Thanks for the videos! I only wish I could watch them right now. So much going on in my life right now [good things for a change] that is keeping me from the 4um. Keep up the good work!
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speechhttp://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
.... they took Emily from the Obama picture and pasted it into the Parker picture. ....
Either way, the girl (in the Utah photo) looking directly into the camera, with her hair parted on the right, is not exactly the same image as the girl (in the Obama photo), looking at something below the camera, with her hair parted down the middle.
The Utah photo, with green foliage, was obviously taken at least a few months before the December shooting, and the possibility that one of the younger girls had grown into Emilie's hand-me-downs by the time of the massacre would be entirely credible to any parent. Funny how NOBODY WHO KNEW EMILIE is supporting this conspiracy theory.
I think it's astonishing (and disgusting) how a massacre that took the life of one Jewish boy is being used as into an opportunity for Jew-baiting.
Shut up, stop lying. Your fake indignance is sickening.
"Call Me Ishmael" -Ishmael, A character from the book "Moby Dick" 1851. "Call Me Fishmeal" -Osama Bin Laden, A character created by the CIA, and the world's Hide And Seek Champion 2001-2011. -Tommythemadartist
On a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner. Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner. My Man Godfrey (1936)
"...Drill before the event: A highly circulated photo depicts students walking in a single file formation with their hands on each others shoulders and eyes shut. Yet this was the image of a drill event that took place some months prior to the event itself...."
"Freethinkers are those who are willing to use their minds without prejudice and without fearing to understand things that clash with their own customs, privileges, or beliefs. This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking; where it is absent, discussion is apt to become worse than useless." ~ Leo Tolstoy
I suspect you actually believe what you're saying.
That's so cute.
"Freethinkers are those who are willing to use their minds without prejudice and without fearing to understand things that clash with their own customs, privileges, or beliefs. This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking; where it is absent, discussion is apt to become worse than useless." ~ Leo Tolstoy
Would be nice if you would do us all a favor and simply stop posting here. It would lessen my absolute contempt for you.
"Call Me Ishmael" -Ishmael, A character from the book "Moby Dick" 1851. "Call Me Fishmeal" -Osama Bin Laden, A character created by the CIA, and the world's Hide And Seek Champion 2001-2011. -Tommythemadartist
Is there anything besides this one picture of children with Obama to indicate that Emilie Parker is still alive?
Is someone contending that 19 other children are actually dead but this one is not? Or are the other 19 also still alive and their funerals faked (and what's the evidence for that)?
Do not talk to me. Your purpose on this forum is only to lie. You're not engaging in anything other than deceit. You're as phony as they come.
"Call Me Ishmael" -Ishmael, A character from the book "Moby Dick" 1851. "Call Me Fishmeal" -Osama Bin Laden, A character created by the CIA, and the world's Hide And Seek Champion 2001-2011. -Tommythemadartist
Is there anything besides this one picture of children with Obama to indicate that Emilie Parker is still alive?
Is someone contending that 19 other children are actually dead but this one is not? Or are the other 19 also still alive and their funerals faked (and what's the evidence for that)?
"Robbie Parker"'s poor acting is a sure sign she is still alive. That she appears in none of the school class pictures is another.
There is evidence that the other children are still alive as it appears the other "parents" are acting also. Some of the parents have been found to have other identities and residence(s).
Watch and judge for yourself whether you are witnessing genuinely grieved friends and family, or professional actors playing a designated role. I think the answer is obvious.
"Freethinkers are those who are willing to use their minds without prejudice and without fearing to understand things that clash with their own customs, privileges, or beliefs. This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking; where it is absent, discussion is apt to become worse than useless." ~ Leo Tolstoy
The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable. ~ H. L. Mencken
It's already been proven beyond a doubt that the whole thing is false. You're trying to engage me, which I find particularly offensive. Mostly because you're as dishonest as they come, and need to find somewhere else to go.
I would rather you go back to Israel, or wherever you came from, than defile my country, and the internet any further than you already have.
"Call Me Ishmael" -Ishmael, A character from the book "Moby Dick" 1851. "Call Me Fishmeal" -Osama Bin Laden, A character created by the CIA, and the world's Hide And Seek Champion 2001-2011. -Tommythemadartist
#42. To: wudidiz, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#31)
ATKHWDI: "...Drill before the event: A highly circulated photo depicts students walking in a single file formation with their hands on each others shoulders and eyes shut. Yet this was the image of a drill event that took place some months prior to the event itself...."
wudidiz, scroll down to ATKHWDI's reply to me at Post #77 in that thread (4um Title: The Official Story Of The Sandy Hook School Shooting Is Riddled With Holes). The quote is from the thetruthseeker.co.uk page (Sandy Hook: US State-Fabricated Terror) linked there below the pic.
"...Drill before the event: A highly circulated photo depicts students walking in a single file formation with their hands on each others shoulders and eyes shut. Yet this was the image of a drill event that took place some months prior to the event itself...."
Alex Seitz-Wald showed no evidence for his theory that it was Emilie's sister wearing her dress in the Obama photo and they look alike -- just a blithering tirade about "conspiracy theorists". This is from a comment there:
What sort of bogus argument is this? "This argument is false because all conspiracy theories are false." Not a legitimate argument at all. [sic] spare us your "conspiracy theorists [sic] crap, it's boring.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
1. "We all know the government never does anything wrong. They would never kill 200 children with drone strikes just to get a few terrorist, but they did. They would never give guns to drug lords to kill thousands of people including our own agents, but they did. People like you that tow the line of what you are fed are an embarrassment to journalism.
Without those willing to not accept the government at face value and ask hard questions, no one would have learned of Fast and Furious because people like you are quite content to call those who question the official narrative as nuts. How about Benghazi, if I told you the Obama administration left 4 men to be murdered, refused repeated pleas for additional security over several months, you would say I was a crackpot, but they did and were caught. [sic]
The people that should be ignored Mike are people like you, without people asking real questions, most of the governments shenanigans would go unanswered and sadly, most do.."
2. "There is nothing wrong with wanting to know more about what really happened, Especially if it is not being told and so many politicians are wanting to use this as a case for certain types of new laws. Before new laws can be made everyone needs to understand what happened here 100%.
3. "There are MANY things that are very weird and secretive about this school shooting. [sic]
People cannot be blamed for wanting to know the truth when things don't line up."
4. "Why are so many people calling for a professor's firing? That is a very dangerous position to take, as "offensive speech" can be anything to an arbitrarily chosen group. If professors get fired every time they utter offensive speech, then the universities will be full of conformists and the students and society will be damaged as a result.
Also, I just googled an article by the Sun-Sentinel from 2002 claiming Saddam had WMDs. So the FAU professor must be shamed and taken to task for spreading alleged misinformation -- oh, how it hurts feelings -- but this paper can spread deadly misinformation with impunity and not be called to account for it. The petty professor is the bad guy here, and he deserves to be hung to dry by the morally lofty Sun-Sentinel."
5. "As an FAU alumni, I am embarrassed by those calling for the professor's firing. It shows that FAU alumni are not the brightest or most tolerant bunch of degree holders. What's galling is that FAU has not taught graduates to think critically and to be open to ideas which question the mainstream media or the establishment line. It was Voltaire who said that though he may not agree with someone else on something, he'd die for his right to say it.
Again, my question to Michael Mayo: why was the Sun-Sentinel pushing the WMD lies which caused thousands of deaths? Why is the same line now being used again Iran? So, why are you bringing attention to a petty professor over alleged misinformation, when your employer has committed far more egregious crimes?
Michael: your paper is now pushing the same tired line which WILL initiate another war at some point. Why aren't you taking the paper to task over this? Oh, that's right -- it's more politically convenient for a liberal journalist such as yourself to attack a professor who is in hot water for questioning journalists like you who toe the line.
Mind you, I am not a gun nut nor a wingnut. I just think more Americans are waking up to the lies of the mainstream media and this will mean less and less credibility in the long run."
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
"Drill before the event." This seems obviously (to me, at least) the typical, regulation fire drill that just about every elementary school has at least once at the beginning of the school year. If this were a rehearsal for the massacre then a question of howcome the principal and two (IIRC) teachers allowed themselves to get shot and killed, and howcome any parents allowed their kids to return to that school after this drill (you didn't think 6 year olds are good at keeping secrets, did you?)?
No teachers allowed them selves to be shot and killed Mrs McShill. You know darn well that their was no shooter no murder no blood. Just a bunch of TV shenanigans aimed at emotional manipulation of the masses.
But I am still not giving up my gun. None of us are... Hell not even you are giving up YOUR gun Shoonra.....
How fucked up is that?
You are getting paid to post here and elsewhere to promote the government line. In this case gun confiscation legislation. But you shoonra will be keeping your gun.
Tell us.
What makes you a more responsible gun owner then anyone else here that you should be allowed to keep your guns when we will be coerced and compelled into giving up ours?
Are you saying that NOBODY was killed at Sandy Hook? How many people are in on this hoax .... and howcome nobody has blabbed? This sounds like the 9/11 "truthers" saying that no passenger jets crashed ... so where are all the passengers now?
My notion is, if the Sandy Hook massacre was real - AND a govt-contrived event to justify new gun laws or something - then the govt would NOT have wanted the children drilled in any survival technique, because the govt presumably would want to maximize the carnage. So this "drill" seems to disprove that the shooting was a planned govt scheme.
PS: Please tell me WHO is paying me. Whoever it is owes me a huge amount of backpay.
Are you saying that NOBODY was killed at Sandy Hook?
Are you saying that captital letters assure you of an airtight case?
"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs
"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs
Take ten peeled oranges, Jarvis Masters, it is the judgment and sentence of this court, one 8 oz. bowl of fruit cocktail, that the charged information was true, squeeze the fruit into a small plastic bag, and the jury having previously, on said date, and put the juice along with the mash inside, found that the penalty shall be death, add 16 oz. of water and seal the bag tightly. and this Court having, on August 20, 1991, Place the bag into your sink, denied your motion for a new trial, and heat it with hot running water for 15 minutes. it is the order of this Court that you suffer death, wrap towels around the bag to keep it warm for fermentation. said penalty to be inflicted within the walls of San Quentin, Stash the bag in your cell undisturbed for 48 hours. at which place you shall be put to death, When the time has elapsed, in the manner prescribed by law, add 40 to 60 cubes of white sugar, the date later to be fixed by the Court in warrant of execution. six teaspoons of ketchup, You are remanded to the custody of the warden of San Quentin, then heat again for 30 minutes, to be held by him pending final secure the bag as done before, determination of your appeal. then stash the bag undisturbed again for 72 hours. It is so ordered. Reheat daily for 15 minutes. In witness whereof, After 72 hours, I have hereon set my hand as Judge of this Superior Court, with a spoon, skim off the mash, and I have caused the seal of this Court to be affixed thereto. pour the remaining portion into two 18 oz. cups. May God have mercy on your soul.
Recipe For Prison Pruno A poem by Jarvis Masters
On a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner. Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner. My Man Godfrey (1936)
"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs
Damn I miss Flintstome, think he'll ever come back?
"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs
Here is a picture of the Parker family, at Emilie's funeral, with their two surviving daughters. Could one of those girls be the one in the photo with Obama?
"Drill before the event." This seems obviously (to me, at least) the typical, regulation fire drill that just about every elementary school has at least once at the beginning of the school year. If this were a rehearsal for the massacre then a question of howcome the principal and two (IIRC) teachers allowed themselves to get shot and killed, and howcome any parents allowed their kids to return to that school after this drill (you didn't think 6 year olds are good at keeping secrets, did you?)?
I don't assume those staffers were actually killed. Since cameras and TV have been invented, it's not as easy as it used to be for millenia to control people and nations with almost nothing but storytellers and hand-me-down legends dating all the way back to Old Testament compositions, for example. Nowadays, control freaks that wannabe in charge without mass resistance have to go to a bit more bother to "illustrate" their hellish agendas; but they evidently aren't much concerned with how sloppy and absurd their stagings are because the official-story "faithful" people like you aren't much concerned about any of that either and will help them to achieve their objectives unquestioningly.
If most or all of the children thought that they were in a fire drill at the beginning of the school year but adults around them were in a rehearsal drill unbeknownst to the students and using them like photo-op disaster props, I guess there wouldn't be the problems you mentioned about returning to that school and keeping secrets. Later, they might be told that the pic was mistakenly included with those of the shooting episode and that photo wouldn't be all that critical to the storyline anyway if it was discarded. It's already largely served its purpose of moving people as intended. There likewise wouldn't be a problem of keeping secrets with the children who would believe to be true whatever they were told and heard and saw of a supposed shooting there. Of the few children who were selected to be interviewed about it, some might have been telling of what they believe happened but others might be indoctrinated with a code of ethics that not only condones lying for a "cause" but rewards it.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
So this "drill" seems to disprove that the shooting was a planned govt scheme.
Do you also think the air drills on 911 that supposedly made every agency of government inept disprove government involvement?
A drill can easily provide cover for those who are easily duped into believing that government is there to save you and protect you.
Don't you find it odd that the EXACT scenarios and locations where the government conducts the drill is the EXACT SCENARIO AND LOCATION to face the situation that the drill is supposed to prepare? Why not another elementary school? Why not a plane running into ANOTHER building? Statistically, the odds are astronomical Shoonie.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
and the possibility that one of the younger girls had grown into Emilie's hand-me-downs by the time of the massacre would be entirely credible to any parent.
Not to this parent of little girls. How much do you think they grow in a couple of months? What evidence do you have that the photos are indeed MONTHS apart? NOne. There is no noticeable growth from one picture to the next. Also, the family photo is a CHRISTMAS PHOTO--so when do you think it was taken? In a matter of WEEKS at most from the date of the massacre.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
What sort of bogus argument is this? "This argument is false because all conspiracy theories are false." Not a legitimate argument at all. [sic] spare us your "conspiracy theorists [sic] crap, it's boring.
Non sequitur.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
There is very little difference where the hair is parted from one image to the other. After a bath, the part falls where it falls each day with little girls anyway. Parents know this.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
The Utah photo, with green foliage, was obviously taken at least a few months before the December
No, the frickin pine trees actually remain green year round. As with MOST FAMILY PHOTOS IT IS A FRICKIN BACKGROUND, not the natural outdoors anyway. Do you think the natural outdoors also had convenient family seating too? lol
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
Shoonra at #4: Emelie died at age 6, the eldest of three girls. The other two are now 4 and 3. I say that what we see is one of the younger girls in a hand-me-down previously worn by Emelie.
Your comprehensive answer to every Sandy Hook conspiracy theory
Every conspiratorial allegation about the tragic Newtown shootings, answered
By Alex Seitz-Wald
What about Emilie? One of the most common myths circulated on message boards and in YouTube videos is that Emilie Parker is actually alive. The proof is a photo purportedly showing her with President Obama when he visited the school after the shooting. Conspiracists know its Emilie because shes wearing the same dress as the one Emilie wore in a family portrait taken before the shooting (an alternative theory is that the girl in the photo with Obama is her double). [sic]
Answer: The girl on Obamas lap is Emilies little sister. Its amazing that we have to say this, but sometimes younger siblings wear clothes passed down to them from older siblings, and sometimes siblings look alike because they are siblings.
So what does that have to do with Emilie? Nothing -- and that strikethrough part is beside the point. Doesn't mean that's the case in this issue. It's amazing that I have to say this but here goes in answer to Alex Seitz-Wald's non-answer:
No, no, no. The girl in the red and black dress standing in front of him -- not the girl on his lap said to be her little sister.
I don't like that picture, btw. It's improper.
Edited for spacing.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC