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Title: Neoconservatism jumps the shark
Source: Daily Caller
URL Source: http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/07/neoconservatism-jumps-the-shark/
Published: Jan 07, 2013
Author: Adam Bates
Post Date: 2013-01-13 23:10:05 by X-15
Keywords: None
Views: 672
Comments: 8

Some resistance to President Obama’s selection of Republican Chuck Hagel as secretary of defense was to be expected. After all, in his distinguished career Chuck Hagel has come to represent so many qualities that Barack Obama’s utterly prodigal administration has rejected: Sen. Hagel has shown a preference for deliberation and reason to rash action and politics, diplomatic and commercial engagement to wanton violence, and fiscal sanity to reckless, debt-laden extravagance.

So I expected those who support Obama’s endlessly wasteful, ill-conceived, abhorrently violent policies to raise some resistance to Sen. Hagel’s nomination. Frankly, I was surprised President Obama would nominate such a person in the first place. For a president who believes he has the authority to assassinate American citizens without charges, launch wars without Congress’ permission on the grounds that firing hundreds of missiles into foreign cities does not constitute “hostilities,” and wage legally and morally dubious drone campaigns against thousands of unidentified people in countries with which we’re nominally allied, Chuck Hagel is a surprising pick.

I am more surprised, however, to find that the bulk of the hostility to Sen. Hagel’s nomination is coming not from Democrats upset over Hagel’s conservatism and restraint, but from Republicans whose entire party philosophy is supposedly based on the very principles they’re now skewering. Rather than embrace the sudden appearance of a voice of deliberation and restraint in the Obama cabinet, several prominent Republicans have responded with precisely the type of hyperventilated, poisonous indignation that has cost the GOP election after election. Sen. Lindsey Graham, Sen. Ted Cruz, and Bill Kristol took to their soapboxes to absurdly and indefensibly smear Sen. Hagel as an anti-Semite for his “radical” suggestion that the interests of the U.S. and Israeli governments are not inherently the same, a naïve appeaser for his “crazy” view that America should seek to engage its rivals peacefully before resorting to war, and a coward whose entirely defensible belief that sanctions on Iran are counterproductive is tantamount to surrender.

Has the neoconservative camp really jumped the shark so extensively that even run-of-the-mill political realism now earns one a public crucifixion for cowardice and anti-Semitic bigotry? If so, then this nomination fight may be, as the Cato Institute’s Benjamin Friedman points out, far more productive than it appears (and far more productive than most of the neoconservatives’ battles), simply by shedding light on how ludicrous the foreign policy discourse has become within the Republican Party.

The purpose here is not to endorse Chuck Hagel, or even to establish his fitness for the office he seeks. Sen. Hagel is an interventionist, initially supported the Iraq War (though, unlike many of his colleagues, he came to acknowledge the error in that) and the Patriot Act, and he falls well within the mainstream of a national foreign policy discussion that has gone far off the rails of logic and morality. But it is precisely Sen. Hagel’s mainstream status that renders the neoconservative hysteria so galling. How does the party that claims to champion the ideology of our founding documents and the men who wrote them find itself noxiously smearing a Republican senator and decorated war hero for having the audacity to advocate engagement as preferable to war, to suggest that we should be wary of passionate attachment for favorite foreign nations, and to counsel against going abroad in search of monsters to destroy?

If limited government, fiscal responsibility, and restraint from unnecessary foreign entanglements are now vile apostasies in the Republican Party, what sanctuary is left to conservatives and, more importantly, America’s founding principles of peace, commerce, and independence?

Adam Bates received a B.A. in Political Science from the University of Miami (FL) in 2007, and a J.D. and M.A. in Middle Eastern & North African Studies from the University of Michigan in 2011.

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#1. To: X-15, *libertarians*, *Humor-Weird News* (#0)

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freepatriot32  posted on  2013-01-13   23:28:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: X-15 (#0)

Sen. Hagel is an interventionist, initially supported the Iraq War (though, unlike many of his colleagues, he came to acknowledge the error in that) and the Patriot Act, and he falls well within the mainstream of a national foreign policy discussion that has gone far off the rails of logic and morality.

Anyone who supported the damnable Patriot Act is not to be trusted. I don't really care what other views they hold, the Patriot Act is an abomination. Maybe he thinks Obama is not out of line when he orders the murder of American citizens or orders them locked up without any due process. Or Obama's drone strikes which have killed many innocent men, women and children. I never once saw him shed even one crocodile tear over any of those innocent people.


"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-01-14   0:20:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: X-15 (#0)

Hagel only scored 44% on the Freedom Index. He is NOT a conservative.


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farmfriend  posted on  2013-01-14   1:21:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: James Deffenbach (#2)

Anyone who supported the damnable Patriot Act is not to be trusted.

Or Obama's drone strikes which have killed many innocent men, women and children. I never once saw him shed even one crocodile tear over any of those innocent people.

C'mon man, let's get serious-er ! Not trusted ? How's about not existing any longer ? D.C. is a cancer that must be surgically removed.

How about those of the elected intelligentsia that voted on shit they didn't read ?

Drone strikes - guess who's next - when gun confiscation is taking too long ?

We should all be livid. Stop acting like docile, mentally castrated pussies and grow a pair. It's time to get in their face. Why should we speak in hushed tones and act all polite when we are being metaphorically raped every day?

noone222  posted on  2013-01-14   7:15:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: X-15 (#0)

Doofus Cornyn has already said that he'll vote Naye over Hagel's restraint on Iran.

ziocon turd.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-01-14   7:23:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: noone222 (#4)

Drone strikes - guess who's next - when gun confiscation is taking too long ?

You and me and anyone else who says "Molon Labe, mofo"? Did I win a prize?


"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-01-14   10:25:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: X-15 (#0)

How does the party that claims to champion the ideology of our founding documents and the men who wrote them find itself noxiously smearing a Republican senator and decorated war hero for having the audacity to advocate engagement as preferable to war, to suggest that we should be wary of passionate attachment for favorite foreign nations, and to counsel against going abroad in search of monsters to destroy?

Because slavish support for Israel is their only hope for a reason to be eaten last.

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Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2013-01-14   11:40:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: X-15 (#0)

Neocons

The Neocons are the real enemy. I saw Krauthammer and others trading anti-gun opinions the other day. It made me sick. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2013-01-14   18:35:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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