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Title: Windows 8: The Animated Evaluation (Excellent presentation!)
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Post Date: 2012-12-22 02:30:01 by James Deffenbach
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#1. To: James Deffenbach (#0)

Amazing!

I had to stop when he got to the Charms Bar, how lame is that?

Great obituary for Win8.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2012-12-22   10:06:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

If that pos is too complicated for a man who was using SLACKWARE years ago it is most certainly too complicated for the average user.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-12-22   12:13:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Rather than trying to force desktop users into using an OS designed for tablets, they should have created it as a new OS for tablets and named it Windowpane, or maybe WindowPain... :)

They should have left the desktop interface of Windows 7 alone, or tweaked it into something a bit cooler, but changing it to a touch screen orientated UI which can only run one window at a time in the foreground is not much better than old DOS applications.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-12-22   12:17:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

A startpage.com inquiry 'does anyone like windows 8' returned 59M+ results.

8 many prove a bigger dog than Vista or ME.

I keep awaiting this olde XP box's death so I can fire up my now two year old i27 machine.

Hell, I might croak before this pc does.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2012-12-22   12:33:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

8 many prove a bigger dog than Vista or ME.

If it sucks and blows at the same time like those two did that should pretty much be the end of Microsux. There are better--far better--options and some of them are virtually free (download an iso, burn it to a disk, and voila, operating system!).

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-12-22   13:02:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Rather than trying to force desktop users into using an OS designed for tablets, they should have created it as a new OS for tablets and named it Windowpane, or maybe WindowPain... :)

If the truth in advertising laws were enforced against big companies like Microsux the officers of the company would be in jail for even calling that pos an operating system.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-12-22   13:04:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I don't get it. Why is it so lame?

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wakeup  posted on  2012-12-22   14:14:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Is there anyone, on this otherwise cutting-edge
4um, that hasn't moved to Apple?

It's Christmas for God's sake. Go buy a Mac.

New Year's Resolution:
I will no longer hate my computer.

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Dollar DVD Project Liberty needs patriot activists
to help wake the town and tell the people. Do your
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wakeup  posted on  2012-12-22   14:27:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Apparently a huge, multi-million dollar company can't make a decent operating system while guys with almost no resources can make a bang up os which is easy to operate and fun to use. Seems kinda upside down but that's the way it is.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-12-22   14:28:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Is there anyone, on this otherwise cutting-edge 4um, that hasn't moved to Apple?

It's Christmas for God's sake. Go buy an Apple.

New Year's Resolution: I will no longer hate my computer.

I haven't. I can't afford an Apple computer, never have even used one. I use PCLinuxOS with the KDE interface and I like it a lot. I have a friend who said he would help me run a dual os with a different Linux (Mageia 2) running in Virtualbox but I haven't tried that yet.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-12-22   14:30:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Maybe folks here are so impressed with Bill Gates' charitable nature and loving attitude about the world's excessive population that they want to support his little company no matter what the sacrifice.

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Dollar DVD Project Liberty needs patriot activists
to help wake the town and tell the people. Do your
friends and family know what you know?

wakeup  posted on  2012-12-22   14:35:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I have a Mac, I've just never used it...sad.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2012-12-22   14:37:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Maybe folks here are so impressed with Bill Gates' charitable nature and loving attitude about the world's excessive population that they want to support his little company no matter what the sacrifice.

Bill Gates can KMA. I am not all that impressed with him.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-12-22   14:54:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Give it to James.

Ho Ho Ho

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Dollar DVD Project Liberty needs patriot activists
to help wake the town and tell the people. Do your
friends and family know what you know?

wakeup  posted on  2012-12-22   14:55:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Craigslist here has several iMac 27s for 1-1.5K OBO.

I think that I gave around 2.2K at Frys two years ago.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2012-12-22   15:09:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Give it to James.

Ho Ho Ho

I agree. And I have a great guarantee too, applies to any type of technology as well as money. If someone gives me either one and I don't like it, I will give it back to them. Now how could you go wrong with a guarantee like that? >(;^{]

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-12-22   15:30:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

My kinda guarantee all right.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2012-12-22   16:16:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

This is very witty and entertaining, and informative, and reminds me much of a Lewis Black show.

My own attitude, based on bitter and repeated experience, is not to jump to a newer OS until it had been on the market for a year or so and other (more computer savvy) people had stumbled over all (or most) of the bugs and MS had cooked up a remedy. I was more than content with my Commodore-64 until the hardware started sputtering, then I switched to a PC and found the internet. The fact is that I could have continued happily with my old XP system -- but the hardware was dying and it seemed sensible to upgrade to a newer (bigger and faster) machine with W7 (same decision I had made years earlier when my Windows95 setup went Alzheimer). For the moment, W7 works nicely, I am learning its peculiarities and advantages and I'll stick with it till the hardware dies of old age ... by which time Windows may be into the double digits.

Shoonra  posted on  2012-12-22   16:56:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Is there anyone, on this otherwise cutting-edge 4um, that hasn't moved to Apple?

I've been using Apple machines since the Apple II. I'm moving away from Apple. OS X jumped the shark with Lion, and there is something seriously wrong with memory management in it.

Next home box will be Windows 7 or Linux.

"Mr. Prime Minister, there is only one important question facing us, and that is the question whether the white race will survive." -- Leonid Brezhnev to James Callahan

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2012-12-22   17:06:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Far be it from me to tell anyone else what to do but I always promote Linux because it is a superior operating system. And there are so many "flavors" (distributions or distros) of Linux that there is something for everyone.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-12-22   17:07:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

A startpage.com inquiry 'does anyone like windows 8' returned 59M+ results.

8 many prove a bigger dog than Vista or ME.

Vista wasn't half bad once they worked out the bugs. Windows ME has ALWAYS sucked, it was probably the worst OS they've ever released, till Windows 8.

Windows 8 will most likely be THE biggest flop they've ever had.

I keep awaiting this olde XP box's death so I can fire up my now two year old i27 machine.

Do you mean i7? You can still get Windows 7 online, load that baby up.

Hell, I might croak before this pc does.

My old ones are still kicking too, but I've put them away in boxes or they're just hanging around collecting dust. If you have an I7 I'd put that sucker to use.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-12-22   17:41:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

If the truth in advertising laws were enforced against big companies like Microsux the officers of the company would be in jail for even calling that pos an operating system.

It certainly isn't a desktop OS. It is as you say, false advertising.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-12-22   17:43:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Is there anyone, on this otherwise cutting-edge 4um, that hasn't moved to Apple?

It's Christmas for God's sake. Go buy a Mac.

I have multiple cores and lots of memory, along with tons of disk space. Everything is lighting quick, and I'm running Windows 7.

I'd chew my fingers off before I switched to an overpriced Mac which would do less and be less versatile as what I have right now.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-12-22   17:45:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

For the moment, W7 works nicely, I am learning its peculiarities and advantages and I'll stick with it till the hardware dies of old age ... by which time Windows may be into the double digits.

Same here. Unless there comes a critical need for a newer OS due to seriously cool features and functions which matter to people, rather than what MS is trying to force down people's throats, Win7 is the one to stick with.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-12-22   17:49:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

No, I should have said the Apple iMac27 souptidoo computer that's resting in a guest room. (There's a great Win2000 machine keeping it company.)

Sure does look slick and nice sitting there.

I've got some 4x4's cut to elevate the hutch over my desk so the sucker will fit, someday.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2012-12-22   18:02:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Bottom line: Computers suck. Apparently Bill "I'm gonna vaccinate society right out of existence" Gates has taken computers to the conclusion I envisioned about thirty years ago while messing around with Basic & Fortran WATFIV-S.

If it ain't got Spacley Sprockets or Coswell Cogs in it, it ain't shit.

Esso  posted on  2012-12-22   18:09:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

If it ain't got Spacley Sprockets or Coswell Cogs in it, it ain't shit.

I could look it up I guess but is that an oblique reference to the Jetsons cartoon?

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-12-22   18:12:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

No, I should have said the Apple iMac27 souptidoo computer that's resting in a guest room.

Oh. Never really kept up with what Macs are available these days. Thought you meant you had an Intel Core i7, which has four cores, yet execute as eight cores due to HyperThreading.

Intel i7 Processor

Sure does look slick and nice sitting there.

I'm sure it does. It'd probably look even slicker if you plugged it in.. :)

I just looked up the IMac27 and it does come with an Intel i7 or i5, has a nice huge 1TB disk and a standard 8 GB of memory, which can be upgraded to 16 or 32 GB, really nice huge 27 inch monitor, and bunch of other cool stuff.

So yep, that's one nice machine.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-12-22   18:15:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

...is that an oblique reference to the Jetsons cartoon?

Yes, gears rule.

Esso  posted on  2012-12-22   18:29:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

It'd probably look even slicker if you plugged it in.

I don't know if you saw the thread about a year, or so, ago; when christine posted a thread Guess Which Member's Office This Is - the office from hell was mine.

It's a bit better now, but not so much anyone would really notice. ;-(

BTW, I did plug it in, and yes, my beloved Microsoft Natural Elite keyboard and the Evoluent Vertical mouse appear to be fully functional/compatible with it.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2012-12-22   19:37:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I also advise this, also based on my experience: You've spent perhaps $1000 or more on the hardware, and on the high-end software, so spend another couple of hundred on the books and manuals that enable you to get maximum benefit out of your set-up. I mean buy several of the manuals that explain your current system and tell you how to do various tasks and tricks with it. For W-7 I got the Microsoft publications - W7 Inside & Out, Step by Step, Plain & Simple, the Dummies book plus Just the Steps, the Visual books, the O'Reilly The Definitive Guide, and Wiley's W7 Secrets. I suppose I should eventually get The Missing Manual. I buy them on Amazon, often used (must have been sold by someone who jumped to W-8 or to Apple), cheap.

But I did not get W-7 Annoyances and any of the others that talk about fiddling with the Registry. My advice: Unless you are really super-advanced with computers, do not even think of touching the registry, not even (or especially not) with those programs that claim they make registry editing easy. My local Rent-a-Geek is driving a Mercedes because of people who thought they could make one small tweak to the registry.

Shoonra  posted on  2012-12-22   22:07:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I've had an awesome idea!

I can Guarantee you the ability to downgrade your computer from windows 8 to an earlier version of your choice or different OS of your choice(With in limits restrictions apply) .

For the low price of 100 bucks!

I seen how it is done and am married to the one who can do it!!

_____________________________________________________________Never lose an opportunity of seeing anything beautiful. Welcome it in every face, in every sky, in every flower. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson ______________________________________________ I should read more of Emerson.

titorite  posted on  2012-12-24   1:20:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I can Guarantee you the ability to downgrade your computer from windows 8 to an earlier version of your choice or different OS of your choice(With in limits restrictions apply) .

For the low price of 100 bucks!

I seen how it is done and am married to the one who can do it!!

I know how to wipe that $#it off my computer (if it was on it) and download an actual operating system and the cost is much less than 100 bucks. Less than ten actually. Just download an iso file which costs nothing other than your internet fees which you are paying anyway and then burn that to a cd or dvd, depending on the size of the os and you then have an operating system at virtually no cost.

"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-12-24   1:26:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

It can be difficult to separate wise intellectual men from their money....

Yes indeed... I watched her find that hidden partition .. I thought the store partitioned it for her for some irrational dysfunctional reason.... Watching her work is a real treat sometimes.

Windows 8 is truly the best thing ever to happen I think.... It will FORCE users to seek other operating systems out of necessity. :)

_____________________________________________________________Never lose an opportunity of seeing anything beautiful. Welcome it in every face, in every sky, in every flower. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson ______________________________________________ I should read more of Emerson.

titorite  posted on  2012-12-24   1:30:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Oh god watching this vid together and talking about it again is given me horrible flash backs...

_____________________________________________________________Never lose an opportunity of seeing anything beautiful. Welcome it in every face, in every sky, in every flower. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson ______________________________________________ I should read more of Emerson.

titorite  posted on  2012-12-24   1:32:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Thank you. Although I am not certain I understand it completely I have been learning a little about Virtualbox and, assuming my understanding is correct, you wouldn't even have to burn the iso to a cd or dvd with that. But I should know more about it after I do some more studying.

"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-12-24   1:33:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Oh god watching this vid together and talking about it again is given me horrible flash backs...

BWAHAHAHA!!!

"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-12-24   1:41:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I watched 11 minutes of it. If Windows 8 is really this bad then I would short the heck out of Microsoft. I use ubuntu linux and like it. I also use windows 7 and it isn't that bad for a microsoft product. I have got burned by viruses in the past due to microsoft's holes and I have to admit I truly do not like them. I only use windows in any way because of my work. That may change soon as I am hopefully going to start developing applications full time for Apple's iPhone, iPod and iPad.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-12-24   1:52:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

To me, ubuntu jumped the shark with that new "Unity" interface they use. It well and truly sucks. I gave it a fair shot, used it for about two weeks and decided that's got to go. And I haven't regretted my decision.I use PCLinuxOS and when I get my Virtualbox, or when I learn what I need to know to use it (already have the app on my computer) I am thinking about also running Mageia 2. I guess there really aren't a lot of limits with virtualbox, you could use several different distros on it, just switch back and forth (without rebooting if my understanding of the way it works is correct). If that is true I may also give Gentoo and Slackware a go and see if I can use either of them--if I can use them I will change my user name to High Tech Redneck, ahaha.

"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-12-24   1:57:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I know some people don't like the unity interface, but I kind of like it. I like having more screen real-estate for the application I am using.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-12-24   2:17:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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