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Title: Alex Jones interview with Piers Morgan on CNN. He did not do himself or the movement any favors. It was embarrassing to watch.
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Published: Jan 7, 2013
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Post Date: 2013-01-07 21:37:18 by christine
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#37. To: noone222, Paul Joseph Watson's Fb comment (#19)

Americans are being pepper-sprayed for protesting, having drone bombs dropped on innocent people in their name, have had their entire financial future stolen, and are about to have their only means of defense against tyranny confiscated by the government, and yet (a minority) of people are pissed at Alex Jones for being angry? We should all be fucking livid. Stop acting like docile, mentally castrated pussies and grow a pair. It's time to get in their face. Why should we speak in hushed tones and act all polite when we are being metaphorically raped in the ass every day?

christine  posted on  2013-01-08   11:37:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: All, and Cindy Sheehan's FB post (#37)

Cindy Sheehan I support a citizens right to keep and bear arms for self-defense against the government--would ban assault weapons for everyone (first the cops), but I support taking guns away from this dude--(what a great "spokesperson" you all have for gun rights). swampland.time.com/2013/0...iers-morgan-v-alex-jones/

christine  posted on  2013-01-08   11:48:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: john stadtmiller (#10)

I almost felt sorry for Morgan.

Did you "feel sorry" for him as well when he ambushed Larry Pratt of GOA?

I guess Alex should have just acted meek and let Morgan walk over him.

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

Bill D Berger  posted on  2013-01-08   12:29:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Bill D Berger (#39)

Dershowitz feels uncomfortable, are we supposed to care?



"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

hondo68  posted on  2013-01-08   12:52:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: christine (#35)

CNN or shows like it would never ask someone like Edwin J. Vieira to appear.

Yep, getting Viera on CNN isn't going to happen.

Most CNN audiences don't know history very well. The US was born in Revolution and the Right To Revolt was preserved for the people.

Here's a fun exercise I did some time ago. Take a look at the Bill of Rights in order and then think about how a rebellion is planned.

The First Amendment guarantees you the right to sit with people and discuss it.
The Second Amendment guarantees you the right to get the tools to pull it off with.
The Third Amendment keeps the Government from posting a snitch in your house.
The Fourth Amendment ensures that the Government can't raid your storehouse out of the blue.

But what if you get caught?

The Fifth Amendment allows you to remain silent and ensures you can't be tried twice for it.
The Sixth Amendment guarantees you a speedy trial so you don't languish in prison forever - guarantees you a lawyer and to a jury so they can acquit you.
The Seventh Amendment allows juries to set rules and guarantees common law courts and that the jury gets to try the facts
The Eighth Amendment guarantees you won't be boiled in oil or tortured as an "example to others".
The Ninth Amendment guarantees your right to go forth and do it again if you fail.

Its a very strange document laid out in a peculiar order.

A people unwilling to use force, once diplomatic efforts have been exhausted, in order to preserve or obtain their liberty deserves the tyrants that rule over them.

mirage  posted on  2013-01-08   12:56:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: christine (#37) (Edited)

We should all be fucking livid. Stop acting like docile, mentally castrated pussies and grow a pair. It's time to get in their face. Why should we speak in hushed tones and act all polite when we are being metaphorically raped in the ass every day?

Now there's a freaking tagline !

We should all be fucking livid. Stop acting like docile, mentally castrated pussies and grow a pair. It's time to get in their face. Why should we speak in hushed tones and act all polite when we are being metaphorically raped in the ass every day?

noone222  posted on  2013-01-08   13:05:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: mirage (#41)

I've never seen that version or interpretation of the BOR.

Hah and thanks!

Fred Mertz  posted on  2013-01-08   13:05:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: mirage (#41)

The Eighth Amendment guarantees you won't be boiled in oil or tortured as an "example to others".

You'll never be able to enjoy the yummy goodness of kosher-slaughtered deep fried Esso.

On a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2013-01-08   13:06:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: mirage (#41)

The First Amendment guarantees you the right to sit with people and discuss it. The Second Amendment guarantees you the right to get the tools to pull it off with. The Third Amendment keeps the Government from posting a snitch in your house. The Fourth Amendment ensures that the Government can't raid your storehouse out of the blue.

But what if you get caught?

The Fifth Amendment allows you to remain silent and ensures you can't be tried twice for it. The Sixth Amendment guarantees you a speedy trial so you don't languish in prison forever - guarantees you a lawyer and to a jury so they can acquit you. The Seventh Amendment allows juries to set rules and guarantees common law courts and that the jury gets to try the facts The Eighth Amendment guarantees you won't be boiled in oil or tortured as an "example to others". The Ninth Amendment guarantees your right to go forth and do it again if you fail.

Its a very strange document laid out in a peculiar order.

Brilliant.

We should all be fucking livid. Stop acting like docile, mentally castrated pussies and grow a pair. It's time to get in their face. Why should we speak in hushed tones and act all polite when we are being metaphorically raped in the ass every day?

noone222  posted on  2013-01-08   13:19:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Bill D Berger (#39) (Edited)

Did you "feel sorry" for him as well when he ambushed Larry Pratt of GOA?

I have known Larry as long as I have known Jones. It was Morgan that did himself no favors by trying to belittle him. He made himself look bad. Jones had a pefect opportunity to slam dunk him. There is a way to debate. You do it like any politician. You acknowledge their point and continue with what you want to make a point about. He was "acting" for his audience. Not trying to convince Piers audience was a mistake. People are conditioned to vote for the best actor or performer. Sad to say but it is what it is. It's called situation awareness. He came off like a complete ass***e. Years ago Mark Koernke and myself did a couple interviews/ He did Sam Donaldson of ABC evening news and I did McNeil/Leher Report on PBS. I told Mark to dress up and kill Donaldson with kindness and smiles. He did and it and destroyed Donaldson. This was on the issue of Militia of which was a powder keg. We did this to perfection. Marks interview was live and mine was taped and they still could'nt make me look bad. The AJ/PM circus was an abject disaster.

john stadtmiller  posted on  2013-01-08   13:52:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: john stadtmiller (#46)

He did and it and destroyed Donaldson.

AJ does his homework, and I'm always impressed with his recall on a pretty wide range of issues. He's got very little self control however, and his lack of self- possession often reveals itself at critical moments and in critical encounters.

I don't harbor some of the darker suspicions of this man that some hold, but at this juncture I'm patronizing cooler heads as far as sources of information go. A little less bullhorn and a little less bull is in order.

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. - H. L. Mencken

randge  posted on  2013-01-08   14:36:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: john stadtmiller (#46)

He was "acting" for his audience. Not trying to convince Piers audience was a mistake. People are conditioned to vote for the best actor or performer. Sad to say but it is what it is. It's called situation awareness. He came off like a complete ass***e. Years ago Mark Koernke and myself did a couple interviews/ He did Sam Donaldson of ABC evening news and I did McNeil/Leher Report on PBS. I told Mark to dress up and kill Donaldson with kindness and smiles. He did and it and destroyed Donaldson. This was on the issue of Militia of which was a powder keg. We did this to perfection.

1st off, you should admit that you don't like Jones. Jones competes with your network so knowing him and Larry Pratt the same length of time really has no bearing on anything. Piers Morgan ate Pratt's lunch, and if anything Jones ate his own lunch, but he didn't let Piers Morgan run all over him like he did Pratt.

2ndly, you say Jones was "acting" for his audience and maybe he was. However, you mention dressing Koernke up and coaching him to respond with nice talk and smiles. Isn't that "acting" ?

Look John, you and Jones have different styles for sure. I actually prefer your style to his, but I'd be a liar if I didn't admit that I sometimes might haul off and punch somebody's lights out when I'm fucking sick of yacking about something. Whether one or the other of you two guys (Jones or You) is more productive remains to be seen. I don't hold out much hope for you two to ever see eye to eye (though I wish that were different). But I do know this much about the two of you. Neither of you are gonna give up your guns because Obama or the entire gang of thugs in D.C. order it.

Piers Morgan's show on CNN doesn't have a very large audience. His audience last evening may have been more Alex Jones listeners/viewers than those of Piers Morgan. Whatever the viewership was composed of, gun owners left or right are fairly certain of their right to keep and bear arms and their determination to turn them in or not will not have been affected by Jones' big mouth.

Maybe Jones witnessed the treatment given to Pratt and decided to do the same to Morgan. I know that Morgan abused Pratt without concern for the audience or truth. Jones may have abused the audience but he did it with the truth.

I have had times in my life where I was so pissed off that I welcomed the ass- whippin if the other guy could deliver it, haven't you ?

Last of all, I don't think it hurts anything for an enemy to think I'm a little crazy !

We should all be fucking livid. Stop acting like docile, mentally castrated pussies and grow a pair. It's time to get in their face. Why should we speak in hushed tones and act all polite when we are being metaphorically raped in the ass every day?

noone222  posted on  2013-01-08   14:39:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: noone222 (#48) (Edited)

I highly dislike jones.

The y2k broadcast alone should of had him removed from he air.

The trinidad incident demostraited his complete untrustworthyness.

The parking lot incident shown him to be a petty liar and a weak fighter. LOL

The Austin gun show protest was distressing and eye opening for many.

The charlie sheen thing... that got ratings through antics.

But did little to oppose the tyranny...

in fact I think it made the tyranny lol... which I loath because the system as it stands is foul and corrupted. It uses controled media. Propaganda. Tools like alex jones and Rand paul to identify dissidents and contain them through their medias of their choice. So I am not very surprised at all by this latest ill performance on Ajs part. He serves the tyranny well to have him puppeted around as a kind of leader.. He has even made front page yahoo. But is he really doing all that he can in opposition of the tyranny? Or has he done more to help it... That's an opinion call I guess... for now...

I'm still a very big Jack Blood fan. I even got another fellow turned on to deadline not so long ago. :)

I hear John Stadtmiller is pretty enlightening too but I wouldn't know as I have never listened to his show.

___FIRE

titorite  posted on  2013-01-08   16:01:32 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: noone222 (#48)

Last of all, I don't think it hurts anything for an enemy to think I'm a little crazy !

You missed my point. The point is Pratt and Jones. The battle for hearts and minds is most important. Any opportunity to demonstate to people the soundness of your arguments is what you are really after. "Jones may have abused the audience but he did it with the truth." They couldn't hear the truth because it was lost in the the theater and drama. Otherwise why do it. Yes you are correct, I don't like the man. It was the movement that he hurt.I was was one of the people that signed his petition.Why,because I hate him? BTW, He lied again. He is not on 140 radio stations, he is on thirty eight stations. Otherwise that petition would have at least ten times the signers and he pays to be on those stations.

john stadtmiller  posted on  2013-01-08   16:20:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Esso (#44)

You'll never be able to enjoy the yummy goodness of kosher-slaughtered deep fried Esso.

hehehehe. funny.

man, alex is being lambasted all over the net today. i'm seeing comments about him from otherwise silent on things political folks on Facebook. he did us no favors.

christine  posted on  2013-01-09   1:15:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: john stadtmiller (#46)

john, i totally agree....in addition to helping the gun controllers argument, alex also helped the promulgators of the 9/11 LIE.

it was a disaster. it really turned me off.

christine  posted on  2013-01-09   1:27:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: john stadtmiller (#50)

I agree that the battle for hearts and minds is the goal. I support both yours and AJ's efforts to attain the goal. I also wish that we could all get along well enough to establish a huge contingent in opposition to the globalists.

We should all be fucking livid. Stop acting like docile, mentally castrated pussies and grow a pair. It's time to get in their face. Why should we speak in hushed tones and act all polite when we are being metaphorically raped in the ass every day?

noone222  posted on  2013-01-09   8:25:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: noone222, 4 (#53)

I agree that the battle for hearts and minds is the goal. I support both yours and AJ's efforts to attain the goal. I also wish that we could all get along well enough to establish a huge contingent in opposition to the globalists.

Big amen.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-01-09   8:35:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Lod (#54)

Thanks Lod !

We should all be fucking livid. Stop acting like docile, mentally castrated pussies and grow a pair. It's time to get in their face. Why should we speak in hushed tones and act all polite when we are being metaphorically raped in the ass every day?

noone222  posted on  2013-01-09   9:11:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: christine (#52)

....in addition to helping the gun controllers argument, alex also helped the promulgators of the 9/11 LIE.

it was a disaster. it really turned me off.

When I watched that "interview", a horrible sense of dread came over me causing me to realize exactly how far gone this country is.

The people working to enslave & destroy this country are so very skilled, and 99.9% of the K-12 prison/indoctrinated dumbed-down sheeple are far too weak to resist it.

I often wonder how I and most of the 4um posters were able to resist falling victim to the propaganda & brainwashing like everyone else has.

It certainly would be a lot easier being a member of the herd, right up until the time you're led into the slaughterhouse, I guess.

On a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2013-01-09   9:35:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Esso (#56)

i completely agree. i have often wondered the same thing about our being able to resist and not fall prey to the propaganda. guess we're special. ;)

christine  posted on  2013-01-09   12:24:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Lod (#54) (Edited)

A 2nd viewing of AJs "interview" with the British s'bag has me on the fence. No, AJ isn't our best spokesman, however, knowing that this foreign interloper wants our guns confiscated, and he was never there to "debate" the issue of gun control, anger was the proper emotion. It's the 4th quarter and we're down 4 touchdowns. Kicking over a few chairs works for me.

EDIT: Iowa lawmaker calls for retroactive gun ban, confiscation of semi-automatic weapons

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/09/iowa-lawmaker-calls-for- retroactive-gun-bans-confiscations-of-semi-automatic-weapons/#ixzz2HV8tyzyh">

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-01-09   12:39:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Jethro Tull (#58)

Kicking over a few chairs works for me.

Well this'll have you kicking over a few chairs. Whatever you think about AJ's performance, this is damned well over the top. These smug mothers think they have the right to issue threats over the national airwaves.

Piers Morgan and Guests Discuss Shooting Alex Jones

Daily Beast writer Buzz Bissinger says Piers Morgan should “pop” Alex Jones with a semi-automatic weapon.

Aaron Dykes Infowars.com January 8, 2013

CNN and the gun grabbing media are now calling for Alex Jones to be shot the day after his heated appearance with Piers Morgan.

In a segment on Piers Morgan’s CNN program, sports columnist for the Daily Beast, Buzz Bissinger, shockingly states:

“I don’t care what the justification is that you’re allowed in this country to own a semi-automatic weapon – much less a handgun. But what do you need a semi- automatic weapon for? The only reason I think you’d need it is, Piers, challenge Alex Jones to a boxing match, show up with a semi-automatic that you got legally and pop him.”

Abby Huntsman (Huffington Post) : “I’d love to see that… [laughter] in uniform.”

Piers Morgan: “I’ll borrow my brothers uniform.”

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. - H. L. Mencken

randge  posted on  2013-01-09   13:58:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: randge (#59)

“I don’t care what the justification is that you’re allowed in this country to own a semi-automatic weapon – much less a handgun. But what do you need a semi- automatic weapon for? The only reason I think you’d need it is, Piers, challenge Alex Jones to a boxing match, show up with a semi-automatic that you got legally and pop him.”

Abby Huntsman (Huffington Post) : “I’d love to see that… [laughter] in uniform.”

Piers Morgan: “I’ll borrow my brothers uniform.”

Stupid, loathesome eftards.


"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-01-09   14:02:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: randge, 4 (#59)

randge, Buzz Bissinger *was* a Philly sports talk show host until he was fired for cussing on air. He's a multiple offender. He admits to "anger issues" for which he is taking meds. Coming from him, I'm not the least be surprised that he'd like to see Jones killed, and it does illustrate who and what we're fighting. It's no longer about debate style with these Marxists, it' about the survival of our Republic. We all knew this day would come and it has. To offer civility to Bissinger or Morgan is to be a fool.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-01-09   14:09:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Jethro Tull (#61)

We all knew this day would come and it has. To offer civility to Bissinger or Morgan is to be a fool.

That's pretty much my take.

I've never wished for this day because I have been hopeful that enough people waking up would act as a deterrent to a not so civil war.

Looks like I was hoping against hope.

We should all be fucking livid. Stop acting like docile, mentally castrated pussies and grow a pair. It's time to get in their face. Why should we speak in hushed tones and act all polite when we are being metaphorically raped in the ass every day?

noone222  posted on  2013-01-09   14:17:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: noone222 (#62)

Agree noone. I can't say I'm in the least bit afraid. Terribly disappointed, but not afraid. Good luck to you good folk down there.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-01-09   14:26:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Jethro Tull (#63)

Good luck to you good folk down there.

Same to you and yours. Where I live the establishment/officials/law enforcement are all pro-gun.

We should all be fucking livid. Stop acting like docile, mentally castrated pussies and grow a pair. It's time to get in their face. Why should we speak in hushed tones and act all polite when we are being metaphorically raped in the ass every day?

noone222  posted on  2013-01-09   15:30:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Jethro Tull (#63)

I can't say I'm in the least bit afraid.

Neither am I.

It's time to pull together, because the opposition is on offense right now. Let's not run Alex or anyone else on our "team" down. I saw the vid and I actually enjoyed AJ motormouthing that smug Brit son of a bitch from one commercial break to the next.

Alex should have had questions at the ready for his inquisitor. How many crimes are prevented in the US by gun owners each year? What has happened to the right of self defense in the United Kingdom? Etc.,etc. But he obviously wasn't playing the debate game.

How did this come off?? At the risk of spamming the board, here's a sampling of 806 responses off the Blaze today.

Judge for yourself.

Comments (806)

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Order By: Newest to OldestOldest to Newest . gyro Posted on January 7, 2013 at 10:35pm Morgan won because the other fellow got exited Log in to Reply teapartyguardian Posted on January 7, 2013 at 10:40pm Exited, he stayed for the whole interrogation.

ScreaminEagle Posted on January 7, 2013 at 10:41pm Alex Jones, Ya gotta love him. Piers sounds like Sgt. Friday, Just the facts mam.

civilwarcometh Posted on January 7, 2013 at 10:42pm Really? I think more of this is needed at the MSM…

Proud_Veteran Posted on January 7, 2013 at 10:42pm No way! Just by Morgan opening his mouth he lost the battle. Morgan is a complete IDIOT! He’s trying to compare stats of Britain to Stats of the U.S… that’s impossible! We have a hell of alot more people here in the U.S. than in Britain.

soybomb315_II Posted on January 7, 2013 at 10:47pm holy crap – everyone needs to watch those videos. Forget what you think about Alex Jones, this was a classic. Forward it to EVERYONE

JasperC Posted on January 7, 2013 at 10:47pm Jones spoke a bit strongly, however his side of the argument is the only valid solution. Gun control doesn’t work, and never has. Piers attempted to counteract Alex’s statistics with his own, however, I feel that this was a smoke screen. The fact that knives are used as murder weapons more often than guns is a much more valid fact than saying that the UK had 35 firearms murders.

Without meaning to Piers helped Jones’ cause by giving this statistic, proving that when humans do not have access to firearms then they will use other weapons.

(In England, due to restrictions, the overall violent crime rate was raised due to firearms restrictions, despite their intended purpose)

13a Posted on January 7, 2013 at 10:51pm Piers Morgan knew what he was doing to get Alex Jones on his show because Jones IS a right-wing zealot living in his own conspiracy theorist world. The LAST person you want arguing a 2nd Amendment case for us gun owners is Alex Jones. The dude is a liability that everyone needs to distance themselves from.

LadyGOP Posted on January 7, 2013 at 10:51pm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtyKofFih8Y

Te republic will rise again if you come to take our guns.

LadyGOP Posted on January 7, 2013 at 10:56pm He made mince meat of PM. Its an incredible interview. Guy is spot on. I like him.

RJJinGadsden Posted on January 7, 2013 at 10:58pm I usually just reach over shut off the radio when Alex is on Coast to Coast AM, but this was funny. Wasn’t Piers at that gold covered baby eating contest?

stage9 Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:01pm This is how you man handle a two bit piece of garbage liberal.

13a Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:05pm Alex Jones LOST because he LOST his temper. Alex Jones has some good facts and then he says “How many chimpanzees can dance on the head of a pen?” Geez, Alex, why are you talking about great white sharks or jumping off the top of the Empire State Building? Suicide pills?? Alex can’t stay on topic!!

Serious question: Is Alex Jones mentally insane?

Advection Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:05pm Yeah, unfortunately Morgan won. Jones made the gun rights side look bad.

soybomb315_II Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:07pm dont worry everyone – he is just one of those Ron Paul type of kooks….nothing to see here, go to sleep now

El Pistoffo Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:11pm I loved, especially the part where he does the accent. LOL. Jones defiantly has a pair and I applaud him for it. He says it as he sees it with no hesitation, no spin. Morgan is a weasel who just brings up the same stupid questions every time. He cant see the big picture and he just got schooled.

13a Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:16pm LOL @ Alex Jones’ British Accent. I laughed throughout the entire interview because he was all over the place. I will give Jones credit for not punching Piers Morgan in the face though because surely that requires a lot of restraint.

rickc34 Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:19pm Morgan got the back hand slap from Jones.

Walkabout Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:29pm England has always had a lower homicide rate than the U.S. irrespective of gun laws. Other than a spike in around 1990, the rate has been pretty flat. So the gun laws do nothing to save life except take rights from law abiding citizens.

English homicide rates 1857-1993 Posted by Tim Lambert on August 3, 1996 @ Science Blogs

Second the U.S. has a higher rate of rape. I have not checked it out but I bet we have always had a higher rate irrespective of gun laws.

British Homicide Rate per 100K 1857 1.26 1993 1.31

Pretty flat.

So the U.S. has historically had higher rates than England for crime in general not just for homicide. We are not as homogeneous Britain. that is a big part of the answer.

But Britain is catching up.

sillyfreshness Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:33pm After watching this interview a second time, I see that Alex just wanted to go all out in his limited time to tell Piers’ audience what he wanted to get across. He didn’t want to be interviewed by Piers, he just wanted to gete his facts out before he got kicked off the show. Unfortunately it may have came across as some madman yelling. I get his tactic. He wanted to introduce himself to Piers audience by getting a ton of facts out. It was just a CNN soapbox for about 12 minutes for Alex.

stablepar Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:34pm george washington won because he got upset because of the tyrannical rulers of our country and he decided that life without without our God given liberties would be like living in a dungeon being sustained by pig caca soup.

Lucci Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:34pm Always amazes me where guys like Jones come from. He was deliberatly placed on the show to look like a joke. Not good for the cause, looked out of control.

soybomb315_II Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:39pm if donald trump gets away with it – why cant alex jones?

soybomb315_II Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:42pm people are ready for something different. Real americans have never liked the PC BS. Bring the facts and tell the truth – the delivery does not matter so much

RJJinGadsden Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:43pm LUCCI, Alex is always like that, even on his show or when he is on Coast to Coast AM. To me it was just all funny to watch the two of them go at it. Two blowhards, LOL.

stablepar Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:48pm the bottom line is that if you were standing on a street corner or sitting in a pub in the city of boston in between 1770 and 1776 which one would make the most sense to you? send morgan home on charges of sedition or just the fact that we had enough stupid people in this country that can’t seem to get past the fact that you can react to a criminal faster then the police can get there to save you,your mom, your daughter, your son, your father, your grandmother, your grandfather, nieces, nephews…get the point yet pin head???????

Trigus Posted on January 8, 2013 at 12:00am Why is Piers still in the United States? Oh, wait our friends across the pond filed a petition not to let him back into the UK. Okay, maybe Piers should go try the Middle East and push gun control.

Raging_Waters Posted on January 8, 2013 at 12:01am Piers didn’t win anything except more stupidity. Jones does seem to explode occasionally and seems overwhelmed at Piers’ smug look, but he’s accurate for the most part. Though he’s not exactly the guy I want defending the 2nd Amendment for America…but in a nation full of complacent cowards, I suppose I’ll take what I can get.

I myself would’ve preferred to tar and feather that smug british face on live television, then turn to the camara and say, “Anyone else want to try to diminish my Constitutional rights?”

txjb Posted on January 8, 2013 at 12:02am 13a ,Wrong !

watt Posted on January 8, 2013 at 12:04am Man, Rush Limbaugh was mad.

13a Posted on January 8, 2013 at 12:04am Occam’s Razor: The simplest explanation is the best answer. Jones’ Razor: The most complicated explanation is the best answer.

symphonic Posted on January 8, 2013 at 12:09am No, Jones won because it was the ONLY way to get a point across: talk over this manipulative and dishonest host.

13a Posted on January 8, 2013 at 12:11am TXJB Posted on January 8, 2013 at 12:02am 13a ,Wrong ! ———————————————

Which part?

soybomb315_II Posted on January 8, 2013 at 12:20am for the last 5 years you have been told that people like Alex Jones and Ron Paul are nutcase kooks and are good for laughs but not credible vehicles for change. So you disregarded them and ignored their ideas.

But 5 years later you have witnessed 2 inept presidential candidates who are ignorant of the constitution, a weak-kneed republican party, and diminishing political clout. Ever wonder if maybe the ones you were told to avoid are the only ones willing to take the fight to the enemy?

GPS-Tech Posted on January 8, 2013 at 12:22am Jones won because he controlled the argument. Piers tried the jedi mind trick of talking slowly and deliberately to make Jones look irrational. Didnt work. Tried to avoid discussing anti depressants but Jones threw it out there anyway. He may look crazy but they all claim we are crazy and violent anyway. Might as well get our side of the story out even if it is over the top. I like Beck but he is far too passive.

subic Posted on January 8, 2013 at 12:27am Absolutely CIVILWARCOMETH, Its time to get in their faces & expose them full speed ahead. I’d like to see someone do that to Obozo.

scarydave Posted on January 8, 2013 at 12:44am Alex Jones only hurts our side. Whether you believe in the New World Order stuff does not matter. What matters is the instant reaction from good hard working people that you may be able to win over, when you bring up the NWO subject. It’s kinda like when your Wife asks “do I look fat”, the absolute wrong word to say is “Yes”. If you want to be taken seriously you need to memorize a comprehensive list of subjects not to mention and words not to say. This will save you from endless ridicule and you will win over more people. Just the way it is.

Patriot Z Posted on January 8, 2013 at 12:44am normally i may agree, but taking in consideration we have the facts and how morgan acted last week. niot to mention the simple fact that liberals are naturally some of the rudest people. i have to disagree. i feel its way past the time (and hopefully not too late) for us in the conservative and constitutional parties to stop being so mild and polite and get out there and fight. so i have to say jones nailed it. debates have rules. this stopped being a debate and became war, long ago

YAHSHUARULES Posted on January 8, 2013 at 12:54am The left has an agenda to drive this culture in a direction designed to destroy it. Gun control is just one of their weapons. The cadre of intellectuals that have trained Gramsci shock troops of teachers and media hacks to take this which was a Judeo/Chrsitan culture down from within…

; use public policy to subvert America from inside, infiltrate and influence our culture driving us in a direction designed to destroy us. . No conspiracy – just verifiable facts! If you don’t know all this you need to find out! This is the most comprehensive, best movie I have seen pulling all this together. I have watched it 12X to absorb all that is in it…give it 5 minutes and you won’t be able to walk away Watch it. Share it.

Arrange a showing in church, groups, clubs, with friends or family. Everyone who loves America needs to see this movie, It is free on line for the moment https://vimeo.com/52009124 If America goes down, the free world will go down with it and it will be finished for a very, very long time…

scarydave Posted on January 8, 2013 at 12:59am SOYBOMB315_II Posted on January 8, 2013 at 12:20am ——————————————————- I have suggestion for you… Find more credible people to defend or else you will be perceived the same way that Jones and Paul are. Just the way it is.

Saving_the_Republic.com Posted on January 8, 2013 at 1:02am @13A You are dead on AJ is a few sandwiches short of a picnic. It doesnt stop here though kids, ya see AJ had something to say an hour after this claiming before they arrived at CNN he was being watched by NYPD … http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=O8EW-E14-wI

Anonymous T. Irrelevant Posted on January 8, 2013 at 1:03am Alex refused to let himself be led to the slaughter like so many progressive talk show hosts do to conservative guests. If more conservative guests did this, there would be less gotcha moments, but they let the host control the conversation when they were invited on to give their opinion. That’s the problem with progressive talk shows. No matter who gets invited in, the host controls the conversation and you only hear their view, unless the guest happens to agree, then they let him talk as much as they want. Keep up the good work, Alex, and good job for not letting this progressive foreigner lead you into his trap.

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randge  posted on  2013-01-09   19:04:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: randge, all (#65)

I'm pleasantly surprised to see so many of Beck's listeners "get it" and weren't so terribly turned off by Jones ! The freedom movement has tried to soft pedal the situation for the 30 years I've been aware of it and it ain't working. Most "patriots" were polite towards their oppressors thinking in the early stages that maybe the politicians were just ignorant and without ill intent. Now, we know better and have known better for a very long time. THIS IS TYRANNY and we should properly address it.

We've tried to work within their court system expecting the rule of law to prevail, peacefully. This has resulted in heavy fines, many arrests and imprisonments, children taken from their parents and basically we've been raped by the same assholes that cash the checks taxpayers provide, have more vacation time, better health benefits, endless sick days, and better retirement plans than the poor stiffs paying the freight.

Oh, but we haven't bent over enough yet. So, now they want the guns. Screw them, and hurray for Alex. If the people viewing Piers Morgan's shitty little program are terrified by Alex ... just wait til the FED MAFIA rolls up out in front of their house and watch em shit their pants. Who needs em ?

We should all be fucking livid. Stop acting like docile, mentally castrated pussies and grow a pair. It's time to get in their face. Why should we speak in hushed tones and act all polite when we are being metaphorically raped in the ass every day?

noone222  posted on  2013-01-09   19:52:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: christine, Jethro Tull (#0)

When anyone asks, "Why do civilians need an AR-15?" the correct answer is, "It's not a question of need, it's question of rights". If Bloomberg, Schumer and Feinstein believe that the enemies of gun owners should make gun policy then why not let Neo Nazis or better yet the survivors of the relief flotilla to Gaza decide how much aid we send to Israel?

Govt and Hollywood have the power to vilify the very amendment intended to keep tyrants in check, and they've clearly done that. And the same studio moguls who are attempting to disarm us hold fundraisers to arm all Israelis in case Arab kids throw rocks at them. The racial aspect is relevant to the needs of Israelis, but it's taboo to discuss the black crime wave in America or the race of the non Christians who view armed Americans as a threat. So, Let's not get suckered into this ridiculous debate, especially with Alex Jones posturing as an ardent defender while refusing to name the enemy or expose their hypocritical agenda.

If they mean to have a war then let it begin here. And any representative who votes to disarm us can return to the private sector next election and sell life insurance or used cars if other former reps aren't hired to fill the positions first.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2013-01-10   17:28:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: randge, All (#65)

Some words of support for Alex Jones here and some opposed:

Jones vs Morgan - Pros And Cons

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-01-11   6:06:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: GreyLmist (#68) (Edited)

Pros And Cons

Ferchrissakes let's quit this contemptible handwringing about the offense sparrowfart leftists might take sitting at home in front of the tube listening to the Jones/Morgan exchange. F'm if they can't take a joke.

The interview, debate, whatever you wanna call it drew surprisingly strong positive feedback. It was an appeal from the gut, and that always elicits a consonant response.

Offense, offense, offense. Toujours l'audace, and all that.

Cheers, GreyLmist. ; )

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. - H. L. Mencken

randge  posted on  2013-01-11   6:36:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: christine (#0)

Her is an astute analysis on Jones and his interview.......

by Chris Haywood (henrymakow.com)

What on earth did we witness Monday night? So many questions. Alex Jones was on Piers Morgan’s CNN show, ranting and raving like a lunatic, whilst Piers just sat there and took it.

Why was Alex on the show?

Alex was on the show for one reason. The station his show is on is an affiliate of time warner. He is not an independent broadcaster. Alex is as much a part of the same system as Piers Morgan. When you think in terms of association, Alex is to Warner as Glenn Beck is to Fox. He fulfills a purpose, and attracts a fringe audience, an audience that pays subscription fees to GCN (via prisonplanet.tv). So Alex was on the show because he is a ‘TV’, presenter. He’s like a specialist reporter, a TV personality and an agent provocateur all rolled into one.

For an example of an independent broadcaster, think William Cooper, who did it all by himself.

Why did he shout, and rant so much?

When someone watches the news, they expect certain things, usually – cool, calm, objective reporting. This is why they watch the news. People who like shouting will watch WWE, and we all know thats fake right? Imagine watching a political debate and Romney starts screaming in Obama’s face. Obama of course just sits there, without fear, and takes it. This is taking the higher ground. Jones was there to look bad, and to make Piers look good. Jones was there to look like an idiot, a bully, and a psycho. Jones was there to be the patsy. Now whether or not what he said was true, it was the delivery that mattered. I cannot state this enough, Jones is an agent of the system, not of truth. Why was this allowed to happen?

For exactly the reason William Cooper said “Because they haven’t got the guns out of the hands of the American people”. I’m not saying that Jones will single handedly bring down gun ownership. But he is a cog in a big machine. The idea is to uniformly present all patriots and gun owners as being like Alex Jones. Loud, boisterous mentally unhinged bullies. If anyone thinks that the founding fathers were anything like Jones you are sadly mistaken. If Jones was a founding father, the revolution would likely have never happened. Why did he threaten a revolution?

One thing people consider to be terrorism (thanks to “Law and Order” which I watched yesterday) is any threat of violence. There is a movement that would like ANY behavior which threatens violence to be considered as an act of terror – especially when politically motivated. Jones presents patriots as being potentially listed as terrorists on various government hit lists. Jones is an agent provocateur, he wants a revolution. He won’t be fighting in it, he’ll be watching from his government safe-house. But by threatening a revolution, he has now purposely given legitimacy to government labelling patriots as terrorists – enemies of the state if you like. Remember, people like Jones and Icke have ALWAYS said ‘no violence, only peaceful means’. Why the sudden change? Because whatever is coming, is COMING soon. Do not fall for their garbage. Remember what the average person wants (straight from the bible) PEACE AND SECURITY. You threaten that and in their eyes you are THE ENEMY.

Why did he challenge Piers to a boxing match?

To be a bully, nothing more. Piers is no threat to him. ergo all Patriots are loudmouth bullies.

Why does anyone think that Alex is on ‘our side’?

Alex is a typical cult leader. He tells you that you cannot trust anyone but him, its addictive, I need to tune in to the Alex Jones show to get some truth. I need to hear what HE says about todays news. I’ve been there! But he also says that the news is full of lies, whilst printing out 3 dozen news articles every day.

He won’t touch religion, yet claims to be a Christian. Yet he puts David Icke on every couple of months to fill his listeners heads with New Age crap. He is self-promoting, arrogant, egotistical, a pathological liar (just search youtube to find a hundred or more videos of Jones lies exposed).

You can go through all the ‘in the movement’ naive arguments against Jones, but to see the truth, you have to stop listening, stop caring about him and his show, move beyond it and realise that this man has been on the air for just shy of 20 years and pretty much (90%) every prediction (excluding 9/11 – which was not his prediction) has turned out to be false. He was using the same shlock in 1996 as he is today!

This interview, is nothing but MORE evidence that this guy is a fraud. Look at his face when Piers is introducing him, [The full interview here] at around the 30 second mark. Is that the face of a sincere individual?

Remember this scripture: “Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.” Matthew 7:15

2013-01-08 12:24:10

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2013-01-11   8:04:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: HOUNDDAWG (#67)

If Bloomberg, Schumer and Feinstein believe that the enemies of gun owners should make gun policy then why not let Neo Nazis or better yet the survivors of the relief flotilla to Gaza decide how much aid we send to Israel?

I like this HD. The three Zios named above spare no weapon for Mother Israel, but work overtime in an effort to disarm US. Until Americans with eyes to see begin to identify this remarkable disconnect, things will only get worse.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-01-11   8:19:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Jethro Tull (#71)

If Bloomberg, Schumer and Feinstein believe that the enemies of gun owners should make gun policy then why not let Neo Nazis or better yet the survivors of the relief flotilla to Gaza decide how much aid we send to Israel?

These zionazi termites defy all logic in their gun grabbing antics. If there's any truth to the holocaust these anti-American (Jew) scumbags should be the last people in favor of disarming the people. They act like Hitler, Mao, Stalin and others of the 20th Century haven't taken the people's arms for the purpose of killing over a hundred million (of their own people) dissidents that might not agree with their tyranny.

It's so off the chart for a Jew that maintains that the holocaust occurred to promote a gun ban it should be blatantly obvious even to the retarded amongst us. Molon Labe !

We should all be livid. Stop acting like docile, mentally castrated pussies and grow a pair. It's time to get in their face. Why should we speak in hushed tones and act all polite when we are being metaphorically raped every day?

noone222  posted on  2013-01-11   12:14:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: abraxas (#70)

Great post, ab. If Alex, or anyone else, had gone on to Morgan's show, or the show of any of the gun grabbing idiots well prepared for it they could stay calm and refute their bs with the truth. Alex should have made himself aware of actual statistics as far as the violent crime rate in England as opposed to the US. He should have been aware that more people are killed every year with hammers and clubs or other blunt objects than with rifles. That stuff and plenty more and all of which can be said calmly in a way that is not "threatening" to people.


"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-01-11   12:36:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: noone222 (#72)

These zionazi termites defy all logic in their gun grabbing antics. If there's any truth to the holocaust these anti-American (Jew) scumbags should be the last people in favor of disarming the people.

So very true about the holocaust, and the alliance of the Jew and Black has never been more evident than it is today. The Freedom Riders of today have shed their skin and exposed themselves as the communists they've always been.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-01-11   12:37:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Jethro Tull (#74)

and the alliance of the Jew and Black has never been more evident than it is today. The Freedom Riders of today have shed their skin and exposed themselves as the communists they've always been.

Anyone that thinks the Kenyan is anti-Israel is a dufas without an iota of realism coursing through their bloodstream.

Look at the appointments (Jacob Joseph Lew) a freakin criminal insider jewbag to become the Secretary of Treasury !

We should all be livid. Stop acting like docile, mentally castrated pussies and grow a pair. It's time to get in their face. Why should we speak in hushed tones and act all polite when we are being metaphorically raped every day?

noone222  posted on  2013-01-11   12:47:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: randge (#69)

There's some surprisingly strong positive feedback at the Pros and Cons link, as well.

Cheers to you, too, randge and all. :)

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-01-12   6:55:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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