12-14   17:31:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: lead.and.lag (#98)

i got to say that the whole thing is pretty comical... there's a surge in gun sales, so something happens like this to justify gun control.

Guns are bad...mmmkay! If you buy a gun, you're bad.

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2012-12-14   17:35:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: FormerLurker (#88)

...a list of over 4800 documented cases related to SSRIs and other psychiatric drugs...

At least it's not like a lot of them then, eh?

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Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
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In an era of breadlines, depression and wars, I tried to help people get away from all the misery...to turn their minds to something else. I wanted to make people happy, if only for an hour. - Busby Berkeley

Esso  posted on  2012-12-14   17:36:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Dakmar (#99) (Edited)

If you buy a gun, you're bad.

...unless you buy it from your friendly neighborhood imperial arms dealer, who's also selling arms to your worst enemy... "your worst enemy" as defined by the imperial mass media, which intends to start civil wars in the US as the last looting opportunities dwindle.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2012-12-14   17:37:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Esso (#100)

I first went insane reading Mad Magazine in 1974. Where is my social worker?

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2012-12-14   17:37:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: lead.and.lag (#90)

is this a chicken/egg situation?

which came first, the deterioration of the society or the drugs?

is normal, healthy behavior (disgust at the direction we're heading) being diagnosed as mental illness?

or are people being driven truly nuts by the culture

We live in a society that is constantly bombarded not only by violent angry messages on television and in movies, but by "advertisers" who are pushing extremely dangerous drugs on television as if they could cure all sorts of things, sort of like a modern day snake oil.

What I've noticed is that although some people may have issues, 99% of the time it is those who have taken these psychiatric drugs who commit these random acts of violence against innocent victims. Sure there is violence without drugs, whether it be for profit or pure racial hatred, or for personal animosity against another specific person, but mass murder against random people is usually the result of someone on these drugs.

This is not something which should be ignored, and if our government were truly concerned for the safety of our society, they would take steps to reduce and eventually eliminate these drugs from the market. But since the pharmacutecal companies own the FDA and those who work for it, along with the politicians who are supposed to represent us, that will never happen.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-12-14   17:38:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Dakmar (#99) (Edited)

If you buy a gun, you're bad.

Then I'm changing my handle from "X-15" to "I Am Legion!": fear me....

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X-15  posted on  2012-12-14   17:38:29 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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