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Title: Adam Lanza Never Took the AR-15 into the school
Source: Natural News
URL Source: http://tv.naturalnews.com/v.asp?v=2E10716E6FD870ADECD5461A6778F3AB
Published: Jan 14, 2013
Author: Mike Adams
Post Date: 2013-01-14 15:18:33 by James Deffenbach
Keywords: None
Views: 588
Comments: 41

Busting the mythology surrounding the Sandy Hook shooting, this video reveals that the AR-15 rifle was actually left in the car! it wasn't used in the school shooting at all.

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#1. To: All (#0)

Available on youtube too (at least at the moment) and you can download it there with any of several programs. I use ClipGrab which is very simple and works great but there are others. Here is the link.

Sandy Hook shooting - AR-15 rifle was left in the car


"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-01-14   15:25:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: James Deffenbach (#0) (Edited)

Busting the mythology surrounding the Sandy Hook shooting, this video reveals that the AR-15 rifle was actually left in the car! it wasn't used in the school shooting at all.

More obfuscation surrounding this sad incident.

It does not phase me in the least that the media is complicit in all of this. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2013-01-14   18:12:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: BTP Holdings (#2)

No, that is why I suggested that everyone download that video because it will probably be sent down the memory hole soon.


"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-01-14   18:40:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: James Deffenbach (#3)

I've seen that video and several others that make the same or similar claims. The one that baffles me shows the cops retrieving the rifle from the trunk "AT NIGHT when the shooting happened in the early morning." WTF ?

We should all be livid. Stop acting like docile, mentally castrated pussies and grow a pair. It's time to get in their face. Why should we speak in hushed tones and act all polite when we are being metaphorically raped every day?

noone222  posted on  2013-01-14   19:01:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: noone222 (#4)

I've seen that video and several others that make the same or similar claims. The one that baffles me shows the cops retrieving the rifle from the trunk "AT NIGHT when the shooting happened in the early morning." WTF ?

I think there are enough screwy things about the events at Sandy Hook that all but the brain dead knows by now that "something just ain't right." Whole thing stinks worse than a barrel full of rotten fish in the hot sun.


"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-01-14   19:18:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: James Deffenbach (#0)

I saved the video. Great catch, James.

purplerose  posted on  2013-01-15   13:07:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: purplerose (#6)

Thank you, Rose.


"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-01-15   13:23:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: James Deffenbach (#3)

No, that is why I suggested that everyone download that video because it will probably be sent down the memory hole soon.

It's still up when I just checked before posting this. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2013-01-15   16:19:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: BTP Holdings (#8)

I could be wrong (it's not like it's something that has never happened before even though I am loathe to admit it). They may leave it up but if someone brings it to the attention of whoever runs youtube I doubt the shelf life will be exceedingly long.


"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-01-15   22:48:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: James Deffenbach (#0)

According to this, the AR-15 and two handguns were brought into the school. The weapon left in the car was a shotgun:

www.salon.com/2013/01/18/..._to_every_sandy_hook_cons piracy_theory/

Shoonra  posted on  2013-01-18   20:34:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Shoonra (#10)

Helicopter footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9YwnXAtm4k

Multiple Shooters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7pT0nKxgqY

Medical Examiner: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV3KYBS64R8

Gene Rosen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alp64daGTSohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFyexz_IuHE

Facebook Page DEC 10: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyJ0Nl5lpOg

Robbie Parker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKWgCRBR5qE

Obama Pics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSnhYMaGYuY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHv_RhVgfUQ

FEMA drills: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlWi97yBRAc

Sites up before shooting : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSUAXBChnbE

Nurse Sally Cox - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIz-Nx_RV0g "

Itistoolate  posted on  2013-01-18   20:59:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Shoonra (#10)

Ah, what to believe, what to believe, credible sources or salon.com? Hmm, have to think about it and give it all the consideration it deserves. Ok, done. Salon (to me) is not a credible source. Just like Obama's phony birth certificate.


"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-01-18   21:16:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Shoonra, scrapper2, GreyLmist (#10)

www.salon.com/2013/01/18/..._to_every_sandy_hook_cons piracy_theory/

Fantastic.


"Freethinkers are those who are willing to use their minds without prejudice and without fearing to understand things that clash with their own customs, privileges, or beliefs. This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking; where it is absent, discussion is apt to become worse than useless." ~ Leo Tolstoy

wudidiz  posted on  2013-01-18   21:18:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: wudidiz, Shoonra (#13) (Edited)

Shoonra: www.salon.com/2013/01/18/..._to_every_sandy_hook_cons piracy_theory/

wudidiz: Fantastic.

I for one have seen more than enough of that Alex Seitz-Wald guy and his "conspiracy theory" Salon-wares. Back in the day when the Education system and its facilitators weren't so dumbed down in this country, phrases like "critical thinking" and "duly diligent" would have been the adult-level standard of description and his "conspiracy theory" gibberish considered inane, as it is.

His "answer" to the first question there, "Why aren’t the adults sadder?": "People mourn in many different ways"

But the issue is that they're essentially all acting much the same way -- scripted and fake. Example: the alleged mother of Noah Pozner. Surely, Jewish mother characters in movies have been more distraught than her if a child merely doesn't want to go to Medical or Law School.

The next question, "What about Emilie?", I already commented about here.

His answer to the questions of Crisis Actors and their apparent similarities: "Not all women with brown hair are the same person."

Is that a joke? That sure doesn't mean all depictions of them must be different women with brown hair.

"But what about the rifle?" Answer (paraphrasing): Believe what you're told now and forget about questions like re-load time, overheating; why all the gunfire-stories of popping sounds and booming noises but not shattering glass, especially if the alleged gunman shot his way into the school as reported.

Answer to the question of "How come the memorial pages were created before the shooting?": "Actually, this is a very common glitch for constricted-date Google searches. The results are imprecise and can often display incorrect dates on the search page, even when the date on the actual page is correct when you click through to it. For instance, here’s a Fox News story on the Sandy Hook shooting that Google says is from Oct. 1, 1983 — how come Fox News didn’t stop the shooting if it had 30 years advance notice???"

Translation: Move along. Nothing to see here of possibly deliberate time- stamp tampering to obfuscate investigations.

If a timestamp is alleged to be inaccurate, I think it's the job of those associated with it say so and why -- not our job to presume that the burden of proof is on us rather than them, nor to presume timestamps are simply unreliable as any evidence.

His "debunked" answer about the question of Chris Rodia's car amounts to his 2nd paragraph proclamation (more or less) that there are no valid Jewish questions about the Sandy Hook issues. In other words, don't ask anything like what he was doing in Greenwich on that day and at that time, regardless of whether the car he was driving was his own or his mother's. Don't ask either if the Jewish couple arrested in Greenwich recently happen to know him.

"What about the man in the woods?" Answer: "It was Chris Manfredonia, the father of a 6-year-old who attends the school." [aka The Gingerbread Man, seriously.] "He was on his way to the school to make gingerbread houses with first-graders when he heard gunfire and smelled sulfur, so he ran."

Rather than run into the school to protect his son and try to help, he decided to act out the storybook instead: Catch me. Catch me if you can. You can't catch me. I'm the Gingerbread Man.

I don't believe it.

"But there was another man in the woods (maybe)." Answer: "Actually, he was, according to the Newtown Bee, 'an off-duty tactical squad police officer from another town' who heard the gunfire."

An out-of-town SWAT officer coincidentally just travelling through at the time anonymously? And he too ran towards the woods instead of the school (like the Gingerbread Man, Manfredonia) when he heard gunfire? I don't believe it.

"What about the third man at the firehouse? Children fleeing the school said they saw a man pinned down on the ground in handcuffs outside the firehouse. Could this be a second or third shooter?"

Answer: "No, like Manfredonia, this man was briefly detained by police in the hectic aftermath, but quickly released when it was determined he was just a passerby, Connecticut State Police spokesperson Lt. Paul Vance, who was on the scene, confirmed to Salon. 'Were there other people detained? The answer is yes. In the height of battle, until you’ve determined who, what, when, where and why of everyone in existence … that’s not unusual,' Vance said."

Where was he going? Three men in the area -- or a Gingerbread Man, a Robocop and What's-his-name? -- and none of them were running towards the school to help? No alarms were ringing from there at all? I think that's very unusual.

"why did some eyewitnesses report multiple shooters?" Answer: "In the stress and confusion of a situation like a mass shooting, misreporting is not just common, but the rule. [sic] theorists would have you believe that a small handful of media interviews with people on the scene trumps all the other interviews with people there and police and media reports"

Someone at IntelHub asked why no cafeteria workers were interviewed. Did all of the students bring their own lunch? One alleged parent interviewed mentioned stopping regularly with his son at a deli before school. Is it a deli that's open 24 hrs.? If not, how early does it open before 9:00 a.m.?

"What about that Gene Rosen guy?" Answer: "Rosen did invite the bus driver inside and she helped him contact their parents. An early AP report erroneously reported that he sat with the kids for hours, but he told us that the children were only inside his house for about 35 minutes. He did call their parents. Four parents came right away and Rosen took the remaining two to the fire station. Rosen is not a member of SAG (that’s a different Gene Rosen, who is seven years younger)."

What are the names of the bus driver and the children?

"But how was the dead principal quoted?" Answer: "The [Newtown] Bee quickly posted a retraction and an apology"

Which staff members were absent that day?

"What about the LIBOR connection?" Answer: "There are no LIBOR hearings"

Why not? No corruption involved?

You vill believe the official story now, yes?

No. I want to know how a school nurse had an office with 20 feet of floor space to the door, as she described in her interview. Why, according to her story, did she stay in a terrorized building for almost 4 hours -- long after the shooting had stopped and the police reportedly had it in lockdown, swept through it at least 4 times, and evacuated the other survivors hours before that? Why didn't the police go get some of the children's coats for them if they didn't have one on when they were evacuated, as we've seen? Most likely they'd have worn one to school because it was below freezing and near freezing at that timeframe (8.am. through the hour of 10:00 a.m.).

Various edits for readability.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-01-19   14:58:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: GreyLmist (#14)

Rather than run into the school to protect his son and try to help, he decided to act out the storybook instead: Catch me. Catch me if you can. You can't catch me. I'm the Gingerbread Man.

That Gingerbread Man is like Shaft, he's a bad mutha...shut yo' mouth! ahaha.


"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-01-19   18:34:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: GreyLmist (#14)

I find that site insulting. It's got appeal to those who need someone else to do their thinking for them or when the truth simply doesn't suit their fancy. Or anyone who for whatever reason supposes that just by having someone say something makes it so. On the bright side, anyone who can see through that bs can use it as an indicator of what isn't true.

Thing is, it's not as though there are a few anomalies. They're numerous if not countless. There are also red herrings. The site seizes on them as it says the "truthers" have seized on them. Real truthers see through that nonsense too.

A person capable of and wanting to use critical thinking skills will quickly decide that it's best to check the evidence themselves rather than trust someone else's conclusion. Especially a conclusion that fits so neatly with the offishull story.

Good grief I sometimes feel as though there's no hope for humanity considering the ease that the elite have the masses fooled.

Turn off your tv.

Throw the freakin thing out.

For the Love of God.


"Freethinkers are those who are willing to use their minds without prejudice and without fearing to understand things that clash with their own customs, privileges, or beliefs. This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking; where it is absent, discussion is apt to become worse than useless." ~ Leo Tolstoy

wudidiz  posted on  2013-01-19   18:52:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: wudidiz (#13)

Also worth reading:

www.snopes.com/politics/gun s/newtown.asp

(it includes a link to a CNN article about the Ar-15 gun)

Shoonra  posted on  2013-01-19   21:47:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: wudidiz, All (#14)

Which staff members were absent that day?

Sandy Hook Elementary shooting What happened - CNN.com

Inside the school

In one classroom was Lauren Rousseau, a substitute teacher who was filling in for a teacher out on maternity leave. The gunman shot all 14 students in the classroom, law enforcement officers said.

Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting - Wikipedia

In a first-grade classroom, Lauren Rousseau, a substitute teacher, was shot in the face and killed. Fifteen of the sixteen students in her class were killed; a six-year-old girl was the sole survivor. The girl's family pastor said that she survived the mass shooting by playing dead and remaining still until the building grew quiet, and she felt it was safe to leave. She ran from the school, covered in blood, and was the first child to escape the building.

Post #19 at 4um Title: Cabal Having Difficulty Telling a Consistent Sandy Hook Story posted by wudidiz

8) Joanne Didonato, the principal's secretary, called in sick on Friday--something she rarely does. So presumably, she must have been awfully ill. Yet she then felt well enough to give an interview. "Of all days," she said, emphasizing the strange coincidence. [Jim Fetzer list]

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-01-21   6:48:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: wudidiz (#16)

Good post.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-01-21   11:09:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: James Deffenbach (#15)

Seems more than odd to me that the Gingerbread Man, Manfredonia, was evidently fleeing from the police -- away from the school and through the woods -- if he was simply supposed to be on his way there for a classroom activity. Odd too that he's the only parent said to have been going to the school for a gingerbread activity there, afaik.

However, soon before the alleged Sandy Hook shooting, the Gingerbread Man was part of the lesson plans at a Virginia elementary school:

Pic link

Deer Park Elementary Students to Get Gingerbread Lesson

By: James Limbach
December 5, 2012

The Gingerbread Man will help students in grades K-2 at Deer Park Elementary School learn about school geography next Wednesday, December 12, at 9 a.m. That’s when local author Laura Murray will be on hand to share her book, The Gingerbread Man Loose in the School.

Students will participate in a fun and interactive presentation by Murray in the school’s library, where they will find out how a determined and resourceful gingerbread man, inadvertently left behind at recess by the students who made him, finds his way back to his creators.

He traverses the school and meets many helpful staff members along the way. Murray’s rendition is a role reversal of the classic gingerbread man story.

Finding the Gingerbread Man

Deer Park kindergarten students spend an entire unit — which began after Thanksgiving break — using gingerbread-themed activities to learn math, reading, writing and problem solving. A giant gingerbread house is erected outside the classrooms and is used by the students as a special quiet place to read. One of the more popular activities is the hunt for the runaway gingerbread man.

Each classroom decorates a giant cookie, which secretly disappears. Students make “missing” signs and hypothesize as to the cookie’s whereabouts. The cookie is eventually found, sometimes in the principal’s office or another classroom.

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Reminds me somewhat of a Jewish holiday game of hiding a piece of bread for the children to find. Alternate source about the storybook:

irondequoitlibrary.org: Miss Amy Reads…The Gingerbread Man Loose in the School - Irondequoit (Iron Decoy?) Public Library

the children leave the classroom to attend other daily activities. The gingerbread man doesn’t understand that they’ll be coming back, so he marches forth into the school to find them – in other words, HE’S trying to catch THEM!

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-01-25   6:43:34 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: James Deffenbach (#0)

On the other hand, the police chief insists that all the victims were shot with an assault rifle:

www.greenwichtime.com/new...te-Police-All-26-Newtown- victims-shot-with-4220548.php#ixzz2IvrbOHhC

Shoonra  posted on  2013-01-25   7:47:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Shoonra (#21)

On the other hand, the police chief insists that all the victims were shot with an assault rifle:

www.greenwichtime.com/new...te-Police-All-26-Newtown- victims-shot-with-4220548.php#ixzz2IvrbOHhC

So? How do you know who to believe when the coroner or medical examiner says one thing and someone else says another thing? And how could anyone have been killed with a rifle that stayed in the trunk of the car? Does that make sense to you?


"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-01-25   11:14:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: GreyLmist (#20)

Never heard that story. Thanks.


"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-01-25   11:16:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: All, *Black Ops - Psyops* (#20)

Seems more than odd to me that the Gingerbread Man, Manfredonia, was evidently fleeing from the police -- away from the school and through the woods -- if he was simply supposed to be on his way there for a classroom activity. Odd too that he's the only parent said to have been going to the school for a gingerbread activity there, afaik.

Another alleged Gingerbread dad named Pete called in to Glen Beck's show:

Sandy Hook GingerBread House Dad calls in to Glen Beck - YouTube

Published on Jan 20, 2013 by TheSONSOFLIBERTYMC

Some comments at the site:

"According to an article in the LA times. Chris Manfredonia was a P.E. teacher who went to the school to help his (daughter) build ginger bread houses. This is apparently someone else [Pete Barresi] a volunteer fireman and he says he was apparently not allowed in the building and didn't personally see anything."

"This guy also does not mention getting arrested either. He is a plant to confirm Chris's alibi for being at the school at 9:30 imho"

"ok.. i see what your saying. i guess sandy hook fathers like to show up 5 hours early to events. or the media could be completely wrong regarding the time classes were making the gingerbread. our media is just awful"

"Also remember that Beck lived in New Cannan until 2011, IF that means anything at all."

"I think that is like 35 miles away but that might show a bias he has."

"Beck doesn't even ASK what class the kid [Pete's son] is in. Like, was he in a class where some of the kids were killed - - Soto's class? Was he in the class where "Lanza" walked by the door? No curiosity about that, Glen? The thing about the Grandfather is not answering the question, it is subterfuge. He was out on errands? How many errands did he get done by that time. What a bunch of BS"

More site comments at B.S. Alert On Glen Beck Caller, PETE. - YouTube:

"gingerbread house making weren't scheduled to commence until afternoon, the end of the 'teaching' day."

"why would gingerbread house helping parents be showing up 3+ hours early?"

"This kinda sounds like the witness [Roy Low] that saw the camo pants guy being put in the police car."

"Just another Tool 'Pete'- Peter R. Barresi"

"About 1900 in America, a gingerbread man was generically known as John Dough."

Sandy Hook Questions..With shattered doors Chris Maferdonia could not find a way in - YouTube

Published on Jan 13, 2013 by lduvelle

Description excerpt and comments at the site:

"The video shows that Mr. Maferdonia arrived at the school to make gingerbread houses with his child. The Sandy Hook Ginger Bread Houses were to be made at 2:30. Mr. Maferdonia was there in the morning during the shooting. HIS OWN WORDS "I HEARD POPPING NOISES". He ran around the school to gain access to the building. ONE QUESTION. WHY DID MR. MAFERDONIA NOT WALK THROUGH THE BROKEN SHATTERED GLASS DOORS BLOWN OUT BY MR. LANZA? seems like easy access to the school."

"Yikes, 2:30pm is a Long way from 9:30am"

"Now I hear that the guy running from the cops was an off duty swat team officer. First they say it was a father of a student, then it was a hunter, then it was two men chopping wood!"

"And if it was him, why did he RUN from the cops into the woods?"

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-01-31   17:41:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Itistoolate (#11)

Helicopter footage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9YwnXAtm4k

Multiple Shooters: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7pT0nKxgqY

Medical Examiner: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV3KYBS64R8

Gene Rosen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a...e.com/watch?v=ZFyexz_IuHE

Facebook Page DEC 10: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyJ0Nl5lpOg

Robbie Parker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKWgCRBR5qE

Obama Pics: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSnhYMaGYuY

http ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHv_RhVgfUQ

FEMA drills: www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlWi97yBRAc

Sites up before shooting : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSUAXBChnbE

Nurse Sally Cox - www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIz-Nx_RV0g "

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-01-31   18:15:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: All (#18)

Which staff members were absent that day?

In one classroom was Lauren Rousseau, a substitute teacher who was filling in for a teacher out on maternity leave. The gunman shot all 14 students in the classroom, law enforcement officers said.

Lauren Rousseau, a substitute teacher, was shot in the face and killed. Fifteen of the sixteen students in her class were killed; a six-year-old girl was the sole survivor.

Joanne Didonato, the principal's secretary, called in sick on Friday--something she rarely does. So presumably, she must have been awfully ill. Yet she then felt well enough to give an interview. "Of all days," she said, emphasizing the strange coincidence.

Looks Like there are More Suspects ?

Comment at the site:

Sandy Hook elementary school custodian ,Kevin Anzellotti wrote on his Facebook page that he was off that day. Who was the custodian that day? newtownsandyhookschooldes net/Staff/StaffDirectory/tabid­ /17319/Default.aspx

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-02-07   23:28:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: All (#26)

Sandy Hook elementary school custodian ,Kevin Anzellotti wrote on his Facebook page that he was off that day. Who was the custodian that day? newtownsandyhookschooldes net/Staff/StaffDirectory/tabid­ /17319/Default.aspx

More YouTube Comments on Anzellotti:

"I thought the teacher's aide said custodian's name was "Neil" (cud be rong). Now they're saying it's Rick Thorne but, as per the (unrelated) Bloomberg article dated 11/29/12, Rick Thorne was Unemployed janitor in Massachusetts living off his pension because he'd been displaced by Aramark services. So he just happens to get this Sandy Hook job 2 WEEKS later & a presidential heroism award? (for yelling & being handcuffed as a suspect n the parking lot (according to 1 witness)? Just sayin' / Odd."

"You are kinda right. Not many have picked up on this. Kevin Anzellotti(the other custodian) and Rick Thorne were both working that day (According to in school, at that time, eyewitnesses)Shari Thornburg(seeing Anzellotti),SHARI BURTON(seeing rick thorne) and with Theodore Varga 'hearing a custodian say'. Big questions here."

"Anzelotti's FaceBook said he was on VACATION! A friend of his posted she was so glad he was on vacation & safely away from the trouble that day... he never replied to her post, so I assumed it was correct. Then I heard he wasn't even working at the elementary school anymore he was the high school janitor this year. Did they transfer him so they could put Rick there to play this role & supplement his pension income?"

"good questions. I have the answers. Then you could say Shari Thornburg (seeing Anzellotti) is a liar. She needs to testify. Did she or didn't she. According to newtown.sandyhook.schooldesk net/Staff/ -staff directory Kevin is head custodian. Could ask teacher, Abbey Clements 'When I poked my head out the door and saw the custodian [janitor] running to the front of the building I realized they were shots,'"

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-02-28   15:03:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: All (#17) (Edited)

Also worth reading:

www.slate.com/blogs/crime...ook_everyone_who_claims_adam_lanza_di dn_t_use_an_ar_15_style.html?wpisrc=obinsite

Shoonra  posted on  2013-03-24   12:29:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: wudidiz (#16)

Turn off your tv. Throw the freakin thing out.

When i was a kid i had a recurring dream. It was the devil, whose head was the tv set & the anteana were his horns. Very interesting in retrospect. It was a silent dream with simply that image.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2013-03-24   13:09:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: GreyLmist (#14)

thats a great analysis, thanks!

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2013-03-24   13:10:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: James Deffenbach, wudidiz, greylmist, jethro tull (#0)

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2013-03-25   4:06:55 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Artisan (#31)

Brilliant!

That would be a great billboard.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-03-25   7:20:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Lod (#32)

Brilliant!

That would be a great billboard.

haha yeah it would! I got that from WRH. i was gonna ping you but thought youe computer couldnt see photos.

I see alot of cheap billboard on interstates. like 3 or 400 per mo, not like the 10 grand someone proposed here once. absurd. 400 would be worth it just to see the reaction that suc a billboard would get. i know nothin about graphics though, so dont know what would be involved in making the billboard.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2013-03-25   22:27:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Artisan (#33)

i know nothin about graphics though, so dont know what would be involved in making the billboard.

Spray paint and gumption. It is scary as hell to throw down some political graffiti but then after 20 seconds it's all done. Kinda like a shot only less painful and more useful. And what you lack in graphical design you make make up for with large letters :)

__ There are only two kinds of americans left in the USA those opposed to the tyranny and those that are wrong. Resist propaganda, Support strict constitutional adherence!

titorite  posted on  2013-03-26   0:27:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Artisan (#31)

It appears that it is more a nut problem than a gun problem.

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.

Paul Craig Roberts

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-03-26   1:45:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Artisan (#33)

The olde XP box died about a month ago so I plugged in an iMac purchased spring 2011.

I see it all now.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-03-26   8:28:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Artisan (#31)

Criminy, that really cuts to the chase.

On a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2013-03-26   10:24:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Esso (#37)

What's your recommendation for an EMF meter?

Joyce Riley just told everyone that we should have one at hand.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-03-26   10:55:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Esso (#37)

I ordered the Trifield 100XE.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-03-26   11:20:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Lod (#38)

What's your recommendation for an EMF meter?

I had to look up what it is. Apparently it's a broad spectrum RF meter. I'm not really sure what the utility would be offhand. Just about any electrical device I can think of generates an electromagnetic field of some kind.

On a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2013-03-26   14:03:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Artisan (#30)

thats a great analysis, thanks!

Thanks for your perusal and generous review, Artisan. :)

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-03-26   23:23:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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