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Title: Windows 8: The Animated Evaluation (Excellent presentation!)
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Published: Dec 22, 2012
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Post Date: 2012-12-22 02:30:01 by James Deffenbach
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#16. To: wakeup, Lod (#14)
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Ho Ho Ho I agree. And I have a great guarantee too, applies to any type of technology as well as money. If someone gives me either one and I don't like it, I will give it back to them. Now how could you go wrong with a guarantee like that? >(;^{] Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi "If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken "..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
My kinda guarantee all right.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken This is very witty and entertaining, and informative, and reminds me much of a Lewis Black show. My own attitude, based on bitter and repeated experience, is not to jump to a newer OS until it had been on the market for a year or so and other (more computer savvy) people had stumbled over all (or most) of the bugs and MS had cooked up a remedy. I was more than content with my Commodore-64 until the hardware started sputtering, then I switched to a PC and found the internet. The fact is that I could have continued happily with my old XP system -- but the hardware was dying and it seemed sensible to upgrade to a newer (bigger and faster) machine with W7 (same decision I had made years earlier when my Windows95 setup went Alzheimer). For the moment, W7 works nicely, I am learning its peculiarities and advantages and I'll stick with it till the hardware dies of old age ... by which time Windows may be into the double digits.
I've been using Apple machines since the Apple II. I'm moving away from Apple. OS X jumped the shark with Lion, and there is something seriously wrong with memory management in it. Next home box will be Windows 7 or Linux. "Mr. Prime Minister, there is only one important question facing us, and that is the question whether the white race will survive." -- Leonid Brezhnev to James Callahan
Far be it from me to tell anyone else what to do but I always promote Linux because it is a superior operating system. And there are so many "flavors" (distributions or distros) of Linux that there is something for everyone.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi "If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken "..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
A startpage.com inquiry 'does anyone like windows 8' returned 59M+ results. 8 many prove a bigger dog than Vista or ME. Vista wasn't half bad once they worked out the bugs. Windows ME has ALWAYS sucked, it was probably the worst OS they've ever released, till Windows 8. Windows 8 will most likely be THE biggest flop they've ever had. I keep awaiting this olde XP box's death so I can fire up my now two year old i27 machine. Do you mean i7? You can still get Windows 7 online, load that baby up. Hell, I might croak before this pc does. My old ones are still kicking too, but I've put them away in boxes or they're just hanging around collecting dust. If you have an I7 I'd put that sucker to use. It certainly isn't a desktop OS. It is as you say, false advertising. It's Christmas for God's sake. Go buy a Mac. I have multiple cores and lots of memory, along with tons of disk space. Everything is lighting quick, and I'm running Windows 7. I'd chew my fingers off before I switched to an overpriced Mac which would do less and be less versatile as what I have right now. Same here. Unless there comes a critical need for a newer OS due to seriously cool features and functions which matter to people, rather than what MS is trying to force down people's throats, Win7 is the one to stick with. No, I should have said the Apple iMac27 souptidoo computer that's resting in a guest room. (There's a great Win2000 machine keeping it company.) Sure does look slick and nice sitting there. I've got some 4x4's cut to elevate the hutch over my desk so the sucker will fit, someday. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken Bottom line: Computers suck. Apparently Bill "I'm gonna vaccinate society right out of existence" Gates has taken computers to the conclusion I envisioned about thirty years ago while messing around with Basic & Fortran WATFIV-S. If it ain't got Spacley Sprockets or Coswell Cogs in it, it ain't shit. On a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone drops to zero. I could look it up I guess but is that an oblique reference to the Jetsons cartoon? Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi "If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken "..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
Oh. Never really kept up with what Macs are available these days. Thought you meant you had an Intel Core i7, which has four cores, yet execute as eight cores due to HyperThreading. Sure does look slick and nice sitting there. I'm sure it does. It'd probably look even slicker if you plugged it in.. :) I just looked up the IMac27 and it does come with an Intel i7 or i5, has a nice huge 1TB disk and a standard 8 GB of memory, which can be upgraded to 16 or 32 GB, really nice huge 27 inch monitor, and bunch of other cool stuff. So yep, that's one nice machine. Yes, gears rule. On a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone drops to zero. I don't know if you saw the thread about a year, or so, ago; when christine posted a thread Guess Which Member's Office This Is - the office from hell was mine. It's a bit better now, but not so much anyone would really notice. ;-( BTW, I did plug it in, and yes, my beloved Microsoft Natural Elite keyboard and the Evoluent Vertical mouse appear to be fully functional/compatible with it. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken I also advise this, also based on my experience: You've spent perhaps $1000 or more on the hardware, and on the high-end software, so spend another couple of hundred on the books and manuals that enable you to get maximum benefit out of your set-up. I mean buy several of the manuals that explain your current system and tell you how to do various tasks and tricks with it. For W-7 I got the Microsoft publications - W7 Inside & Out, Step by Step, Plain & Simple, the Dummies book plus Just the Steps, the Visual books, the O'Reilly The Definitive Guide, and Wiley's W7 Secrets. I suppose I should eventually get The Missing Manual. I buy them on Amazon, often used (must have been sold by someone who jumped to W-8 or to Apple), cheap. But I did not get W-7 Annoyances and any of the others that talk about fiddling with the Registry. My advice: Unless you are really super-advanced with computers, do not even think of touching the registry, not even (or especially not) with those programs that claim they make registry editing easy. My local Rent-a-Geek is driving a Mercedes because of people who thought they could make one small tweak to the registry.
I've had an awesome idea! I can Guarantee you the ability to downgrade your computer from windows 8 to an earlier version of your choice or different OS of your choice(With in limits restrictions apply) . For the low price of 100 bucks! I seen how it is done and am married to the one who can do it!! _____________________________________________________________Never lose an opportunity of seeing anything beautiful. Welcome it in every face, in every sky, in every flower. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson ______________________________________________ I should read more of Emerson.
For the low price of 100 bucks! I seen how it is done and am married to the one who can do it!! I know how to wipe that $#it off my computer (if it was on it) and download an actual operating system and the cost is much less than 100 bucks. Less than ten actually. Just download an iso file which costs nothing other than your internet fees which you are paying anyway and then burn that to a cd or dvd, depending on the size of the os and you then have an operating system at virtually no cost. It can be difficult to separate wise intellectual men from their money.... Yes indeed... I watched her find that hidden partition .. I thought the store partitioned it for her for some irrational dysfunctional reason.... Watching her work is a real treat sometimes. Windows 8 is truly the best thing ever to happen I think.... It will FORCE users to seek other operating systems out of necessity. :) _____________________________________________________________Never lose an opportunity of seeing anything beautiful. Welcome it in every face, in every sky, in every flower. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson ______________________________________________ I should read more of Emerson.
Oh god watching this vid together and talking about it again is given me horrible flash backs...
_____________________________________________________________Never lose an opportunity of seeing anything beautiful. Welcome it in every face, in every sky, in every flower. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson ______________________________________________ I should read more of Emerson.
Thank you. Although I am not certain I understand it completely I have been learning a little about Virtualbox and, assuming my understanding is correct, you wouldn't even have to burn the iso to a cd or dvd with that. But I should know more about it after I do some more studying.
BWAHAHAHA!!! I watched 11 minutes of it. If Windows 8 is really this bad then I would short the heck out of Microsoft. I use ubuntu linux and like it. I also use windows 7 and it isn't that bad for a microsoft product. I have got burned by viruses in the past due to microsoft's holes and I have to admit I truly do not like them. I only use windows in any way because of my work. That may change soon as I am hopefully going to start developing applications full time for Apple's iPhone, iPod and iPad.
God is always good!
To me, ubuntu jumped the shark with that new "Unity" interface they use. It well and truly sucks. I gave it a fair shot, used it for about two weeks and decided that's got to go. And I haven't regretted my decision.I use PCLinuxOS and when I get my Virtualbox, or when I learn what I need to know to use it (already have the app on my computer) I am thinking about also running Mageia 2. I guess there really aren't a lot of limits with virtualbox, you could use several different distros on it, just switch back and forth (without rebooting if my understanding of the way it works is correct). If that is true I may also give Gentoo and Slackware a go and see if I can use either of them--if I can use them I will change my user name to High Tech Redneck, ahaha.
I know some people don't like the unity interface, but I kind of like it. I like having more screen real-estate for the application I am using.
God is always good!
You are the first person I have seen say anything good about that Unity interface. As for room on your desktop, look at this: No messy uppy on the entire left side of my screen and I can make the icons so small you can barely see them or even completely hide them if I want to. That is good, but you can hide the unity interface on the side by having it scroll out only when you need it, and you can also make the icons smaller on it. I will give PCLinux a try though and see which one I like better. Since the next version of Ubuntu is being made to work on a tablet, the Nexus 7 specifically, it is still going to be an important Linux distro despite the unity interface, which I have gotten use to now.
God is always good!
Well, I think you will like it but let me know either way. I have no monetary interest in it, just think it is a great distro--first Linux distro I tried that worked very well for me and while I did have some help with it, it wasn't a daunting task to try to learn how to use it. I actually first started using it at .92 if I remember correctly and that was several years ago now, around 2005 iirc. (The original release was in 2003). I just found this, thought it was pretty good. I had XP until a couple of days ago. I was happy with it, but my roommate said that it was getting too old, so last week she got me a new computer for Christmas. It came with Windows 7. She knows ten times more about computers than I do, so I take her advice. And if there's a deal somewhere, she knows about it. The other night she told me to buy Windows 8 for $14.99 before the clock struck midnight. Now we're in the middle of moving everything from my old XP to the new Windows 8. It's not easy to navigate. Last night, for instance, it took me almost 5 minutes to figute out how to shut the new computer off.
Microsoft tried to get people to rush over to W8 by offering clock-ticking bargain conversions like that. But I was serious about waiting a year before switching to a new operating system. Think about all the short-lived computer systems that we've seen come and go: Windows Vista, Windows ME, Apple Lisa, PC Jr., Commodore Plus 4, etc. The hardware - specifically the microchips - have a working life of about 5 or 6 years. Manufacturers who come out with upgrades before the machines of the previous system begin to die of old age have a serious problem getting enough customers.
Does she hate you that much? LOL! Oh well, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year anyway. I might be wrong but I think you will come to think of that as one of the worst mistakes you ever made even if it was cheap on the front end. Sure, let other people be the beta testers. That is always the way to go, especially for folks who don't know much more than enough about computers than how to turn them on. I know a little about them, not as much as I would like to, but I wouldn't want to be a lab rat in a Microsux experiment, at least not again. My first experience with their alleged operating system was Windows ME which was the absolute sorriest things I have ever seen or heard of. Always having to call tech support for things that should just work and which almost never did. I came to hate that computer with a passion. You are thinking wrong. Windows Vista and Windows ME are not computer systems, they are operating systems, and Vista is still very much around and although slow, still functional. Windows 7 is basically windows Vista without all the security checks and better memory management. Vista however is still usable and supported by Microsoft. ME probably isn't usable on today's hardware and is not supported by anyone. God is always good!
ME wasn't even supported by MS.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken Not very well. They do not have a good track record with making software reliable and secure. Windows 7 is close to being reliable, but look how long it took them to finally get something decent. Way too long! God is always good!
All that they seem to support is selling new crap to us. Where are the Stones on all this new stuff? Who's lining up at midnight to get the new OS? Snooooooooze. It's lame. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken Where are the Stones on all this new stuff? Who's lining up at midnight to get the new OS? Snooooooooze. It's lame. Most of them were in line for the new iPhone and iPad. Microsoft’s days of people waiting in line for their stuff is over and isn't coming back. Apple will fall too, but not any time soon, they have too many loyal customers due to their quality hardware and software to fall any time soon. Most people don't know that Android is another version of Linux. Linux is taking over, the next version of Ubuntu is made to work on Google's Nexus 7, so now there will be more than one major Linux version that runs on tablets. Soon the smart phone world will also be dominated by different versions of Linux too. It won't take long after that until Linux finally takes over the desktop as well as dinosaurs like Microsoft die out. God is always good!
Good information - thanks. I'm just waiting for the definitive version of Linux, if that's possible with open-code. Keep all the posts and thoughts coming, thanks. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken I wasn't sure if you meant to be sarcastic with that remark. But I don't relish being a beta tester. I have enough trouble with a finished, supposedly bug- free, product; a prototype would completely baffle me - and I am not rich enough to throw money away on a buggy OS and then spend more to the get the next OS as soon as it appears. I imagine there are people out there who love to be on the cutting edge of computer technology ... but I'm not one of them. One of my peeve right how is that, Windows 8 having appeared only two months ago, all the computer mags have devoted their space to W8 and its stuff, no longer paying attention to W7. As I said in a previous message, most computer hardware lasts 5 or 6 years and a lot of PC owners are not going to pay for new systems until the day comes when their old PC finally dies and they MUST spend money for a new PC. Sometimes even improved systems die on the market for lack of purchasers - not because of any defect in the product but because most potential customers are determined to work their current systems to death.
No, I wasn't being sarcastic at all. Beta testing is not for the faint of heart and most folks just aren't cut out for it. I was somewhat of a beta tester with the Linux I use (and recommend) now, started with version .92 iirc. It has undergone some big changes since then and it is a great os. Give it to James.
#17. To: James Deffenbach (#16)
#18. To: James Deffenbach (#0)
#19. To: wakeup (#8)
Is there anyone, on this otherwise cutting-edge 4um, that hasn't moved to Apple?
#20. To: Shoonra (#18)
#21. To: Lod (#4)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#22. To: James Deffenbach (#6)
If the truth in advertising laws were enforced against big companies like Microsux the officers of the company would be in jail for even calling that pos an operating system.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#23. To: wakeup (#8)
Is there anyone, on this otherwise cutting-edge 4um, that hasn't moved to Apple?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#24. To: Shoonra (#18)
For the moment, W7 works nicely, I am learning its peculiarities and advantages and I'll stick with it till the hardware dies of old age ... by which time Windows may be into the double digits.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#25. To: FormerLurker (#21)
#26. To: James Deffenbach (#0)
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#27. To: Esso (#26)
If it ain't got Spacley Sprockets or Coswell Cogs in it, it ain't shit.
#28. To: Lod (#25)
No, I should have said the Apple iMac27 souptidoo computer that's resting in a guest room.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#29. To: James Deffenbach (#27)
...is that an oblique reference to the Jetsons cartoon?
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#30. To: FormerLurker (#28)
It'd probably look even slicker if you plugged it in.
#31. To: FormerLurker (#24)
#32. To: James Deffenbach (#0)
#33. To: titorite (#32)
I can Guarantee you the ability to downgrade your computer from windows 8 to an earlier version of your choice or different OS of your choice(With in limits restrictions apply) .
"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust
#34. To: James Deffenbach (#33)
#35. To: All (#34)
#36. To: titorite (#34)
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"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust
#37. To: titorite (#35)
Oh god watching this vid together and talking about it again is given me horrible flash backs...
"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust
#38. To: James Deffenbach (#0)
#39. To: RickyJ (#38)
"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust
#40. To: James Deffenbach (#39)
#41. To: RickyJ (#40)
"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust
#42. To: James Deffenbach (#41)
#43. To: RickyJ (#42)
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"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust
#44. To: James Deffenbach (#0)
#45. To: James Deffenbach (#0)
#46. To: Big Meanie (#44)
And if there's a deal somewhere, she knows about it. The other night she told me to buy Windows 8 for $14.99 before the clock struck midnight.
"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust
#47. To: Shoonra (#45)
But I was serious about waiting a year before switching to a new operating system. Think about all the short-lived computer systems that we've seen come and go: Windows Vista, Windows ME, Apple Lisa, PC Jr., Commodore Plus 4, etc.
"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust
#48. To: Shoonra (#45)
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Think about all the short-lived computer systems that we've seen come and go: Windows Vista, Windows ME...
#49. To: RickyJ (#48)
#50. To: Lod (#49)
ME wasn't even supported by MS.
#51. To: RickyJ (#50)
#52. To: Lod (#51)
All that they seem to support is selling new crap to us.
#53. To: RickyJ, 4 (#52)
#54. To: James Deffenbach (#47)
Sure, let other people be the beta testers.
#55. To: Shoonra (#54)
I wasn't sure if you meant to be sarcastic with that remark.
"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust
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