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Title: Adam Lanza Never Took the AR-15 into the school
Source: Natural News
URL Source: http://tv.naturalnews.com/v.asp?v=2E10716E6FD870ADECD5461A6778F3AB
Published: Jan 14, 2013
Author: Mike Adams
Post Date: 2013-01-14 15:18:33 by James Deffenbach
Keywords: None
Views: 600
Comments: 41

Busting the mythology surrounding the Sandy Hook shooting, this video reveals that the AR-15 rifle was actually left in the car! it wasn't used in the school shooting at all.

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#10. To: James Deffenbach (#0)

According to this, the AR-15 and two handguns were brought into the school. The weapon left in the car was a shotgun:

www.salon.com/2013/01/18/..._to_every_sandy_hook_cons piracy_theory/

Shoonra  posted on  2013-01-18   20:34:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Shoonra, scrapper2, GreyLmist (#10)

www.salon.com/2013/01/18/..._to_every_sandy_hook_cons piracy_theory/

Fantastic.

wudidiz  posted on  2013-01-18   21:18:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: wudidiz, Shoonra (#13) (Edited)

Shoonra: www.salon.com/2013/01/18/..._to_every_sandy_hook_cons piracy_theory/

wudidiz: Fantastic.

I for one have seen more than enough of that Alex Seitz-Wald guy and his "conspiracy theory" Salon-wares. Back in the day when the Education system and its facilitators weren't so dumbed down in this country, phrases like "critical thinking" and "duly diligent" would have been the adult-level standard of description and his "conspiracy theory" gibberish considered inane, as it is.

His "answer" to the first question there, "Why aren’t the adults sadder?": "People mourn in many different ways"

But the issue is that they're essentially all acting much the same way -- scripted and fake. Example: the alleged mother of Noah Pozner. Surely, Jewish mother characters in movies have been more distraught than her if a child merely doesn't want to go to Medical or Law School.

The next question, "What about Emilie?", I already commented about here.

His answer to the questions of Crisis Actors and their apparent similarities: "Not all women with brown hair are the same person."

Is that a joke? That sure doesn't mean all depictions of them must be different women with brown hair.

"But what about the rifle?" Answer (paraphrasing): Believe what you're told now and forget about questions like re-load time, overheating; why all the gunfire-stories of popping sounds and booming noises but not shattering glass, especially if the alleged gunman shot his way into the school as reported.

Answer to the question of "How come the memorial pages were created before the shooting?": "Actually, this is a very common glitch for constricted-date Google searches. The results are imprecise and can often display incorrect dates on the search page, even when the date on the actual page is correct when you click through to it. For instance, here’s a Fox News story on the Sandy Hook shooting that Google says is from Oct. 1, 1983 — how come Fox News didn’t stop the shooting if it had 30 years advance notice???"

Translation: Move along. Nothing to see here of possibly deliberate time- stamp tampering to obfuscate investigations.

If a timestamp is alleged to be inaccurate, I think it's the job of those associated with it say so and why -- not our job to presume that the burden of proof is on us rather than them, nor to presume timestamps are simply unreliable as any evidence.

His "debunked" answer about the question of Chris Rodia's car amounts to his 2nd paragraph proclamation (more or less) that there are no valid Jewish questions about the Sandy Hook issues. In other words, don't ask anything like what he was doing in Greenwich on that day and at that time, regardless of whether the car he was driving was his own or his mother's. Don't ask either if the Jewish couple arrested in Greenwich recently happen to know him.

"What about the man in the woods?" Answer: "It was Chris Manfredonia, the father of a 6-year-old who attends the school." [aka The Gingerbread Man, seriously.] "He was on his way to the school to make gingerbread houses with first-graders when he heard gunfire and smelled sulfur, so he ran."

Rather than run into the school to protect his son and try to help, he decided to act out the storybook instead: Catch me. Catch me if you can. You can't catch me. I'm the Gingerbread Man.

I don't believe it.

"But there was another man in the woods (maybe)." Answer: "Actually, he was, according to the Newtown Bee, 'an off-duty tactical squad police officer from another town' who heard the gunfire."

An out-of-town SWAT officer coincidentally just travelling through at the time anonymously? And he too ran towards the woods instead of the school (like the Gingerbread Man, Manfredonia) when he heard gunfire? I don't believe it.

"What about the third man at the firehouse? Children fleeing the school said they saw a man pinned down on the ground in handcuffs outside the firehouse. Could this be a second or third shooter?"

Answer: "No, like Manfredonia, this man was briefly detained by police in the hectic aftermath, but quickly released when it was determined he was just a passerby, Connecticut State Police spokesperson Lt. Paul Vance, who was on the scene, confirmed to Salon. 'Were there other people detained? The answer is yes. In the height of battle, until you’ve determined who, what, when, where and why of everyone in existence … that’s not unusual,' Vance said."

Where was he going? Three men in the area -- or a Gingerbread Man, a Robocop and What's-his-name? -- and none of them were running towards the school to help? No alarms were ringing from there at all? I think that's very unusual.

"why did some eyewitnesses report multiple shooters?" Answer: "In the stress and confusion of a situation like a mass shooting, misreporting is not just common, but the rule. [sic] theorists would have you believe that a small handful of media interviews with people on the scene trumps all the other interviews with people there and police and media reports"

Someone at IntelHub asked why no cafeteria workers were interviewed. Did all of the students bring their own lunch? One alleged parent interviewed mentioned stopping regularly with his son at a deli before school. Is it a deli that's open 24 hrs.? If not, how early does it open before 9:00 a.m.?

"What about that Gene Rosen guy?" Answer: "Rosen did invite the bus driver inside and she helped him contact their parents. An early AP report erroneously reported that he sat with the kids for hours, but he told us that the children were only inside his house for about 35 minutes. He did call their parents. Four parents came right away and Rosen took the remaining two to the fire station. Rosen is not a member of SAG (that’s a different Gene Rosen, who is seven years younger)."

What are the names of the bus driver and the children?

"But how was the dead principal quoted?" Answer: "The [Newtown] Bee quickly posted a retraction and an apology"

Which staff members were absent that day?

"What about the LIBOR connection?" Answer: "There are no LIBOR hearings"

Why not? No corruption involved?

You vill believe the official story now, yes?

No. I want to know how a school nurse had an office with 20 feet of floor space to the door, as she described in her interview. Why, according to her story, did she stay in a terrorized building for almost 4 hours -- long after the shooting had stopped and the police reportedly had it in lockdown, swept through it at least 4 times, and evacuated the other survivors hours before that? Why didn't the police go get some of the children's coats for them if they didn't have one on when they were evacuated, as we've seen? Most likely they'd have worn one to school because it was below freezing and near freezing at that timeframe (8.am. through the hour of 10:00 a.m.).

Various edits for readability.

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-01-19   14:58:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: GreyLmist (#14)

Rather than run into the school to protect his son and try to help, he decided to act out the storybook instead: Catch me. Catch me if you can. You can't catch me. I'm the Gingerbread Man.

That Gingerbread Man is like Shaft, he's a bad mutha...shut yo' mouth! ahaha.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-01-19   18:34:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#20. To: James Deffenbach (#15)

Seems more than odd to me that the Gingerbread Man, Manfredonia, was evidently fleeing from the police -- away from the school and through the woods -- if he was simply supposed to be on his way there for a classroom activity. Odd too that he's the only parent said to have been going to the school for a gingerbread activity there, afaik.

However, soon before the alleged Sandy Hook shooting, the Gingerbread Man was part of the lesson plans at a Virginia elementary school:

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Deer Park Elementary Students to Get Gingerbread Lesson

By: James Limbach
December 5, 2012

The Gingerbread Man will help students in grades K-2 at Deer Park Elementary School learn about school geography next Wednesday, December 12, at 9 a.m. That’s when local author Laura Murray will be on hand to share her book, The Gingerbread Man Loose in the School.

Students will participate in a fun and interactive presentation by Murray in the school’s library, where they will find out how a determined and resourceful gingerbread man, inadvertently left behind at recess by the students who made him, finds his way back to his creators.

He traverses the school and meets many helpful staff members along the way. Murray’s rendition is a role reversal of the classic gingerbread man story.

Finding the Gingerbread Man

Deer Park kindergarten students spend an entire unit — which began after Thanksgiving break — using gingerbread-themed activities to learn math, reading, writing and problem solving. A giant gingerbread house is erected outside the classrooms and is used by the students as a special quiet place to read. One of the more popular activities is the hunt for the runaway gingerbread man.

Each classroom decorates a giant cookie, which secretly disappears. Students make “missing” signs and hypothesize as to the cookie’s whereabouts. The cookie is eventually found, sometimes in the principal’s office or another classroom.

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Reminds me somewhat of a Jewish holiday game of hiding a piece of bread for the children to find. Alternate source about the storybook:

irondequoitlibrary.org: Miss Amy Reads…The Gingerbread Man Loose in the School - Irondequoit (Iron Decoy?) Public Library

the children leave the classroom to attend other daily activities. The gingerbread man doesn’t understand that they’ll be coming back, so he marches forth into the school to find them – in other words, HE’S trying to catch THEM!

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