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Title: 'Hormonal' women most attractive
Source: BBC News
URL Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4396230.stm
Published: Nov 19, 2005
Author: unknown
Post Date: 2005-11-19 18:40:05 by christine
Keywords: Hormonal, attractive, women
Views: 397
Comments: 60

Women with high levels of the sex hormone oestrogen have prettier faces, research suggests.

Typical female face with high (left) and low (right) oestrogen levels

The findings make evolutionary sense - men are attracted to the most fertile women, the University of St Andrews team told a Royal Society journal.

Oestrogen levels during puberty can impact on appearance by affecting bone growth and skin texture, they said.

But make-up masks this effect, allowing less attractive women to compensate for their lack of natural mating cues.

It makes sense for men to favour feminine fertile women - those that did would have had more babies

Psychologist Miriam Law Smith

The team of psychologists at the University's Perception Lab photographed 59 young women's faces aged between 18 and 25 and analysed their sex hormone levels.

They then asked 30 volunteers - 15 male and 15 female - to rate the faces according to attractiveness.

Both male and female volunteers rated the faces of the women with the highest hormone levels as the most attractive.

Feminine features

These faces tended to have classically feminine features, such as larger eyes and lips and smaller noses and jaws.

However, when the women in the photographs were wearing make-up, no relationship between attractiveness and oestrogen was found.

The researchers believe that, while make-up improves facial appearance, it may be masking cues normally seen in the face.

Women are employing a deceptive strategy. They can fool the male visual system with make-up

Dr Tony Little from Liverpool University

Head of the study, Miriam Law Smith, said: "Women are effectively advertising their general fertility with their faces.

"Make-up can improve appearance across the board, but it will obviously help people who are less attractive more."

For example, eye make-up can be used to make the eyes appear bigger and foundation can make the skin look clearer.

"Our findings could explain why men universally seem to prefer feminine women's faces.

"In evolutionary terms, it makes sense for men to favour feminine fertile women - those that did would have had more babies," she added.

Dr Tony Little, a lecturer in the School of Biological Sciences at the University of Liverpool, said: "It's a very interesting study.

"The findings make sense. There are clear benefits to choosing particular types of female faces. Oestrogen is related to fertility.

"The findings about make-up are also interesting. The implication is that women are employing a deceptive strategy. They can fool the male visual system with make-up."

He said his studies with co-worker Craig Roberts showed female attractiveness also fluctuated throughout the menstrual cycle, peaking at a woman's most fertile days. (1 image)

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#21. To: Dakmar (#19)

especially attracted to large boobs?

Not "especially," but occasionally. I think some o' these gals may be hiding magnets, not that there's anything wrong with that.

Rabble Rouser  posted on  2005-11-19   20:31:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Dakmar (#19)

Are you especially attracted to large boobs?

Uh, who does not notice a nice rack?

Lod  posted on  2005-11-19   20:33:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Dakmar (#20)

tralier court

Court? Trailer "court?" Did you really say that? Well, I guess it's pretty amazing that I thought you were American for this long, anyway. To your credit, amigo.

Rabble Rouser  posted on  2005-11-19   20:44:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: lodwick (#22)

Uh, who does not notice a nice rack?

It's all a matter of degree, my friend. What I'm trying to find out is if there is a correlation between men who like extremely large cartoonish boobs and the infantile mind, going back to childhood.

And I'm optimistic. See, I think you can be realistic and optimistic at the same time. I'm optimistic we'll achieve -- I know we won't achieve if we send mixed signals. I know we're not going to achieve our objective if we send mixed signals - gwbush

Dakmar  posted on  2005-11-19   20:45:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Rabble Rouser (#23)

Court? Trailer "court?" Did you really say that? Well, I guess it's pretty amazing that I thought you were American for this long, anyway. To your credit, amigo.

I'm a realist. There are some butt-ugly people churning out millions of kids in america's trailer courts. Or should I say trailer parks? It's a regional thing I guess.

And I'm optimistic. See, I think you can be realistic and optimistic at the same time. I'm optimistic we'll achieve -- I know we won't achieve if we send mixed signals. I know we're not going to achieve our objective if we send mixed signals - gwbush

Dakmar  posted on  2005-11-19   20:47:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: christine (#1)

Men with feminine faces will be luckier in love as most women are attracted to them rather than masculine men, Liverpool University scientists say.

Well sure, in Britan feminine looking men are the only option women have.

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Dude Lebowski  posted on  2005-11-19   20:49:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: christine (#1)

Image of Tom Cruise, altered to look more feminine on the left and masculine on the right

(I'm far more attracted to the square jawed masculine face on the right)

Does Nancy Kulp do anything for ya?

And I'm optimistic. See, I think you can be realistic and optimistic at the same time. I'm optimistic we'll achieve -- I know we won't achieve if we send mixed signals. I know we're not going to achieve our objective if we send mixed signals - gwbush

Dakmar  posted on  2005-11-19   20:53:18 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Dakmar (#27)

The Hardy boys wear pearls?

tom007  posted on  2005-11-19   20:57:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: tom007 (#28)

brings out their high cheekbones.

And I'm optimistic. See, I think you can be realistic and optimistic at the same time. I'm optimistic we'll achieve -- I know we won't achieve if we send mixed signals. I know we're not going to achieve our objective if we send mixed signals - gwbush

Dakmar  posted on  2005-11-19   21:01:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Dude Lebowski (#26)

yeah, i've noticed. what's up with that, anyway?

If Tomorrow Never Comes...

christine  posted on  2005-11-19   21:10:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Dakmar (#13)

As part of some informal research I'm doing, would you mind telling me if you like infants more, less, or about the same as do other males age 20-50 ?

I'm not sure what you're getting at. I prefer women who are in their 30's, who have at least a DD or more.

So many morons, so few bullets.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2005-11-19   21:28:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: lodwick, dakmar (#22)

I went to a friend of mine's support group meeting, and noticed that the psychotherapist had an incredible rack. It made the 5.00 parking fee worthwhile.

Seriously, I'm thinking of joining some kind of support group, just so I can go back and stare at this woman. I'm serious. This woman was endowed with an incredible body, and was extremely pretty in the attainable sense. Meaning, that she wasn't model pretty, she was average woman pretty with an above average body kind of pretty. She was probably my age or a little older, and from what I gathered, had a brain in her head.

I mean... Wow, the whole package... Oh wait... I'm rambling on...

So many morons, so few bullets.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2005-11-19   21:31:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Dakmar (#24)

Okay, now I see where you're going. For the record, Cartoonish boobs are not something I'm into. As a cartoonist, and artist, I cannot stand fakery when it comes to women.

When it comes down to it, a man will notice a woman's eyes faster than her breasts if she's attractive.

Getting back to this group meeting I attended for my friend... I was apprehensive about going to this thing, but I'm seriously thinking I could go to more of these things provided that one particular analyst was there. I mean... Wow. There is nothing more attractive to me, than a gorgeous woman who has brains. WRINKLY BRAINS.... MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmm

But seriously. Dak, if you're a chick, you already know the answer to this question and more.

So many morons, so few bullets.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2005-11-19   21:35:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#32)

I went to a friend of mine's support group meeting, and noticed that the psychotherapist had an incredible rack.

I'm trying to establish a baseline number for sheer mass vs many other mating triggers, such as suppleness, scale, and various nipple factors.

And I'm optimistic. See, I think you can be realistic and optimistic at the same time. I'm optimistic we'll achieve -- I know we won't achieve if we send mixed signals. I know we're not going to achieve our objective if we send mixed signals - gwbush

Dakmar  posted on  2005-11-19   21:39:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Dakmar (#34)

Oh hell... If I would have been smart, I'd have brought a digital camera and taken this woman's picture. I mean... This woman was absolutely gorgeous.

If you need an example of what kind of boobs I go for... Nadine Jansen is a pretty good place to start. That's about as big as my interests get.

Man... That sounded shallow didn't it?

So many morons, so few bullets.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2005-11-19   21:41:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Dakmar (#24)

What I'm trying to find out is if there is a correlation between men who like extremely large cartoonish boobs and the infantile mind, going back to childhood.

GFL on this one.

Your time would be better invested in clipping your toenails.

Lod  posted on  2005-11-19   21:44:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#33)

When it comes down to it, a man will notice a woman's eyes faster than her breasts if she's attractive.

It is imposiible not to notice someone you find attractive, the problem these days is that our leaders would sell have sold us out for a twenty dollar howdee-do.

And I'm optimistic. See, I think you can be realistic and optimistic at the same time. I'm optimistic we'll achieve -- I know we won't achieve if we send mixed signals. I know we're not going to achieve our objective if we send mixed signals - gwbush

Dakmar  posted on  2005-11-19   21:44:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: lodwick (#36)

Your time would be better invested in clipping your toenails.

At least I got some criticism, that's fun too.

And I'm optimistic. See, I think you can be realistic and optimistic at the same time. I'm optimistic we'll achieve -- I know we won't achieve if we send mixed signals. I know we're not going to achieve our objective if we send mixed signals - gwbush

Dakmar  posted on  2005-11-19   21:46:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#32)

She was probably my age or a little older, and from what I gathered, had a brain in her head.

Nice!

Ask if she'd like a head in her brain, and see how it goes...

Good luck with it, Tom.

Lod  posted on  2005-11-19   21:47:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: lodwick (#39)

Let me say this. Her auxiliary brains were spectacular, and real. Wow... This makes me sound really shallow and if she reads this website, I can pretty well forget about going back there. That is, unless she found my sense of humor a plus in my favor. Then again, my wife who also has a great rack might have something to say about my dating.

So many morons, so few bullets.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2005-11-19   21:51:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#40)

You aint shallow, all songs are about getting it on, you just need to stop listening to those awful puritans.

And I'm optimistic. See, I think you can be realistic and optimistic at the same time. I'm optimistic we'll achieve -- I know we won't achieve if we send mixed signals. I know we're not going to achieve our objective if we send mixed signals - gwbush

Dakmar  posted on  2005-11-19   21:53:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Dakmar (#38)

At least I got some criticism, that's fun too.

No criticism here...just cynic, stupid, commentary.

No blood, no foul, (or fowl), meant here.

Cheers, my friend.

Lod  posted on  2005-11-19   21:55:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Dakmar, all (#41)

Play Me

Lod  posted on  2005-11-19   22:10:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: lodwick, christine, Zipporah (#43)

Somebody Touched Me - Dillards!

And I'm optimistic. See, I think you can be realistic and optimistic at the same time. I'm optimistic we'll achieve -- I know we won't achieve if we send mixed signals. I know we're not going to achieve our objective if we send mixed signals - gwbush

Dakmar  posted on  2005-11-19   22:17:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: lodwick (#22)

I am rackless and lipless. but I do have big eyes and a good complexion. Does that make me only half feminimininimum????

CAPPSMADNESS  posted on  2005-11-19   22:44:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#35)

omg, you do like 'em big!

If Tomorrow Never Comes...

christine  posted on  2005-11-19   23:06:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Dakmar (#27)

uh..no, the square jawed masculinity must come with male apparatus. ;)

If Tomorrow Never Comes...

christine  posted on  2005-11-19   23:15:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: christine (#46)

Holy Cow Udders, Barman!

Those might just qualify for their own zip code.... EACH!

CAPPSMADNESS  posted on  2005-11-19   23:15:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: christine (#47)

the square jawed masculinity must come with male apparatus

does size matter?

Do I hear a fat lady singing?

Critter  posted on  2005-11-20   1:11:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Dakmar (#27)

Does Nancy Kulp do anything for ya?

I think Jethro found a bit part for her in one of his porno movies.


Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?

Flintlock  posted on  2005-11-20   4:49:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Dakmar, christine (#17)

but it's also possible for someone to be coyote ugly and loaded with hormones.

I don't agree, and I believe it's the proper ratio of hormones that tends to show on the outside.

This is a very interesting topic, and I've always believed there was a relationship between hormones and how masculine/feminine (and attractive) a person is.

I've never been the type to like pretty boys, for instance I've never found Tom Cruise attractive, instead I've prefered types like Tommy Lee Jones, go figure....

Diana  posted on  2005-11-20   5:29:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: christine (#0)

singular - Hormons

plural - Horesmon

still others are screemers

The mind once expanded by a new idea never returns to its' original size

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2005-11-20   9:11:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: christine (#46)

Great day in the morning! G-d bless Germany!

who knows what evil  posted on  2005-11-20   9:33:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Diana (#51)

same here. i prefer a more rugged look, although i've seen some male models with lips to die for who might be considered pretty by some. they too have that square jaw and angular bone structure i like however. brad pitt's face is both pretty and rugged i think.

If Tomorrow Never Comes...

christine  posted on  2005-11-20   10:37:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Critter (#49)

yeah, not too big. :P

If Tomorrow Never Comes...

christine  posted on  2005-11-20   10:39:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: who knows what evil (#53)

good warm mornin' to ya. :)

If Tomorrow Never Comes...

christine  posted on  2005-11-20   10:39:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: christine (#0)

'Hormonal' women most attractive

Yeah, I know nothing turns me on me than mood swings, being asked "Does this dress make me look fat?" and being treated to dead silence whenever I've asked "What's wrong?" [/sarcasm]

"If they ever drained all of the bullshit out of your average bush-bot, you could bury what's left of him in a matchbox."

orangedog  posted on  2005-11-20   10:55:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: orangedog (#57)

laughing! i never had pms. :P

If Tomorrow Never Comes...

christine  posted on  2005-11-20   11:17:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: christine (#56)

good warm mornin' to ya. :)

Well...it's 36 this morning, as opposed to 15 degrees yesterday morning; so we could say it's a 'good warm mornin'...post #46 not withstanding.

who knows what evil  posted on  2005-11-20   11:17:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: christine (#46)

Oh... Those are just about right. That's really about as much boobage as I could handle.

Now... if you want to take it a step further, google Milena Velba. That's just too much boob, even though, she is kind of attractive.

So many morons, so few bullets.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2005-11-20   14:41:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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