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Title: Obama: Some Gun Control Measures 'I Can Accomplish Through Executive Action'
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Published: Jan 14, 2013
Author: Obama
Post Date: 2013-01-14 12:34:42 by Jethro Tull
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President Obama said he'd take "executive action" to deal with guns at his press conference today: "My understanding is the vice president's going to provide a range of steps that we can take to reduce gun violence," said Obama. "Some of them will require legislation, some of them I can accomplish through executive action. And so I will be reviewing those today, and as I said, I will speak in more detail to what we're going to go ahead and propose later in the week. But I'm confident that there are some steps that we can take that don't require legislation and that are within my authority as president, and where you get a step that, has the opportunity to reduce the possibility of gun violence, then i want to go ahead and take it." Poster Comment: There wsa never a 'gun debate.' There was never a "health care debate.' It's about a rogue president and how much shit the American people will stand for. Obama: Some Gun Control Measures 'I Can Accomplish Through Executive Action'
"I'm confident that there are some steps that we can take that don't require legislation and that are within my authority as president."
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#1. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. (No debate). We should all be livid. Stop acting like docile, mentally castrated pussies and grow a pair. It's time to get in their face. Why should we speak in hushed tones and act all polite when we are being metaphorically raped every day?
He's delusional like everyone seems to be once they relocate to D.C.
We should all be livid. Stop acting like docile, mentally castrated pussies and grow a pair. It's time to get in their face. Why should we speak in hushed tones and act all polite when we are being metaphorically raped every day?
Good. Issue all the decrees you like. I and millions of others will openly defy you, and we eagerly await your attempt to quell a rebellion. Which is exactly what is coming in this country. The liberal media has been painting this man as being the reincarnation of Abraham Lincoln. The difference is that this time, there will not be a north and south fight. It will be those trying to keep what is rightfully theirs against those who suckle at the cock of big government. It is time to push back, and push these people into the sea, where we can watch them drown. "Call Me Ishmael" -Ishmael, A character from the book "Moby Dick" 1851. "Call Me Fishmeal" -Osama Bin Laden, A character created by the CIA, and the world's Hide And Seek Champion 2001-2011. -Tommythemadartist
ping this is the same man that said its completly under his authority to use drones to bomb and kill american citizens if he decides they are terrorists and he has killed american citizens without indictments warrants or trials and he also says they can be in the usa when he kills them that is not a man that i will ever give up guns to hell i wouldnt give him my dull butterknive out of the dishdrainer for that matter free and legal online poker site click here
Obamacare vs. Obama: forbes.com: Gun Advocates Celebrate 'Secret' Obamacare Provision Forbidding Exec Order To Regulate Guns And Ammo That’s right—it turns out that there is, indeed, a provision buried deep in the thousands of pages that is the Affordable Care Act entitled, “Protection of Second Amendment Rights”. You’ll find it in Section 2716 part c of the Affordable Care Act although, to save you the trouble, I have re-printed the provision below for your perusal. You might be surprised to learn that the language was offered in a Senate amendment proposed by none other than Senate Majority Leader, Harry Reid. While this news may come as a shock to those who view Reid as a leader of the left, politics will always trump ideology and—in the State of Nevada—politics dictates that running for office as a gun supporter is a way better idea than seeking office as a gun regulator. So, it should shock nobody that Senator Reid is a long-time gun rights advocate who has consistently counted upon the support of the NRA when running for election in his home state. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Very good. Read that whole article all the way through, especially page 3, and you will see that the language in that Obamacare bs is not really anything to celebrate. ....The provision in question bars the HHS Secretary, anyone in the Secretary’s ‘chain of command’, and health professionals covered by this section of the ACA, from engaging in the collection of gun data through the ordinary course of the services they provide. By way of example, were someone to come into the emergency room for treatment of a nasty gunpowder burn, the attending physician would likely ask how the injury took place. When the injured answers by noting that something went wrong when firing his Bushmaster at the target range, this law prevents the physician, hospital or anyone else from feeding the information to a government data base and further prevents the HHS Department from collecting such data. The law additionally prohibits the government from making the argument that, since guns can be deleterious to the health and wellness of people, it would be within the goals and objectives of the ACA to collect data on who has weapons in the effort to protect the health and wellness of of Americans. In other words, HHS cannot create a data base to collect info on guns under the theory that guns injure people’s health so they need to know where the guns are. So, the good news for the gun folks is that the ACA is, indeed, prevented from being used as a weapon in the ‘War on Guns’ under the guise that guns are bad for people’s health. They can also take solace in the fact that the law prevents government from collecting any gun data resulting from information obtained in the course of medical providers doing their thing—much as HIPAA prevents such information from being used for a variety of purposes. Beyond that, if you imagine that this obscure section of the Affordable Care Act is going to block the Administration from exercising whatever legal authority it may have to regulate guns in America, I’m afraid you will be quite disappointed. I think all would agree that should the President resolve to use his executive powers to create a data base or any other regulatory provision, it is far more likely that such regulation would fall within the ambit of the Justice Department—not Health & Human Services—and nothing in the ACA prevents such data collection, or any other regulatory efforts, which would fall outside the limited jurisdiction created in Obamacare with respect to firearms. So, to our friends at Breitbart and the others who believe they have discovered gold in their effort to prevent the administration from acting on its desire to bring sanity to our gun laws, I’m afraid you are going to have to reload as Obamacare is just not the magic bullet you are looking for. (added emphasis mine) Never get it into your head that Harry Reid is going to do anything that would actually help gun owners or anyone who is an actual American. Thank you for informing us more on that, James.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
You're welcome. I knew that Harry Reid was no friend of the Constitution or setting any kind of limits on government power, especially fedgov. He's a traitor. In that respect he is like the vast majority of people in any high level of government.
How much does this creep we call the Commander in Chief think he can get aweay with without starting a new revolution? Just asking. ;) "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
Looks as if the good Senator is a closet gun rights advocate. :) "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
No, Harry's a died in the wool, card carrying, true believer, pos.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken Sorry, Barry, but you're deluding yourself. Go ahead and issue you order and you'll find it ignored. It might just be the start of your downfall when you become a laughingstock.
"Have Brain, Will Travel
BTP Holdings: Looks as if the good Senator is a closet gun rights advocate. :) I hadn't read the entire article when I posted that from it. Sorry for any misimpressions because of my hastiness there. Apparently (Ref. Page 2 of 3), Reid did move to include the limitation but his motivation was probably to make it so Obamacare was not contested heavily by the NRA and gunowners on 2nd Amendment grounds -- so that it would pass more easily, rather than being a gun rights advocate himself or mindful of the Constitution. My concern now is that India (for example) was set up quite some years ago as a Medical Records Transcription importer-exporter and might be used as a backdoor way to obtain info otherwise blocked here by America's privacy laws. Not sure but am doubtful that India is as privacy-restrained by HIPPA, ACA, or any other American law as is the Medical Complex in America. Edited for formatting. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Looks as if they have slipped one over on them this time around. Let's hope we can keep them at bay. I was watching Obummer on cable and they were repeating the same tired anti- gun canards that we heard when I lived in Illinois, "If only it saves one life." "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
independent.co.uk: Immigration reform, not gun control, is [Harry Reid's] top priority in the new legislative session that has just started, he has said. It goes on to say there: According to the Congressional glossary C-Span, an executive order is “a presidential directive with the force of law” that does not need congressional approval because it is made in the President’s capacity as commander-in-chief. Apparently, C-Span doesn't even seem to realize that Presidents are Commander- in-Chief of the Military, not the entire country. They also seem to be working to deceive Americans into believing that Presidential Dictatorship by Executive Order Fiat is law but it isn't -- either that or they've been misinformed. Afaik, none of the "gun-control"/Commie Control EOs Obama signed are even associated with any Congressional law except to overstep Reid's Obamacare restrictions. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
There was never a 'gun debate.'
#2. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
#3. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
#4. To: Jethro Tull, *libertarians*, *Shooters*, *Jack-Booted Thugs* (#0)
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#5. To: Jethro Tull, All (#0)
there is already a law on the books that would prevent the government from making good on Biden’s tantalizing suggestion, a law that would actually prevent the government from collecting data on firearm ownership and more.
#6. To: freepatriot32 (#4)
i wouldnt give him my dull butterknive out of the dishdrainer for that matter
"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust
#7. To: GreyLmist (#5)
(Edited)
"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust
#8. To: James Deffenbach (#7)
#9. To: GreyLmist (#8)
"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust
#10. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
(Edited)
It's about a rogue president and how much shit the American people will stand for.
#11. To: GreyLmist (#5)
So, it should shock nobody that Senator Reid is a long-time gun rights advocate who has consistently counted upon the support of the NRA when running for election in his home state.
#12. To: BTP Holdings, 4 (#11)
#13. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
#14. To: BTP Holdings, James Deffenbach, Lod, All (#11)
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Excerpted from the 3-page forbes.com article, which I linked above for Page #1 at Post #5:
So, it should shock nobody that Senator Reid is a long-time gun rights advocate who has consistently counted upon the support of the NRA when running for election in his home state.
#15. To: GreyLmist (#14)
#16. To: BTP Holdings (#15)
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