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Title: The Federal Government is Guilty Accomplice in School Shooting in Newtown Connecticut
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URL Source: http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2012/12 ... ooting-in-newtown-connecticut/
Published: Dec 16, 2012
Author: Stewart Rhodes
Post Date: 2012-12-16 13:01:05 by James Deffenbach
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Comments: 27
This shooting is yet another tragic example of the failed, grotesque insistence on helpless victim zones where any crazed gunman can be assured of a large number of disarmed, undefended, helpless victims, all crammed into one place, where he can kill many children before an armed defender arrives from elsewhere. It is disturbing and sick that the federal government so hates the right of the American people to bear arms, and so hates their natural right to self defense, that the government insists on making them helpless, disarmed victims for anyone who cares to kill them. And in this case, all of the teachers and staff were willfully disarmed by the Federal Government, by force of law and threat of prison, to ensure that they would be disarmed and incapable of saving the lives of the children entrusted to their care. That makes the Federal Government complicit in the deaths of these children, and in fact an accessory to their mass murder, by forcibly disarming (with the very real threat of prison) all the teachers, all the staff, and any parent who may have been on school property. That stupid law guaranteed the shooters would meet no immediate armed resistance, which is exactly what is needed to stop such an attack. In such a shooting (as in every criminal attack), seconds count, and the people best positioned to stop the attack are the people on the scene – the intended victims and/or their care-takers. In this case, that would mean the teachers and staff of the school who were responsible for the well-being of those children, and also the parents, who should have the ability to save the lives of their own children as they take them to and from school. The police cannot, and do not arrive in time to stop such shooters from killing large numbers of people. They are a slow reactive force compared to an armed citizen on the scene. This should be common sense, as it is obvious that in the immediacy of a criminal attack, it is the intended victims (or their immediate care-takers) who are there, in position to put a stop to the attack, if they are capable. And being capable means being armed, trained, willing, and able to use deadly force, right then, right there. Anything less leads to what we saw here. But no doubt the rabid anti-gun government supremacists will use this to further their agenda to disarm the American people, totally ignoring that obvious, plain-as-day truth. Anti-gun nuts trust the government with guns, but not the people, and insist that the lowly citizen must be disarmed and helpless in the face of murderous assault, and must wait on slow responding armed government employees, who will not be there when the attack starts, and most often can only really clean up the horrendous crime scene afterwards and maybe, just maybe apprehend a shooter who has chosen not to kill himself (as they usually do). The bottom line is that these teachers and staff at the Sandy Hook Elementary School were incapable of keeping these children safe, and incapable of defending them. And one of the biggest reasons they were so incapable and unprepared to save the lives of the children entrusted to their care is because the anti-gun nuts and their fellow travelers in government insisted on disarming every adult in the vicinity, by threatening them with prison time – EXCEPT the gunmen, who don’t care about the law and thus were not disarmed. laws against carrying weapons in schools don’t stop evil men with murderous intent. Such laws only disarm the law abiding and virtuous, who are now rendered incompetent to defend the precious children in their care. This is disgusting. And yet another reason to home-school. Why would you want to leave your children helpless, in the hands of adults who are themselves helpless, and incapable of defending them, by government decree? For all we know, one of the teachers may have been a veteran, with the training and skill to use a firearm if one had been available. But all the teachers and staff, whatever their ability with firearms, were stripped of the choice and chance to save the lives of these kids. There are more good guys than bad guys in the world. But the good guys need to be able to stop the bad guys, and that means they need to be armed so they can stop the bad guys on the spot, without having to wait for “official” government approved good guys to respond. Trust the teachers with arms so they can save the lives of their students. Until the adults are allowed to actually act like adults, and defend themselves and their students, this kind of willful killing will continue to happen, and the federal government will in each case be a guilty party to the conspiracy by ensuring that the targets are disarmed. Until this changes, you should refuse to give your children over to government schools lorded over by a Federal Government so callous and indifferent to their safety and lives. Stewart Rhodes, Founder of Oath Keepers UPDATE: President Obama Issues Statement Just hours after yesterday’s tragic mass shooting at a Connecticut Elementary School, President Obama issued a statement , in which he said this: For once, I agree with something Obama says. I agree we have been through this too many times, and we are going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics – by finally, and completely removing restrictions on the ability of teachers and other school staff to carry firearms to protect the children in their care. It is clear and obvious that the fact that the teachers were disarmed by force of law was a direct cause of their inability to defend the children in their care. The police could not and did not get there in time to protect the kids. The idea that the teachers should wait for professional “authorized” armed defenders to arrive obviously failed, as it failed at Columbine, and as it failed at Virginia Tech, and as it has failed in every other school shooting, from grade schools, to high schools, to colleges. Those were all senseless tragedies of helpless victims that were made possible because of illogical politics. We need to set aside political agendas and do what is best for the children – arm their teachers and school staff, or at least let them protect the children if they so choose. After all, we trust these teachers and staff with our kids every day. Surely we can trust them to also be armed so they can competently defend our kids. So nice to see Obama finally express a willingness to talk about solutions that will actually work. It is about time. Oh, wait … do you mean to say Obama didn’t meant we should do the obvious, logical thing and arms the teachers and the staff, who are already vetted, trusted caretakers? You mean to say he is talking about the exact opposite - more victim disarmament as the solution? That he STILL doesn’t trust the teachers and staff with guns, and he still wants them to be unarmed, and unable to defend the children? And he wants to pile on even more restrictions on the right of the people to defend themselves? No, say it isn’t so! [Sarcasm off] Obama wasted no time at all in dancing in the blood of innocent victims, as I knew he would (I believe it was David Codrea, over at War on Guns, who coined the term “blood dancers” to describe the victim disarmament ghouls who use such tragedies to further their agenda. I think it fits splendidly). When Obama says set politics aside and come together to take meaningful action, he means “set aside your outdated devotion to your right to bear arms, set aside your clinging to your guns, and let’s finally disarm the American people.” That’s what he means. And that is what his fellow travelers, like New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, Michael Moore, and others of their ilk mean. As always, and as usual, their answer to a mass murder in a “gun free” disarmed victim zone, by an armed murderer who doesn’t give a crap about any stupid laws, is MORE victim disarmament, by means of more laws. In response to a tragedy exacerbated by, and facilitated by a victim disarmament zone, their answer is to turn all of the United States into one huge “gun free” victim disarmament zone, where the average, law abiding citizen is completely disarmed, and incapable of defending themselves, where the only people who will have guns will be outlaws and the government, leaving the great mass of the people defenseless sheep, unable to defend themselves in any meaningful or effective way against private crime – leaving them disarmed in the face of private robbery, assault, rape, and murder – and also defenseless against government crime – government robbery, assault, rape, and murder. You know, like England, where the strong and young, and those who run in packs, rule the street, and the average citizen is prosecuted for even trying to defend themselves with a kitchen knife or a screw driver. In England, women are left vulnerable to rape by larger and stronger males, and the small, frail, weak, and old are all easy prey for the young, tough and numerous attackers who want to use them as sport or as a resource . A nation of Eloi. That is what Obama and his ilk want to see done here. Well, Molon Labe, Obama. Molon Labe. Easier said than done. There are millions of us who will NOT disarm, no matter what stupid law you manage to pass, or what Executive Order you pull out of your ass. Frankly, I hope they try it. Maybe that will finally wake up all the sleeping Elmer Fudds out there, and all the sleeping “conservatives” who have hardly said a word at the destruction of the First, Fourth, Fifth, and Sixth Amendments the past dozen years, because they were so scared of al Qaida that they were willing to sacrifice those vital parts of the Bill of Rights in the name of security. Maybe, just maybe, they will finally wake the hell up when it is the Second Amendment on the chopping block. It is sad, but true, that the minds of so many conservatives have been so corrupted and so mangled by the War on Terror, which is really a war on our Bill of Rights, that the only part of the Bill of Rights they still really care about is the Second Amendment. If this is what it takes to finally get them angry, alarmed, and up in arms over the destruction of our Republic – to FINALLY get them to stand up to the oath breaking, treasonous politicians in both major parties – then so be it. Let it come. By God, let it come. Bring it Obama. Stewart Rhodes About the author: Before attending Yale Law School, Stewart Rhodes served as a U.S. Army Paratrooper and then served as a Nevada state certified concealed carry firearms instructor in Las Vegas, Nevada, where he taught basic, intermediate, and advanced combat handgun classes. Stewart also taught rape prevention and street crime survival for the Jean Nidecht Woman’s Center at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas (UNLV) and at Yale for the Yale Law Women’s group. Stewart has written for Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership (JPFO) and as a lawyer has worked on several gun rights legal cases, including writing an amicus brief in the Olofson case (where an innocent man went to prison because his malfunctioning rifle fired more than one shot with each trigger pull, which the BATF insisted was a machine gun). Stewart is the Founder and President of Oath Keepers, an association of current serving military, police, and firs t responders, as well as veterans of those services. As a country, we have been through this too many times. Whether it’s an elementary school in Newtown, or a shopping mall in Oregon, or a temple in Wisconsin, or a movie theater in Aurora, or a street corner in Chicago — these neighborhoods are our neighborhoods, and these children are our children. And we’re going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics.
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#1. To: James Deffenbach (#0)
Is Boehner crying yet? He looks like the gun grabber type.
Everybody shares complicity, including the school, the govt, the medical profession .... everyone except the gun manufacturers, the gun salesmen, the NRA and the gun lobby. They're NEVER to blame.
Is the gun, which is an inanimate object, to blame for the nuts who use them for evil purposes? What about the drones your boy Obama uses on innocent children in foreign lands, is it their fault that they are being used by a murderous tyrant? If Obama wants to disarm everyone he should set the example by disarming his security goons. And make the White House and Air Force One gun free zones. Let's see the sumbitch put his ideas into effect where it might not be so good for him.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi "If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken "..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
He is probably trying to give Obama lessons on how to cry and make it look real. So far he hasn't gotten that part down. Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi "If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken "..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
How many guns have jumped off the shelf, run to the local skool, and then began firing all by their lonesome? Like most gun grabbers your thought is shallow. You look at the result, and the tool used, and then conclude it is the tool's fault. The illogic of it all is mind numbing. And there is no such person as "Everybody" it is always "Somebody". The Even worse are the fiends who prescribe these filthy drugs - Psychiatrists, and their enablers at the FDA and AMA. My only complaint about the NRA is that they are not agressive enough in defense of our rights as free citizens. GUNS DO NOT KILL PEOPLE - THE DRUGGED PSYCHOTIC PULLING THE TRIGGER IS A REQUIRED ELEMENT. I have never in all these years seen any instance of that or heard of one. And I agree with you about the NRA, they are not aggressive enough in defense of our rights. I have owned guns since I was a youngster and in all this time not one has ever jumped up and left the house to go out looking for someone to kill. Not one time. Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi "If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken "..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
ADL Horrified at Connecticut Elementary School Massacre New York, NY, December 14, 2012 … The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) today expressed shock, disbelief and horror at the mass killing at a Newtown, Connecticut elementary school in which a gunman reportedly killed at least two dozen people, including at least 18 children. Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director, and Gary Jones, ADL Connecticut Regional Director issued the following statement: We were shocked and horrified to learn of the massacre of at least two dozen people, including at least 18 children, at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut. We mourn with the victims of the families and the entire community. There is nothing that can justify the killing of innocents, especially young children. We hope that this was not an act motivated by hatred, as so many other school shootings have been in the past. It is hard to imagine why or how anyone could walk into a school with a gun. We are deeply appreciative of the dedication of town, Connecticut and federal law enforcement officials investigating this crime. We are confident that their diligence will determine what motivated the killer, and how he was able to gain access to the weapons and ammunition used in the killing. ADL has long been an advocate for strong, effective and sensible gun control legislation. Since 1967, ADL has favored expanded federal and state regulation of the sale and transfer of firearms and other dangerous weapons. Unfortunately, all too many times we have sadly witnessed the tragic dangers guns present. Across the country in schools, businesses and houses of worship, individuals have used guns to terrorize communities and local institutions. We firmly believe that one way to limit the power of extremists and reduce violence in our communities is to enact tough, effective gun control legislation. In an era of breadlines, depression and wars, I tried to help people get away from all the misery...to turn their minds to something else. I wanted to make people happy, if only for an hour. - Busby Berkeley Well, of course there was no hatred involved, he did it out of love. Man, there is a full tractor-trailer load of pure, unadulterated bs in that nonsense Foxman is spouting. Someone should ask him why, if disarming everyone is such a good thing, that even the teachers in Israel are armed. And why do people openly carry automatic and semi-automatic weapons in plain sight over there? Why is it ok there and not here? Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi "If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken "..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
Sure. Can't you just picture the little slimeball glued to his TV set muttering "Please let the killer be a white supremacist..." ? "I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs
...from Iran." In an era of breadlines, depression and wars, I tried to help people get away from all the misery...to turn their minds to something else. I wanted to make people happy, if only for an hour. - Busby Berkeley “I think we ought to restore that assault weapons ban,” Lieberman said on “Fox News Sunday,” during a discussion about Friday’s deadly shooting at a school in his home state, in which a gunman used as semiautomatic weapon to kill 20 children and six adults. Lieberman also called for the launch of a commission to better understand tragedies such as the one in Newtown, Conn., and prevent them from happening again. “I think we need a national commission on mass violence” in order to ensure that anger and heartbreak are “not lost in legislative gridlock,” he said. We need a national commission for mass-gridlock. Someone here was asking for the definition of chutzpah awhile back. Whoever it was should be directed to that rant by Foxman.
Lieberman sounds like he's pulling boilerplate phrases out of a hat. "I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs
Just the latest in a long line of Blue State shootings.
I doubt Foxman could handle that, he'd probably schmutz himself. "I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs
Not one word in Foxman's spiel about the psychotropic drugging of our society, even children. I suspect that's because he knows Israel is a mass market producer of generic versions for Big Pharma's lucrative drug industry.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Abolish the party politics of Commie Leftists attacking our Constitution and ooga-booga orchestrations for their propaganda purposes would probably be halted muchly.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Who's to blame if it was staged to deflect attention from these current event happenings posted at Rense.com?: Taitz - 7 Days To File For TRO To Stop Election Certification ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
I was just thinking along these lines. The congressional elections of '14 are - believe it or not - just around the corner. When Obama launches his attack on us, we need to oust anyone who votes for additional gun legislation and our votes can't be for an R. We need a 3rd party ASAP.
The Teabaggers will tell us: Nobody has a right to affordable health care ... But everyone has a right to an assault rifle.
Citizens have a right to as much assault rifle as they can afford.......same as health insurance. I don't ask you to pay for my assault rifles, so why should I pay for your health insurance? " If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11 "Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
Before government can guarantee provision of a specific good or service to any one individual, thus creating a so-called “positive right,” it must first take by force the means of producing that very good or service from someone else. Health care is no different. Whether by forcibly appropriating and redistributing the money to purchase care for those who lack it, or by arbitrarily devaluing the time and effort of those who provide it, once a government mandate supplants voluntary exchange, coercion must be used to exercise that right to health care. But how can taking what belongs to another person (their money, time, or effort) through legislative force be a right? Is that not the very essence of slavery? The truth is that the only rights actually guaranteed to Americans by the Constitution are those that protect freedom of action. They are "negative rights," which do exactly the opposite of their positive counterparts. Rather than initiate and rely on the use of force to produce a specific reward or outcome, negative rights allow individuals to act or not act in the absence of coercion, so long as they do not hinder the freedom of others to do the same. For instance, it is the right of people in this country to vocalize unpopular opinions, associate with unpopular people, practice unpopular religions, and even carry unpopular weapons. Thanks to our negative rights the government cannot, without due process, take the life, liberty, or property of any American. But nowhere in the Constitution does it say that, in order to exercise their rights, each citizen must at birth be given a microphone, a bible, or a gun. That was no accident. For more than two hundred years, the freedom and responsibility to determine one's own future has been the foundation of America's unparalleled success. But the critical role played by our negative rights has become less and less clearly understood over time. Many of this country's most celebrated leaders have manipulated that ignorance, redefining rights as unearned rewards for politically favored groups; payoffs thinly veiled in the pious rhetoric of social justice. FDR himself was among the worst. The abject failure of the New Deal notwithstanding, FDR proposed to codify his authoritarian progressive agenda in a constitutional amendment, known as the Economic Bill of Rights. It reads like a list that could just as easily have flowed from the pen of Karl Marx: The right to a useful and remunerative jobs; The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation; The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living; The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition; The right of every family to a decent home; The right to adequate medical care; The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment; The right to a good education. Besides being, as any citizen of the former Soviet Union can attest, economically disastrous and utterly impossible to define or achieve, the biggest problem with FDR's list was that it sought to make America into a nation of serfs. The logic is inescapable. Once something has been deemed a right by those in government, the ability of every person who produces or consumes that good or service to engage in voluntary transactions with the fruit of their own labor is stolen. Their labor is then owned and administered by agents of the collective. Again, I ask: Is that not the very essence of slavery? There is no doubt that freedom entails risk, and America has not always lived up to the promise of her founding. But when certain people or groups pervert the notion of rights, harnessing the power of government to take by force what they desire but have not earned, then negative freedom becomes a positive tyranny. Let us hope that more Americans, before it is too late, learn how to tell the difference. http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/...llacy-of-positive-rights/ Much of this has sadly been superseded by various criminals in the White House, the latest being the Kenyan who is not even eligible to hold the office. In theory we are not supposed to be deprived of any of our rights without due process but now we have come to the place where presidents think of themselves as kings and can ride roughshod over the Constitution and the rights of Americans. Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi "If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken "..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
You tell him, ab!
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi "If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken "..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
An armed teacher or administrator could have stopped that slaughter in the "no gun" zone. A ban on assault weapons sure as hell won't stop it, especially when Obama is running assault rifles down to the drug cartels who run 'em right back into the US for a nice profit. Oh, and this nation was armed to the teeth with very few gun restrictions in the 1950's and 1960's but we didn't have these school shootings.....so the laws or lack of laws on 2A are NOT the catalyst. " If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11 "Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
Libs never understand that they can make all the laws they want but criminals, by definition, don't GAS about laws. Someone with intent to murder another person or bunch of people is going to decide that he can't do that because there is a law against guns? Hell no, he will steal a gun or kill them some other way. Not only that, there are probably somewhere around 20,000 "laws" on the books right now in regard to guns, most of which would be in violation of the second amendment and all those laws haven't stopped any of these nutters from getting their hands on guns and killing people. edited to add: And no law yet passed has stopped worthless politicians from getting us involved in wars against people who have done nothing to us and killing innocent men, women and children in faraway lands to try out the newest, latest and greatest instruments of death and destruction. Ef all the tyrants and their sympathizers, I am tired of them all. Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi "If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken "..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
I see that, even when the gunman has an Italian name, the Jew-haters find an excuse ......
Jethro Tull: I was just thinking along these lines. The congressional elections of '14 are - believe it or not - just around the corner. When Obama launches his attack on us, we need to oust anyone who votes for additional gun legislation and our votes can't be for an R. We need a 3rd party ASAP. I vote to oust all opponents of the Constitution immediately by pronouncing them Secessionists. Below is a pdf copy of a post from another forum that I was reminded of by yours. Couldn't locate a path for the pic shown there to post it here but this is a link to a similar one at a usnews.com article: http://www.nogw.com/download/2006...pdf Post 294495096 [by laconas, 03/18/06] Feb. 2003 The 3 Jews, Schumer, Boxer, and Israel hold a press conference to talk about the dangers of shoulder fired missiles. Rep D NY Steve Israel introduces bill in House. May 2003 Senator Boxer introduces bill in Senate, with support from Schumer. August 2003 Jew mob member Yehuda Abraham and others get arrested for smuggling missiles into the US. August 2003 The 3 Jews, Schumer, Boxer, and Israel stop talking about the dangers of shoulder fired missiles. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#2. To: James Deffenbach (#0)
#3. To: Shoonra (#2)
#4. To: hondo68 (#1)
Is Boehner crying yet? He looks like the gun grabber type.
#5. To: Shoonra, James Deffenbach (#2)
dope drug manufacturers and their profit at any cost and regardless of consequences mentality share major responsibility in this killing spree. At this point they well know the side effects of their toxic wares. Had they a scrap of decency, which they do not, they would voluntarily cease selling them. However, they are huge cash cows - they cost little to make, have an enormous mark-up, and are prescribed based on the opinions of easily bought quacks.
#6. To: Original_Intent (#5)
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How many guns have jumped off the shelf, run to the local skool, and then began firing all by their lonesome?
#7. To: James Deffenbach, 4um (#0)
You'd think these stupid cocksuckers would've learned their lesson, unless of course the holohoax never really happened as advertised...
As long as the goyim are dyin', it's ALL good, isn't that right Abe?
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#8. To: Esso (#7)
We hope that this was not an act motivated by hatred,
#9. To: James Deffenbach, Esso (#8)
We hope that this was not an act motivated by hatred,
#10. To: Dakmar (#9)
Can't you just picture the little slimeball glued to his TV set muttering "Please let the killer be a white supremacist...
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#11. To: Esso (#7)
Sen. Joseph Lieberman (I-Conn.) on Sunday called for a restoration of a federal assault weapons ban that expired in 2004, as well the launch of a national commission aimed at preventing instances of mass violence from happening again.
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#12. To: Esso (#7)
#13. To: hondo68 (#11)
“I think we need a national commission on mass violence” in order to ensure that anger and heartbreak are “not lost in legislative gridlock,” he said.
#14. To: Shoonra (#2)
Everybody shares complicity, including the school, the govt, the medical profession .... everyone except the gun manufacturers, the gun salesmen, the NRA and the gun lobby. They're NEVER to blame.
#15. To: Esso (#10)
...from Iran."
#16. To: Esso (#7)
#17. To: Jethro Tull (#14)
#18. To: Shoonra (#2)
Everybody shares complicity, including the school, the govt, the medical profession .... everyone except the gun manufacturers, the gun salesmen, the NRA and the gun lobby. They're NEVER to blame.
#19. To: GreyLmist (#17)
Abolish the party politics of Commie Leftists attacking our Constitution
#20. To: James Deffenbach (#0)
#21. To: Shoonra (#20)
Nobody has a right to affordable health care ... But everyone has a right to an assault rifle.
#22. To: Shoonra (#20)
The Teabaggers will tell us: Nobody has a right to affordable health care ... But everyone has a right to an assault rifle.
#23. To: abraxas (#21)
#24. To: James Deffenbach, Shoonie (#23)
#25. To: abraxas (#24)
(Edited)
#26. To: Esso (#7)
As long as the goyim are dyin', it's ALL good, isn't that right Abe?
#27. To: Jethro Tull, *Jack-Booted Thugs* (#19)
Me: Abolish the party politics of Commie Leftists attacking our Constitution
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