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Title: Sandy Hook Hoax "Medical Examiner" Wayne Carver
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Published: Dec 20, 2012
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Post Date: 2012-12-20 02:04:36 by wudidiz
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Sandy Hook Hoax "Medical Examiner" Wayne Carver
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#69. To: FormerLurker (#64)
Especially a man as fat as that medical examiner was. All that fat insulates him pretty good. God is always good!
Right. Plus, he may have been basking in the (imaginary) warmth of the (adoring) media. He certainly managed to charm himself by attempting to speak plainly which ordinarily I would applaud. But he was just plain smarmy and clearly taken with himself. He didn't seen to know that, while his office warranted the media attention his poor presentation clearly did not.
If you could only edit your thoughts and see the facts rather than your delusions, you'd be better off. If there's many, then you should be able to find at least one or two images that you could post here, right? I sort of suspect you work for the folks at Fort Meade, that or Tel Aviv... Oh good grief.
Oh good grief is right. But you know what they say, speak in haste, repent at leisure.
Just going to the market I see people in t-shirts and shorts when the temperatures are in the mid forties or above. Myself I think that's pushing it, I at least wear an outer shirt or a thin jacket, with jeans, till the temperatures are in the mid 50's or so.. It's a Charlie Brown Christmas... LOL I'll withdraw the statement about FL since I've decided that the NSA would probably laugh at the thought.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
It's a Charlie Brown Christmas... LOL Picture Schroeder with his head down on the piano....
Oh thanks, for a while there I thought my cover was blown. Now I can go to sleep without worrying over it... I was hoping to witness the burying of the manually activated debranching tool last night, as the spirit of mutual respect was rising from the ashes..... 4um is my home because I feel a lot of love from the good folks here. Feelings that are non aligned confuse and confound me.
Hibernate all winter if you want. I'm sure it would be a cold day in some dimension usually described as very hot before you or Ricky ever withdraw yours so I won't wait for it. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Hmmm. Eactly. I sense defensive and hastily posted replies that are needless. No one's stock will ever drop in my eyes because he or she failed to parry and thrust before the Sun rises.... In fact at Liberty Forum NewsReader once savaged me in a lengthy post that he hoped would warrant an immediate and detailed counterattack. "That's mee", I replied. Everyone laffed and all was well.
I may be one of the worst ones to give anyone any advice but when I find that I just can't get along with someone at all and know that no matter what I say they are never going to change their mind I will usually add them to the kill file. Or as some call it the bozo filter. Not in every case but in most cases. Especially with people who are disrespectful and who seem to be ineducable. edit: Just to be sure everyone understands what I am saying here, I am not calling either poster engaged in this contretemps ineducable. Only that some people seem to be and that could just be personality conflicts, I don't know. I just know life is too short for such things. 4um is my home because I feel a lot of love from the good folks here. Feelings that are non aligned confuse and confound me. I'll say a little prayer for you on that... Crabb Family Please Forgive Me (lyrics onscreen) ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
4um is my home because I feel a lot of love from the good folks here. Feelings that are non aligned confuse and confound me. Well here's a little Christmas cheer for everyone... Cheers to all y'all. You too, Shoonra. Edited for spelling. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
edit: Just to be sure everyone understands what I am saying here, I am not calling either poster engaged in this contretemps ineducable. Only that some people seem to be and that could just be personality conflicts, I don't know. I just know life is too short for such things. *bozo filter* No my friend, it needed to be said and in fact the idea crossed my mind not 20 minutes ago. And like you I concluded that the circs do not warrant such a drastic remedy, nor would I relish losing two interesting and passionate posters from my circle of trust. My concern is that this place could steadily degenerate into Goldi Land II. And then I'd no longer have a home, a sanctuary where friends share my happiness, my heartaches, my tears and fears, and then I'd be a lost old man adrift in a virtual sea, trying to avoid the net that is cast so wide that only the CIA could be the primary beneficiary.
Thank you my friend.
Thank you my friend.
Shoonra might enjoy this one more. I'm not sure if these guys are elves, but they're dancing... You're very welcome Dawg, glad you enjoyed it.
Neither would I. I don't think of either of them as bozo material, was just thinking that if they couldn't get along then it might be something they would want to consider. Or not. I assume they both know it is available so I really don't need to say any more about it. Wow James, you're talking about me as if I can't read your post. Gee whiz dude.
No, I know you can. And I never insulted you, did I? If I did it wasn't intentional. I said that I didn't see either of you as bozo material, only that you guys might consider putting the other one on bozo if you just can't get along. Having said that it is really none of my business what you decide to do in that regard. Merry Christmas.
You're taking this way too seriously. You need to watch the elves dance I think. Anyways, Merry Christmas to you too. Uh huh. GlM: What we can be relatively certain about is that officialdom typically tells us absurdities malevolently and you will act like the crab for them that pulls others back into the box if they try to think outside of it beyond the setting of your one-dimensional parameters. Well said and evidently true. Seems to me like he's acting. If he is he's definitely not the only one. Can you see that, Dawg? Did you see the "Sandy Hook Actors" youtube vid? Exactly. Here you go wud, you TOO can attract your very own elves! It's directions on how to do it from a guy on YouTube, so you know it HAS to be true. Thanks for being one. Liked that circle of trust vid -- except the part that said, "No buddies". Edited for spelling. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
I do but try to forget about it. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Is it time to get back to work already? Well, then: Linda Lavin (Alice) pic at mysticgames.com/famouspeople ALICE Original Season 2 Opening Theme 1977-78 LINDA LAVIN - YouTube [My note] Announcement at the 1 minute mark says: Season 2 to be released by Warner Archive before the end of 2012! Sandy Hook Mass Media Psyop: Outtakes and Bloopers Am not claiming that the first woman interviewed in the Outtakes and Bloopers video is definitely Linda Lavin. Just sayin' they look and sound very much alike, imo. If anyone else besides me thinks so too, would be good to hear that I'm not the only one. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Also, remember that the temps dip to the 20's at night, so on a sunny day with no wind, and the temps around the mid-forties, a typical New Englander would find that to be pretty mild.
#70. To: FormerLurker (#64)
Also, remember that the temps dip to the 20's at night, so on a sunny day with no wind, and the temps around the mid-forties, a typical New Englander would find that to be pretty mild.
#71. To: GreyLmist (#67)
Edited sentence 1 at section 1 and sentence 2 at section 2.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#72. To: GreyLmist (#68)
Many but none to you.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#73. To: FormerLurker, GreyLmist, christine, Jethro Tull, Lod, James Deffenbach (#63)
I sort of suspect your MesoWest site and maybe you too are linked to the NSA facility
#74. To: HOUNDDAWG (#73)
"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust
#75. To: RickyJ, HOUNDDAWG (#69)
Especially a man as fat as that medical examiner was. All that fat insulates him pretty good.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#76. To: HOUNDDAWG (#73)
Oh good grief.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#77. To: HOUNDDAWG, All (#73)
#78. To: FormerLurker (#76)
Oh good grief.
#79. To: GreyLmist (#77)
I'll withdraw the statement about FL since I've decided that the NSA would probably laugh at the thought.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#80. To: GreyLmist, FormerLurker, christine, Jethro Tull, Lod, James Deffenbach (#77)
(Edited)
I'll withdraw the statement about FL since I've decided that the NSA would probably laugh at the thought.
#81. To: FormerLurker (#79)
Oh thanks, for a while there I thought my cover was blown. Now I can go to sleep without worrying over it...
#82. To: HOUNDDAWG (#78)
Picture Schroeder with his head down on the piano....
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#83. To: James Deffenbach, X-15, christine, Jethro Tull, titorite, FormerLurker, Esso, GreyLmist (#74)
Oh good grief is right. But you know what they say, speak in haste, repent at leisure.
#84. To: HOUNDDAWG (#83)
(Edited)
"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust
#85. To: HOUNDDAWG (#80)
I was hoping to witness the burying of the manually activated debranching tool last night, as the spirit of mutual respect was rising from the ashes.....
#86. To: HOUNDDAWG, GreyLmist, christine, Jethro Tull, Lod, James Deffenbach (#80)
I was hoping to witness the burying of the manually activated debranching tool last night, as the spirit of mutual respect was rising from the ashes.....
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#87. To: FormerLurker, Shoonra (#86)
(Edited)
Well here's a little Christmas cheer for everyone...
#88. To: James Deffenbach (#84)
I may be one of the worst ones to give anyone any advice but when I find that I just can't get along with someone at all and know that no matter what I say they are never going to change their mind I will usually add them to the kill file. Or as some call it the bozo filter. Not in every case but in most cases. Especially with people who are disrespectful and who seem to be ineducable.
#89. To: GreyLmist (#85)
#90. To: FormerLurker (#86)
#91. To: GreyLmist, Shoonra (#87)
Cheers to all y'all. You too, Shoornra.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#92. To: HOUNDDAWG (#90)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#93. To: HOUNDDAWG (#88)
And like you I concluded that the circs do not warrant such a drastic remedy, nor would I relish losing two interesting and passionate posters from my circle of trust.
"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust
#94. To: James Deffenbach (#93)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#95. To: FormerLurker (#94)
"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust
#96. To: James Deffenbach (#95)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#97. To: GreyLmist, FormerLurker (#57)
FL: Yep, the entire town of Newtown is filled with actors, people who don't have a real life, and are just there to act for the cameras.
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry
#98. To: HOUNDDAWG (#52)
Dr. H. Wayne Carver
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry
#99. To: GreyLmist, FormerLurker (#67)
You don't look like an idiot because I question things of official presentations, FL. More like because you don't question their presentations enough and instead would rather mangle and twist most anything I and other questioners say or post info about on such subjects and then fabricate it into an unrecognizable mess.
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry
#100. To: wudidiz (#99)
(Edited)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#101. To: HOUNDDAWG (#89)
(Edited)
Thank you my friend.
#102. To: James Deffenbach (#93)
I assume they both know it is available
#103. To: wudidiz (#98)
Seems to me like he's acting. If he is he's definitely not the only one. Can you see that, Dawg? Did you see the "Sandy Hook Actors" youtube vid?
#104. To: HOUNDDAWG (#83)
-Alex Kurtagic
#105. To: wudidiz, Itistoolate, All (#59)
Am only referencing that quote above by me to note for the record that alleged Sandy Hook school-shooting victim, Emilie Parker, is reportedly a native of Utah. Found that info by further researching a video posted by Itistoolate. 4um video reference (YouTube Title: Robbie Parker Fake Actor Sandy Hook Shooting) at Post #29 of thread: Cabal Having Difficulty Telling a Consistent Sandy Hook Story Excerpts from Standard-Examiner (Ogden, Utah) at standard.net: Emilie Parker will be buried in Ogden "She was beautiful. She was blond. She was always smiling," he said. To the man's family, he said, "I can't imagine how hard this experience must be for you." Excerpts from abc4.com: Ogden girl killed in Connecticut school massacre [sic] Brad Schultz, a close family friend, said the Parker family moved to Connecticut last year. Emilie’s father is a physician’s assistant and found work in the Newtown area. [sic] This is the second tragedy for the Parker family. Emilie’s grandfather, Douglas Cottle, died from injuries sustained in a bike crash at the LOTOJA race held in September 2012. [sic] “They’re going through a really difficult time so that’s why my friend Alan Prothero and I thought it would be a great idea to put together this fund,” he [Schultz] said. The fund is called the Emilie Parker Fund on Facebook. [sic] Schultz said Emilie will be brought back to Utah and laid to rest in Ogden. If you would like to donate to the family, an account has been set up at America First Credit Union under “Emilie Parker Memorial Account.” The account number is 9056862. Excerpts from deseretnews.com: Emilie Parker family plans memorial, fund for fellow victims Numerous fundraisers already are under way for the young girl's family, who relocated to Connecticut from Ogden within in the past year, including a Facebook page with information about numerous community fundraisers, an account set up in the girl's name and other ways to donate. The Emilie Parker Fund will benefit all victims of the shooting. "The victims will live forever in our hearts, and we hope to create a memorial — an enduring legacy — for them in Newtown, as well as help rebuild and heal the shattered lives of all affected," the family said in the statement. Meantime, members of the Ogden community and throughout the state have joined together to help the family in various ways. Blair Christensen, Karlee Dutson and Kami Smith, founders of the online pop-up market website Brickyard Buffalo, heard of the tragedy in Connecticut and, learning that Emilie was from Ogden, wanted to do something help the Parker family. [sic] Brickyard Buffalo also is working with other vendors and local designers and plans to feature more products on the website soon, Christensen said, with the proceeds going directly to the victims' families. [sic] "It's neat to see the community come together," she said. [sic] Members of Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints congregations who knew the Parkers gathered Monday to tie pink ribbons throughout the neighborhood.Mormonly-covert Utah.
Websearch reference: Emilie Parker Fund | Facebook
www.facebook.com/EmilieParkerFund
Native of Utah, Emilie Parker was killed in the shooting at Sandy Hook Elem. We are seeking to assist the Parkers by setting up the Emilie Parker Memorial FundStarting at 1:32, Robbie Parker (alleged father of reported victim, Emilie Parker) mentions "two really good friends at home" who set up a Facebook page to help raise money for Emilie. Evidently, (Ogden) Utah is what he meant when he said: "at home"
By Contributed
The Associated Press
Sun, 12/16/2012 - 5:02pm On Saturday, Robbie Parker was one of the first parents to speak publicly about their loss. He told the world about a little girl who loved to draw and was always smiling, and he also reserved surprising words of sympathy for the gunman's family.
Updated: 12/14 10:17 pm | Published: 12/14 9:38 pm
Reported by: Cristina Rendon OGDEN, Utah (ABC4 News) – Love and prayers are pouring in for Emilie Parker, an Ogden native who was killed in the Newtown, CT school massacre.
By Emiley Morgan, Deseret News
Published: Wednesday, Dec. 19 2012 6:23 a.m. MST The girl's family also announced the Emilie Parker Fund Tuesday, the proceeds of which "will go to help all of the Sandy Hook Elementary families affected in whatever ways each family deems necessary," according to a statement.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#106. To: wudidiz, All (#103) (Edited)
Linda Lavin (Alice) pic at mysticgames.com/famouspeople ALICE Original Season 2 Opening Theme 1977-78 LINDA LAVIN - YouTube [My note] Announcement at the 1 minute mark says: Season 2 to be released by Warner Archive before the end of 2012! Sandy Hook Mass Media Psyop: Outtakes and Bloopers Am not claiming that the first woman interviewed in the Outtakes and Bloopers video is definitely Linda Lavin. Just sayin' they look and sound very much alike, imo. If anyone else besides me thinks so too, would be good to hear that I'm not the only one. Cross-referencing possibly related threads: 4um Title: Crisis Actors | URL Source: http://crisisactors.org/ Linked [Edit to note: currently] on the right-sidebar of the Crisis Actors website at crisisactors.org [Edit to add: under the Crisis Acting News header about 2/3 of the way down the page]: Created on Monday, 17 December 2012 Written by Mandy Loehr Following Friday’s horrific school shooting that claimed many lives in Connecticut, area school officials are focusing on ways to combat such an intruder situation that they hope they never have to encounter. An active shooter training program offered through the Hardin County Sheriff’s Office called ALiCE — an acronym for Alert, Lockdown, Inform, Counter, Evade — has been offered starting this school year for staff members at Bellefontaine City Schools and Riverside Schools. Sgt. Scott Holbrook of the Hardin County Sheriff’s Office has assisted with the training offered at these Logan County schools following the implementation of the program at several Hardin County schools during the past several years. “AliCE training is just a part of my responsibilities at the sheriff’s office, but I am reminded once again how truly important it is,” the sergeant said in an e-mail. Although there are Logan and Hardin counties in several States, this article is in reference to Ohio; the Logan County seat there being Bellefontaine. Riverside is a city in Montgomery County, Ohio, and is a part of the Dayton Metropolitan statistical area. 4um Title: The Newest Reality TV HIT Show: Sandy Hook
ALiCE training offers active shooter prep for schools - Bellefontaine Examiner [Excerpts]
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#107. To: All (#105)
Am only referencing that quote above by me to note for the record that alleged Sandy Hook school-shooting victim, Emilie Parker, is reportedly a native of Utah. Am referencing the comment again to note a pic at Salt Lake City, Utah's Deseret News source in an article about the alleged Newtown, Connecticut school shooting: That is the only source where I've seen the above mentioned photo (captioned there: A mother hugs her daughter following a shooting at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn. Associated Press): Cross-referencing 4um Title: Jonathan Lee Riches Impersonates Adam Lanza's Uncle, 'Jonathan Lanza,' Gets Arrested | URL Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/... This is a pic of Marsha Lanza: Am posting the two photos for comparison because there seems, imo, to be somewhat of a resemblance between the alleged aunt of Adam Lanza and the alleged mother of a Sandy Hook Elementary student reported at Deseret News -- enough (with some make-up, hair-extensions, and possibly airbrushing/photoshopping) that I wouldn't rule out yet that they could be very closely related or a Mormonly-covert actress, perhaps, playing both roles. Mormonly-covert Utah.
Parents only slightly more afraid for children's safety at school | Compiled by Lois M. Collins, Deseret News | Published: Friday, Dec. 28 2012 7:00 p.m. MST
Interview of Marsha Lanza (allegedly of Crystal Lake, Illinois and alleged aunt of Adam Lanza) starts at 1:07 of the 2nd video in the line-up at the top of that huffingtonpost article-page.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#108. To: GreyLmist (#36)
I saw the crisis actors at Sandy Hook it convinced me that it was a fraud. But here is an interesting fact that no one has ever mentioned. Gun control advocate Josh Sugarman is from Newtown Connecticut. Sugarman is the head of the top gun control organization in America. Oh guns are so scary. I know something about the zionist sugar interests in the Americas. So I always wondered why a zionist named Sugarman would be a leading advocate of gun control. The sugar people committed so many horrors, they would be the last ones you would ever want to surrender your guns to. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Sugarmann
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