Title: BREAKING NEWS: CT School Shooter Killer Link To LIBOR SCANDAL Source:
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The father of Newtown Connecticut school shooter Adam Lanza is Peter Lanza who is a VP and Tax Director at GE Financial. The father of Aurora Colorado movie theater shooter James Holmes is Robert Holmes, the lead scientist for the credit score company FICO. Both men were to testify before the US Sentate in the ongoing LIBOR scandal. The London Interbank Offered Rate, known as Libor, is the average interest rate at which banks can borrow from each other. 16 international banks have been implicated in this ongoing scandal, accused of rigging contracts worth trillions of dollars. HSBC has already been fined $1.9 billion and three of their low level traders arrested.
BREAKING NEWS: CT School Shooter Killer Link To LIBOR SCANDAL
My question would be, how did they trigger these individuals to act as they did, when they did?
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
Was researching the Clackamas/Portland, Oregon Mall shooting and I think this video shows (at the 0:33 seconds mark) the same sort of Century Cinemas sign there as the Colorado shooting:
#4. To: Itistoolate, *Black Ops - Psyops* (#3)(Edited)
Watched the video, thanks, and don't dispute it but think that something else is going on too. The psychotropic drugging of our society, compounded with numerous traumatic shocks -- especially to children -- of horrors like maniacal shooters, alleged 9/11 snuff-footage, the OKC bombing, Waco, etc., which ramps up the "psychotherapy" and psychotropic drugging industries even more under the guise of "coping treatments"...it's like a mass MKULTRA formula to destroy our nation and that should be investigated more than it has been; as organized Acts of War against us, not just random acts of violence or random acts of drug-induced violence.
Edited for spelling and spacing.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
...it's like a mass MKULTRA formula to destroy our nation and that should be investigated more than it has been; as organized Acts of War against us, not just random acts of violence or random acts of drug-induced violence.
Correct.
The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable. ~ H. L. Mencken
Mr. Lowy is Director of the Legal Action Project of the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence. He represents communities whose gun laws are challenged in the courts, and victims who have been injured by gun industry negligence, including victims of the DC-area sniper shootings. He is a graduate of Harvard College and the University of Virginia School of Law.
That info was found while I was researching the recent Clackamas/Portland, Oregon mall shooting for a possible link to Frank Lowy; Westfield mall magnate, WTC mall owner and Larry Siverstein's business partner. That Forbes link states that he owns a think tank and also an aviation museum -- somewhat of an odd coincidence, considering the 9/11 WTC scenario, which resulted in much insurance money paid to him as well as Silverstein. He does not have a son named Jonathan but has a brother named John so was not able to rule out that Brady-activist, Jonathan Lowy, might be a nephew or otherwise related. The Clackamas mall is owned by General Growth Properties and is not listed among Frank Lowy's Westfield Group shopping centers. However, he does have one nearby in the Vancouver, Washington area, which is in the Portland-Vancouver Metropolitan area; about 6 miles or so separating those cities. Cinetopia is the name of his mall theaters. He does not have a mall listed in Aurora, Colorado but does have one in Aurora, Illinois. The Clackamas mall, which isn't listed as one of Lowy's, had an ice rink where Olympic villain, Tanya Harding, practiced. However, This link notes that Lowy, in addition to fighting against the British during Briain's Palestine Mandate, that his "newest project of renown" is "Westfield Stratford City which is the gate through which you enter the Olympic sites." Since he fought against the British, it does not seem improbable that he might be involved too in fighting against our Republic.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
In addition to a mall listed in Fairfield, California, he also has one listed in Fairfield County, Connecticut where the Newtown school shooting reportedly occurred.
Edit to cross-reference info on Fairfield County, Connecticut at Post #29 of 4um Title: GEORGE BUSH, 88, PLEADS LET ME DIE AT HOME!
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Kristina Shevchenko, 15, was hospitalized Tuesday night after being shot by a gunman at Clackamas Town Center in Portland, Ore.
By Elizabeth Chuck, NBC News
Updated at 1:30 p.m. ET -- A teenager from Oregon faces a long road to recovery after surviving her second brush with death in just the past few months.
Kristina Shevchenko, 15, was rushed to a hospital Tuesday in critical condition after a masked gunman sprayed bullets around a suburban Portland, Ore., mall during the height of holiday shopping season, piercing her chest. After surgery, she was in stable condition, according to a statement from her family.
Somewhat similarly, one of the reported victims killed in the Aurora, Colorado shooting -- an aspiring sportscaster by the last name of Ghawi aka Redfield -- allegedly had survived another shooting just weeks before that at Eaton Center mall in Toronto, where 7 were said to have been injured and one killed. Her aunt was involved in some media fracas.
Toronto Eaton Centre -- not a mall associated with Frank Lowy, afaik. Cineplex is the name of the theaters there.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
My question would be, how did they trigger these individuals to act as they did, when they did?
It could be neither did anything, but were framed. There were multiple reports of more than one shooter in Colorado, and the initial reports from Connecticut said there were two shooters, one dead, and one that was on the run.
Re: Kristina Shevchenko, alleged victim survivor of the Clackamas mall shooting, and additional info possibly related to organized PsyOp/BlackOp attacks against our nation by agents of foreign powers:
Maybe American towns and cities have not just cells of foreign spies but PsyOp/BlackOp foreign agents too, perhaps even sometimes using children of those rings as acting-participants.
Six months before a lone gunman burst into Clackamas Town Center Tuesday, firing dozens of rounds into the crowds of shoppers, police and mall employees trained together for just such an emergency.
On Wednesday, police and mall employees credited that training, along with quick thinking and brave actions by some of the estimated 10,000 people at the mall, for saving lives. To be familiar with all the back hallways and stairwells in advance really was helpful, said Clackamas County sheriffs Capt. Kevin Layng, who coordinated Tuesdays massive law enforcement response.
A major training exercise based upon a simulated terrorist attack is held in Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania, which neighbors Somerset County where Flight 93 crashes on 9/11. [sic] Tribune-Review reported on the weekend of June 19th, 2001, that the U.S. Department of Defense spent nearly $23,000 to stage a 3-hour event which was called "Exercise Mall Strike 2001": "...Participants in the anti-terrorist drill responded to a fictitious report of an explosion at the Greengate Mall.
That mall is not associated with Frank Lowy's Westfield Group either, afaik, but it was having financial problems, as was the Clackamas mall in Portland, Oregon owned by General Growth Properties (formerly by the Bucksbaum family; current CEO Adam Metz) and here are some related 4um posts about that from years back:
terror drills being conducted at Mall of America and other malls across America have increased rapidly since 9/11. These drills feature various terror scenerios including active shooters, bombings, and nuclear devices by local, state, federal, and foreign entities. *Not a complete list of mall terror drills
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
I watched that video at Post #5. This article might be relevant to it. It opens with: "A trillion-dollar storm is gathering over the commercial real estate landscape that's threatening to add further pain to an already bruised US economy." Also mentions the financial dilemmas of the Portland, Oregon Clackamas mall owners and others in the mall business.
Posted 2009-05-25, 4um Title: NO NEW LEASE ON TRILLIONS IN DEBT: So far the biggest commercial real estate blow up has been that of REIT General Growth Properties Trust, the second-biggest owner of shopping malls throughout the US. It filed for bankruptcy protection last month. [sic] Chairman: John Bucksbaum
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
From the usnews.nbcnews.com link and regarding the issue of possible PsyOp/BlackOp foreign agents here that might be using children of those rings as acting-participants:
Her family continued to update supporters on her condition via a Facebook page on Wednesday, with her brother, Yevgeniy, writing early in the morning, "The bullet went through bruising her lung, it missed any vital organs and it missed her ribs. She will need 2 more operations. we appreciate any and all support including your prayers! Thank you."
Some posts from a 4um Search for "Clackamas", in chronological order, with special attention to the SPLC info listed last as the most recent:
Noting here that the last names of the two victims reported to have been killed in the recent Clackamas mall shooting are:
Forsyth: sounds like foresight.
Yuille: sounds like Yule/Winter Solstice/Yuletide/Feast of the Nativity of Jesus Christ/Christmas.
NBC report on Clackamas - Yuille's stepson interviewed. Similar to many examples re: Sandy Hook Elementary school in Connecticut, he does not appear traumatized or bereaved. Describes her at 1:19 as "too nice":
Noting here that the last name of this alleged father of a 3rd grade student-survivor at Sandy Hook Elementary school in Connecticut sounds like Judas:
Stephen Delgiudice interview -- obeyed the speed limit during drive to the school; cursing heard on the loudspeaker
At 3:01 of the above video, it looks like a gurney is being loaded into an ambulance but who or what is being transported on it, if anything, is unclear. The point is the traffic jam there that would prevent a quick exit to a hospital, if necessary, in a real emergency -- especially the EMS vehicles in that area.
Also, I guess we're supposed to just presume that the people in military-type uniforms and helmets at both of the scenes in Connecticut and Oregon are National Guards but at 0:44-0:49 of the Oregon video below, some look like they're wearing blue jeans:
I know you thread the walls of the deep end GL, but really? Do you honestly believe that?
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
At 3:01 of the above video, it looks like a gurney is being loaded into an ambulance but who or what is being transported on it, if anything, is unclear. The point is the traffic jam there that would prevent a quick exit to a hospital, if necessary, in a real emergency -- especially the EMS vehicles in that area.
Mirror from MsSherrieLea Where are all the injured children and how are they getting them out of the school and to the hospital? How much is real and how much isn't?
There are reports that when emergency medical help arrived at the school, the medical personnel were denied access to the children on the grounds that there were no survivors and the scene was too gruesome. Yet, there is a conflicting story that one six-year old girl had the presence of mind to play dead and walked out of her classroom unscathed. If the story is true, how do we know that other survivors did not bleed to death from wounds because the emergency medical personnel were denied access? Did police exercise more control over the scene than was warranted?
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
I know you thread the walls of the deep end GL, but really? Do you honestly believe that?
Yes, I believe there is a resemblance -- enough that they could be closely related, if not one and the same or photoshop presentations. That's why I made note of it. I also once noted in a Pentagon 9/11 thread a resemblance between this guy on the lawn there and the alleged husband of alleged Flt. 93 Attendant, Cee Cee Lyles but I don't recall you commenting so about that or at all:
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
I guess we're supposed to just presume that the people in military-type uniforms and helmets at both of the scenes in Connecticut and Oregon are National Guards but at 0:44-0:49 of the Oregon video below, some look like they're wearing blue jeans:
Cross-referencing Post #35 of 4um Title: "Sandy Hook massacre Official story spins out of control" for comparative video and pictorial examples of Connecticut Militarized State Police.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Noted another resemblance (somewhat) of possible Newtown, Connecticut Crisis Actors-hoaxing under consideration by me at Post #107 of 4um Title: Sandy Hook Hoax "Medical Examiner" Wayne Carver
Edited for spelling.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
I also once noted in a Pentagon 9/11 thread a resemblance between this guy on the lawn there and the alleged husband of alleged Flt. 93 Attendant, Cee Cee Lyles but I don't recall you commenting so about that or at all:
Well it must have been awhile ago, but just because both guys are black, thin, and bald, doesn't mean they're the same guy.
As far as the woman and the girl you think look alike, well they're both female and have dark hair. Other than that, are you serious?
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
The 15 year old girl has different cheek bone structure, different eye color (brown instead of blue) and shape, has a different nasal structure, and appears somewhat heavy, whereas 27 year old teacher Victoria Soto is slim, and is certainly not a 15 year old girl. If you can't tell a 15 year old from a 27 year old, you have a few issues GL. This is the sort of thing which really brings your credibility into question.
15 year old Kristina Shevchenko
27 year old Victoria Soto
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
The 15 year old girl has different cheek bone structure, different eye color (brown instead of blue) and shape, has a different nasal structure, and appears somewhat heavy, whereas 27 year old teacher Victoria Soto is slim, and is certainly not a 15 year old girl. If you can't tell a 15 year old from a 27 year old, you have a few issues GL. This is the sort of thing which really brings your credibility into question.
Lots of people change their natural eyecolor with contact lenses. Make all the snide insults you want but you're the one bringing your credibility into question by playing dumb about that, even though Soto's eyes don't look blue at all in the middle pic of her that you posted yourself. You have no actual proof that the first pic posted, said to be 15 year old Kristina Shevchenko, isn't of Soto at that age, with weight and features altered by aging. Nor that the photos in question aren't possibly photoshopped to appear as two different people, so as to be convincing enough to official storyliners like you. Photographic morphing technology is not futuristic sci-fi fancy. It exists in the present. Odd that of all the things I've commented on in this thread of more importance -- Connecticut being the State of issuance for Obama's fraudulent Social Security number and Militarized State Police, for examples -- you choose to argue about what I thought I had already explained plainly and reasonably: that I see enough of a resemblance that the females in question could be closely related, if not the same person or photoshop presentations. Did you understand it that time? -- because it happens to be very relevant to the info I posted at #13 above regarding rings of PsyOp/BlackOp covert-agents of foreign powers here, with corroborative examples from 3 MSM news sources (2 here and 1 abroad). That being of serious concern to me doesn't hinge on whether or not you agree or on how low your opinion of me goes.
Edited for spelling and grammar.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
OMFG GL, give it a break. The chubby little 15 year old who survived the mall shooting in Oregon is not the same person as the slender 27 year old who got shot to death.
If you can't tell the difference between the two, no wonder you see things that aren't there in the 9/11 videos.
You have no actual proof that the first pic posted, said to be 15 year old Kristina Shevchenko, isn't of Soto at that age, with weight and features altered by aging
Are you f'in high? YOU posted the first photo of that girl, but found one which was only of her face rather than one which included her upper torso. Are you saying the girl aged 12 years in 5 days (12/8 mall shooting vs 12/14 school shooting)?
Keep smoking whatever it is you're smoking, soon you'll be accusing Lady Gaga of being the actual Victoria Soto, using Photoshop in images online of her to make herself look different.
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
Thanks for your input, wud. The pics are not good comparative angles but I do see similarities of the ear, chin and slope of the nose -- enough that I can't rule out that they might be the same person.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Are you f'in high? YOU posted the first photo of that girl, but found one which was only of her face rather than one which included her upper torso. Are you saying the girl aged 12 years in 5 days (12/8 mall shooting vs 12/14 school shooting)?
I don't think you even have a point other than to be a mudslinging noisemaker. So what if the pic I posted of the girl didn't include the entire torso? She looks chubbier there than the pic you posted, which makes her look even more similar to the slimmer Soto pics; so that doesn't really help your argument any. I most certainly never said that the girl aged 12 years in 5 days and your question as if I did is an example of why your post is just nonsensical flack.
Edited for punctuation.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Me to FL: You have no actual proof that the first pic posted, said to be 15 year old Kristina Shevchenko, isn't of Soto at that age, with weight and features altered [through the years] by aging.
Added bracketed insert to clarify in case others didn't understand what I meant.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
This might be the time for you to exit stage left. Seriously, if you see a resemblance there then I guess you must think all the videos of Bin-Laden were really him instead of an actor which is apparent to most thinking people.
This might be the time for you to exit stage left. Seriously, if you see a resemblance there then I guess you must think all the videos of Bin-Laden were really him instead of an actor which is apparent to most thinking people.
I guess maybe you think that high-level hoaxings are just about bin Laden. If so, perhaps you should follow your own directions at sentence 1.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
This might be the time for you to exit stage left. Seriously, if you see a resemblance there then I guess you must think all the videos of Bin-Laden were really him instead of an actor which is apparent to most thinking people.
Because our government might lie about 911,bin laden,the weapons of mass destruction, Oswald, and on and on BUT IM SURE THEY'D NEVER LIE ABOUT THIS! Duuuuuuuuu
Stop telling others to take a break.. If you don't like her insight Fuck off and don't bitch about it.... I don't agree with everything everyone posts and I might even post counter arguments...
But at some point you gotta realize the futility of trying to win an argument through insults.
Just because you disagree with an assessment by someone else doesn't mean you gotta blast the fuck outta them. Try letting it go sometime.
I guess the Sandy Hook case isn't bizarre enough for GL, where the possible multiple shooters, murder weapon locked in the trunk of a drug dealer's car, and conflicting reports of whether Lanza's mother worked at the school and was shot there or didn't work at the school and was shot in her home, just isn't sexy enough for GL.
No, we need to have a 15 year old girl who survived a mall shooting on 12/8/2012 actually be a 27 year old school teacher who was shot at the Sandy Hook school on 12/14/2012, having worked there for three years. So I guess the 15 year old stuffed her bra and started working at the school when she was 12, put on weight and flew out to Oregon just for the occasion last month, then flew back to Sandy Hook, losing all that weight so nobody would be the wiser, just so that she could get shot on cue.
Yep, whatever it is GL is smoking must be some REALLY REALLY good shit.
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
If you don't like her insight Fuck off and don't bitch about it
Why am I not surprised you agree that a chubby 15 year old girl who survived a mall shooting is the same person as the 27 year old teacher who was shot at Sandy Hook.
You truly are a fucking fool.
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
You know, if you two wish to start your own forum with headlines such as "Hillary Clinton is really Bill Clinton's twin brother", go right ahead, but if you post shit like that here, you can both expect people to call you on it.
If neither one of you wish to be critiqued for what you write, try thinking about what you are saying before you hit the post button. Otherwise, anything you write is fair game.
If what you write has merit, you'd get discussion, but when you sling outrageous comments against the wall to see if it'll stick, and no matter HOW ridiculous your rants, you stomp your feet like little babies if anyone tells you just how ridiculous your claims are, you not only have some issues, it appears you are TROLLING.
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
What kind of fucked up sick Jollys are you getting off of ripping on the ladies observations?
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Being a crass jackhole that has to make him self feel better at the attempted expense of others feelings is bullshit.
Till your recent two posts the discussion was civil. If you wish to be a foul mouthed retard with no class at all, well, you've already shown your colors, where it is you who has just pushed this thread into that direction.
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
f what you write has merit, you'd get discussion, but when you sling outrageous comments against the wall to see if it'll stick, and no matter HOW ridiculous your rants, you stomp your feet like little babies if anyone tells you just how ridiculous your claims are, you not only have some issues, it appears you are TROLLING.
What is outragous is how much time you spend belittling when you dislike the words you read by them.
Fucking shit.
I don't know what to say.
Stop it.
Just fucking stop it.
Leave her the fuck alone.
Stop acting like a monster cyber bully and leave her alone! You dislike what she wrote FINE! You want to inform the world of such disagreement? Well thats peachy, But their is no reason on gods green earth for you to be so fucking vile to both a member of the opposite sex and your elder.
Can I appeal to your chivalry to leaver her alone? How about your sense of christian ethic?
What is it gonna take to get you top stop attacking the ideas so bitterly?
What is it gonna take to get you to be at least civil?
You know what titorite? When I first came onto this forum it was a place where people could come to find facts and articles which were MORE credible than main stream news.
If you had it YOUR way, you and your cohort would have this place at about the same level as Weekly World News, perhaps worse.
The purpose of having a comment section is to evaluate the reports and to provide additional information, which can then be discussed, and the information verified or discarded if it turns out to be false or without merit.
You wish to make this a place where ANY old bullshit can be posted as if it were true, whether you read it in a comic book or on the men's room wall, or whether you just made it up for fun to see how many people you could trick into believing it.
Perhaps you should get an account on YouTube and start your own video channel, make up whatever bullshit you want, pass it off as fact, then get nasty with the people who tell you what an idiot you are.
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
What is it gonna take to get you to be at least civil?
I'm trying to decide if this is all an act of yours, or if you're really serious.
Either way you are one fucked up unit.
Go fuck yourself.
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#50. To: scrapper2, titorite, GreyLmist (#44)(Edited)
The problem with those two is that no matter what, come hell or high water, in the face of compelling evidence, neither one of them will EVER, EVER, and I mean EVER admit that they might be wrong or mistaken.
They will BOTH hammer away, for MONTHS if need be, no matter how ridiculous their position, no matter how wrong they are, none of that matters.
Both of them only care about having the last word, where they delude themselves into thinking they have "won" if people stop posting to them, and that such silence proves they were right all along.
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
Christine , Could you intercede upon our behalf again? I know you talked to us once... I have tried but I can not stand to see Formerlurker here derail thread after thread after thread of GreyLmists with his constant insults and slander and general disruptive attitude.
I am unsure of what you could mediate but I have ran out of ideas and I can only think to appeal to you for some assistance. I don't know what kind of assistance you'd be willing to offer outside of mediation... but hell anything at this point would be welcome just to stop seeing him bash on her so much....
#52. To: christine, titorite, *Black Ops - Psyops* (#51)(Edited)
Christine , Could you intercede upon our behalf again? I know you talked to us once... I have tried but I can not stand to see Formerlurker here derail thread after thread after thread of GreyLmists with his constant insults and slander and general disruptive attitude.
Hey christine, now he wants to censor people from expressing their views on topics he wishes to control.
Apparently he feels like he wants moderator status.
If you look at this thread and see the flow of comments and what triggered them, it's clear that a ridiculous comment was made and responded to, yet argued over to the point of being absurd.
So here comes self appointed 4um moderator titorite, ready to silence any rational feedback, in order to impress GL (who also is one of his "no-plane" allies, where from MY research, the "no-planes movement" IS a disinfo operation designed to divide and conquer the 9/11 Truth movement).
I think I was right about titorite all along, and regret I asked you to take down that article I posted concering those observations.
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#54. To: titorite, Itistoolate, tom007, RickyJ, Original_Intent, scrapper2, wudidiz, HOUNDDAWG, Pinguinite, James Deffenbach, Horse, All (#51)(Edited)
[titorite cries to christine] I have tried but I can not stand to see Formerlurker here derail thread after thread after thread of GreyLmists
BTW slick, this was NOT GreyLmists' thread. GL did not post the article, GL simply dirtied it up with "note the resemblence" between a 15 year old mall shooting survivor and a 27 year old deceased third-grade teacher.
It is not your place to silence ANYONE here on this forum, on this thread, OR any other.
Who do you think you are? Do you think you can charm people who you feel are important in order for you to personally take over and destroy this forum?
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
To you, posting factual rebuttal and common sense is "picking" on someone, yet I don't see you trying to correct those who post wild bullshit, over, and over, and over, and over. Especially when that someone is yourself.
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
Thank you for your chivalrous attempts at intercession on my behalf, sir titorite. Be of good cheer. Am wearing my cyber flack-jacket and helmet to help me grin and bear the barrages by FL. :) I try to look at it like orca whale spray at Seaworld. Bring a cyber-umbrella with you to the audience-section and use it like a shield so you don't get splashed much too, is my advice.
Am wondering if you would do us the favor of reducing the size of the pic you posted at #43 by adding height=X width=X at the end of the path for it? -- with X being whatever numbers would keep the thread from widening the screen display of the posts so we don't have to scroll to the right to read them. (Ex: 500 by 400 or whatever) Thanks in advance if you can make that adjustment before the editing timer closes that window of opportunity.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Am wearing my cyber flack-jacket and helmet to help me grin and bear the barrages by FL.
GL, I was simply disagreeing with your assessment of the little 15 year old survivor and the deceased 27 year old third grade teacher.
To you, rebuttals utilizing common sense are "barrages" worthy of "cyber flack-jacket and helmet".
Well at least you're not as much of a drama queen as titorite, he's got you beat on that by a mile or two.
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
BTW slick, this was NOT GreyLmists' thread. GL did not post the article, GL simply dirtied it up with "note the resemblence" between a 15 year old mall shooting survivor and a 27 year old deceased third-grade teacher.
It is not your place to silence ANYONE here on this forum, on this thread, OR any other.
Who do you think you are? Do you think you can charm people who you feel are important in order for you to personally take over and destroy this forum?
You are correct, FL, that this isn't my thread. It's Itistoolate's thread, who has been kindly tolerant of letting me use it as a workstation for various research topics of concern to me; and maybe even of some concern to others besides you. Neither is it your place to search and destroy where I'm posting by constantly making mountains of brawling posts over things as simple as a 3 word summary-comment (Noting a resemblance) and a single sentence about a video-analysis that I posted as an effort to communicate topically and supportively with you in a netiquettely polite manner.
You presume as fact things that I do not -- because that's what was reported, I guess; along with mesmerizing film and pictures in the storylines that you also presume to be factual. I, however, have long been posting (even before arriving here at this forum) about PsyOp/BlackOp pseudo-event aspects and hoaxing possibilites regarding stories du jour to herd America and the world into the directions of villainous agendists. That doesn't mean my postings about it are irrational delusions. It just means that you are not cut out, so to speak, for those fields of study. In closing, it's not as big of a deal to me as it seems to be to you that you aren't ok with my views and research but knock yourself out if you want to be a public nuisance. It's not my duty to restrain your outrageous outbursts but you might give some courteous thought to restraining yourself from ransacking premises here that aren't yours.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GL, I was simply disagreeing with your assessment of the little 15 year old survivor and the deceased 27 year old third grade teacher.
The thing is that you seem to believe 100%, based on news reports, that there actually was a little 15 year old survivor and deceased 27 year old third grade teacher and that they are two different people and I am not so convinced of that to a reasonable degree of certainty. As far as I know at this point, the little 15 year old depicted could be a photo of Soto when Soto was 15. Of course I realize that I could be wrong about that and am not really much surprised if you and others don't agree that there's even so much as a familial resemblance between the two. The comparison was posted mostly for consideration as a continuation of the data at Post #13 and my compiled filings here and elsewhere on that subject of PsyOp/BlackOp covert-agent rings of foreign powers moving against our nation.
To you, rebuttals utilizing common sense are "barrages" worthy of "cyber flack-jacket and helmet".
Well at least you're not as much of a drama queen as titorite, he's got you beat on that by a mile or two.
No, FL. I really don't mind common sense rebuttals. Welcome them, even, if constructive criticisms. It's a plethora of scathing remarks like, "Are you [expletive deleted] high?" and such that I object to as "barrages" of cyber-shrapnel. I don't agree with your assessment of titorite but do appreciate your kindly (for you) assessment of my exchanges with you on this matter. Hopefully, we can keep it civil henceforth now.
Edited for spelling and spacing.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
lol Nope, no pictures from me and not jk. Not due so much to vanity, mind you, because of being what younger generations could call an over-the-hill chick but more like a precaution against hacker-burglars, I'm sure you'll agree is the prudent thing to do onlinewise. :)
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Okie dokie. So YOU are another one of the "it was all children actors who were shot", "15 year old mall shooting survivor is really the 27 year old 3rd grade teacher who was shot at Sandy Hook", and "no planes hit the WTC on 9/11" folks.
Yet you call ME a kook? Sorry, I thought you were joking. I suppose you are another one who has either destroyed too many brain cells with illegal (along with legal) substances, or who is just plain whacked out.
Just out of curiousity, what part of the country are you from? I'm trying to figure out if they've been spraying something in the air in certain parts of the country as an experiment to see if some new mind control drug (or stupidity drug) really works.
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
See you're still trying for the role of 4um cop eh? Go play out in the highway titor ite, perhaps a Delorian might drive by and take you "back to the future".
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
Cross-referncing Post #57 of 4um Title: The Official Story Of The Sandy Hook School Shooting Is Riddled With Holes
Re: More possible PsyOp/BlackOp covert-agents of foreign powers under review; these likely of Russian descent, as is likely in the case of the alleged 15 year-old female survivor of the Clackamas mall scenario's official reports. Adult male in this example seen to be moving as an enemy against our Constitution and Republic.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Cross-referencing Post #57 of 4um Title: The Official Story Of The Sandy Hook School Shooting Is Riddled With Holes
Re: More possible PsyOp/BlackOp covert-agents of foreign powers under review; these likely of Russian descent, as is likely in the case of the alleged 15 year-old female survivor of the Clackamas mall scenario's official reports. Adult male in this example seen to be moving as an enemy against our Constitution and Republic.
Cross-references from 4um Title: The Official Story Of The Sandy Hook School Shooting Is Riddled With Holes
The YouTube video at Posts #89 and #128 titled: SANDY HOOK HOAX BLOWN TO PIECES - THE ACTORS, PUPPETS AND MOTIVES - GUN CONTROL AGENDA SCAM (OLD)]
Excerpt from Post #132 at that thread re: the video there that is linked above.
At 1:18:38 Alexis/Alexi Haller, alleged uncle of Noah Pozner - no accent but a slight one at 1:20:53 and 1:21:13. Alexi Haller with an accent at 1:22:23.
Haller's accent sounds Russian.
Edited for link activation, link title correction, spelling and spacing + last sentence for clarity.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Re: More possible PsyOp/BlackOp covert-agents of foreign powers under review; these likely of Russian descent, as is likely in the case of the alleged 15 year-old female survivor of the Clackamas mall scenario's official reports.
You come across with a good post every now and then, as in your post on the Oathkeeper video, but here you come across as a true nut.
You're still trying to tie a 15 year old mall shooting survivor into Sanday Hook? You don't ever admit you're wrong do you.
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
What about the LIBOR connection? Seitz-Wald quotes Ben Swann, who admitted there was no evidence to support it. But there is also no evidence to refute it. A lack of evidence either way does not mean the point has been debunked. It means the question is still open.
[Update, January 28. The LIBOR connection has now been found for Peter Lanza. In a Reuters article from October, 2012, by Basil Katz, it is admitted that three men from GE Capital based in Fairfield, Connecticut, were convicted of conspiracy to commit wire fraud in order to defraud the US Government. Since this concerns bid rigging for municipal bonds, its link to LIBOR is not obvious at a glance. LIBOR is more commonly thought to concern rigging of interbank rates. But the link certainly exists, since UBS AG [Union Bank Switzerland] and JPMorgan Chase executives have also been convicted in the same scheme as GE. Both banks are major players in the LIBOR scandal, and are under ongoing investigation by Congress and the Justice Department.
Furthermore, these banks and others are being sued in the US for corollary fraud involving mortgage rate manipulation, and, yes, muni bond fraud. At Wikipedia, it is admitted that LIBOR manipulation may have cost municipalities ten billion in losses from interest rate swaps. These interest rate swaps are directly linked to the LIBOR rate rigging. Also notice that the executives at GE were convicted of wire fraud. That pulls back in James Holmes' father, from the Batman tragedy. Holmes' father is a top national expert in wire fraud. But it gets even bigger.
In Octoberthe same time as the article by Basil Katzit was reported that both the House and Senate are investigating Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner's and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke's links to LIBOR. So we see that in the two months leading up to Sandy Hook, the entire banking system of the US found itself in a scandal bigger than any since...well, ever. The news of this scandal still hasn't broken in the mainstream, and we may imagine that one of the uses of Sandy Hook was to keep the banking scandal out of the papers. This means we have caught Seitz-Wald in yet another lie. The LIBOR connection has not been debunked,