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Title: The Official Story Of The Sandy Hook School Shooting Is Riddled With Holes
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Published: Dec 31, 2012
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Post Date: 2012-12-31 11:41:43 by wudidiz
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#61. To: GreyLmist (#60)
I just read your comment today, must have missed it yesterday. I don't spend all my time on forums, I have more pressing matters to attend to.
Ok, then. I apologize for the curt reply but would like to suggest a quick check of the posting-date stamp logs before dashing off an unnecessarily overheated message. While I'm here again, am using this time to list some video examples for the record that I've noticed of children and adults outside that day in shirts and no coat/jacket/sweater/sweatshirt -- a number of them even in short sleeve, summery shirts. View at the YouTube sites: At least 27 dead, including 18 children, in Connecticut school shooting - YouTube Connecticut Shooting: Parents React Dec 14th, 2012 Connecticut Shooting Sandy Hook Elementary Teachers' Reactions to Gunshots - ABC News - YouTube US school shooting: Children tell of terror Connecticut Shooting Sandy Hook Elementary Teachers' Reactions to Gunshots - ABC News - YouTube Sandy Hook Massacre Exposed? (With Evidence) 1/2 Edited for video notations, time-stamp markers and sequence order. Also to add this child in no coat pic example not seen in those videos: ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
All the plates are nice and neatly covered... That ford is very dusty. That has to be the most awkward way to run I have ever seen.... I would have to shun the stupidity and run for my life proper. Love how that cop is too weak to pick up a small 50 pound girl and RUN!!!.. nope... Not these actors. ___FIRE
Astute observations, titorite. Thanks for your analysis of the pic.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Grey, your #62 is a terrific breakdown of the many examples of the
inconsistencies related to Sandy Hook. Take a close look at the picture you
end your post with. It's clearly staged. When one is running from an active
gunman, they run. Now, look at the feet of the female in the blue top. If she's
running she takes the smallest steps I've ever seen, the same applies for all of
them. Also, the cop involved wouldn't be holding hands and running in a line
along with the civilians. I'd think his training would be to place those folks
in front of him (he has a bullet proof vest on for crying out loud) and shield
them as they ran. This pic is a major FAIL.
This is supposed to be a picture of a December night in Connecticut. A body is being moved. I notice that nobody is cold in the winter night air... hell even the dudes coffee doesn't stream... he must have soda water in that cup... ___FIRE
More examples of children and adults outside that day in shirts and no coat/jacket/sweater/sweatshirt -- a number of them in short sleeve, summery shirts and even one male in shorts: Sandy Hook Elementary School Nurse Sally Cox EXPOSED Newtown Shooting FRAUD - YouTube At 1:29-1:32 boy in short sleeve shirt, female in white shirt At 1:37-1:41 several children with no coats and thin shirts, two in short sleeve shirts At 6:49 boys with thin shirts and no coats, one in short sleeves Edited to change paths for pics #3 and #4 that weren't working + added several more pics and made some changes in pic descriptions. Re-edited to add 3 more pics: ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Take a close look at the picture you end your post with. It's clearly staged. When one is running from an active gunman, they run. Now, look at the feet of the female in the blue top. If she's running she takes the smallest steps I've ever seen, the same applies for all of them. Also, the cop involved wouldn't be holding hands and running in a line along with the civilians. I'd think his training would be to place those folks in front of him (he has a bullet proof vest on for crying out loud) and shield them as they ran. This pic is a major FAIL. Thank you, JT, and for your very insightful analysis of the pic. Added 18 more pics and another video for the record at Post #67. Also, for a linked weather report and summary of those conditions throughout the day, am cross-referencing here Post #54 of 4um Title: Sandy Hook Hoax "Medical Examiner" Wayne Carver. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Not a stone unturned with you Grey. I'm bookmarking this thread. Lots of juicy morsels here, thanks.
This is supposed to be a picture of a December night in Connecticut. A body is being moved. I notice that nobody is cold in the winter night air... hell even the dudes coffee doesn't stream... he must have soda water in that cup... Good points. The temperature was below freezing there from 7 p.m. on Dec 14 until 10 a.m. on Dec 15 and the nydailynews.com article linked below shows the pic you posted, with the article time stamped Saturday, December 15, 2012, 9:47 AM. Published: Friday, December 14, 2012, 10:51 AM Updated: Saturday, December 15, 2012, 9:47 AM Newtown CT (Fairfield County) Hourly Weather Data For December 14 2012 -- scroll down to about 1/3 of the page for that day's report; Observed at: Danbury Municipal Airport, CT. That weather report is also referenced above at Post #68 in this thread via the link to Post #54 of 4um Title: Sandy Hook Hoax "Medical Examiner" Wayne Carver. This is an excerpted summary by me copied from that thread-posting for the weather conditions on that day: This is a link for the Newtown weather conditions on December 15, 2012. From midnight until the hour of 10 a.m., the temperature there was in the 20s; 26 degrees at midnight, falling steadily to 22 degrees by 5 a.m. where it stayed until 10 a.m. Newtown CT (Fairfield County) Hourly Weather Data For December 15 2012 -- scroll down to about 1/3 of the page for that day's report; Observed at: Danbury Municipal Airport, CT. Edited to shorten sentence 2. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
You're welcome, JT. Good to know that you think it of interest. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
It comes down to this. If you believe that an entire town that has been incorporated since 1711 doesn't really exist, and that the people there don't really exist, just because a few people aren't bundled up with heavy winter jackets in a New England town on a mild day in December where the temperatures at the time were in the 40's, well, believe what you wish to believe. We've been over the weather before GL, and you KNOW that the temperatures were in the 40's at the time those pictures were taken. MOST people have light jackets or sweatshirts on (including some of those kids you claim have "thin shirts" on, where in reality they're wearing an outer shirt over a long sleeve undershirt). One or two people have t-shirts on. I see that often enough when the temps are in that range, and not just in New England. I don't know what pleasure you derive from these gyrations, and I really don't care. But you are apparently obsessed with convincing people this had to have happened in a Hollywood studio, it just couldn't have happened otherwise. And JT, I'm highly surprised you're apparently following the "it was all done in the studio" road, where you actually live or lived in NYC, knowing how the people react to temperatures in that range. Not just that, but don't you think people in that town would say, "hey, that isn't what happened, we don't know those people, that isn't really Newtown", etc.? And IF "they" HAD decided to do this all in a "studio", going through the trouble of gathering all these people into various scenes, don't you think they'd think about what sort of clothes they "should" have been wearing? Seeing this trend of cognitive dissonance amongst those who I thought would know better, hell, I think there's absolutely no hope left for any of us. We have been defeated. In my opinion, all of this "lookie here, people are wearing this sort of shirt, so it MUST have been done in a studio and none of it is real", is a misdirection ploy designed to accomplish several things; A) Draw attention away from truly serious question such as "where was the rifle found, and was it really the same rifle that shot those people", and "how did Lanza get to the school if it wasn't his car that was found outside the school, but that of a drug dealer". Also, how did the murder weapon (as initially reported) end up in that car if the owner wasn't involved. Oh yeah, what about the person arrested in the woods behind the school, what's the story with that? B) Focus attention on a straw man argument which can easily be knocked down, not only diverting attention away from questions such as those described in A above, but also causing the general public to view any "conspiracy theorists (ie. those who question the official story) as being bat shit crazy. Now go ahead and launch your grenades and fire bombs, if you feel the need. Thanks you for your permission and blessing to fight back in this revolution against the tyranny Former Lurker. Indeed every single other attempt to address grievances of the US people has fallen upon deaf tyrant ears. If the system be to broken to fix from with in then a few grenades and firebombs from the outside ought to fix things up. Excellent suggestion on your part my friend. ___FIRE
A) Draw attention away from truly serious question such as "where was the rifle found, and was it really the same rifle that shot those people", and "how did Lanza get to the school if it wasn't his car that was found outside the school, but that of a drug dealer". Also, how did the murder weapon (as initially reported) end up in that car if the owner wasn't involved. Oh yeah, what about the person arrested in the woods behind the school, what's the story with that? The title of this thread is about holes in the official story -- not the only valid questions are yours above except when you want to point out that Newtown is a Satanist hub. Edited for clarity. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GL, do you not think these things out before you proclaim them as viable scenarios? Do you truly believe it possible that the Sandy Hook shooting was all an elaborate hoax televised from a studio location out in the Hollywood hills or something? If not, could you tell us what you are really saying? i guess at least one of those pics is a fake "...Drill before the event: A highly circulated photo depicts students walking in a single file formation with their hands on each others’ shoulders and eyes shut. Yet this was the image of a drill event that took place some months prior to the event itself...." Sandy Hook: US State-Fabricated Terror http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=62991 edit. I was out in the sticks for over a month...far far away from the media...while all this was happening. I take it you already know what I am just finding out. Did a search last night "terror drill at sandy hook elementary". These people have no shame using kids as pawns in their little games. And then expect Americans to give up their guns "for the children". "...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
If not, could you tell us what you are really saying? I've already explained to you before -- at least once and maybe twice -- that I've never said it was all filmed in a studio so I don't think I need to repeat that for us. I will say that the weather here was in the 40s yesterday afternoon and it was not warm, imo. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
I was wondering where you've been. Thanks for the link and your thoughts. They are terrorizing the psyches of the children with their BlackOp/PsyWar routines. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
So what ARE you trying to accomplish with all these weather reports and pictures of students in sweatshirts, with a few in t-shirts? You ARE trying to say that this was filmed or televised from somewhere other than Newtown, aren't you? Do you think the town of Newtown CT doesn't really exist? Because if it did, don't you think people there would notice if none of this really happened? Incidently, don't you think if there were a school shooting and parents rushed to see if their kid was ok or not, they might not have been thinking about whether or not their child had their jacket on? Like Alex at infowars ways, "there is a war for your mind." People peddling BS are front line soldiers in that war for your mind. Mass mind control on scale never seen before in human history is taking place right now. IMO Alex is one of the soldiers of the elite in this war for your mind. All I know is if Obama signs an executive order banning certain guns I think the shit will hit the fan and there will be a violent uprising to kill any law enforcement officer or soldier that tries to enforce this ban.
God is always good!
At what point do you think parents or someone might have reasonably given a thought to whether or not the children had their jackets on? At the time of the alleged shooting the temperature there was very near freezing until 11 a.m. You and Ricky seem to have a problem with a pictorial record of this. That says more about both of you than it does me. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Do you take drugs? Have you ever been in a life or death situation? You don't think about putting a damn coat on when your like is on the line! Sure the kids wore their coats to school in the morning, but then after they got in the school they took them off. God is always good!
There were 6 children alleged to have run out of the school at approx. 9:35 a.m., the time of the alleged shooting -- to Gene Rosen's house (4um video reference). He claims they were sitting in an orderly way on his lawn/at the end of his driveway...when the weather there was very near freezing until 11 a.m. (Newtown weather report reference for Dec 14. Scroll down approx. 1/3 of the page.); presumably having fled the school without their coats but not described as shivering from the cold. I'm supposing that's what you're talking about because, otherwise, the depicted children without coats were mostly shown to be rather calmly walking, standing around, and giving interviews outdoors some time after the alleged lone gunman reportedly killed himself. So, I'm not seeing your argument as explanatory. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Not true. At 11 AM the temperature was 39.9 F, and at 10 AM the temperature was 37.9 F, as per the official National Weather Service data for Danbury Municipal Airport. Do you think the temperature instantly jumped to 40 degrees at 11 AM from 34.0 F at 9 AM? Whether you wish to believe that or not, I don't really care, I'm just going by the official weather rather than some private website which may or may not reflect the actual recorded data 100%. Another mistake you are making is that the children weren't evacuated as soon as the shooting was reported at 9:35 AM. The building wasn't reported as "clear" till 9:53, so those kids weren't evacuated till after 10 AM. But, so what? The question is, do you honestly think nothing really happened in Newtown, and that the entire population of the town would go along with false reports of an event of this scale if it didn't really happen there, it was all filmed somewhere else as a hoax? From Past Weather Conditions for KDXR Tabular Listing: December 14, 2012 - 0:00 through December 15, 2012 - 00:00 EST I really don't care if you think the University of Utah is "in on it". Go find some other official source, ie. National Weather Service data, if you don't like Utah or universities in general. Thing is, most official sources require a subscription and are fee based, at least in terms of historical data. So most if not all of the official data available for free is only available from universities. But again, it's all irrelevant if you consider the fact that the entire town would need to be lying if nothing really happened there at Sandy Hook and if all of those kids and families were actors who staged the entire event at some warmer location, while forgetting that they needed warm clothing if it was supposed to be occuring in a New England town on a winter day. There are MANY real contradictions and aspects of the event which raise serious questions, but the fact a few kids weren't bundled up in winter coats isn't one of them. You are free to believe whatever you want, but if you wish to be taken seriously, perhaps you should spend more time on the serious issues rather than highly improbable scenarios which defy logic and reason. Before I answer your latest round of stuff, I'm going to test my handy-dandy "Video and Photographic Record + Analyses and Newtown Weather Reports" portable-template that I made in case those references get moved off the page with lots of postings in this subject. That way, I can access the info as needed with a one-click link of this Post # and so can anyone else who wants to check it or transfer it. Ping to notify those whose valuable input is included therein: 4um Title: The Official Story Of The Sandy Hook School Shooting Is Riddled With Holes [video and pictorial record + analyses and weather report postings re: the alleged shooting at Sandy Hook Elem.] Video and pictorial record postings: Video and pictorial analyses + weather reports: Weather reports are referenced as observed at Danbury Municipal Airport, an official weather station nearby. Contact that official weather station and friendlyforecast.com if further verification of that data is needed. Edited for punctuation + paragraph 1. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Perhaps you should take your own advice. The data I posted IS the official data from the National Weather Service, provided by the University of Utah free of charge. Friendlyforecast.com is NOT an official source of National Weather Service data. But like I said, you're squabbling over a non sequitur (ie., the temperature being different by a few degrees at 10 AM doesn't PROVE that all the police, town folks, and news media fabricated this event and filmed it off in some warmer location). Do you seriously think all of this could have been done without anyone in the town coming forward and stating that none of it happened, it was all done somewhere else? Here's this: This place has alot of 911 truthers here and we tend to distrust national "official" sources because we know they have lied before time and again and shall again too until their demise..... I am leary VERY leary of people that invoke officialdom. I may of been wrong about you just being misguided,,,,shit... I can be wrong. ___FIRE
That looks ok.. a bit long... I've skimmed through a good bit ..... it is interesting if a bit cliche in musical choices at times.. I'd like to see bullet point versions. Stuff good for passing around offices and such. If anyone reading this runs an office why aint you pumping this out in your friday social day emails? ___FIRE
So I guess any ole numbers will do, if they come from any ole source other than official ones, right? So titor ite, do YOU think the entire town of Newtown either doesn't exist, or that the entire town is lying and nothing really happened there?
I think it does not matter if I respond to you or not. ___FIRE
Unlike you, perhaps, I haven't suggested that everybody in the town was involved. FL at Post #1 at 4um Title: 4um Sandy Hook Cop in CT on the Contradictions, Inconsistencies & Gun Grab (best interview on the situation I have heard) A bottom basement B movie would have a more consistent plot and script. Unless of course it was a horror film where the movie provides a glimpse of what was REALLY going on, such as satanic conspiracies involving the entire town, along with the local, state, and federal governments. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
We don't have to go to Utah, home State of the Parker family, for an acceptable report of the weather in Connecticut that day. Danbury Municipal Airport is an official weather station near Newtown. Bridgeport/Igor|Sikorsky Memorial is also an official CT weather station nearby but when I posted that as a source from friendlyforecast.com (thinking at the time that you had objected to NOAA's reference of Danbury Municipal Airport, rather than the timeframe issues), you objected that Bridgeport was too near the coast. You said at Post #25 of Sandy Hook Hoax "Medical Examiner" Wayne Carver: If you enter NEWTOWN CT and December 15 2012, it'll give you the weather for NEWTOWN CT on that day, and confirms that the temperature was 44 degrees with no wind for the time frame of the press conference. Newtown CT (Fairfield County) Hourly Weather Data For December 15 2012 If you've ever been to New England and driven to the coast, you'd know that the weather conditions along the coast are always different than what they are a mere 5 - 10 miles or so inland. It's cooler in the summer and warmer in the winter, and there is almost always a breeze, even if there is no wind at all further inland. When you posted umpteen weather reports from Hartford, which is farther away, as well as sources like timeanddate.com and the terrorist-sounding Weather Underground, that was ok by you. And you posted the friendlyforcast.com link above yourself for Newtown instead of Bridgeport. Now you want to insist that your Utah/BYU site is the best go-to source for Newtown, CT weather reporting but I disagree. Nor do I think I have to squabble with you about it or provide a different source when people can make up their own minds on the issue. However, I did find this demo-graph from weathersource.com titled "Official Weather: Newtown, Connecticut" for station: Danbury Muni Arpt on 12/14/2012 that shows a maximum temperature of 44.0, an average temperature of 31.5 and a minimum temperature of 19.0 rather than hourly reporting stats. On a sidenote, besides the Parker family of Newtown being connected to the Utah region you've directed us to, so is Ryan T. Murphy who is a "native of Newtown, Connecticut" (listed under the Notable people header at that link) and "attended Brigham Young University". "While a student at BYU Murphy served as an assistant to then BYU professor Mack Wilberg" and "has since March 2009 been the associate music director of the Mormon Tabernacle Choir, working with music director Mack Wilberg." On another sidenote (since the alleged Sandy Hook shooting is being used to attack the 2nd Amendment like the Leftist version of the PNAC Neocon's "New Pearl Harbor" invocation soon before 9/11), I was watching a documentary recently about former CIA Director William Colby, iirc, that mentioned the Mormon Tabernacle Choir was being broadcast as Pearl Habor was bombed in December of 1941. It was interesting enough under the aforementioned circumstances, I thought, to make note of it here. Various edits for grammar, punctuation, clarity, readability + additional link and info in next to last paragraph. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Your just baggin on posters who ask and work questions which appear to threaten your control views of Sandy Hook. There's a picture of Obama posing with the Parker family...he's grinning ear to ear...the Parkers are animated like the plane to Disneyland is just outside. Sandy Hook is a psy opp - off a drill...its a con....don't be fooled stop ninnying.
Edit: Link removed by me | Vimeo video, 23 mins. Warning on Expletive-usage in the commentary. Tried to listen more than watch it due to lighting FX and such. Pinged titorite because it mentions neuro-linguistic programming, a topic he has referenced before in discussions. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
I do have an amateur interest.... I am flattered you remember this about me. ... :) One moment whilst I go have me a look at the link.
___FIRE
Well.... it clearly starts off with some patterns of it's own. Positive patterns of anti-propaganda... I am not sure how well it might be of use... I am testing it at the moment on otherwise intelligent folk but whom have fallen completely for the organized official narrative, I'll let you know how that works.
___FIRE
I decided to remove the link in case it was used unethically by anyone.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
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"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#62. To: FormerLurker (#61)
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I just read your comment today, must have missed it yesterday. I don't spend all my time on forums, I have more pressing matters to attend to.
At 0:21 children walking in a line with no coat
Girl in no coat and adult female in short sleeve summer shirt at 1:24
Girl in short sleeves at 1:31 and man at 2:06 in white shirt
At 0:44 girl in white shirt
At 2:20 woman in short sleeve summer shirt
At 2:08 female in white shirt
At 2:23 and 2:26 children in short sleeve shirts
At 0:22 boy in green shirt with scarf but no coat; 0:36 girl in white shirt
At 1:10-1:20 several with no coat, including a baby boy in green shirt
Baby in green shirt with no coat at 1:21; also seen in the previous video and the one below
Man in background wearing short sleeve summer shirt at 1:52
At 12:17 shirt sleeves, including baby boy in green shirt 
#63. To: GreyLmist (#62)
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#64. To: titorite (#63)
#65. To: GreyLmist, 4um, *The Pending Gun Grab* (#62)
#66. To: Jethro Tull (#65)
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#67. To: All (#62)
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Boy in a T-shirt, man in a white shirt, boy in an orange shirt
Girl in a thin, short sleeve shirt 
Boy in a thin shirt; last name: Nikitchyuk, nickname: Bear 
Female in a white shirt; Carlee Soto? 
Girl with no coat, thin shirt(s) 
Child with no coat, thin shirt(s)
Boy with no coat, looks like 2 thin shirts 
Boy in a blue shirt but could be a sweatshirt 
Man in a purple shirt, woman in a white and blue shirt 
Woman in a shirt with alleged Sandy Hook parent, male in shorts and a shirt 
Child in a short sleeve shirt bottom right corner, others with no coats 
No coats, female in short sleeves
#68. To: Jethro Tull (#65)
Grey, your #62 is a terrific breakdown of the many examples of the inconsistencies related to Sandy Hook.
#69. To: GreyLmist, 4 (#68)
#70. To: titorite (#66)
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[Link for posted New York Daily News pic captioned: A victim killed at Sandy Hook Elementary School being transported aftere shooting rampage.]
UPDATED: 26 dead, including 20 kids, in Newtown, Conn., elementary school shooting: Gunman Adam Lanza, 20, kills teacher mom in her Newtown home, drives her car to her school and opened fire before killing self
From midnight until the hour of 11 a.m., temperatures decreased for 8 hours far below the freezing point (from 23 to 21 degrees), then went to very near freezing (34 degrees) for 2 hours until 11 a.m. when it registered at 40 degrees but went no higher in the afternoon than 46 degrees for the 3 hours of 3 p.m. through 5 p.m. -- dropping rapidly from there during the hour of 5 p.m. (approx. sunset) to very near the freezing point again at 6 p.m. (33 degrees) and steadily dropping below freezing therafter to 26 degrees through [Edit to add: the hour of] 11 p.m.; with the winds and humidity impacting the windchill factor, which would make it seem colder than the logged temperatures.
#71. To: Jethro Tull (#69)
Not a stone unturned with you Grey. I'm bookmarking this thread. Lots of juicy morsels here, thanks.
#72. To: GreyLmist, Jethro Tull, All (#70)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#73. To: All (#72)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#74. To: FormerLurker (#73)
Now go ahead and launch your grenades and fire bombs, if you feel the need.
#75. To: FormerLurker (#73)
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a misdirection ploy designed to accomplish several things;
#76. To: GreyLmist (#75)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#77. To: GreyLmist (#67)
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#78. To: FormerLurker (#76)
Do you truly believe it possible that the Sandy Hook shooting was all an elaborate hoax televised from a studio location out in the Hollywood hills or something?
#79. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#77)
edit. I was out in the sticks for over a month...far far away from the media...while all this was happening. I take it you already know what I am just finding out. Did a search last night "terror drill at sandy hook elementary". These people have no shame using kids as pawns in their little games. And then expect Americans to give up their guns "for the children".
#80. To: GreyLmist (#78)
I will say that the weather here was in the 40s yesterday afternoon and it was not warm, imo.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#81. To: FormerLurker (#72)
#82. To: FormerLurker, RickyJ (#80)
don't you think if there were a school shooting and parents rushed to see if their kid was ok or not, they might not have been thinking about whether or not their child had their jacket on?
#83. To: GreyLmist (#82)
At what point do you think parents or someone might have reasonably given a thought to whether or not the children had their jackets on? At the time of the alleged shooting the temperature there was very near freezing until 11 a.m. You and Ricky seem to have a problem with a pictorial record of this. That says more about both of you than it does me.
#84. To: RickyJ (#83)
Have you ever been in a life or death situation? You don't think about putting a damn coat on when your like is on the line! Sure the kids wore their coats to school in the morning, but then after they got in the school they took them off.
#85. To: GreyLmist, RickyJ (#82)
(Edited)
At the time of the alleged shooting the temperature there was very near freezing until 11 a.m.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#86. To: GreyLmist (#82)
Time(EST) Temperature Dew Wet Bulb Relative Wind Wind Quality Pressure Sea level Altimeter 1500 m Weather Visibility Point Temperature Humidity Speed Direction check pressure Pressure conditions ° F ° F ° F % mph in in in in miles 23:53 26.1 23.0 25.1 88 0 29.74 30.24 30.23 25.23 clear 9.00 22:53 26.1 23.0 25.1 88 0 29.72 30.22 30.21 25.21 clear 9.00 21:53 28.9 24.1 27.3 82 0 29.72 30.22 30.21 25.21 clear 10.00 20:53 27.0 23.0 25.6 85 3 WSW 29.73 30.23 30.22 25.22 clear 10.00 19:53 28.9 24.1 27.3 82 0 29.72 30.22 30.21 25.21 clear 10.00 18:53 30.0 24.1 27.9 78 0 29.70 30.20 30.19 25.19 clear 10.00 17:53 33.1 24.1 29.8 69 0 29.68 30.18 30.17 25.18 clear 10.00 16:53 37.9 23.0 32.4 54 0 29.66 30.16 30.15 25.16 clear 10.00 15:53 46.0 19.9 36.3 35 5 WNW 29.65 30.15 30.14 25.15 clear 10.00 14:53 48.0 21.0 37.6 34 6 W 29.64 30.14 30.13 25.14 clear 10.00 13:53 46.0 23.0 37.0 40 10 W 29.64 30.14 30.13 25.14 clear 10.00 12:53 45.0 24.1 36.8 43 12 WSW 29.66 30.16 30.15 25.16 clear 10.00 11:53 42.1 25.0 35.4 50 9 WSW 29.68 30.18 30.17 25.18 clear 10.00 10:53 39.9 25.0 34.2 55 10 WSW 29.72 30.22 30.21 25.21 clear 10.00 9:53 37.9 24.1 32.8 57 8 WSW 29.74 30.24 30.23 25.23 clear 9.00 8:53 34.0 25.0 30.7 69 7 WSW 29.75 30.25 30.24 25.24 clear 8.00 7:53 21.9 18.0 20.8 84 0 29.75 30.26 30.24 25.24 fog 5.00 6:53 21.0 19.0 20.4 92 0 29.75 30.26 30.25 25.24 clear 7.00 5:53 21.0 18.0 20.1 88 0 29.75 30.27 30.25 25.24 clear 8.00 4:53 21.9 19.0 21.1 88 0 29.76 30.27 30.26 25.25 clear 8.00 3:53 21.9 19.0 21.1 88 0 29.77 30.28 30.27 25.26 clear 7.00 2:53 23.0 19.9 22.1 88 0 29.79 30.30 30.29 25.28 clear 8.00 1:53 23.0 19.9 22.1 88 0 29.80 30.31 30.30 25.29 clear 7.00 0:53 24.1 21.0 23.1 88 0 29.80 30.31 30.30 25.29 clear 7.00 23:53 23.0 21.0 22.4 92 0 29.82 30.33 30.32 25.30 clear 8.00 
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"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#87. To: FormerLurker, titorite, Jethro Tull (#86)
(Edited)
Post #62; videos and pic posted by GreyLmist
Post #66; pic posted by titorite
Post #67; pics and video posted by GreyLmistLink for Pic #13 at Post #67
Description Edit here to include an additional notation, after the semi-colon, for Pic #13 at Post #67: Man in a purple shirt, woman in a white and blue shirt; + child in background wearing a short sleeve shirt (maybe another shirt with long sleeves) and no coatPost #63; analysis by titorite of pic at the bottom of Post #62
Post #65; analysis by Jethro Tull of pic at the bottom of Post #62
Post #66; analysis by titorite of the pic he posted there
Post #68; Newtown weather report for Dec 14 and summary of those conditions for the day linked by GreyLmist
Post #70; Newtown weather reports for Dec 14 and Dec 15 linked by GreyLmist (with a summary printout of the Dec 14 conditions reported and also a summary of reported conditions from midnight through 10 a.m. on Dec 15) re: analysis of the pic posted by titorite at Post #66
#88. To: GreyLmist (#87)
Weather reports are referenced as observed at Danbury Municipal Airport, an official weather station nearby. Contact that official weather station and friendlyforecast.com if further verification of that data is needed
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#89. To: Itistoolate, titorite, GreyLmist, FormerLurker, RickyJ, randge, Lod, TommyTheMadArtist, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, christine, all, *Black Ops - Psyops* (#88)
"Freethinkers are those who are willing to use their minds without prejudice and without fearing to understand things that clash with their own customs, privileges, or beliefs. This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking; where it is absent, discussion is apt to become worse than useless." ~ Leo Tolstoy
#90. To: FormerLurker (#88)
(Edited)
The data I posted IS the official data from the National Weather Service, provided by the University of Utah free of charge. Friendlyforecast.com is NOT an official source of National Weather Service data.
#91. To: wudidiz (#89)
#92. To: titorite (#90)
I am leary VERY leary of people that invoke officialdom.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#93. To: titorite (#90)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#94. To: FormerLurker (#93)
So titor ite, do YOU think the entire town of Newtown either doesn't exist, or that the entire town is lying and nothing really happened there?
#95. To: FormerLurker (#88)
Do you seriously think all of this could have been done without anyone in the town coming forward and stating that none of it happened, it was all done somewhere else?
The entire event and ensuing circus is nothing but a pile of inconsistencies and contradictions.
#96. To: FormerLurker (#88)
(Edited)
The data I posted IS the official data from the National Weather Service, provided by the University of Utah free of charge. Friendlyforecast.com is NOT an official source of National Weather Service data.
why are you trying to misdirect people here with the weather for a location on the coast, whereas the weather for the town of interest can easily be found via the exact same website?
#97. To: FormerLurker, titorite (#93)
(Edited)
So titor ite, do YOU think the entire town of Newtown either doesn't exist, or that the entire town is lying and nothing really happened there?
There's any number of photo's which could be from the previous months school emergency drill...
or from the DHS drill at Sandy Hook fire station in 2010...or other drills we are yet to have dated records for.
The ident of Actors* present at this movie set at Sandy Hook fire station is captain obvious.
There's this creepy looking wife [small lady] with a large black man [apology for not naming them]
she has done several interviews ..even the pair holding some que card image of the child so named lost in the shooting.
The Women looks like she is about to cry....always....but does not.
she looks down alot and nods her head in sync with the narrative going on
the pouting/about to cry increases
Then she lifts her head and does this ...Boink,boink eye widening...like she was MK ultra'd....and then puts her head down and does another time period with that and pouting/about to cry.
This couple are assets with some time in preparation for the interviews.....obviously chosen for their superior ability to dupe the sheeple.
Parkervision is to goofy...so they don't keep rolling that con out .
and the other parents whose minds can't control the joy of the prizes they are getting for pulling this con off....they can't keep the smiling and happy feet still.
Like OKC...or the 86 field view CCTV from around the Pentagon...there is video from Sandy Hook school.
The State Attorney general should be demanding this be shown to the public....lets see masked Lanza enter the school and the first moments inside.
#98. To: Parrot with speed dial, titorite (#97)
(Edited)
like she was MK ultra'd
#99. To: GreyLmist (#98)
#100. To: GreyLmist (#98)
#101. To: titorite (#100)
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