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Title: In honor of the fiscal cliff and the new year, R.E.M. - It's The End Of The World
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Published: Dec 31, 2012
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Post Date: 2012-12-31 21:55:47 by farmfriend
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#16. To: James Deffenbach, cliff-dwellers, 4 (#15)
(AP:WASHINGTON) Squarely in the spotlight, House Republicans planned a closed-door meeting Tuesday to decide their next move after the Senate overwhelmingly approved compromise legislation negating a fiscal cliff of across-the-board tax increases and sweeping spending cuts to the Pentagon and other government agencies. In a New Year's Day drama that climaxed in the middle of the night, the Senate endorsed the legislation by 89-8 early Tuesday. That vote came hours after Vice President Joe Biden and Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky sealed a deal. It would prevent middle-class taxes from going up but would raise rates on higher incomes. It would also block spending cuts for two months, extend unemployment benefits for the long-term jobless, prevent a 27 percent cut in fees for doctors who treat Medicare patients and prevent a spike in milk prices. The measure ensures that lawmakers will have to revisit difficult budget questions in just a few weeks, as relief from painful spending cuts expires and the government requires an increase in its borrowing cap. House Speaker John Boehner pointedly refrained from endorsing the agreement, though he's promised a vote on it or a GOP alternative right away. But he was expected to encounter opposition from House conservatives, and it was unclear when the vote would occur. Boehner and House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, R-Va., arrived at the Capitol in late morning, and both bid "Happy New Year" to greeters but didn't say anything substantive about the Senate-passed bill. One of the more conservative House Republicans, Rep. Tim Huelskamp, had no such reticence to speak. "It's three strikes in my book and I'll be voting no on this bill," he told CNN Tuesday morning, saying the legislation would impose a hardship on small businesses around the country and falls short of addressing the need for cuts in spending. The measure is the first significant bipartisan tax increase since 1990, when former President George H.W. Bush violated his "read my lips" promise on taxes. It would raise an additional $620 billion over the coming decade when compared with revenues after tax cuts passed in 2001 and 2003, during the Bush administration. But because those policies expired at midnight Monday, the measure is officially scored as a whopping $3.9 trillion tax cut over the next decade. President Barack Obama praised the agreement after the Senate's vote. "While neither Democrats nor Republicans got everything they wanted, this agreement is the right thing to do for our country and the House should pass it without delay," Obama said in a statement. "This agreement will also grow the economy and shrink our deficits in a balanced way _ by investing in our middle class, and by asking the wealthy to pay a little more." The sweeping Senate vote exceeded expectations _ tea party conservatives like Pat Toomey, R-Pa., and Ron Johnson, R-Wis., backed the measure _ and would appear to grease enactment of the measure despite lingering questions in the House, where conservative forces sank a recent bid by Boehner to permit tax rates on incomes exceeding $1 million to go back to Clinton-era levels. In the Senate, three Democrats and five Republicans voted against the legislation. "Decisions about whether the House will seek to accept or promptly amend the measure will not be made until House members _ and the American people _ have been able to review the legislation," said a statement by Boehner and other top GOP leaders. Lawmakers hope to resolve any uncertainty over the fiscal cliff before financial markets reopen Wednesday. It could take lots of Democratic votes to pass the measure and overcome opposition from tea party lawmakers. Under the Senate deal, taxes would remain steady for the middle class but rise at incomes over $400,000 for individuals and $450,000 for couples _ levels higher than President Barack Obama had campaigned for in his successful drive for a second term in office. Some liberal Democrats were disappointed that the White House did not stick to a harder line, while other Democrats sided with Republicans to force the White House to partially retreat on increases in taxes on multi-million-dollar estates. The measure also allocates $24 billion in spending cuts and new revenues to defer, for two months, some $109 billion worth of automatic spending cuts that were set to slap the Pentagon and domestic programs starting this week. That would allow the White House and lawmakers time to regroup before plunging very quickly into a new round of budget brinkmanship, certain to revolve around Republican calls to rein in the cost of Medicare and other government benefit programs. Officials also decided at the last minute to use the measure to prevent a $900 pay raise for lawmakers due to take effect this spring. Even by the dysfunctional standards of government-by-gridlock, the activity at both ends of historic Pennsylvania Avenue was remarkable as the administration and lawmakers spent the final hours of 2012 haggling over long-festering differences. Republicans said McConnell and Biden had struck an agreement Sunday night but that Democrats pulled back Monday morning. Democrats like Tom Harkin of Iowa said the agreement was too generous to upper-bracket earners. Obama's longstanding position was to push the top tax rate on family income exceeding $250,000 from 35 percent to 39 percent. "No deal is better than a bad deal. And this look like a very bad deal," said Harkin. The measure would raise the top tax rate on large estates to 40 percent, with a $5 million exemption on estates inherited from individuals and a $10 million exemption on family estates. At the insistence of Republicans and some Democrats, the exemption levels would be indexed for inflation. Taxes on capital gains and dividends over $400,000 for individuals and $450,000 for couples would be taxed at 20 percent, up from 15 percent. The bill would also extend jobless benefits for the long-term unemployed for an additional year at a cost of $30 billion, and would spend $31 billion to prevent a 27 percent cut in Medicare payments to doctors. Another $64 billion would go to renew tax breaks for businesses and for renewable energy purposes, like tax credits for energy-efficient appliances. Despite bitter battling over taxes in the campaign, even die-hard conservatives endorsed the measure, arguing that the alternative was to raise taxes on virtually every earner. "I reluctantly supported it because it sets in stone lower tax rates for roughly 99 percent of American taxpayers," said Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah. "With millions of Americans watching Washington with anger, frustration and anxiety that their taxes will skyrocket, this is the best course of action we can take to protect as many people as possible from massive tax hikes." “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Man, that car sure brings back memories ! SS 396
Treason has conspired with Greed and colluded with Murderers to overthrow "OUR" country. "Bankers" - Kill em all and let Satan sort em out" !!!
Sweeping spending cuts to the Pentagon and other government agencies"? BS, they haven't even talked about any sweeping spending cuts to the Pentagon or any other government agency that I am aware of. Pentagon spending should be curtailed by at least half, getting rid of a bunch of overpaid consultants, useless generals and weapons programs that they don't even want. Pentagon spending will have to be decreased if anything is ever going to be done about the debts and deficits. Not that it is the only thing but something that should be cut and lots. My cousin had one of those and it was a hoss (375 horsepower iirc). I made a trip of about 18 miles on a very crooked road with it in 17 minutes if they were telling the truth (I wasn't looking at any watch, just driving). Wouldn't try to do it today but back then I was invincible (and dumb). Only reason I did it then was because my cousin had brought a couple of young girls up for a visit and one of their dad's said she had to be back home by dark. We got down to the county seat and the water pump went out on it so by the time we got one and got it in it was getting late. Bobby (my cousin) knew that I knew that road lots better than he did since I lived here and went down there regularly so he asked me to drive. And get back as soon as I could. I don't think those two girls opened their eyes on the way back, lol! One of my buddies had one and it'd lift the front wheels off the ground !!!
Treason has conspired with Greed and colluded with Murderers to overthrow "OUR" country. "Bankers" - Kill em all and let Satan sort em out" !!!
I would dearly love to have one today if I could afford the gas, upkeep and insurance on it. Or a Hemi Cuda. I ain't hard to please, ahaha.
Testosterone out the ass !!!
Treason has conspired with Greed and colluded with Murderers to overthrow "OUR" country. "Bankers" - Kill em all and let Satan sort em out" !!!
Your luck knows no bounds! You can buy one, this one is going to the auction block soon. One of a kind too. "...The only 1971 Hemi ‘Cuda convertible sprayed in “Plum Crazy” (and one of two originally built for export to Canada) will cross the block at Barrett-Jackson’s upcoming Scottsdale auction, as part of its exclusive “Salon Collection” of premium automobiles. The car in question comes with the 426-cubic-inch Hemi V-8 engine, dual four-barrel carburetors, the 727 automatic transmission, the Super Track Pak option and a power convertible top." auction date: January 19, 2013 http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1079713_rare-1971-plymouth-hemi-cuda-convertible-heads-to-auction Bet it brings $25K --- and it's a rebuilt total loss ! But it's nice ! Treason has conspired with Greed and colluded with Murderers to overthrow "OUR" country. "Bankers" - Kill em all and let Satan sort em out" !!!
Wow great song
The advantage of exercising every day is so when you die, they'll say, 'Well, he looks good doesn't he?'
I bet 25,000 won't even begin to touch what it will bring.
I know most of the cars go through that auction for real big money.
Treason has conspired with Greed and colluded with Murderers to overthrow "OUR" country. "Bankers" - Kill em all and let Satan sort em out" !!!
Nothing beats German iron. Horn works. Try the brakes. I get your point !
Treason has conspired with Greed and colluded with Murderers to overthrow "OUR" country. "Bankers" - Kill em all and let Satan sort em out" !!!
I heard of one guy that refused to sell one one time for two or three million dollars iirc. Cars that rare (one of a kind and no more being made) will bring top dollar. Not that I would give a million dollars for it even if I had lots more money than I needed but someone will have to have it and will bid high on it. I can't see it going for less than a million. More likely be 3 mil or better. 1971 Plymouth sells cheap for $2.5 million And that was in 2007. From the article I linked to: "When another '71 Hemi Cuda convertible was offered for sale at an auction in New York City in Sept. 2005, bidding went as high as $4.1 million, but the owner refused to sell the car even at that price." I was wrong about the price I remembered someone refusing, it was considerably more than I remembered. Man, I'm way out of the market !
Treason has conspired with Greed and colluded with Murderers to overthrow "OUR" country. "Bankers" - Kill em all and let Satan sort em out" !!!
I have a one of three 68 Ford Fairlane I'll be restoring this winter, hopefully. However, I doubt it will fetch 2 million at auction when done. lol better than i feared it would be -
#17. To: Dakmar, 4 (#2)
#18. To: James Deffenbach (#15)
#19. To: Lod (#16)
"...the Senate overwhelmingly approved compromise legislation negating a fiscal cliff of across-the-board tax increases and sweeping spending cuts to the Pentagon and other government agencies...."
"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust
#20. To: noone222 (#18)
"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust
#21. To: James Deffenbach (#20)
#22. To: noone222 (#21)
"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust
#23. To: James Deffenbach (#22)
#24. To: noone222 (#23)
"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust
#25. To: James Deffenbach (#24)
#26. To: noone222 (#11)
#27. To: noone222 (#25)
"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust
#28. To: James Deffenbach (#27)
#29. To: noone222 (#25)
#30. To: randge (#29)
#31. To: noone222 (#28)
(Edited)
I know most of the cars go through that auction for real big money.
"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust
#32. To: James Deffenbach (#31)
#33. To: James Deffenbach (#31)
Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit, because he doesn't come over your property and break your windows. - Dave Hebel Black Denim Jackets and Vests
#34. To: noone222 (#32)
I couldn't buy a chip of paint for one of those so don't feel too bad. Man, I'm way out of the market !
"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust
#35. To: Critter (#33)
Well, a million and a half is nothing to sneeze at, right? I was watching Gas Monkey Garage last night and they found this old Rambler rust bucket. And they spent lots of money on new parts, engine, transmission, new rear end, front end, everything and left that ugly, rusted out body as is. They sold it and even made some money on it but they would have never sold that to me, not with that body. I have a one of three 68 Ford Fairlane I'll be restoring this winter, hopefully. However, I doubt it will fetch 2 million at auction when done. lol
"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust
#36. To: James Deffenbach (#35)
I had a 1969 Fairlane, same body style, back in 1980 that had more rust than this 68 has now. Someone made a mess out of the body doing a bad job on what few issues it had, but it is still a far easier restore than the 69. In 1968 Ford made 1800 formal roof Fairlanes with bucket seat interiors, but only 3 in Highland Green with Parchment White bucket seat interiors. :) In 1977 I briefly owned a 1939 chevy. That was an antique back then. I was surprised to realize that a 1968 Fairlane is older now than the 39 Chevy was then. Damn, it's an antique! That must make me prehistopric!
Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit, because he doesn't come over your property and break your windows. - Dave Hebel Black Denim Jackets and Vests
#37. To: Critter (#36)
Good luck with the restoration. And I would like to see a picture of it when you get it finished.
"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust
#38. To: farmfriend (#0)
#39. To: James Deffenbach (#20) (Edited)
70-74 had a 69 hemi-RoadRunner tunnel ram 2 Holley 850s, Crower roller cam, TRW pistons, Hooker headers, Mallory dual point almost all work done by Chuck's Speed Center when they were still on 7th st. 1973 wife bought a stock 70 hemicuda dirt cheap at Bill Luke Chrysler-Plymouth. Of course gas back then was 23 to 45 cents a gallon. What I wouldn't give to have these two cars back today. Paid $1800 for the RR with just headers in 70 when it was only 8 months old and we got the cuda for $3200.
#40. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#39)
I bet you would like to have them back! I have driven just about everything from two wheels to eighteen but never had the pleasure of smoking the tires on one of those.
"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust
#41. To: bush_is_a_moonie, car nutz, 4 (#39)
1950 Merc 4-door sedan 1964 Riviera 1972 GMC Sprint SS 1967 MB 230SL 1975 BMW 2002 1979 Fleetwood Brougham All awesome, in their own right. rides I should have kept -
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#42. To: Lod (#41)
Here is the "car" I wish I had kept (one just like this one anyway, 65 model Electra Glide--first year of the electric start, last year of the panhead engine. They make beautiful choppers).
"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust
#43. To: James Deffenbach (#42)
Sweeeet! I want.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#44. To: Lod (#43)
There are still some available but that particular one is a collector's item now and pretty expensive. People don't bat an eye now asking 20,000 and better for one like it. I bought mine used from one of my uncle's brother-in-law and got it for 1,000. Of course that was many years ago (back in the 70's).
"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust
#45. To: Lod (#41)
I know. Isn't hindsight a curse LOL.
#46. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#45)
Probably the memory is better than the reality. But, they were great rides back when, and I loved'em all.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#47. To: James Deffenbach (#42)
I'll take it. In 75 we (wife and I - asked her to fetch the tools LOL) built a 27 t-bucket roadster - real metal body, not a kit. After about a year and half a friend and I drove it to bike shop where he was getting his bike worked on. The owner of the shop saw it and immediately offered to trade a really nice 56 panhead chopper for it. I told him no but he kept making offers over the next few weeks. We finally agreed that he would add $3,000 to the bike offer and we would trade. That was my first Harley. It was a hardtail/rigid frame and I am glad I don't own it now. My a$$ wouldn't be able to take it. We bought a 2000 wide glide and have spent a bit puting custom wheels, handlebars, paint etc on it. It was the bike that I had my accident on in 2002. The insurance didn't want to pay to fix it because it was almost $11,0000 but since we had it insured for $26,000 they didn't have much choice. Thought a few times about going out and buying a road king so our old bones could handle it a bit more but.... never got around to it. Wife likes the dyna too much anyway.
#48. To: All (#47)
Remember the old saying... you could tell if somebody rode a Harley because wherever they went on it, it marked its territory?
#49. To: Lod, James Deffenbach, X-15 (#43)
I want. no no no. we don't do HD. Ours is actually an American made cycle. Sweeeet!
The advantage of exercising every day is so when you die, they'll say, 'Well, he looks good doesn't he?'
#50. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#48)
see my post in #49 110 horsepower, 120 foot pounds of torque at the rear wheel
The advantage of exercising every day is so when you die, they'll say, 'Well, he looks good doesn't he?'
#51. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#47)
Those rigid frame bikes aren't comfortable but they have style. Make the nicest looking choppers. Soft tails come close but nothing beats a rigid for a show bike.
"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust
#52. To: farmfriend (#49)
That is very pretty but if I had my druthers (and the money) I would rather have my old Harley back and make a show bike out of it. I am pretty sure I know exactly what I would have done to it.
"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust
#53. To: farmfriend, Lod, James Deffenbach, bush_is_a_moonie (#49)
random Norton from a Mustang forum....
-Alex Kurtagic
#54. To: X-15 (#53)
Looks like a dirt track racer. My best friend used to do moto-cross racing and he was good at it.
"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust
#55. To: James Deffenbach (#54)
Meant to type "Triumph", I must have had Norton-on-the-brain.
-Alex Kurtagic
#56. To: X-15 (#55)
Oh, that's ok. I do stuff like that sometimes too.
"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust
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