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Title: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns
Source: Weekly Standard
URL Source: http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs ... ve-order-deal-guns_694984.html
Published: Jan 9, 2013
Author: Daniel Halper
Post Date: 2013-01-09 13:13:21 by noone222
Keywords: None
Views: 721
Comments: 48

Vice President Joe Biden revealed that President Barack Obama might use an executive order to deal with guns.

"The president is going to act," said Biden, giving some comments to the press before a meeting with victims of gun violence. "There are executives orders, there's executive action that can be taken. We haven't decided what that is yet. But we're compiling it all with the help of the attorney general and the rest of the cabinet members as well as legislative action that we believe is required."

Biden said that this is a moral issue and that "it's critically important that we act."

Biden talked also about taking responsible action. "As the president said, if you're actions result in only saving one life, they're worth taking. But I'm convinced we can affect the well-being of millions of Americans and take thousands of people out of harm's way if we act responsibly."

Biden, as he himself noted, helped write the Brady bill.

Eric Holder was scheduled to be at the meeting that's currently taking place at the White House.

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#2. To: noone222 (#0)

Vice President Joe Biden revealed that President Barack Obama might use an executive order to deal with guns.

If Obama tries to use an Executive Order to undermine the 2nd Amendment, imho he is setting himself up for a big fail at the SCOTUS level, if not at the Congressional level where a super majority vote is required to veto an Executive Order.

His attempt to use an EO to subvert the 2nd amendment might in fact harm the Dem Party in elections for years to come. The Dem Party is not just supported by special interest ( far left extremist) groups - there are also millions of moderate (non-special interest aligned) Dem voters ( who own guns) who would be PO'd, me thinks.

scrapper2  posted on  2013-01-09   13:42:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: scrapper2 (#2)

at the Congressional level where a super majority vote is required to veto an Executive Order.

What? The Constitution doesn't say that.

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-01-10   7:09:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: GreyLmist (#12) (Edited)

What? The Constitution doesn't say that.

Right. I won't bore you with the facts. I might add that the "Brits" still believe in the divine right to rule by Royal Bloodlines and Americans believe there's a constitution.

Faith in fake money makes a fraud out of the consti-stupid.

noone222  posted on  2013-01-10   7:24:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: noone222 (#13)

You seemed a bit more Constitution-friendly in the posts I was reading before this one.

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-01-10   7:44:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: GreyLmist (#14)

www.constitution.org/mercie r/incon.htm

noone222  posted on  2013-01-10   7:54:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: noone222 (#16)

I know you can be more Constitution-friendly than that when you want to be. How about we just agree for now that Executive Orders aren't really laws?

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-01-10   8:17:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: GreyLmist, noone222 (#17)

Executive Orders aren't really laws?

IIRC, executive orders, other than to merely direct the inner working of the agencies under the control of the Executive Branch, can only lawfully be used to bring into effect already existing Congressional legislation??

X-15  posted on  2013-01-13   15:29:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#48. To: X-15 (#47)

IIRC, executive orders, other than to merely direct the inner working of the agencies under the control of the Executive Branch, can only lawfully be used to bring into effect already existing Congressional legislation??

Thanks for your insight on that, X-15. My opinion is that they can only lawfully be used to bring into effect already existing Congressional legislation that is Constitutional but do otherwise agree completely.

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